Red pill me on Richard Spencer, is this guy a shill or not? Something about him seems weird but I do agree with what he says mostly.
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Isaac Rogers
hes a rich stupid retard who is humiliating and damaging our movement for the sake of his own legacy
Landon Ramirez
That’s what I was afraid of....
Alexander Ross
Not a shill at all, Jews actually tried to fucking make his mother lose her house
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The poles are right, jews cry in pain as they strike you
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Ethan Martin
Not a shill
Zachary Jackson
Richard Spencer is doing more for the white Identity movement than any of these negative faggots in this thread.
Jose Fisher
if youre feeling really curious here are thousands of posts from funny people who have been mocking him for years and predicting exactly what has happened with him
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Isaiah Watson
>our movement
You are basically the same. Larping retards.
Josiah Gutierrez
NOt a shill ,has some good speeches! Maybe needs some lesson in optics ,but still a good guy
Isaiah Baker
i meme on the internet in hopes of removing your people from my country
there is clearly a movement related to that
whats my larp
Oliver Ward
He doesn't go around saying "gas all Jews", everything he says is reasonable. Spencer is not a shill.
Cooper Baker
Good!!! That’s what I like to hear
Christian Bennett
takes a special faggot to be hated on both sides. my theory is he works for the Bush's as sort of a fringe gate keeper of the right.
Asher Lopez
The best and only accusation worth investigating is that Spencer glows in the dark because he is in charge of organizations/publishers founded by CIA niggers.
Do your own research.
Also, punching Nazis hasn't been OK since 1945. This one dude got the left to openly defend violence. Think about that.
Cooper Morgan
he's a giant faggot
Charles Wright
he's a CIA plant.
Joseph James
given that Sup Forums loves retards like Doctor Peterson, it is not surprising that Sup Forums hates Spencer
the_donald immigrants really are ruining this website
Luke Evans
>Also, punching Nazis hasn't been OK since 1945. This one dude got the left to openly defend violence. Think about that.
Bullshit, leftists had been targetting Trump supporters all through late 2015 and 2016, to blame Spencer for this is insane
Xavier Allen
>Has ties to Bush family.
I think you know what that means OP.
Juan Moore
I think he’s ok. I listen to his podcasts when I run out of new better ones. He can be pretty insightful but also full retard. I think he’s too incompetent to be a glow in the dark cia nigger. It made me lol that he put up a paywall and I’m a paycuck at trs
Landon Hall
There must be a reason he isn't blocked from social media when everyone else with a coherent set of talking points and an ounce of charisma always is.
Isaac Hill
He's a son of Sup Forums
Jeremiah Jackson
Kevin McDonalds and Jared Taylor aren't blocked either
Are they CIA assets too?
WTF I AM A SCHIZO NOW!
Josiah James
Hmm..
Noah Cox
He’s mostly right in his political beliefs but he fancies himself a thespian faggot.
The way he mulls over his words makes me want to shoot my brains out
Justin Harris
I like him. he sounded pretty confident at Texas A&M (only campus thing of his I've watched). his weekly podcast is a solid listen. he should record again with fuetes and allsup soon
Angel Flores
Kevin Macdonald
Just hearing the name is /comfy
Daniel Campbell
is it true that richard spencer has a laughably enormous trust fund
ive been under the impression that he is funding the whole trs operation and paying the daily shoah boys to turn from hilarious comedians into shill political activists
the paywall thing he just did seems weird if thats true though
Justin Collins
He's done way more for this movement than you ever have shlomo
William Young
how did nick fuentes keep his blue check? even his bro allsup lost his
Isaiah Rogers
nonwhite privilege
Jayden Howard
My main gripe with Spencer is his desire to be a part of the system. I think he envisions a future where white nationalism is a mainstream political movement, and he and his fellow e-celebs can earn shekels by being mainstream politicians. He does not have that true dissident spirit. You can see this by the way in which he reacts whenever the establishment fails him. He went on a huge whiny tirade after Charlottesville about how he never thought the police or the state would ever fail him, and that they would always at least play by their own rules and treat him fairly. More recently there's his massive string of butthurt over being de-verified on twitter, where he literally threatened to discontinue using the platform. The guy genuinely expects to be treated equally and fairly by his enemies.
Simply put, he seems unable to come to terms with his status as an outsider. He wants to use the establishment to beat the establishment.
Oliver Wright
did you read this yet
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Asher Richardson
They ignored it. Total blinders, just didn't care to see what was happening. At best, theory laughed it off and said it was deserved under their breath. When Spencer was punched, all of the sudden it was OK to admit leftist violence was real... But justified. Hell, that's as good a reason as any that he's a CIA nigger. He's the ground troop of the extensive CIA media operation.
Jace Murphy
>is it true that richard spencer has a laughably enormous trust fund
that is a meme. in 2015 he had to actually ask for donations to lawyer up and fight the Jewess trying to destroy his family's business in Montana
Robert Evans
>Something about him seems weird
Spencer is a White man who is not a cvck.
Cooper Rivera
He's not wrong, just an attention whore.
Christopher Roberts
Just copy pasta the important information. What would he have to gain from sparking a WN movement?
Lincoln Powell
1960 to 1968, the West was destroyed in just 8 years of mass televised media
Mason Perry
Spencer quote
Josiah Gomez
then how did he ever manage to rub shoulders with bush
Jack Gonzalez
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Thomas Wood
Form your own opinions. If you weren't new here you would realize this place is a primordial cesspool. Sup Forums is not one person
Wyatt Powell
take a barbed wire metal bat and slam it against that guys head as hard as you can, watch it explode and then suddenly you'll have hundreds if not thousands of little tiny "red pills" on the ground.
Chase Wright
As someone who worked with Spencer for a while, I'll repeat what I've said in every Spencer thread: he's a malignant narcissist and isn't interested in affecting meaningful political change unless he can somehow gain from it. His ideas tend to be insane and half-cocked, and he responds incredibly poorly to serious intellectual criticism. Spencer is basically a decent public speaker with a pretty face and a big bank account. He's not a shill for anyone other than himself, though I strongly suspect he's getting jerked around by Russia.
Amusingly enough, P-Man is basically a more intelligent Spencer: MPC is his NPI, basically a racist social club that tries to masquerade as some sort of serious intellectual think tank. Of course, unlike Spencer's shenanigans, MPC does generate content that impacts change (the term "cuckservative" started there) and so that gives P-Man a bit of room to take shots at Spencer.
Matthew Gray
I would not even care that Spencer is fundamentally lazy and lacks forethought if he was advancing us towards the day of reckoning. As it stands, he represents a fundamental shift in the movement away from effective cultural tactics involving content distribution and towards WN 1.0 IRL events that get all our dudes doxed and let the media take pictures of FBI informants in Klan Robes with Nazi flags and pretends that these weirdos are our dudes. It is not a good thing. It is going to kill our ability to cloak a legitimate effort of widespread racial conflict in a mask of hilarious wit and absurd cartoons. Street events only result in linear growth and we need two more rounds of logarithmic growth, the kind that you can only get through the spread of ideas that radically transform the culture. Spencer is not presenting any new ideas at these events. He's just showing his face and saying "alt-right" over and over again. He's basically killed that brand doing that. Your dismissal of my current efforts as another round of pointless drama is missing the point entirely. I intend to mitigate existential risks to the victory which I am going to assume we all actually want.
Meanwhile our President just managed to turn boomers of all people (who, let's be honest, we had entirely written off) against niggerball, the last vestige of nog tolerance, by shitposting alone. A handful of tweets and he has America's entire population of nonwhites running around screaming about how much they hate the flag, the anthem, and the nation. We should all take a page from that.
Bentley Cox
fuentes is a castizo.......He is whiter than the average white american
Caleb Nelson
Idk desu. He's definitely doing something.
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Jayden Richardson
what is Spencer accomplishing other than PR for Spencer? What is being done? There are no declared goals. There are no plans. There is a gaggle of hucksters and frauds that are damaging the useful strategies and not even gaining anything useful for themselves.
A cause doesn't simply need you to be there for it. It needs you to win for it. Spencer is not winning. He is causing damage and gaining no territory in return.
Landon Robinson
Spencer is pretty based.
Daniel James
he was member of the Duke Conservative Union, and editor of The American Conservative, aka, he was a member of the more cuckish areas of the right before 2009, which means they got to be part of the "polite society" of the republicans for a while which joined social events representing the American Conservative
the property of his mother in Montana helped with that, as it was located in a touristic area in Whitefish
Adrian Thomas
Why not? It worked for the Jews and niggers.
Parker Lopez
>no filename
So many missed opportunities
Aiden Reyes
>is it true that richard spencer has a laughably enormous trust fund
He literally owns a cotton plantation.
>ive been under the impression that he is funding the whole trs operation and paying the daily shoah boys to turn from hilarious comedians into shill political activists
That's entirely self-generated for the most part. I don't know too much about the money, but last I knew, Sven handled the cash, while Mike did tech stuff. All other leadership/administration was done by Ghoul (even if Mike presented himself as the public head), so I'd imagine TRS going down the shitter was probably related to his departure. Also, the "serious activism" thing is almost certainly in order to squeeze more funds in the wake of Mike and Sven being doxed and left unemployable. People are more likely to throw money at serious activism than they are a racist comedy podcast. That's partially why FtN is making enough money to host its own site, because it's far more legit than TDS.
Mason Rivera
Yes he is a double agent. The entire Charlottesville incident was staged.
Ayden Gomez
Spencer is a powerhouse that some of our plebs miss-understand, he is fully committed to this for life and has been at it while most of you were still sucking down blue pills.
Jose Green
he gay
David Sanders
He can be a bit of an egghead sometimes, but I don't think he's a shill. Most of the people spreading that are JIDF shills who don't like that he regularly points out Israel's ethnostate as the type of society we want for ourselves.
Robert Jones
> the main torch march at night goes by without incident and the event ends
> next day a retard decides to ram his car against protestors
> hurr durr Spencer staged this!!
Isaiah Sanders
if hes serious why hasnt he written a book
Kayden Watson
If he is, he's in some SERIOUS denial about it. I mean he's fine with gay jokes now, but he used to go ballistic when people insinuated it, and I think he still resents the allegations. I would not be surprised if he's more okay with jokes about him getting punched in the face than people questioning his heterosexuality.
Luke Watson
Irrelevant attention whore. Also unintelligent. Low art tier larp
Lincoln Barnes
please describe him going ballistic over gay jokes in detail. that sounds fucking hilarious and incredibly gay.
Grayson Martin
How many two bit wannabes write books and shill them.
If anything it's a credit in Spencer's favor that he hasn't.
Isaiah Campbell
I mean, the idea that we need to learn from trump sparking outrage against niggerball is fucking dumb. Of course I like what he did and it's important for us to drive shit like that home when he tweets it, but he's such an influential person on the world's biggest stage so of course he will have the ability to spark outrage with a couple tweets.
The point of IRL events is to show people that this is a real movement, not just an online one, I mean how much longer can we just be anons? We're losing our country more and more every day we need to start spreading to a wider audience and by protesting publicly it causes the media to freak the fuck out and cover it non stop which will in turn ensure that normies are exposed to the actual movement and see it becoming normalized.
Brody Jenkins
I don't know who organized the torchlit rally, though I suspect it was a joint Spencer/IE event. The next day's clusterfuck was all Kessler though, that's pretty well-documented.
Because he knows Greg Johnson or someone like him would pick it apart and make him look like a fucking doofus in front of his own target audience. Spencer is loathe to serious criticism, he can't handle it at all. There's a Red Ice show he was on alongside Johnson and some other guys and you can feel the Spaghetti fall out of his pockets as Johnson picks his dumbass points apart.
Carson Walker
He’s controlled opposition. Just enough to be harmless and keep the sheep on his leech, while also getting libs mad.
If you wanna know the answer to your question, though, just look at how many idiots here are saying he isn’t a shill (including European people who would be sent to jail for agreeing with him) and you can conclude he is definitely a shill.
Whenever this thread happens, all replies as “he’s not a shill stfu”, pretty blatant controlled opposition
Isaac Diaz
Great points made here
Adam Baker
Yeah writing a book doesn't mean anything in of itself.. but he has haha
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Kayden Reed
>I mean, the idea that we need to learn from trump sparking outrage against niggerball is fucking dumb. Of course I like what he did and it's important for us to drive shit like that home when he tweets it, but he's such an influential person on the world's biggest stage so of course he will have the ability to spark outrage with a couple tweets.
no
we need to keep triggering them with memes
(((echoes))) and its ok to be white are good examples of how we win
keep making them reveal their true colors in response to inocuous statements and pranks that dont get people like chris cantwell locked up without bail for who fucking knows how long
Nicholas Sanchez
Just keep speaking truth to power and you'll find the right people.
"Antisemitic" is a bullshit word used to trigger an emotional response and shut down discussion.
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Carson Williams
He is banned in many European countries now from what I heard. Afraid of another rise in “nazis” maybe?
Aaron Stewart
I was never privy to him getting assblasted, no one really was interested in gay jokes because the "Gay Spencer" meme was getting run into the ground by unfunny autists like Heimbach and Common Filth. It wasn't nearly as funny at the time due to association with their unironic conspiracyfagging about a gay mafia controlling the alt-right.
There was a story that had him going to CPAC with some buddies back when he was a semi-normie conservative and someone jokingly making a pass at him as a gag, Spencer didn't take it well at all, got really pissed and threatened to break every bone in his body or some shit. I imagine it wasn't terribly threatening, because Spencer doesn't seem to handle any sort of confrontation well. If any community had an active critic of him, he'd avoid it like the plague.
I think the IE "flash rallies" are the future of IRL organizing. Get in, make a scene, then get out before the opposition can show up. Focus on IRL culture-jamming with stuff like IE's Project Siege and IOTBW. The movement's not large and strong enough to properly organize IRL for rallies.
Landon Garcia
FELLAS we need to be clear before you post in this thread.
Noah Foster
>There was a story that had him going to CPAC with some buddies back when he was a semi-normie conservative and someone jokingly making a pass at him as a gag, Spencer didn't take it well at all, got really pissed and threatened to break every bone in his body
LMFAO
Blake Roberts
Brother, trust me I found the right people and I’m doing my job on red pilling as much as I can. Throwing em out like hot cakes
Aaron Wright
he's white, hot, thiccc, and probably into fisting. what else do you need to know???
Adam Baker
He’s a fuck boy
Xavier Carter
I think he was used to make Trump supporters look like neo-nazis in the mainstream/control the election narrative/rally the left to keep Trump in check, I think he's been way too amiable and persuasive to actually be controlled opposition. Unless powerful people want white identitarianism to be a thing, like maybe they're getting scared about how things are going. Maybe.
Liam Russell
That was beautiful
Chase Thomas
Just don't trust him too much,the moment we do his political ideology will change drastically.
Robert Morgan
I think the trend of the Nazi hair cut was put into place before the movement, I remember thinking those haircuts looked kinda weird, even somewhat faggish, it got more and more popular then all of the sudden you started seeing white Supremacist shit all in the media.
Andrew Ross
id love to see some type of massive nationwide rain of frogs type scheme where we covered every city in the country with endless stickers and posters and graffiti of pepe
Dylan Collins
yeah it was known as the Macklemore haircut for a little while too. Or the fuckboy haircut.
Brandon Cooper
Cautious optimism
Evan Sanders
Kind of softened the image of the Nazi in a way, feel like that happened pretty organically though. Then again there was Inglorious Basterds, a Weinstein production..must ponder these things here
Julian Jenkins
>Lobbied and Sucked Cock in Washington DC.
>Gets invited to Jews Media
> Spews "Muh White Privilege" for their Media
>Brags about White Supremacy and Colonization
Hard to tell.
Dylan Long
Here's a good rule of thumb you can go by, if anyone is being even remotely productive they're a government shill
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Parker Perez
>"I'll have the panned european ethnosteak thanks"
Kevin Diaz
The sad part is that there are people who unironically believe this, even though Internet National Socialism is probably where most of the feds are lurking.
Asher Long
Does he ever mention the JQ when he's on Jews Media?
Isaiah Rogers
Honestly, I think places like 8ch are a necessary evil, they do all the dirty work (i.e. doxing, harassing, bullyciding) that the left does to us, and they aren't influential enough to have a real impact on politics, which leaves that spot open for identitarian groups who actually know what they're doing
Zachary Anderson
Spencer once told a hapa she was white. He once told a half iranian girl she was white. He thinks castizos are white. He is a stupid asshole
Julian Smith
He is not a shill although 90% of the threads with him as a subject are started by anti alt right shills. He is just the most visible alt right leader. If this changes and someone else gains more prominence then there will be dozens of threads a week on Sup Forums insisting the new guy is a government shill. I am not a big Spencer fan but almost all the people attacking him are divide and conquer Jew shills.
Adrian Jones
castizos are white you faggot
Aiden Clark
I wasn't talking about 8ch, I haven't kept tabs on them since they turned their guns on TRS for the crime of getting users to promote their site on 8/pol/. I was thinking more of Stormfront and Ironmarch, the latter of which may have finally gotten V& according to what I've heard on Sup Forums.
That being said, yeah, digital attack mobs are good to have. TRS is basically the main reason why National Review Online doesn't have a comments section anymore, among other things. The problem is though, that they're notoriously hard to control, and many times blow up in your face. TRS's troll operations came to an end when they started doxing random mommybloggers for adopting black babies and the host had to drop the site from all the complaining.
Blake Gonzalez
do we really want a leader?
hes a goofy cornball
arent we better off as a hidden ubiquitous genocidal menace that liberals will potentially see lurking behind every fucking white male?
Justin Watson
wow its fucking dead
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Ayden Hall
>TRS's troll operations came to an end when they started doxing random mommybloggers for adopting black babies
hahahahahaha