Complains not just about animu, but everything about Japan in general

>Complains not just about animu, but everything about Japan in general

Why don't you guys just fucking make an atom bomb and nuke the place why dont ya?

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please don't use my waifu to shitpost, thanks

I'm sorry, I mean this in the most unironic way possible, but who the fuck are you quoting?

Who is complaining about anime?

All the tards are home for Christmas break, really can't be helped

it is funny how people try to pretend anime isn't humanity's greatest achievement

I complain about certain things in anime, not the entire form as a whole, else I wouldn't be there.

>but everything about Japan in general
Aside from the anime/manga, cuties, and warring clans period, Japan is pretty shitty for a multitude of reasons and deserves to be criticized.

Sup Forums's 'ironic' racism is how they try to convince themselves they arent actually shit eating weaboos who suck up whatever garbage animation japan shits out.

>Aside from the anime/manga, cuties, and warring clans period, Japan is pretty shitty for a multitude of reasons and deserves to be criticized.

As if the shithole you currently live in is any better. And what does criticism do? It's not like they'll listen to some stupid gaijin and change their ways.

>Being 'lel so irony' XD is so much better.

Kill yourself for real.

In exploitating Japanese people maybe

>deserves to be criticized
Literally who the fuck are you? Japanese? What makes you think you have the right to criticize a nation you have nothing to do with.

>In exploiting Koreans and Viet people maybe

FTFY

>who the fuck are you? Japanese? What makes you think you have the right to criticize a nation you have nothing to do with.
Do you realize how utterly retarded you sound?
Do I have to do heroin to argue against its use? No.
Do I have to be gay to argue for the legalization of homosexual marriage? No.
Me being non-Japanese has absolutely no effect on my ability to question the country.

Every and anything can be fairly criticized.

Do you like all the top 10 in music dominated by clone male and female idol groups the latter of which are literally all produced top down by the same guy? Do you like cartoons, mobage pachinko and a robust industry that used to do a lot of projects and had a lot of ideas that you couldn't really see anywhere and had a tendency to go places up until about a decade ago but now just pigeonholes itself into trying to make fast money off of the same layer of creepy militant otaku and now fujos over and over again while alienating everybody else? Well come to Japan, we charge up the ass for property and pretty much everything cause we have a terrible Prime Minister that can only make the economy worse.

Seriously though about the only thing that I can see that's changed in anime is the core target of production committees has shifted from going hard as fuck and constantly after moe otaku in the 14-30 demographic to going hard as all fuck after female fujoshi in the same age range. This has only really started to noticeably happen in the last couple years too.

I would if I could, believe me.

Not him but yes absolutely. See and why their pop culture is kind of in the tank to the point where a lot of everyday Japanese people even admit and lament it from a national pride perspective. They're legit worried that AKB48, Nogizaka46 and Akimoto clone idol groups are going to embarass the nation at the 2020 Olympics too where the 24 hour news channels are always looking for some sort of controversy.

...hmm...

your wife is shit

Considering Japan makes this huge fucking deal out of upcoming anime and advertises the shit out of them only to delay them without even an apology and those production outfits even happen to be owned and operated by some of Japans biggest conglomerate music companies at this point yeah it's getting embarrassing lately. That's probably one thing that Western anime fans are woefully ignorant of, the fact that virtually EVERY anime made now is produced in large part not by animation studios like in the days of old but by music outfits at the head of most production committees and decision making processes. Japan's animation industry in the 2010's is now less than a degree of separation from it's idol music industry and it really fucking shows in how it produces it's content this decade especially.

>*sound of running footsteps*
>*door gets kicked open*
>"GUYS GUYS GUYS I JUST HAD AN IDEA"
>"what?"
>"lets nuke..."
>*everyone tilts their head like a dog*
>"japan!"

If you only cherry pick and read whatever shit is spewed on 2chan or Japan Times, of course you'd have a negative view of the country.

Beyond the fear mongering, they are doing just fine, even better than 80% of the world.

No, you're the stupid one here.
Japan doesn't care for you, in fact Japanese people don't care for your thoughts and criticism regarding their nation at all. Take care of your own shit, you think you have the right to criticize anything you'd like, that you're connected by some non-existent force. I do not know where this notion came from, it sure seems to be a popular thing to do. It's not about the act, it's about the thought process behind it and thinking you have a right to something.

Nope, no lame tryhard racism, they're still best at exploiting their own people with pachinko like schemes and event tickets to engage in escapist wish fulfillment fantasies. It's also about making this niche feel really really fucking important when really they are only coveted for their sheer recklessness in spending power. This tends to result in a lot of trash output for obvious reasons.

I thought I was expressly clear that a good chunk of mainstream Japan is rightly embarassed by all this shit. Try reading what people actually say for once in your lives Sup Forums and you might clue in on something once in a while.

Anyway doesn't mean I'm gonna sugarcoat Japan's entertainment industries impressive level of stagnation that it can't help but make very public lately.

you are a shit

Who are you quoting? I never implied that buddy, settle down

I'm pretty sure nobody is expecting Shinzo Abe to suddenly browse this thread and go you know what, they're right, I'll call a diet meeting immediately tomorrow to fix all this. Like really not even sure what you're on about or trying to defend here.

Do you actually think Sup Forums even knows who Abe is user? These are some impressively dumb people whose life experience and knowledge begins and ends with waifus, circlejerks on forums and arguing bitterly with each other over pop culture and which cartoon girl will end up with which cartoon guy and why you're Satan himself if you think otherwise.

Who gives a flying fuck about what the japs think about fucking anything. You sounds exactly like those retards you see in news article comments defending china or some other shithole

China vs Japan.

>another Sup Forums thread

Its not anymore embarrassing than what passes as popular in the West. Like what should they push for some enka for the Olympics which even regular Japanese people don't even listen to anymore? Stop playing into their inferiority complex. It's because their constant need to "keep up with the Joneses" aka the West that got them into this mess.

>Japan doesn't care for you, in fact Japanese people don't care for your thoughts and criticism regarding their nation at all.
You're making an assertion that you cannot possibly back up, plus you're missing the point.
The issues I bring up are those that are echoed by many. An individual's private posting may not be brought up before a nation, but the general ideas and arguments tend to.

>that you're connected by some non-existent force. I do not know where this notion came from
I don't know either, but you sound like a butthurt weeaboo who wishes to defend his dreamland with pseudo-intellectual babble.

Japan has issues. Bringing those issues up encourages discussions and debates.
This is a process that exists by nature.
Pretending that people are incapable of arguing something because "u dunt kno cuz u aint 1" is poor logic.

For starters, they're the ones who actually buy shit and can dictate what gets made or not in regards to your favorite Cartoons.

What do you mean defend. This is exactly why I said this in the first place. You bathe in your own ignorance and think you're so righteous and moral. I don't have anything to do with Japan outside of consuming their media. I don't have any right to criticize them. It's not about Japan, it could be about any other nation.

>You bathe in your own ignorance and think you're so righteous and moral.
There you go with your pseudo-intellectual bullshitting again.
Bringing up issues with a country and arguing a point has nothing to do with righteousness, it's just arguing a point.

> I don't have anything to do with Japan outside of consuming their media. I don't have any right to criticize them.
Yes, in fact, you do. It has nothing to do with what your ties are to the subject in question. I don't need to be African to tell you that Somalia has serious issues with drugs, piracy, and illegal arms trade (among others).

>I don't need to be African to tell you that Somalia has serious issues with drugs, piracy, and illegal arms trade (among others).

Not him, but comparing a simplistic, dirt poor country like Somalia is a poor one knowing that Japan is much more complex in how they go about their society.

>The issues I bring up are those that are echoed by many. An individual's private posting may not be brought up before a nation, but the general ideas and arguments tend to.
>Japan has issues. Bringing those issues up encourages discussions and debates.
This is a process that exists by nature.

Please, Japan has dealt with this kind of shit for ages. Just because they acknowledge that their country has issues doesn't mean that they'll take evasive action the next day. They told the UN to fuck off. They invented tentacle porn to get past censorship laws. Foreigners generally scrape the surface of those affairs, so it largely goes ignored, give or take the type of situation.

>They told the UN to fuck off
That was gold.

forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/03/03/japanese-response-to-un-proposed-ban-for-media-depicting-sexual-violence-is-cogent-and-sane/#4275ceef1795

Be careful!

>I complain about certain things in anime, not the entire form as a whole, else I wouldn't be there.
>consuming media

People complain about things all the time on their blogs, yet don't bother to take action even if they choose not to. It's like the saying "a dog's bark is worse than its bite. So pretty much like

Once again, you fail to understand simple points. It is not me who is bathing in "pseudo-intellectual bullshit".
What does your issue with a nation that is irrelevant to your life matter, you're not Japanese, yes? You don't have the right to freely go about criticizing other nations' policies regarding their internal affairs. It shows great ignorance on your part, unless you've lived or live in said country in which case you should show even greater respect for even being allowed to live there.
The only reason you do this is because it makes you feel better about yourself. No one cares, neither Japan nor other people unless they act like you.

Comparing Somalia, an uncivilised state, with Japan once again shows great ignorance. Still though, you're right in the sense that it would appear that Somalia has problems. The difference? Piracy, drug and illegal arms trade affect other nations. The internal policies of Japan, or other nations, do not. Until they do of course but in this case they do not as far as I know.

I'm not comparing the countries, I'm just highlighting a point.
There is absolutely no common ground between Somalia's issues and Japan's issues.
The idea is that it matters fuck all your connections to the country, you are still able to argue things about them.

I'm not sure what we're talking about because lolis and censorship isn't the type of issues that I think would matter.
The economy, population, work-culture, and international relations are far more pressing.

All you're doing is elongating the sentence "since you're not Japanese, you can't say anything about Japan" which is blatantly false and ignorant.
You are fully capable of arguing and criticizing against/for a system you are not part of.
This is not something hard to comprehend.

>Comparing Somalia, an uncivilised state, with Japan once again shows great ignorance.
For fuck's sake, I'm making a point regarding the ability for a person to argue about things unrelated to them (as mentioned above). I could've said France or Germany, that's not what the message is.
I swear, you must have English as a second language, because you keep saying that same shit and ignoring the basic fact that association has nothing to do with ability to interpret and analyze.

If you're talking about stuff like low birth rates and the workaholic environment, I see where you're coming from. Still, even though they do say they're working to resolve the urgent matter, it'll take a while for them to fully adjust to their new routines and solutions as they see fit. All in all, priorities.

They're at that phase of weebiness when they want to distance themselves from that "I LUV JAPAN" phase of their life as far as possible. Eventually, one will reach the stage when they accept both the cool and shitty things about Japan and just appreciate it as it is.

You see this is your issue, more than once have I explained my point yet all you got is a wrong understanding even though it is very clear.
No, you do not have the right to criticize the internal actions of nations unless they affect you or at least other nations. So no, it's not about "can't say anything about Japan"

As for the second part, Somalia is not a working example because it would appear that what happens in Somalia has an international affect. This is not the case with Japanese internal politics. You act as if you have the right to say whatever you want.

You say population and work culture. But how are these related to you? What experience do you have in these fields that allow you to talk about the internal workings of the nation?

And in the end, japan will have fixed its population problem without desecrating it's genetic purity via mass immigration.

>No, you do not have the right to criticize the internal actions of nations unless they affect you or at least other nations
I'm done, your ignorance is beyond fucking measure.
Enjoy your shitty thread.

Ironic weebs are the worst kind of cancer.