Existence

Black pill (or white pill time)... simply put bros why the fuck are we here?

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To suffer on the cross.

stop asking questions, run the simulation again

Does there need to be a reason?

Hopefully not sarcastically. I want to believe so bad. It seems the only thing I pray for lately is renewed faith.

Because we are.

And we are because?

Reading about classical theism vs theistic personalism has helped to buoy my faith somewhat, and help to articulate what it is that I dislike about modern Christians. Classical metaphysics + classical natural law + classical theism is the answer to many of our problems.

In an ultimate sense, for the glory of God.

In a more temporal sense, perhaps it's to fight the decline of our civilization? To marry, to have children, to do meaningful work, to build up our people, perhaps even to lay our lives on the line when the time comes?

It's hard to say until the end what the temporal purpose of an individual life might be. Hindsight is 20/20.

Indeed. The Endarkenment was a bane to theology, and thus to anthropology as well.

Any suggested reading?

Many are gonna disagree but honestly there is no reason for every reason we come up with is basically our own but in this infinite universe we are meaningless specks floating aimlessly so just do what makes you happy man, aslong as your not hurting others. If you think mankind is gonna be around longer than the dinosaurs then your sorely mistaken

Go with Aquinas for Natural Law. But you should also read Aristotle and the Bible to understand how Aquinas thinks.

you don't have to be

To find out what the right things to do is and to do the right things for the sake of doing the right things, not for the sage of glory, comfort or pleasure.

Suffering fuels the machines

pretentious prick you deserve a [[you]]

[[you]] too

your just a fucking leaf.

Why do I feel guilty after fapping to porn? Why do I have a conscious? Why do I want justice for my race? No, I refuse the nihilistic or hedonistic approach to life.

We're here to
Know Thyself
but most of us are way too stupid, lazy and conformist to do so.

For the lulz

Is this why I cannot for the life of me get my friends to have a real conversation about these types of things? Why does everyone just tell me “to just live.”

That’s... actually not a terrible point

To suffer and deal with the corruption and failure of life on earth, all the while making the best choices and striving for perfection. Even though you will ultimately fail and be humbled because fighting on is always better than giving in.

We will all be judged on what have become here on earth and the "wheat separated from the chaff"

After that is anyone's guess, but I assume it will be some task that require a mortal perspective.

To become a powerful wizard and reach for the stars user.

>Just breath, eat, shit, sleep, and consume bro.
Because they are normies, and they are equally as enveloped in the Jewish materialism that pervades this life as you are - so they know no other way to live.

That's the basis of existentialism, "if nothing matters then are given the freedom to just make our own reason for life... LMAO COMMUNISM"

By accident

Edward Feser mostly. I haven't gotten a chance to read Thomas Aquinas proper, but I'll get there eventually I'm sure. David Oderberg is also good, though I don't know if he is Jewish. All his views align with the Catholic Church afaik.

the meaning of life is to live it

the universe wanted to percieve itself

We only exist to make babies so that the Lucifer organism will arrive one day.

>simply put bros why the fuck are we here?

The big bang, everything that happened after can be explained by that. We come from infinitly dense, super hot energy.

As for why the big bang happened or what happened before(if there even was a before) hasn't really been figured out yet

If you don't make babies, you are not useful to the DNA chain.

OP, we are here to: procreate with black women, dismiss god, support faggotry, and buy as many things we can with loans before we die. Think about it.

Aye, that much is true. We all are definitely fallen. Sometimes I can’t help but feel how bizarre this whole life really is.

Thanks goy, things are finally looking up!

A giant battle between two competing omniscient beings? Our God won?

kys nihilist scumbag

Arent you supposed to be dead or did you fight through the woods.
Or are you just a (you) farmer

Don't know. It's weird.

It make me feel uncomfortable when I think for too long about how the fuck all this began. Like there had to be a start point for the universe right? But how could matter have just always existed?

A creator? But why has he/she/it totally abandoned us? Why are we so alone and frightened? And why do we feel as if we even matter?

right on man

>the universe wanted to percieve itself
We are the thinking part of the universe

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Because God wanted to have intelligent conversation, after trillions of years of speaking to that retard Satan.

This is also true.

I want to live in a homogeneous beautiful society with peace and prosperity and feel like I belong. I want to see beautiful architecture and be able to walk into the town center and feel like I'm a part of something. I want to wake up in the morning with purpose and feel like I'm contributing to something greater. And every day when we wake up and experience something different it wears us down, so some of us come here to be nihilistic because we've ate the black pill and others to shitpost and be among like-minded people for a little while.

>To find out what the right things
To consider something to be "right"
you must also consider something to be "wrong"

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Just for some of you cunts that want to be real woke

.On a serious note really good material and fun to watch/listen to

I'm 18 guys, and I feel like I'm the only one, or rather I am one of very few in this age bracket, younger or older, that is really perplexed when it comes to the overall meaning of life. What I'm trying to say is that I say my friends all around me, and I feel as if I'm the only one that really pays attention to life, and doesn't succumb to hedonism and materialism. I miss my childhood, when we didn't care about life or its meaning or anything like that. I feel I'm too young to think about this. I feel it's too early to think about this notion and I should've just been ignorant and continued on. Does anyone else feel this way? I mean, most Sup Forumsacks I've spoken with here seem to be 24+.

That's what the tree of knowledge of good and evil is about.
Man already knew good, because he was under God's care and followed God's laws. When he ate fruit from that tree, he basically said "Yeah, I wanna experience evil also", even if he didn't really realized it yet. That's why humans are so easily manipulated by Satan and sin, ever since.
To "know" something you need to experience it.

If it means anything
I hope you made it through the woods

This place truely comforts me to find that I’m not alone in this avenue of thinking. I cannot pretend to be a zombie any longer. Nobody I associate with in real life truely understands the way I think and feel except when I escape to this site. I’m fucking depressed and worn down and the black pill is a daily supplement at this point. I just want hope.

Thank you for a very thoughtful post bro. Coming here keeps me going sometimes.

>what it is that I dislike about modern Christians
Yeah? What is it? Genuinely curious.

Be comforted, Leb-user; for yours is the class of the philosopher, and that for the kingdom of God. It is an exceedingly rare man who looks upon the world and makes it his primary point of contention - and it is a point of contention, to be sure.

I can remember being under ten years of age and arguing about the nature of existence and God with my family. It has been a life-long trouble of mine. Your life will be lonely and hard to bear; these are the cost for the gift of understanding.

We have to make our own hope in the world. It's unfortunately up to us to live our lives in a way that we would like society to mimic and hope we can make others follow. We can raise our children in a way that made them proud of their fathers so they can maybe walk the same path. We can only be stoic.

to be tried and tested

This. Some modern Christians I’m friends with strive everyday to truely be as Christlike as possible. I will admit that I’m not in this category. It’s truely admirable if you know some of these people I’m talking about.

everyone ITT who are mentally unhinged should learn how to WEAPONIZE and effectively fight the enemy on the eheric plane
>t. a manilafag who hears the screams of despairing housewives and crying streetchildren before going to sleep

*etheric

We are here to suffer, and to know well the meaning of evil and pain. We are here to allow for true agency to come forth in our actions. Everything required is here if one truly desires to know the nature of reality, but it is not an easy task, and one must devote one's self to it entirely, because it is the only thing that matters.

This world allows us to draw our own line in the sand in the sight of God. This is a testing grounds in a sense.

Everything you have ever done - every heroic deed, and every pain you caused another, will be shown to you in vivid detail upon your death, when you will get to watch the entire episode of your Earthly life with God.

Truely I know this to be true. What a humbling sentiment to think about. How weak am I as a man to be complaining online. What cross have I had to bear?

Just to suffer.

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You're arrogant to think you can make your own hope. This world is hopeless, bub. Didn't you even get that far yet? Better find Jesus real quick like. Tick-tock.

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I believe it is better to understand and be in it alone than go along with the flock of ignorance. I try not to pay too much attention to it though, as I have other things to do. However, when I am left alone, that point more or less comes back to me sometimes. Thanks for the input user.

So to follow up with you, this is definitely a hard pill to swallow. The guilt begins to seep in... I already feel unworthy. I have done more wrongs than true goods. I know this. I am willing to devote myself to living as true and righteous as possible. But will it be enough? Do we truely serve a forgiving God?

You are allowed to be weak and falter, what matters is that you keep pressing on and make enough strides that you are ever going forward. Meditations by Marcus Aurelius has been helpful for me, try it out if you haven't read it yet.

Interesting post. Can you share more about this and about what you mean?

during my praying sessions with my specialized tulpa, sometimes i visualize this flag, with a large snake coiled around it, WAVING above the corpses of dead jews.
in other words, i pray to the female dealy version of KeK, which is Kauket-chan

I will look deeper into Meditations. Reading up on Mattis led me to read some excerpts. Ill delve deeper. Thanks user

Brother, he is a kind and patient Father, and he loves each of us more than we can know. We have all fallen short of the sinless life of Jesus Christ. He was perfect so we would not have to suffer the second death.

What is more important than devoting yourself to righteousness is to devote yourself to God; from him will righteousness follow. God has made heroes out of many a barbarous and sinful man. God loves to confound the "wise" by displaying his power in this way.

the books give you instructions on how to strengthen your willpower and focus.
the New Agers got it right when they tell us that meditation does change our physical reality.

the thing is, muscleheads who are aware that they get what they want just by focusing on their plans HAVE the highest success of attracting their desired outcome. and this is why soldiers have very strong auras

Meditation opens you up to unwelcome entities.

>I should've just been ignorant and continued on.
Never give up on thinking and reason, user. It's what separates us from the animals. Without it, we're weaker, hairless version of an ape.
Even if you find answers only for 1/100000 of your questions, how infinitely better is that than someone who never pondered about them and found none? Even if you find none of the answers, how better is he who posed a question than he who didn't question anything?
I don't know how much comfort it will give you, but I believe that whenever we manage to improve ourselves, be it physically, or (more importantly, because body will wither) mentally and spiritually, whether it's philosophy, physics or writing doesn't matter; we get this one small step closer to God, for He is excellent in every level.

You're welcome, bro. Truly, there is no gift greater than understanding. The world is vanity, noise, and wrong-thinking. The philosopher is always a warrior, by necessity. If you are blessed you will find some who understand you, but silence is your best friend.

Of course, this is why you learn on how shield yourself and learn on how to bypass their bullet (i.e. negative energies directed at you)

I can learn from this user, thanks as well. I have made a fool of myself many times trying to force a red pill. I need to embrace more silence.

I would rather stay away from it altogether, as I once was interested in meditation and other similar practices.

>The guilt begins to seep in.

No sin can outweight Jesus' sacrifice. Look at ISIS or Hzbollah fighters who have been forgiven. You can also man

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>Do we truly serve a forgiving God?

You have NO idea how forgiving He is.

Thanks for the response. I'll consider what you wrote.

heh so you've seen them too....

I like that last bit. We do become closer to God, which is why I am trying to rejuvenate my faith and return to Jesus. What sucks about today's world is that, as a Maronite (Eastern Catholic), the Church post Vatican II has been subverted, and all the popes after Vatican II have been spouting heresies, leading people astray. Padre Pio, in old age, saw this coming and was thankful that he would almost be dead soon so that he wouldn't have to live in such a society of heresy.

Who's "them"?

Oh no I haven't thankfully, which is why I am staying away from such practices. Divination, tarot reading, astral projections, I believe are works of the devil to further lead us astray.

just a head's up:
THE ENEMY IS ALSO RESISTING

the jews have very powerful rabbis that has destroyed nations since ancient times.
SO INVEST IN HAVING A VERY POWERFUL SHIELDING AURA AND VENTING ALL YOU RAGE ON THE GYM TOO, so that it circles itself

It's for our descendants to find out and for us to play our part in making whatever progress we can towards finding out and making sure mankind keeps on existing until they do.

Thanks for the video man. As a Lebanese who is surrounded by Shias and Sunnis, some of which are in Hezbollah or have affiliations with the group, I relate to the video.

literal shadow beings that fags on /x/ keeps on obssessing.
i almost got killed by them, but oddly enough i quickly visualized satan's sigil(google it) and they went away

>I already feel unworthy
All men are unworthy.
"But the centurion answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed" (...) Now when Jesus heard this, He marveled, and said to those who were following, “Truly I say to you, I have not found such great faith with anyone in Israel"." Matthew 8,8 & 8,10
You are saved not by your actions, but by grace of God. You needn't be afraid, for your guilt is a testament of your faith.
If there wasn't a forgiving God, then we would all be damned.

Are they cute like the ones in that pic?

i wish though.
fuckers are edgy

could be nothing really, in which case embrace it and live to the fullest, mushrooms, DMT, and LSD can really help you relish in the chaos and find peace in your fragility or perhaps there is a god, a creator, a divine being guiding or testing us in some way or another, or perhaps we're a simulation on an alien NEETs computer game. If i could run The Sims 3000 with hyperrealistic sentient AI i would definitely derive pleasure in rewarding those who evolved with traits to recognize and capitalize on and embrace the paranormal (in this idea cheatcodes/glitches)

>i almost got killed by them
Care to share your story?

Yeah it sucks. But I believe that Bible warned us about a fallen Church (Whore of Babilon in Revelation). And it will be destroyed and true Church will triumph.

God bless you bro, you've got all my love and respect for living in the truth in such a dangerous context.

John 18:21
“If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first.
The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world.
I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you.
Do you remember what I told you? ‘A slave is not greater than the master.’ Since they persecuted me, naturally they will persecute you.
And if they had listened to me, they would listen to you.
They will do all this to you because of me, for they have rejected the one who sent me.

Matthew 5:11

"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

To suffer, trough suffering we learn and pass knowledge to future generations.
Then our future generations will suffer, we need to prepare them and carry the torch.

Suffering never ends, you just can arm yourself better against it. That's why you embrace it and learn from it.
Be like Odin, hang yourself on the tree of life and gain knowledge.