Let's assume they were really into environmentalism and all that it entails, would you? True environmentalists are for population control in Africa for heavy investments in abortion clinics, birth control and incentive programs for sterilization. Also, true environmentalists are for closed borders as one of the most energy heavy and problematic things is low skills immigration into the Western world clocking up cities. Lastly, true environmentalists want rules, discipline and strength of society. Only a strong, cohesive society without problems arising from multiculturism can focus on the problems of environmental pollution and turning to a 100% green energy, nuclear energy world.
Would you consider the green party as a legitimate party
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Nolan Perez
No
When I was 18 and pozzed, I voted Green at home in Ireland for that reason- they were the only ones interested in the environment. It hadn't even struck me that they also had positions like wanting more immigration, higher taxes, etc.
Green politics will only ever be attractive to our guys if it's based on the Ted Pill, i.e. right-wing environmentalism.
If there was a Ted-style rightwing party, then yes. But in reality, no.
Lincoln Morris
sounds reasonable
Carter Rodriguez
I would vote for them.
James Allen
The german greens and those like them are primarily cultural Marxists hiding within the skin of environmentalism.
It's clear if you look at the social part of the german green agenda, not the environmental one.
All parties care about the environment, the greens are only good at pretending to be the only ones caring by demanding idiotic solutions for simple problems.
e.g. too much CO2
Greens: Shut down nuclear power, ban nuclear research, shut down coal power plants use available land for bio-fuel production (leading to cutting down rain-forests to plant more in other parts of the world) and ban the use of "too much" energy since the policies reduce energy production while increasing its environmental impact.
Rather than simply investing in 4th generation Nuclear power plant research that allows for transmutation without nuclear proliferation.
An interesting question to ask a german green voter is that if he/she/it cares for keeping foreign plants and animals out of the local environment, why is the party politic the opposite for humans, although animals more related to each other than some human population groups are kept in separate cages in zoos in order not for them to mix.
James Gonzalez
>Shut down nuclear power
That's fucking stupid. Nuclear is pretty clean compared to coal, it would make more sense if they shut down the coal plants and funneled more money into nuclear plants until true "clean energy" becomes a viable option for an entire country.
Michael Bennett
Cooper Watson
How about we end up making our own green party. One which actually cares about the environment.
My first 5 points would be:
1. Heavy investments in nuclear energy to get to French levels
2. Heavy investments in e-car charging infrastructure
3. Closure of the EU borders to limit poverty immigration
4. 10 billion to reduce African fertility growth to 2% - 2.5%
5. Sports training programs for kids promoting naturalism and militarism
Lucas Cruz
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Ayden Smith
A new Green party could be based as fuck.
Jackson Robinson
Yes, the Green party is cucked, but the German are talking about an alternative party here.
Carson Jenkins
No deportation?
No closure of all non-European immigration?
The non-Europeans in Germany NEEDS to be deported.
Carter Lewis
A one child policy for those on welfare domestically as well as foreign aid internationally would remove the stigma of racial discrimination making it much easier to sell,
based on the immorality of taking money form those working, not having the time and resources to reproduce and giving it to those living of welfare having more and more children.
Dominic Walker
>Also, true environmentalists are for closed borders
you're full of shit
link where the german green party says that ir BTFO
the greem is just another division of the red menace: commies
Owen Brooks
David Icke says that most "green" parties are controlled opposition
Adam Hall
This
The Green party in Sweden is the islamist party, no fucking joke
They banned people from the party for speaking out about islamist infiltration AND they advocate for open borders
Latest "demand" they got passed from the government was amnesty for all ''''''child''''' migrants who came in 2015 so now we cant deport those fuckers
>4. 10 billion to reduce African fertility growth to 2% - 2.5%
We need less
And its not hard to fix
Girls need to have a hormonal birth control installed if they want food. Everytime she gets handouts you check if the control method is still there and if not then she can fuck off
Robert Sanders
im a green member already and I stand for what you envision, too bad that most of the party isnt environmentalist anymore but feminist and multiculturalist
Anthony Hall
I said true environmentalists. An environmentalist is someone who wants to protect the environment. Uncontrolled low skilled immigration is costly and because 90% of this immigration goes straight into big cities which are the most energy inefficient areas of Germany, you are creating a huge problem for the environment.
Keeping third world people in the third world where they use 1/10th of the energy people use in Germany is better for the environment and the climate.
Landon Cook
>No closure of all non-European immigration?
Number 3?
>3. Closure of the EU borders to limit poverty immigration
Thomas Jackson
and yet you open with green party ads
Josiah Diaz
They're just Communists using a different name.
The Green party here openly says they want World Government.
(Bob Brown on Q&A some years ago)
Daniel Bennett
No, not at all.
They are pro-open door policy for refugees which is a stiff of death for our social system, their energy policy is not sustainable and they are unlovable llamma-wool scarf-wearing eco-cunt feminists.
I really don't think this party is in any way legitemate, every time something serious is discussed they retort to using emotional warfare in the argument instead of sober reasonable thought.
Angel Foster
Of course an actual real environmentalist wouldn't want unrestricted immigration, high 3rd world birth rates, and would be all in favor of nuclear power to curb emissions and waste.
But there are no Green parties that are actually environmentalist, it's just talking points to secure their real goal; more leftism. They don't really give a damn about the planet. They're like PeTA claiming to care about animals when the operate the highest % kill shelters in the country. The supposed reason for their organization to exist is just a smokescreen for them to gain power over people and that's the only REAL goal they've ever had.
Camden Rogers
>Number 3?
So rich Sub-Saharans and Middle-Easterners should be allowed to come? War refugees should be allowed to come?
Joshua Martin
Why the fuck are you a member of the biggest pro-German genocide party?
Nathaniel Nelson
Sounds good but it seems that only libfags are into that shit, which means nationalism would be toxic.
Evan Gutierrez
>im a green member already
Why...just why
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Why are you supporting a party thats know for wanting to eradicate germans?
Jaxson Phillips
because when I joined they werent that bad and the only environmentalist party around. Now im basically still in it to keep tabs on what they plan.
Anthony Ramirez
>their policy (which merkel executed) of closing nuclear powerplants led to us importing electricity from france, while having even higher co2 output anyway
>most devoted mudslime lovers, self proclaimed defenders of "poor refugees"
>scream nazi at everything and everybody
>call themselves liberal but like censoring opposition and "hate speech"
>keep telling the EU to enforce migrant quotas upon member states
>their supporters are naive and arrogant rich kids in ivory towers, living in what we like to call the "ponnyhof", german for "pony ranch"
Worst german party by fucking parsecs.
They should die in a fire, and so should OP.
Brandon Roberts
Join a party that wants to limit, stop or better deport all non-Europeans to Europe/Germany instead. You are using energy on genociding your own people by being a member there.
Ethan Long
How about taping what they plan and leaking the most extreme stuff when the time is right?
Michael Scott
>and yet you open with green party ads
What do you mean?
Lucas Walker
I'm in!
Brayden Thompson
>So rich Sub-Saharans and Middle-Easterners should be allowed to come?
Depends on our immigration laws. I think the number of legal immigration from Sub-Saharan countries and the Middle East to Germany is in the 0.01% area.
Luis Harris
Just what you wrote implies war refugees etc. should be allowed. Also no deportation?
Camden Garcia
no point in taping stuff. the newsletters are enough
and which party would that be here?
Brain dead idiots of the NPD? Think rednecks but poorer and more stupid. Basically human trash that thinks white power is gonna give them the self-confidence they always lacked.
The AfD? They cant hide their power level at all. Probably a vessel of the Verfassungsschutz and controlled opposition that the other parties can point towards and say: "look what being anti-immigrant is like" and rally around being the "good guys" in contrast to. The guys that are at the top are basically opportunist that like to have their 5 minutes in the spot light. If they cared at all about what they try to accomplish, they'd stop the fucking around and behave.
Chase Stewart
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John Fisher
so your idea is to not even attempt to deport them, because you feel the parties have stigmata...
Nice sunken-ship fallacy, mate.
Jose Edwards
>EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTATION INTENSIFIES
Mason Howard
>no point in taping stuff. the newsletters are enough
Not really, Newsletters are boring on YouTube ... the greens are strong with young and female voters you wouldn't expect to read something unless it's homework, the horoscope, or the latest gossip about celebrities.
Joshua Reed
AfD is filled with "white trash" because white trash people don't care what other people/the media thinks. It's one of their few good qualities.
If people like you, I asumme you consider yourself non-trash, stopped caring so much about what others think, these parties wouldn't be filled with these people. The tops wouldn't be elected by these people.
In what fucking way does it justify being member of the Green party? Because it gives you an social advantage? Your image is more important than the future of your people and the earth's environment?
Also what about Identitarians? Smaller anti-immigration groups? Doesn't have to be a political party. Just be organized against immigration, and leave the organization if it gets infiltrated by the police and join the next best one. Always be organized where you think it matters the most to be organized.
Jack Martin
>>EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTATION INTENSIFIES
So?
Jack Martinez
>Politicians elected to represent the needs of the people enter a building whose entering arch says "For the German people"
>Don't be so self-centered white german trash, achmed in a third world country that is not in the eu nor in alliance with us needs our help, and no, not all muslims are terrorist, according to angel merkel's speech its only 6% and yes, 6% of only a million (we have more by now) that would be 10.000 radicals, most probably more and them being able to radicalize more, but you know who the real victim after a terrorist attack is? the muslims! they live under the stigmata that they'll gangrape our children, but you know what? we should be more tollerant although the people we invite so welcoming stone faggots, hang alduterers and cut off a thieve's hands, but WE are the real problem, you white-trash bigot.
Jose Collins
Sry Breivik but your way may be good for your conscience, but to actually achieve something, you cant alienate the normal population. Small steps is what is important. Why do you think the greens didnt get to enter a coalition with the libertarians and the christians here? Because of their immigration policies? No, it's because of the environmental policies the talks have failed. These are the issues that I push in the party and it's people like me in the party that keeps it from going sweden style. I wont run away from feminists.
Noah Allen
If you argument emotionally, that means factual argumentation is not your cup of tea, that means feelings (which are subjective) govern your acting therefore making you incapable of acting rationally, and should not be on such a high echalon of power that it gets to regulate our government and legislate laws.
don't "so" me, you deadbeat.
Wyatt Sanchez
>All parties care about the environment
no
Nicholas Price
Gotta agree with the filthy commie here, what the actual fuck were you thinking?
No, only like 2-3 parties do.
AfD does partially, The CDU tertiary and the Grüne does primarily
Blake Morgan
Most argumentation in politics is emotional. Look at pic related, it may look non-emotional, but it really is not.
Jonathan Flores
I'd like to disagree there, also all propaganda posted here is all Grüne... not really favoring your point, but that the Grüne loves to argue emotionally.
I suppose you vote grüne based on the way you speak to me though, aren't you?
Carson Reed
Fuck off Hippie. Forests are for faggots. Death to Nature. We shall rape her and fill her womb with the dead of industry.
Jose Scott
(Seed of Industry)
Liam Hernandez
>Forests are for faggots
thx Tryone, black people really hate nature, why?
Christopher Roberts
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The question is not do they care, the question is do they consider current measurements sufficient or useful.
Not wanting to change regulations to be striker is not equal to a lack of caring for the environment.
Especially if you have one party screaming of the top of their lungs to ban anything that looks suspiciously environmentally unfriendly ...
Dylan Rogers
no gibs
Carson Sanchez
What have trees ever done for me? Fuck trees. We need to bring back Coal Plants. Turn the Shwarzenwald into a fuel source. Tie down Mother nature and throat her with the might of Fossil Fuels.
Luis Myers
You are a half Bosnian Rape baby.
Christopher Long
Nah.. A bunch of pc pushy snobs trying to shame others into giving them money..
I don't give 2 shits what they want.
Jaxson Walker
Good point, meme-flag.
I think we are on a good course, when maybe not even too harsh one, because we close down a reliable energy source (Coal and Uranium) in favor of a fluctuating energy source that pretty much fries our energy grid.
It's the Energy policy of the Greens that makes no sense to me.
For some Anectodal evidence:
My father is in his 50s and he's seen cars from back then and today, and he had troubles breathing the air in some townsquares because of the gas fumes, but breathes easily today in the biggest cities of germany, therefore finds the green's idea to ban or further strangle the co2 emission limitations are absolute bollocks.
Jose Gutierrez
The sad truth.
Kevin Evans
The real truth.
Parker White
When you get older you see enough apocalyptic predictions turn out to be false to take new one with a grain of salt.
And you also tend to look at the bright side of environmental change:
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The main idiocy of the German greens at the moment is that they sacrifice natural population reduction (Germany was reaching its peak population, starting to decline), which is certainly positive for nature, to multiculturalism and anti-german racism.
This alone should have been enough for people see that german greens are not a primarily environmentalist party ...
I wonder why they don' t...
Mason Morales
Did you think I insulted "white trash" people? Actually white trash people in general tend themselves better than the general population. They oppose their ethnic replacment. Read what I wrote again.
>Breivik
Was a retard that wasn't organized and attacked a summer camp filled innocent with Norwegian children.
Meanwhile the German population will be genocided. Good job
Brayden Lewis
I would like to know where you are from, or implore you drop the meme-flag, sir.
I voted the AfD (German Conservative Social Nativists) and plan so if re-elections would happen (so help merkel god)
Austin Robinson
Oh, no, no, no.
I just entertained the thought-process of this all.
Norge's are cool with me, plus they're not in the EU so there is wisdom beyond time in your people.
You faggots are Sup Forums's saviors. saving and achiving threads like no other.
Wyatt Phillips
Why vote for an environmentalist party when National Socialism would also protect the environment?
Grayson Sanchez
because no one would vote them
Jackson Thomas
If AfD and Greens had a coalition I think that would be pretty rad. It won't happen though.
Anti-immigration + pro-environment seems pretty reasonable t-b-h
Noah Morales
True environmentalism is a NatSoc position and I support it. ‘Green’ parties are a multi-faceted leftist scam and the people voting for them are gullible sheep.
Daniel Price
no. they're all the same in every country, and there's nothing environmentalist or "green" left in them - just "import more niggers"
Aaron Thomas
I'm obviously an environmentalist and what I truly wish, is that all the parties regardless of ideological position were environmentalists too.
Kevin Sanders
>no. they're all the same in every country, and there's nothing environmentalist or "green" left in them - just "import more niggers"
Sure?
Thomas Bell
>voting
Mason White
>Innocent Children
Feminist college students from Olso aren’t children.
William Roberts
>but to actually achieve something, you cant alienate the normal population
The silent majority is meaningless and has never throughout history changed anything. Don’t cater to that level please.