>Historian Al-Masudi in the 9th century was once asked why has science has declined in the Roman Empire, while the Islamic world had thrived.
>Al-Masudi said: "ancient Greek and Romans had allowed the sciences to flourish, then they adopted Christianity. when they did so they affected the signs of learning, eliminated its traces and destroyed its paths."
Even sandnigger towelheads in the 9th Century knew how bad to let faith go to the extreme, so why should we let Christcucks send us back to the Dark period?
Europe flourished when people took some powers from the Church. Europe advanced even more when people stopped giving a damn about faith.
endgame of science is bill nye sticking his dick in feces
Jacob Sullivan
>sandnigger towelheads in the 9th Century knew how bad to let faith go to the extreme they appear to have forgotten this
Lucas Torres
Yet Christians made the greatest scientific discoveries of all time. Always have and always will.
Connor Collins
>sandnigger towelheads in the 9th Century knew how bad to let faith go to the extreme
how ironic
Easton Walker
Because Christians stopped taking faith too seriously
Camden Johnson
fpbp p b p
Christopher Myers
Still much better than Christcucks end game
Wyatt Clark
>Europe advanced even more when people stopped giving a damn about faith. >Prove me wrong Well, europe is turning pagan again so we 'll see the end results in some decates. Until now it doesn't look very bright. And stop reading meme history.
Samuel Flores
"ancient Greek and Romans had allowed the sciences to flourish"
You mean the Arab world. All of their real accomplishments were pre islam.
Aiden Perry
With the Byzantines, the Arabs had peace. The Europeans with their stupid crusades fucked up everything. Two crusades against the Byzantines and other two against the Arabs. Byzantium had awesome Architecture btw, it was the biggest city in the world.
Weren't the arabs basically relatively small nomad tribes at that point?
Chase Butler
>Weren't the arabs basically relatively small nomad tribes at that point?
No. Egypt and Syria was Byzantine States. The Europeans came down here to kick the muslims out of the holy land, that's why two crusades was against the Byzantines.
The sand niggers, stole the Roman library's, and later burnt them as un Islamic. That's where they got their knowledge from. Western Rome had fallen, long before Mohamed was a twinkle in his dad's eye. But the library's had survived under Byzantium.
Ayden Gonzalez
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Camden Torres
>That's where they got their knowledge from.
Alexandria was the ancient Harvard, and the Romans burned it and loot it.
During Caesar's Civil War, Julius Caesar was besieged at Alexandria in 48 BC. Many ancient sources describe Caesar setting fire to his own ships[25][26] and state that this fire spread to the library, destroying it.[26]
Jackson Green
what are christian monks, recording and archiving everything we know about the past and other cultures?
Tyler Hughes
this can not be real
Camden Sullivan
The dark ages are a myth. Quite a lot of scientific and cultural achievement happened during the middle ages. What appears to be europe becoming christian causing science to die was actually the result of the roman empire collapsing due to massive wars, an unsustainable economy and societal decay that is exactly the same as what can be seen in the west today.
Parker Gonzalez
>Egypt and Syria was Byzantine States.
Egypt was conquered by the Arabs in 6th century. Damn shame.
Charles Morales
desu some old sandniggers are pretty based
Jeremiah Thompson
Youre thinking of the catholic church. They most certain,y are not christians since many of their teachings actually contradict the bible. Theres a reason they kept people in the dark to a certain extent. They would get pissed if they knew the papacy was a brothel and that excommunication was BS. The bible actually warns us against being ignorant and stupid for this reason.
Juan Young
>science has declined in the Roman Empire Yeah it's not like the Byzantines had fucking flamethrowers or anything
People don't have faith in anything now however. Not in our politicians, not a belief that our scientific achievements will actually improve their daily condition... beyond the next iphone and job redundancy due to automation.
Sebastian Allen
>so why should we let Christcucks send us back to the Dark period?
When someone has a painful, bloody urination do the go to a doctor or a church?
SCIENCE WORKS!
And that's why religious despise it.
Josiah Barnes
You are dumb. That's why Europe was fucked up. Roman Pyromaniacs with suicidal thoughts was well known. The latest was Mussolini who declare war to Greece.
Leo Hill
lmao
Julian Clark
Einstein doesn't sound very Christian
Chase Jenkins
Europe has always been a harsh violent shithole with or without religion. The strong will survive.
Jonathan Cruz
Sandnigger please, see pic related
Wyatt Turner
>western europe crumbling, many countries will be non-ethnic in less than 20 years >all of this because people became weak and opened themselves to multeecultee looks like it
Grayson Smith
Hes jewish. And he never discovered anything, he just took the credit for other scientists work and only made the most dangerous and devastating discovery man has ever known: nuclear weapons. Tesla on the other jand was a godfearing christian, same with edison, and they made countless great discoveries that enriched the lives of everyone to this very day.
Kevin Murphy
damn that was one good looking lady. Was she ethnically Greek or Egyptian? Want to know whether she belongs in my we wuz folder or my anti-nordicism folder
Cameron Jackson
And BTW the islamic "golden age" is a myth, all they did was steal or "translate" as they say, roman and greek books
That's all, they are fucking translators, thats the most they did
Noah Lee
That happened because of post ww2 guilt. Before then they would have slain them all.
Eli Walker
Wow, Muslims think Christianity sucks and they spread lies to Christians about their own culture. Praise Allah
Anthony Lopez
>Sweden >UK >France >having WW2 guilt
Jaxon Bailey
>Europe has always been a harsh violent shithole with or without religion. The strong will survive.
Pay respect now to your President European subhuman.
Jason Torres
your thinking of the earlier Sassanid Invasion.
The eastern Roman empire recaptured it from the sassanids.The Arab invasion occurred after this
The jews pretty much used it to cuck the world. Even though america stopped the "holocaust" the jews use it to keep us from persecuting niggers and mudslimes.
Ian Sanders
White people dude. White people.
Brody Russell
Islam is the most vile thing on earth second only to judaism. It must be destroyed
Justin King
WE WUZ VIKANGZ N SHEEEIT
Blake Johnson
They got their knowledge from expansion though and when that ended so did the "Islamic Golden Age". Islam has always been anti-science but as they conquered Persians, Greeks, Egyptians and various Levenant peoples, they claimed their science and technology as their own but as these people slowly become authentically Islamic then so did all the technological and philosophical advances stop.
Bentley Morgan
>europe is turning pagan again
David Wright
Egypt had been conquered just a decade before by the Persian Empire under Khosrau II (616–629 AD); however, Emperor Heraclius re-captured it after a series of campaigns against the Sassanid Persians, only to lose it to the Muslim Rashidun army ten years later. Before the Muslim conquest of Egypt had begun, the Byzantines had already lost the Levant and its Arab ally, the Ghassanid Kingdom, to the Muslims. All of this left the Byzantine Empire dangerously exposed and vulnerable.
As you can see we had a lot of armies to fight. Including you dumb dumb.
Charles Rivera
only those weak got cucked just look at V4 or southern Europe traditionalist and close to their heritage and nation as fuck
if the jews can pull it off, then hats off to them they have no reason to not strive for global dominance might is right
all three cancerous religions are abrahamic reli med mi tink
Ian Morris
It's real
Isaiah Nguyen
The "ironic" part is you're too ignorant to know that until their invasion at the hands of the Mongols three centuries later, the Islamic world was a far more balanced society that allowed for the creation of universities and encouraged learning and discovery. After the mongols wiped out their civilization, the remnants were squashed under the Ottomans and then the West. What was left is what we have now.
Joseph Williams
I hate sceince
Mason Flores
she was Romano Egyptian but ethnically she was probably mixed Egyptian-Greek.
Lincoln Foster
What is the battle of manzikert?
Henry Sanders
The Great Library is a meme, as is its burning. Almost no evidence exists that it was burned any of the three times it's been claimed to have happened, and in no later texts is it mentioned as a center of learning. Odds are it simply wasn't maintained or updated for long after being built.
Adam Walker
99.9% of the worlds technology, meaningful culture, prosperous nations, and noble laws originate from white men, either under christianity or not
dont even dignify this jew shit by thinking about it
they wouldn't attempt to convince you if they had any credibility
Bentley Anderson
Damn Greek knows history. Just not economics.
Jack Nelson
>doesn't know how science works He didn't take credit dumb ass, he put together some existing discoveries and ideas in a way that nobody had done before and built an entirely new part of physics.
Bentley Wright
Islamic high civilisation was ruined when its' core was ravaged by the Mongol Invasion. Christcuckery for the Greaco-Romans was equally devastating.
James Gonzalez
>Including you dumb dumb.
what the hell did we do?
The Romano Britons were getting their shit kicked in at the same time.The eastern roman empire only gave up on reclaiming the province in the 6th century having spent over a 100years refusing requests for aid and requests for the return of the legions.
Hunter Gray
>They got their knowledge from expansion though and when that ended so did the "Islamic Golden Age".
Islam is not a person, its a religion. Like all the armies, they used the technology and the people who convert, but later when the Caliphate created that thing changed and people was forced to obey only the god. Liberty gone.
Juan Jenkins
>Thrived ? ya sure about that? why isnt it thriving today? >Christianity killed european culture Yes it wasn't the conquring the of the middle east and africa by muslims who raided and stoped trading with Europeans >chrstianity killed europe yeah it wasn't christianity and romananized germanic christian people that moved trade from the mediterranian to central europe and north sea. TOTALLY IT"S CHRSITNAITY FAULT who kept records, translations and bascily keep the whole admistrative system from colapsing TOTALLY CHRISIANITY WAS THE REASON EUROPEANS COULDNT GET PAPER FROM EGYPT IT WASNT THAT EGYPT WAS CONQURED BY MUSLIMS
I know it were those peskey xenofobic christians that invaded the Islamic world time and times againta often times invading with 300.000 men while the poor muslims bravely defending their lands with only a handful of 1.000-10.000 men It was christianity fault for not wanting to trade with asian nations via the slik road that was TOTALLY not under Muslims control.
but still this doesn't explain why Muslims countries today ended up like pieces of shit while barbarbic shitty christian european nations bascily took over the whole world
Must have been all that "destruction due to adopting christinatity"
name one Islamic person who dared to questions his faith and put a man in space and on the moon.
while i can name plently of Christians who were devot believers in god and the universe that dared to question the nature of the universe to understand so that we MAY put a fucking man on the moon and also in space.
William Ward
>What is the battle of manzikert?
Turks are not Arabs.
Lincoln Wood
There is no science in the Islamic world. Islamists do not believe in cause and effect. The islamists believe that Allah is not bound by such trivial things. All is the will of Allah in their minds. You cannot develop scientific theories without cause and effect.
Leo Sanders
It wasn't Christianity, it was women.
Thomas Collins
>And BTW the islamic "golden age" is a myth, all they did was steal or "translate" as they say, roman and greek books Gosh, what a brainlet. They basically created modern math (completely) and medicine, did a shitton in Astronomy and a shitton all around.
Also implying sheltering knowledge and scholars from chimping out christcucks isn't a tremendous service in itself.
Levi Turner
Nonetheless his discoveries have only made our lives miserable. Fear of nuclear war, the most toxic substances imaginable being leaked into our environment. Edison invented the first music player.
Levi James
>Romano Egyptian
>Byzantium >Rome
>151739007 >Damn Greek knows history. Just not economics.
>Europe advanced even more when people stopped giving a damn about faith. So today? Atheist Europe is shit, just look around you
Gavin Ramirez
Only muslims get away with claiming the scientific advancements of the people that happened to be under their religion.
No matter what flag is flying its the people that came up with it, not the religion.
Logan Carter
Yes beause science and faith should never ever intersect guess all those christian scientists and natural philosophers who founded the Royal Society must have been utter retards right? Neck yourself brainlet.
Chase Peterson
>151739007 >Damn Greek knows history. Just not economics.
No stop claiming that it was "islamic", it was Arabic. The religious zealots of islam did nothing to propagate science, everything people claim the catholics did they did 10x worse.
The painting pre dates Diocletian's tetrarchy.The eastern Roman empire didn't exist as a political force in her time she would have just thought of herself as Romani
Windston Churchill said the same thing though, that science protected Europe from ending up like Rome.
Adam Hill
if sceince is so good why sceintist not become leader?
Nathan Johnson
>Christians are behind the fall of technology >lets' just ignore that the fall of massive empires is behind that and that the east Roman empire actually was superior in technology long after the fall of the western empire >pretend that the cut to the eastern trade routes to the Indian Ocean didn't play a role (which was caused by Muslims and is the reason why we Europeans searched for an alternative for this route even 1000 years after that event) >furthermore ignore the crisis and plagues of the 6th century that the Sassanids and eastern Romans had to face (also never mind the crisis of the 5th century)
Let me guess you don't even know that the past Imperial Romanization of west Europe was caused by Christianity? Without that you would still live in straw huts my fellow snow nigger.
With your logic in mind the Sassanid Empire and the past Imperial Germanic kingdoms would have not fallen to the Muslims.
Xavier Green
The Mohammadens were directly responsible for the destruction of classical civilization. It were not for muzzies, we would still have all the classical works and not some. The largest library in the world was in India. It was sacked and burned by Muslim invaders. When asked what they should do with all the books, the caliph replied "If it is not in the Koran, burn it. If it is in the Koran, we don't need it. Burn it." And then fucking muzzie scum claim to be the enlightened ones.
Zachary Cooper
>she was Romano Egyptian but ethnically she was probably mixed Egyptian-Greek.
Being Roman wasn't ethnic in the empire ,Greek was
Connor Foster
This man gets it.
Brody Gray
There is your actual reason why the east block fell to the Arabs. Combine that with war exhaustion between two big empires and you get two ship wrecks that wait to be conquered by some Arabian war lords.
The Plague of Justinian (541–542) was a pandemic that afflicted the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, especially its capital Constantinople, the Sassanid Empire, and port cities around the entire Mediterranean Sea. One of the deadliest plagues in history, this devastating pandemic resulted in the deaths of an estimated *25 million* (at the time of the initial outbreak that was at least 13% of the world's population) to 50 million people (in two centuries of recurrence)
David Hughes
>Being Roman wasn't ethnic in the empire
The word race comes from the latin razza.
Julian Barnes
What do you have to say about the Jews?
Dylan Ward
Romans was the first who categorize the people from the skin color. That's how"racism" was born.
Jacob Howard
The Greek and Egyptian racial system was inhered from the earlier Greek ptolemaic egypt.
Being Roman only required citizenship.
Josiah Stewart
>Being Roman only required citizenship.
Or Greek background from a Greek city. The Greeks who living in Egypt had less rights, while the Greeks who living in Greece had the same rights with the Romans.
Luis Gutierrez
The Edict of Caracalla in AD 212 sorted that
Connor Cooper
religion is important as a population control tool in a massive scale.
can you imagine 8 billion nihilistic people trying to get along in our crowded, competitive society?
Jonathan Nguyen
>muh dark ages
Literally renaissance era propaganda, no serious scholar takes the claim of the dark ages seriously.
Evan Torres
Yeah and where the Byzantines now?
They were destroyed thanks to the Crusades
Jason Evans
>backraped
ftfy
Mason Barnes
>Europe flourished when people took some powers from the Church
things aren't that simple. the renaissance in italy was protected by the church. some fanatics even rose up to destroy the renaissance and they were executed by the pope.
Carson Cruz
Yeah and where are the (insert almost every kingdom here) now?
