Globalism

ITT: We Discuss globalism.

You will tell me why you think it sucks and I will explain why you're wrong.

Globalism is single handedly responsible for the quality of life that we enjoy in the west today. Every single country participates in the global economy (except Cuba and NK) and is better off as a result.

Globalism is the way forward for the human race.

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independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-more-likely-to-be-unemployed-than-any-other-social-group-in-the-uk-mps-warn-a7185451.html
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vice.com/en_us/article/8qq43g/millennials-are-way-poorer-than-boomers-ever-were
businessinsider.com/americans-are-more-indebted-than-ever-raising-economic-risks-2017-10
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Debate me fag

Explain why you think globalism is bad.

What you're describing is actually Globalization.

Globalism is an ideology aimed at establishing a one world government and turning 99% of mankind into neoserfs

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>You will tell me why you think it sucks and I will explain why you're wrong
kys

>r/neoliberal attempts yet another impotent Sup Forums beachhead
good luck. i really mean it, you guys always hit the ground so hard outside your hugbox i'd be surprised if you didn't get road rash IRL from it somehow. i feel bad for you.

also misato is my slut.

According to Google, the mainstream definition of the word is "the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis."

I guess that's just Jewish lies though right?

Okay so tell me why globalism is bad then.

Globalism - The day criminals discovered it's easier to own the bank than rob it

You sure showed those dumb stormfags haha, so witty. Feels good being smarter than them *brofist*

Globalism under historical regimes have been good. Globalism under Western Elites has been an unmitigated disaster. Prepare for Civil War, Nigel, as the Islamist fifth column plunges Western Europe into a Dark Age.

By the way, in case you were wondering, those Rapefugees aren't going to fund your pension program. Ever.

The current Globalist model relies on imperfect men maintaining and not corrupting a "perfect system." Globalism will fail because, at some point, it will be perverted and used to enslave the world.
>pic related

Misato is shit.
Asuka is best girl

>Globalism is the way forward for the human race.
it isn't.

>the Islamist fifth column plunges Western Europe into a Dark Age
Do you honestly believe that Islamists can conquer western Europe? They can't even conquer Syria.

>those Rapefugees aren't going to fund your pension program
Are you conflating refugees with immigrants again?

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I wasn't kidding or being ironic

ah what the heck

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Replace the world "globalisation" with "capitalism" and nothing changes.

Are you anti-capitalism?

Look at how the Anglo-Saxons conquered Britain. They were a fifth-column too that inevitably displaced the Britons due to Celtic cuckoldry.

Also. If Globalists had two brain cells, (which they don't, they have only plattitudes,) they'd realize that immigration from EU members=good, immigration from the Third World=Bad. Merkel honestly though that Syrian refugees would make Europe rich, which is as about as hilariously bad of a decision as starting the Great War.

If I were you, I'd prepare for the inevitable conflict when Islam demands Jihad. Because if they come out on top, then Western Europe will be as much of a backwater as the Mid East is today.

>globalisation and capitalism are the same thing

troll thread move along lads

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How the fuck does anyone think this? Asuka is a dumb bitch and people who like her probably all hang out at r/neoliberal like this faggot.

Everything in that post is pure hyperbole.

Syrian refugees might not make Europe "rich" but they will undoubtedly benefit the economy in time.

The Islamists have already demanded Jihad. There are millions of muslims already living in Europe. If all those muslims listened to the Islanists we'd have terrorist attacks every hour of every day. It would be a total bloodbath. It turns out most people just want to make a better life for themselves rather than follow some fucked up religious ideology.

That's not what I said.

I said that in that sentence the words were interchangeable.

Also the whole anti globalisation/WTO sentiment is a socialist/far-left thing. Are you a socialist?

>Syrian refugees might not make Europe "rich" but they will undoubtedly benefit the economy in time.

Top fucking kek. Neoliberals love to claim they are about 'numbers' but when you put the 'numbers' in front of them, they run away like children because it wasn't 'numbers' that brought people to Neoliberalism in the first place.

Second of all, you really are naive to think that without the massive surveillance state placed in front of society, that the West wouldn't devolve into utter Balkans-style chaos. But the surveillance state can only keep a lid down on things for so long, because as the Islamists continue to populate it'll be harder and harder to 'control' them until they decide to take control for themselves.

Globalist naivity will be despised for a thousand years and people will look back on this era the same way we look back on Maoism.

>I said that in that sentence the words were interchangeable.

which is inferring they are the same thing

OP is, as always, a faggot.

>thinks Asuka is a dumb bitch
>likes useless Misato

Okay then, do you have numbers that demonstrate that immigration is harmful to the economy because pretty much every study and academic paper that I've read has come to the opposite conclusion.

> you really are naive to think that without the massive surveillance state placed in front of society, that the West wouldn't devolve into utter Balkans-style chaos
I'd say you're paranoid. Even if you look at the number of foiled terrorist plots it's still a tiny number about a dozen a year in Britain. By your logic there should be dozens every single day.

>I'd say you're paranoid. Even if you look at the number of foiled terrorist plots it's still a tiny number about a dozen a year in Britain. By your logic there should be dozens every single day.

First off, put down the Harry Potter and learn some History. Here's what happened to a former-majority Christian nation when the Islamists couldn't be suppressed anymore.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

This is how it's going to play out in the West. At first, it'll be a low level fire. But as things get worse, and the ghettos grow, it'll lead to actual political organization and then serious shit. And pro-tip, Islamists won't be taking order from Masons/Neoliberals because why bother with being a useful idiot when you can have the throne? But this delusion is believed by many 'intelligent' people.

Also of course low-skill/low IQ immigrants are a net burden on the economy, because of the welfare state, dummy. Do you think the Romans gave their Gaullish Slaves free healthcare/political correctness when they imported them into society? If they did, they'd be broke! Globalists can't even manage low-skill labor correctly, something that has been done effectively by even primitive Mesopotamian societies for thousands of years.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821151/Non-EU-migrants-State-costing-British-finances-120billion-1995.html

It's just absolutely pathetic how these Globalists are. But then again, Europe will fall due to fiscal insolvency from southern europe, so in the end, there regime won't be around for too much longer there.

>life that we enjoy

Globalism keeps your country hostage to global depressions. Like really OP that was easy. You got BTFO. How will you ever recover?

Globalism takes half decent workers away from their home countries and puts them in a foreign nation just so they can be paid less than a natural born citizen. It puts everyone at a disadvantage. .

>Here's what happened to a former-majority Christian nation when the Islamists couldn't be suppressed anymore
So if it happened in one country it's going to happen everywhere?

>Also of course low-skill/low IQ immigrants are a net burden on the economy, because of the welfare state, dummy
Explain. Immigrants contribute more to the economy than they take out by almost every single metric.

>dailymail
How about you post a credible source instead of a tabloid newspaper.

Here's an academic paper on the topic:

sites.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/publications/journal/JEP1995.pdf

It basically contradicts everything you're saying.

Yeah because Cuba and North Korea are doing so well thanks to their refusal to participate in the global economy.

>It puts everyone at a disadvantage
It doesn't. Those workers choose to work in a foreign country. They don't have to. The company chooses to employ foreign workers. It doesn't have to either. It's good for both parties.

Of course the company chooses to hire a foreign worker because to them its cheaper to hire foreign. The foreign worker chooses to leave their homeland because they're promised higher wages than they would receive at home thus putting their homeland at an even greater economic disadvantage because the good workers all leave to go somewhere else. What part of that don't you understand? It's lose lose for everyone except the banks.

>So if it happened in one country it's going to happen everywhere?

young muslim population is becoming much more radicalized than the first generation immigrants. it's a time bomb unless whites remove them.

>Explain. Immigrants contribute more to the economy than they take out by almost every single metric.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-more-likely-to-be-unemployed-than-any-other-social-group-in-the-uk-mps-warn-a7185451.html

half of the muslims in our country are funded by the taxpayer. and this research has likely been fudged to distort reality.

>Yeah because Cuba and North Korea are doing so well thanks to their refusal to participate in the global economy.

they struggle because they're not hard working or intelligent enough to reach parity with the White man's West.

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>Of course the company chooses to hire a foreign worker because to them its cheaper to hire foreign.
So it's good for the company.

>The foreign worker chooses to leave their homeland because they're promised higher wages than they would receive at home
So it's good for the foreign worker.

>It's lose lose for everyone except the banks.
We've just established that it's good for both parties involved.

No nobody wins in that situation. The company is not a person. It doesn't have feelings.

What an awful year to quote a study from. Immigration in the 20th century =/= immigration in the 21st century. I'm sure you could find a study that somehow promotes 'open borders' but I'm sure you could find a study from the politburo that Communism works as well.

Let's do a cognitive experiment to determine whether immigrants contribute or take from the economy.

>Find the average income of a potential immigrant.
>Find the average cost of an immigrant from state programs.
>Pro-Tip: If the immigrant is making less than ~$30,000 a year in the States, he's a burden to the system rather than a benefit.

Of course, Globalists, if they were intelligent, could simply say, "Benefits for natives only" and then suddenly, the Far Right would disappear and the immigrates would actually pay into the economy. But we can't have Satanic Globalists have any kind of sense, can we?

Also. You need to understand that your inability to take the past seriously is part of the reason why we are in this mess to begin with. You know nothing of Islam, other than the politically correct Marxist trash that your Globalist overlords feed you, and so assume that there can be no danger because of it. It's fucking madness, user. But honestly, when a regime dies, it dies because of itself.

Don't bother with moral appeals when talking to a globalist. These people are reptilians in nature in that they seek to maximize their own personal position at the expense of everyone else. The problem is, Globalism doesn't even make sense from a self-interested perspective. As fucked up as it was, literal Slavery is far more rational than Globalist 'Open borders.'

Why are focusing so hard on muslims? We're talking about globalism here.

Do you think that muslims in Britain are more radical than muslims in the ME? I'd say that in general, most muslims in the west tend to be more liberal and secular than those in the middle east and they become more and more secular and liberal with each generation.

>they struggle because they're not hard working or intelligent enough to reach parity with the White man's West.
Don't east Asians have higher IQs than whites on average? That just doesn't add up. Those countries are fucked because they chose isolationism over globalism.

No to open borders. The white race deserves their own nation just like every other ethnicity

>most muslims in the west tend to be more liberal and secular than those in the middle east and they become more and more secular and liberal with each generation.

did you even read my post? traitors like you will be hanged

>I'd say that in general, most muslims in the west tend to be more liberal and secular than those in the middle east and they become more and more secular and liberal with each generation

But that's not how it works user. This isn't the 20th century but the 21st. Things are different. Also, criticizing East Asia is fucking laughable, considering China and SE Asia literally are growing twice as fast as EU nations.

The company is a group of people that employ more people and produce goods for even more people.

We're not in a mess at all. Things have never been better. Quality of life and purchasing power is higher than it's ever been.

We live in an unprecedented era of peace and prosperity yet for some reason the far-right thinks that everything is going to shit and that WW3 is around the corner. It's like arguing with Alex Jones.

Do you have any studies that demonstrate that immigrants cost the state more than they contribute? I can't seem to find one.

Also you're confusing capitalism with profiteering. Capitalism uses the superiority of the product or service it provides to set itself apart from other similar products or services in the market. Profiteering squeezes every nickel and dime it can out of hiring foreign and cutting wages to next to nothing to provide a less than desirable product or service complete with planned obsolescence in mind.

How do you think about the extreme tail risks that arise from greater global integration of people and information? Humanity is much more exposed to pandemic disease risk due to commercial air travel, for example.

Okay you're clearly a nutcase. No point in discussing this any further with you. You also clearly don't understand how polling works.

If you asked white Brits if bombing innocent civilians can sometimes be justified you'd probably get similar results.

That seems to be the trend though. Westerners are more liberal and secular than the middle East. As people become more educated and financially empowered they tend to shy away from radical religious ideologies. This trend can be seen all over the world.

>Do you have any studies that demonstrate that immigrants cost the state more than they contribute? I can't seem to find one.

If I posted it, it wouldn't matter, because anything outside of the politburo is considered 'fake news.' So at this point, your delusions are very strong.

>We're not in a mess at all. Things have never been better. Quality of life and purchasing power is higher than it's ever been.

I'm a trust fund kid, and even I don't have my head far enough up my ass to know that things are about to go to shit. People have never been as pessimistic since East Europe during the fall of Communism. Economic growth is anemic at best, and record debt is literally choking away economic growth. If you want to spout bullshit on Sup Forums, go ahead, but nobody buys into that nonsense.

Why do you post Fukuyama? Fukuyama himself renounced his own thesis on Liberal Globalism because of the changing natures of the times.

Yes, and the Five Year Plan is going to make everything better. But this isn't clearly happening, and like a leper, you refuse to acknowledge that your limbs are falling off.

I think that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

Are there drawbacks to globalism? Sure. You could argue that the spread of disease is one of them, but the economic advantages bestowed on BILLIONS of people far outweigh the cons.

>If I posted it, it wouldn't matter, because anything outside of the politburo is considered 'fake news.' So at this point, your delusions are very strong.
I mean if you post an actual academic study and not a article from the DM or Breitbart I might take it a bit more seriously.

>I'm a trust fund kid, and even I don't have my head far enough up my ass to know that things are about to go to shit. People have never been as pessimistic since East Europe during the fall of Communism. Economic growth is anemic at best, and record debt is literally choking away economic growth. If you want to spout bullshit on Sup Forums, go ahead, but nobody buys into that nonsense.
This is just gaslighting. Poverty across the world is dimishing and living standards are rising. There are no major wars only small and isolated regional conflicts. Where are you seeing all this doom and gloom? Your "feeling" that "things are about to go to shit"?

Also, besides globalism putting every country that it takes workers from at an economic disadvantage, it wants to keep the developing world stunted so that they never work their way out of the gutter so they always have a constant stream of third world ears who are desperate to leave their destitute countries.

So if a big western company decides to set up a call centre in India that harms the Indian economy?

>Poverty across the world is dimishing and living standards are rising

In places like China or Vietnam user, which has State-Owned Enterprises and protectionist policies. Meanwhile, the youth of the West will be poorer than their parents. But as a Globalist, I can see how you wouldn't care about such a thing.

Do you know how leprosy kills a person user? The disease removes a person's ability to feel pain. When he loses the ability to feel pain, he cannot take care of himself anymore, and thus his body literally rots from his lack of ability to feel pain. Your entire argument is like that of a leper, who ignores the clear rot of his civilization in favor of the delusion of his wealthy masters who believe that prosperity is just around the corner.

But I have another prediction. Because Globalism failed to resolve the debt and demographic crisis, when When the sovereign debt crisis actually hits the West, it'll be an end for this regime, just like a Leper dies when he suffers from infection.

You are literally talking to a reptile, user. This kind of logic doesn't work on them. You have to talk in a very specific language with very specific appeals in order for them to understand their flaws.

Why would a western company want to set up a call center India other than to provide a worse service to its customers?

>the youth of the West will be poorer than their parents
I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but do you have a source for this claim? What metric are you using to measure this?

You're a trust fund kid right? You can you possibly end up worse off than your parents?

>Do you know how leprosy kills a person user? The disease removes a person's ability to feel pain. When he loses the ability to feel pain, he cannot take care of himself anymore, and thus his body literally rots from his lack of ability to feel pain. Your entire argument is like that of a leper, who ignores the clear rot of his civilization in favor of the delusion of his wealthy masters who believe that prosperity is just around the corner.
You're good at making abstract analogies but not at providing evidence to back up your claims. Where is the evidence that the world is heading for disaster. Show me some credible literature please not sensational articles from Breibart.

As for the reptilian comments let me say that not all of us are fortunate enough to have wealthy parents that pay for everything. It's very easy for a trust fund kid like you to deny the benefits of globalism when in reality billions of people have been lifted out of abject poverty as a result. But we don't care about those fucking subhuman brown people amirite?

Because it's cheaper.

Is that a real question? I thought you needed to be 18 to post here...

I just wanted you to admit that your concern is with profiteering rather than capitalism. You don't care about what you provide be it good or bad (in this case bad) as long as you get paid for it

GOTEEM

"Settle all controversies"

>Where is the evidence that the world is heading for disaster. Show me some credible literature please not sensational articles from Breibart.

vice.com/en_us/article/8qq43g/millennials-are-way-poorer-than-boomers-ever-were

businessinsider.com/americans-are-more-indebted-than-ever-raising-economic-risks-2017-10

Right there, the (western) world is in record debt and standard of living is falling. What the fuck do you want user? Nuclear war?

Furthermore, it's kind of ironic that a Globalist lectures me for lacking compassion, when most Globalists entrap the third world in debt. And I'm sorry to say, but I don't have the "White Man's Burden" because people can only save themselves, they cannot be saved by others.

Of course that's the case, but he can't admit it. Again, you have to reason with them in a very particular way.

Bitch, go watch Wall-E, even Jew-run Disney knows that globalism will destroy the earth.

The """""quality of life""""" you describe is a falsehood, we aren't progressing as a species anymore, we're complacent to have the newest iphone or newest car that barely improves over the last model.

ITT

Why do you think people buy Chinese products? They know that local products are probably of a higher quality but the Chinese are cheaper.

It's like asking why would anyone drive a Ford when you can drive a Ferrari.

Of course cost matters you dummy. It matters to companies just like it matters to consumers. If you think that a company with an Indian call centre won't give you the service you're looking for then you can take your business elsewhere. I feel like I'm arguing with a 5 year old.

ahha literally BTFO

>Right there, the (western) world is in record debt and standard of living is falling. What the fuck do you want user? Nuclear war?
I don't want to sound condescending but I don't think you really understand how debt works. Our entire economy is built on debt. Without debt we would never enjoy the standard of living that we do today.

Are some people living beyond their means? Sure. The crash of 2008 proved that and there may be another crash around the corner. Who knows? Does that mean we're all going back to the stone age or the gold standard? No way.

>Furthermore, it's kind of ironic that a Globalist lectures me for lacking compassion, when most Globalists entrap the third world in debt. And I'm sorry to say, but I don't have the "White Man's Burden" because people can only save themselves, they cannot be saved by others.
I'm not trying to use compassion as an argument. I'm trying to be pragmatic here. Globalism is inarguably economically beneficial to almost everyone.

If you want to admit that the whole point is to lure the unsuspecting public into a bad deal with a cheap price it's fine with me. You'll be eternally looking for that next scam to sneak in hoping that the public bites after they wise up to your current scams which isn't going to be always in your favor. Also comparing a Ford and a Ferrari is a horrible analogy.

>discuss globalism
>tell me why you think it suck
Earth is not a globe newfag. Sup Forumstards should know this by now.

Misato is my milky mommy. Asuka can't even produce milk probably, her dry disgusting udders are good for nothing.

>bad deal with a cheap price
Why is it a bad deal? You get a Ford for the price of a Ford and a Ferrari for the price of a Ferrari.

You want a Ferarri for the price of Ford. That's just not realistic.

You wanna fight gloablism? Make sure you only buy local goods from local companies that only employ local people and only do business locally. You better be prepared to pay more though.

>I'm not trying to use compassion as an argument. I'm trying to be pragmatic here. Globalism is inarguably economically beneficial to almost everyone.

No fucking shit. I understand exactly where you are coming from. The problem is, even 'pragmatically' Globalism makes us unsafe with its Open Borders and fails to generate economic growth and resolve the demographic and debt crisis. This will become more apparent in Europe than America, because Europe will fall first.

>Our entire economy is built on debt. Without debt we would never enjoy the standard of living that we do today.

I know that debt has a function, user, but debt can also be a problem. If Debt is paid off, things work out, but if it isn't, things don't work out. Immigration was supposed to solve the debt crisis for sovereign states, but utterally failed to do so and only made things worse. Now, to the Globalists who actually issue out the debt, maybe it works out for them because the government will move heaven and earth to protect them, so they have moral hazard. But for the actual system, no, Globalism is fucking awful, and the massive increases in debt is the catalyst which kills the patient, so to speak.

Do you think China is globalist user?

Globalism first off, is a premise that the elite have tried to force us into by open borders and flooding 3rd world immigrants degenerates street shitters to destroy modern civilized countries and cultures. Thanks jews.
2nd; Anytime i hear the world Globe makes me want to upchuck!!!!
Their mind control and Trying to reinforce we live on globe or fukin Ball!!!

Do you not see this on every level from tv commercials to every media angle.
Its all false and Fake and they are no desperate to keep the globe in front of us when more are waking up daily

This is your red pill today!
The real map of our world! Where is antartica?!!!

To be honest, Asuka is best girl. She's also a great example of globalism working. A German girl who comes to Japan to pilot Eva.

>This will become more apparent in Europe than America, because Europe will fall first.
Again with the grandiose claims and zero facts or figures to back it up.

Care to explain how gloablism increases our debt or how immigration doesn't generate wealth because, again, everything I've read demonstrates the opposite.

yes the Kalergi plan is so wonderful my dear goy, we need a one world government where no race, religion or culture exists. just one big happy family

I'm of the opinion that a Ford is a way better deal for the money. A Ferrari is just a toy for someone with more money than sense. The cost of upkeep and maintenance on a Ferrari will surpass the entire price of the Ford.

They participate in the global economy, yes.

I agree! You see what I mean now? Cheaper doesn't necessarily mean worse.

Maybe a company that opened a call centre in India can now offer its products or services at more competitive rates thereby benefitting local consumers.

>lose argument
>"you're a nutcase"

open and shit case, faggot. enjoy the gallows.

>To be honest, Asuka is best girl. She's also a great example of globalism working. A German girl who comes to Japan to pilot Eva.

This is such fucking cringe, jesus christ.

....That's the best half-ass answer you got.

>No open borders.
>No public banks.
>State owned enterprises.
>High tariffs.
>Will be the world's largest economy in the 21st century.

Sounds like 'globalism' to me.

Regardless. We've reached a circle in our arguments but the proof will be in the pudding. Sometime in the future, though I don't exactly know when, the debt troubles of the EU will be too large to bear, and the banks owning the state debt will be effectively fucked. Globalism was supposed to provide tax payers, instead it gave welfare-takers. But then again, we both know that you are only here because you have a boss that's forcing you to shill on Sup Forums, so in a way, I was never counting on reaching you in the first place. But to the people who have a brain, understand that this economy wasn't the economy that was promised, and when shit hits the fan, the Globalists won't be able to afford you anymore.

I already said that was a horrible example because the cheap ford's are already made at home already while Ferrari is an import. Also your call center example doesn't take the drop in service into account. Who cares how cheap it is if no one wants to use it?

>Globalism is single handedly responsible for the quality of life that we enjoy in the west today
Which is exactly why it's bad
This """quality""" of life has turned most of our men into pussies and most of our women into whores.
It has killed all in-depth discussion when it comes to philosophy and theology.
It has killed art, replacing it with a dull, ugly form of """art"""
It is decadent in it's core

Because a world-wide government is what satan wants

You're confusing globalization with globalism.

>This is such fucking cringe, jesus christ.
Your "arguments" are such fucking cringe.

>the proof will be in the pudding. Sometime in the future, though I don't exactly know when, the debt troubles of the EU will be too large to bear, and the banks owning the state debt will be effectively fucked. Globalism was supposed to provide tax payers, instead it gave welfare-takers
So now your "argument" reverts to "you'll see..."

I'd say it's pretty safe to say we've reached an impasse. I'll continue living my life enjoying the benefits of gloablism.

> we both know that you are only here because you have a boss that's forcing you to shill on Sup Forums

If you genuinely believe this then you're as dumb as the "muh Jews" Alex Jones type conspiritards. I thought you were a bit brighter than that.

How often do you use a company's customer care hotline? When you buy a product do you ask them "where is your call centre located"?

You don't give a shit about any of that. You look at the price of the product and compare it to the prices of similar products.

We need both globalization and localization. This is possible because they're not mutually exclusive.

>So now your "argument" reverts to "you'll see..."

When you can't understand your operator over the phone you immediately know they are outsourced to some foreign country.

Care to elaborate here? What's the distinction?

Isn't that what we already have? You can buy local products if you want.

IDGI. Is that some other vague analogy?

Probably, but again, why do you care? If I'm buying a barbecue do I really give a shit what country the call centre is in?

That said, there are companies that advertise the fact that they have local call centres so, as a consumer, you're free to choose to do business with them instead.

You can't stop globalism, it's inevitable when you can get someone from Australia to think the same as someone from Cuba at the same time at the tap of a button. Jews are shilling so hard you can't stop it and soon our NWO will be upon us.
Idiots who disagree with globalisation need to Kys. Historically closing your country off of trade, immigration and promoting nationalism ruins it. Look at master race East Asia. Qing dynasty took the greatest nation on earth and turned it into britains bitch.

Do you even hear what you sound like? You're supposed to be selling me this globalism idea and then you turn around and tell me what I should and shouldn't give a shit about. Not exactly making a the best case for yourself.

I'm asking you a question. Do you really care where a product is made or where the customer service centre is located?

If you did then you would only buy local goods.

Maybe you do, but it seems that the vast majority of people don't care. They care about the price though. I'm willing to bet that 80-90% of what you own is made in China including the computer/phone that you're posting on.

Tell me again how globalism hasn't benefitted you.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, identity-less, subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and to discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the past and present in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Why people are afraid of the facts about the Jews:
>youtube.com/watch?v=-iU9kf2EHJw

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

White Genocide is real - In their own words
>liveleak.com/view?i=aec_1508296335

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8
>youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

Yeah and the customer service that didn't outsource will have better reviews which results in better customer base and the best thing for companies which is repeat customers.

>Are you conflating refugees with immigrants again?
H's right when he uses the two terms interchangeably. It's been well stated, even by public figures of the EU, that the majority of "refugees" are economic migrants leaving war-torn nations and not directly fleeing for safety.
"Economic Refugees" they call them.

>What's the distinction?

theglobalist.com/globalism-versus-globalization/

>Yeah and the customer service that didn't outsource will have better reviews which results in better customer base and the best thing for companies which is repeat customers.
Okay so what's the problem?

If you think people would rather do business with a company with a local call centre then the ones that outsource to India will quickly loser customers and decide that outsourcing is a bad idea.

That doesn't seem to be happening in reality though because, like I said, most people don't really give a fuck. They only really look at the price. That's why budget airlines like Ryanair and Easyjet are so popular in Europe.

Tell me again how you think having our goods made outside the country and then sold back to us is benefitting us?

>asian

why do brits keep saying this? They are filthy fucking arabs, not related at all to the beautfiul asian cultures of japan and korea

Regardless of whether or not that's true, refugees from the recent crisis account for a tiny minority of total immigrants to Britain.

fullfact.org/immigration/uk-refugees/

Thanks, I'll take a look at it.

Because they're cheaper! How many times do I have to explain this? Do you want to pay $5000 dollars for a phone?

Why do you think computers and phones are so cheap these days? It's because they're made cheaply overseas.

Because Pakistan is in Asia, not the Middle-East.

reply to >Because Pakistan is in Asia, not the Middle-East.
I hope you realize the Middle-East is in Asia

From Google:

>"The Middle East is a geographical and cultural region located primarily in western Asia, but also in parts of northern Africa and southeastern Europe. The western border of the Middle East is defined by the Mediterranean Sea, where Israel, Lebanon, and Syria rest opposite from Greece and Italy in Europe."

Pakistanis are not Arabs. An Arab will get very offended if you mistake him for a Pakistani.