Brexit - stopping the madness edition

Ok, Brits, you had your fun and made your point. Now stop this nonsense. Nobody ever thought you seriously wanted to leave anyway. Have a second ref and vote to remain. It is best for you, for us, for everyone. And forget the EU army, that is just a collaboration bureaucracy anyway, all states retain full control over their militaries. Also, the war is long over yet we must not forget the reasons why so many sacrificed so much in the cause of freedom. The cost of wearing the uniform can be high, but... sometimes it is too high.

Where will that money go?

Just stop paying EuroTax and don't change anything else wtf are they gonna to, start a war and lose again?

It would be a bad idea to go against the vote.
50 billion is nothing compared to the cost of cleaning up a nationwide riot

They have to leave. If they don't, it shows they are truly not a democracy.

lol
you won't do shit
just like us

Didn't read, would vote to leave again.

Get fucked smelly Kraut

>It would be a bad idea to go against the vote.
Did you vote to leave the EU by 70% or 52%? Do you think some of the folks who voted for Brexit just wanted to keep refugees, Poles and the EU army out?

LOL WHAT IF THEY COUNTER THE PUTIN TROLL AND VOTE TO REMAIN BECAUSE FARAGE IS A DUMB FAGGOT WHO MOVED TO AMERICA FOR A REASON

>reads some shit in a newspaper largely regarded as emergency toilet paper
>believes it

We aren't paying shit, get over it, we dont want to be part of the fourth reich thanks, we never wanted it from day one.
Nobody has changed their mind, out means out.
We need rid of this cunt to get things going though, she is in it to screw us.

>They have to leave. If they don't, it shows they are truly not a democracy.

Bullshit. When has America ever had a referendum? Trump left TPP... no referendum. Trump stopped TTIP... no referendum. Trump leaves UNESCO, who cares about the people and a referendum.

Democracy is overrated anyway. Brits are a monarchy for a reason.

>German
>G-GET BACK INTO THE FUCKING UNION ALREADY

>Sadiq Khan speaks for the whole of the UK
nice try Gunter
worry about your own shithole, we will take care of business here.

Sadiq Khan got more votes in London than UKIP in the whole country.

LET THAT SINK IN.

Those aren't good examples. We didn't vote for TPP, etc. in the first place, so it's not "reversing a vote" to leave them.

Why are you so emotional about this?

So the Fourth Reich will be run by committee.. It was a bad idea then as now.. Where will you get your fuel? Russia? US?.. Catholics and Protestants? Don't make me laugh.. Britain will suffer as before, and we will bail her out same as last two times.. Once again, Europe will lay itself to waste and to Russia, this time, will go the spoils.
You should ditch the PIGS and Northern Europe should work and trade bilaterally with Britain and Scotland. US? We will wait and see how you behave.

How about a vote to just not pay the Eurofuckers a single dime? Tell them to fuck off and just leave. No need to even wait, declare fucking independence effective immediately. Ditch their laws/regulations and tell them to shove the bill where the sun don't shine.

I am not emotional. So tell me when the US had the people decide anything ever?

Britain is leaving and it is shit for them and shit for us. Why did they not try to reform the EU? They only bitched about "uhh, the EU isn't relocating more Syrians" (yes, that happened in 2014 and early 2015) and "uhhh, freedom of movement, why are all the Poles coming".

Niggers and Muslims aren't people

The sooner we bring in IQ testing for voting, the better

Go back under German boot!

Schneller! Schneller!

>50bil divorce settlement
>majority agree EU fucked over UK
>Brits demand another referendum to stay

The entire west has battered housewives syndrome

>How about a vote to just not pay the Eurofuckers a single dime?

You sound like the redneck who lets is car being checked out. The mechanics says "you need to really replace the breaks and that costs 400 bucks". The redneck says "no way, you swindler!" A day later his breaks fail and the whole car is totalled, but AT LEAST HE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BREAKS!.

...

He's a Mayor not a party leader dummy
Congratulations on being a retard on your failed false logic.
Listen very closely, you need us, we don't need you!
Proof? The endless attempts to screw us out of our democratic vote.
I cant wait for you cucks to fall to ISIS, and you will.

>Schneller! Schneller!
then Kuuubelwogen absprengn! Wooo iiiieest Jones?

>So tell me when the US had the people decide anything ever?
We elect our representatives (president, senators, etc.). Some states do referendums on specific issues, but I don't think we ever do that on a national level.

To reverse Brexit would be analogous to having another presidential election a couple weeks after we elected Trump, a do over.

>We elect our representatives (president, senators, etc.).
so does the UK.

>Some states do referendums on specific issues, but I don't think we ever do that on a national level.
That is typically the case int he UK as well.

>To reverse Brexit would be analogous to having another presidential election a couple weeks after we elected Trump, a do over.
Wrong, to ask people whether they want the negotiated deal or stay in the EU is just asking people ON THE BASIS OF THE FACTS what they want. REmember that in 2016 there were NO facts?

Sounds like someone is scared of losing our protection.
You afraid of us leaving you alone germany? Why would you be afraid?

The Commonwealth remains intact.. In fact Trump wants to join it in some capacity. Don't ever think you have Great Britain by the balls. You will see US both later when you auction off your last holdings to pay your war debts. the

Why can't Brits ever discuss things seriously?

I am not being confrontational here. Why can you not at least once just look at the issue and make a rational argument for or against Brexit? Forget emotion for one second, forget the war at least once and just tell us, how does Brexit make sense compared to reforming the EU from the inside?

Help us to convince France to create a good free trade block and forget this bs EU finance ministry and debt sharing (which we are 100% opposed to).

>in 2016 there were NO facts?
says you.
how ignorant for you to assume people just voted blindly, you're definitely a cuck lefty who has been spoonfed lies in the media.

>The Commonwealth remains intact..
In how far? Honestly, how? Not in terms of trading.

UK trade is 60% with the EU/EEA/Switzerland, 20% with the US and 20% with the rest of the world. And of those 20% rest of the world, the Commonwealth is less than half. And the EU has free trade deals with more than half of the rest of the world trade.

Maybe they have just seen enough loss of sovereignty to last a lifetime. Maybe they will settle this with pogroms, and retain the last shred of dignity they still possess. How can the EU be seen as anything but unappealing?

>Why can't Brits ever discuss things seriously?
We have nothing to discuss, you gobble up media lies and still have faith in globalists doing the right thing.
You never ever learn.

>how ignorant for you to assume people just voted blindly
Dude, are you kidding me? Nobody knew what the divorce bill was, nobody knew the issues of the Irish border, nobody knew what the post-Brexit trade situation was... fuck, not even the UK top government now knows what the post-Brexit trade situation will be AS OF TODAY.

Why don't you want to make an informed decision on Brexit? It is a bit like buying a used car. You essentially just saw a piece of paper with the model of the car and the mileage, but you didn't look at it. Now, why not drive a few miles in it and check it all out to really understand what the deal is?

Why do Euros want us to stay?
We are weird island people, you should be glad to be rid of us.

>more crying
get over it Hanz
we're gone, we know what we voted for, $350 million a week to prop up your shitty EU isn't in our interest, go away and leave us be.
Nobody has changed their mind, the 'divorce bill' is nothing but extortion, the Irish border argument is nothing new, post-Brexit trade deal is something for EU countries to worry about, not us, we are self sustainiable thanks.
You're like a fucking obsessed ex-wife who thinks she can still win us back, sorry, we're fucking the 18 year old blonde now, your haggered old wrinkly minge can be serviced by Mohammad when he drops your kebab off on a weekend.

>Ok, Brits, you had your fun and made your point. Now stop this nonsense.
why you talk like a delegate from brussels?

you certainly don't speak for me

>Maybe they have just seen enough loss of sovereignty to last a lifetime.
They agreed to every single transfer of power to Brussels in the last 40yrs. Even on normal laws, the UK has a 94% vote-yes in the EU Council record.

Saying now that this "loss of sovereignty" is somehow why they voted out is more than stupid. They voted to centralize certain issues for 40yrs!

Also, can you give a true example of problematic centralization? I actually think there are areas where pretty much everyone would say "28 parallel structures make no sense" but we still have no centralization. I work in capital markets, every single state even Luxembourg and Malta have their own bureaucratic capital markets authorities. What a fucking shitshow! The US has the SEC and that is that. State authorities have little to no say. But in Europe, some company on the stock exchange in London with some German shareholders will be supervised by the UK authority, but in certain respects also the German authorities... and then the Spanish ones etc. The red tape is fucked up. And then other companies will just circumvent tougher supervision by e.g. listing their bonds in Luxembourg where supervision is lax.

How does this make any sense? And then you have companies like Volkswagen defrauding the market with their diesel scandal and guess who has authority to prosectue them... of course the GERMAN AUTHORITIES! Guess what they do, ... nothing, because the politicians appoint the guy who leads the German authority.

>We have nothing to discuss
That is ridiculous. Why are you even here then?

There are things to discuss. The divorce bill can be discussed, a new referendum can be discussed, your government being toppled by the DUP (they threatened that several times) can be discussed. Labour's stance on Brexit can be discussed. The benefits and problems of Brexit can be discussed.

Be serious for a second.

Two words: fuck off.

Because if england goes, france will go.
Then its just gonna be germany holding up the shit mess it created.
A conspiracy theorist might even suggest that was the reason the brexit vote was so close. To hide the fact that was the plan all along, a nice little fuck you to the germans for killing someones cherished grandpa
They say rigged votes are always close....

More people in London voted to leave the EU than voted for that useless excuse for a mayor.

LET THAT SINK IN.

That implies that the EU has the authority to demand even a single dollar from the UK.

>Why do Euros want us to stay?

We trade a lot with you and you trade a lot with us. And you actually export more cars to the EU than the EU exports cars to you (if you want the numbers, I can provide them with a source).

You have been our allies in transforming the EU away from a bureaucracy to a free trade block for years. You have been our allies against the backwards Med countries which love socialism more than capitalism. You have been our bridge to the US, which is a huge trading partner.

Remember your Scottish referendum? Your slogan was "Better together".

>We are weird island people, you should be glad to be rid of us.

Your country is one of the three top economies in the EU. Together, France, Germany and the UK make up more than half of the economy of the EU. Most of the other states are just tagging along.

>Your slogan
there you go again, blanket statement, no, there are those of us who dont give a fuck about Scotland, or Northern Ireland or Wales.
Theres a difference though, those are our immediate neighbours and part of the land mass, and not some new world order shit.

>That implies that the EU has the authority to demand even a single dollar from the UK.

How so?

The EU has no authority to demand a single euro from the UK after Brexit goes into effect. But you know what, that is irrelevant. Do you know what the legal obligations of the US are under NAFTA if Trump signs an order to rescind NAFTA tomorrow? Nothing.

The whole point of why the UK offered (yes offered!) to pay 50 billion pounds to the EU is because the UK wants a free trade deal with the EU and knows that a hard Brexit will cost 500 billion pounds and more.

...

Your government's slogan then. Your government argued Scotland should not leave because you are stronger together.

I agree.

I agree that we are all stronger together. Countries with a shared European history and shared routes and families should stick together in this globalist world. We should stick together and make the EU better rather than worse.

And don't kid yourself, even with Brexit, EU law won't stop to have major influences in the UK. Your government wants to avoid divergence at all cost, because that would impede trade. So UK law will be in large areas a carbon copy of EU law.

The only real change will be immigration from Eastern Europe (I doubt Western European immigration to the UK will be impeded at all, as even before the 1970s, Germans and French and Dutch were able to settle in the UK). And even on Eastern European immigration, my guess is that only the very low class immigration will be curtailed. And there are ways around these limits, e.g. (sham) marriages with Poles already in the UK or other workarounds currently used by Pakistanis, Nigerians, Indians etc.

The UK desperately needs a Donald Trump like figure.
It's not Farage, it's not May. He may not even exist.

The UK really needs to make an outlandish demand like the EU needs to pay the UK $200 billion for reparations. They need to tell the EU to fuck off and they're not getting SHIT in the divorce.

But UK is far too cucked to do that so they'll pay the 50 billion

Behind this post is I, a German. Four world cups and one Dunkirk.

>The UK desperately needs a Donald Trump like figure.
It really does not. I loved the fact that Hillary lost and I love that Trump is positive and has a grand vision attitude to the US. But as a politician he is really bad, because politics is about compromises and backdoor discussions and that is something his admin has been failing at.

>It's not Farage, it's not May. He may not even exist.
European countries don't have this B-celebrity culture as the US has. While we have our share of local B-celebrities, they are laughing stocks and are not to be taken seriously.

>The UK really needs to make an outlandish demand like the EU needs to pay the UK $200 billion for reparations.
Why would that be? They just offered to pay 50 billion pounds... that is THEIR offer, not an EU demand.

>They need to tell the EU to fuck off and they're not getting SHIT in the divorce.
Just like Trump tells Mexico to fuck off when it comes to NAFTA? Honestly, explain to me how your beloved Trump promised to reform or kill NAFTA and build the Wall that Mexico is going to pay for... has not done what you suggest the UK should do?

>But UK is far too cucked to do that so they'll pay the 50 billion
No, the UK government is realistic. They are doing exactly what Trump is doing with NAFTA - negotiate. And the 50 billion are a pittance anyway. They are composed of around 20 billion in normal regular payments that would have to be done anyway until the end of 2020 because the UK will get a transition period in which nothing changes. Then the UK will pay for Farage's and other UK politicians pensions, which sort of makes sense. And then there are various projects which the UK wants to (yes, WANTS TO) stay a part of long term. Of course if you want to continue to do European project sin atomic energy or medicine etc., you pay your share of these projects.

Next time, inform yourself on the subject.

>50 billion pounds... that is THEIR offer, not an EU demand.

everybody know when UK will leave EU they will be fucked.

import/export tax with EU will force massive amount of companies to move into EU.

your true face

Why do you want the Island creatures back?
Just enjoy the show and cheap UK holidays, let them cuddle with pakis in peace, without us degenerated mainlanders.

>let them cuddle with pakis in peace
oh, the irony, it hurts my eyes

Yeah, right, let them vote over and over again until the billionaires and corporatists and their brainwashed libtard cronies get the outcome they want.

Fuck off, EU is done for.
Austria, Italy, Visegrad, Spain, soon Sweden.
You are done for. Fuck you and your Jewish project.

The UK is cucked by germony; they will pay and bend over while doing it.

You guys should really remove the UK flag from your flag; it's a disgrace.

I'VE REALLY FUCKED UP THIS BREXIT
WE BETTER STAY IN THE UNION
HEHEHE

>The UK is cucked by germony
germany is incapable of cucking anybody because you have to be bull to cuck somebody else
germany is sissy faggot in best case, full turbo gaynigger from outer planes in worst

Voted to leave by 52% and had a year of the EU being spiteful little cunts.
You cunts are done for, accept it and put your weight behind afd. Maybe you'll do some good.

Let them leave.
Once they crash and burn pakis and africans will take over and we can fly against london once again just like the good ol times.

What do 52% and 70% have in common? Oh right, they're majorities you dimwit

I already explained why I want to keep them. If California left, the US would be weaker, even though a lot of degeneracy is going on in Cali.

lmao why are krauts so buttblasted over brexit?

He is wrong on us accepting the UK leaving. He is right that Pakistanis near exclusively live in the UK rather than the rest of Europe.

Don’t you Swiss vote over and over again on the same issues all the time?

that is true, you have turks and somalis

Really? So why is Hillary Clinton not your first female president?

>Countries with a shared European history

"hey guys, remember how we've historically divided ourselves between the continent and britain, lets ignore that"

>We should stick together and make the EU better rather than worse.

The EU is dying regardless of what Britain does, Merkel's pet project will be lucky to be alive by 2025.

>And don't kid yourself, even with Brexit, EU law won't stop to have major influences in the UK

No shit sherlock

>Your government wants to avoid divergence at all cost

The remainers, namely Theresa May, do.

>because that would impede trade

Objectively false. The EU itself impedes trade.

>So UK law will be in large areas a carbon copy of EU law.

This is patently false

>The only real change will be immigration from Eastern Europe (I doubt Western European immigration to the UK will be impeded at all, as even before the 1970s, Germans and French and Dutch were able to settle in the UK). And even on Eastern European immigration, my guess is that only the very low class immigration will be curtailed.

Wow, its almost as if people complain about low class immigration and not upper class immigration. It looks like the junior reich detective squad has solved any big mystery here.

because USA have electoral system, duh

>The EU is dying regardless of what Britain

nigger detected

the second referendum would be

a) leave with these deal
b) leave with no deal

and it wont be a second referendum, it will be a vote in parliament.

germans are retarded as fuck holy shit

>somalis

wrong, we have Turks, Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians, Kazhahs, Hungarians and Syrians.

Our total African population is less than 0.3 percent of the population.

>British leadership are EU shills
>Super buttmad that Brexit happened
>Push through this Brexit payment so that they can still get their paydays

Sharpen those guillotines

>germans are retarded as fuck holy shit

ok Churchill, take a drink and relax

I guess its true what they say about only shit for brains Germans staying in the fatherland

>what is the difference between a legally binding referendum and a non-binding popular vote
>what is the electoral college
>being as fucking stupid as this kraut

Not to mention Hillary only received 48% of the vote you halfwit.

He just said only majorities count and 52 percent may not be questions. And there I thought the UK has a parlamentary monarchy, not a Swiss style direct democracy.

nope, we want our country back. keep your commie anti-white EU and your army of Syrian rapists. we've enough problems of our own without having to share all your problems too.
>leave eu
>elect pro-british party
>crusade

>Our total African population is less than 0.3 percent of the population.
not buying it

>romania
>calling anyone a nigger

Why would you reform the EU? That's sick organisation that serves exclusively German industralists' interest. Not even Germans' interest.

Quicker it crashes - better.

because they are

> elect pro-british party
Like?

>a) leave with these deal
>b) leave with no deal

Why? The referendum would be “Do you want to leave the EU on the terms negotiated? Yes or No”

Why make a complicated question up, if you have a clear cut simple question... do you want the deal or not. Quite honestly, this should have been the approach in the first place. Negotiate the EU withdrawal and an alternative package for staying in the EU and then have the referendum.

first of all, let us consider EU
if any country is in this wicked union, can it be called sovereign?
it cannot because any and all decisions that hurt little brussels clique will be condemned, and corrupt fucks will try everything to block it
EU may have started with nice ideas, but right now it is block to push german and french interests, bully everybody else, and kill native europeans

>(((Second referendum)))
In other words, democracy is great, but if you don’t vote the way we want we’ll keep holding new votes every year until you do. Just leave. Pay the money and just get the fuck out. By becoming free of the eu (and much whiter due to it) your economy will explode and $50b will be a drop in the bucket.

That's a very shitty analogy, you know?

I'd say our biggest problem is there are obviously a lot of tories who have money invested in ways that will explode in value once everything goes tits up. They have a vested interest in everything going tits up.

Now the EU has a lot of problems, but staying in it is a much smarter move, and i think a lot of people are downright ignorant about what it brings to the table. They have no idea that consume rights will literally go up in smoke.

this doesn't make sense unless you're agreeing romanians are nigs

it could be worse tho

you could be albanian

>The referendum would be

nope. There will be a final vote in parliament and it will be A) leave on these terms b) leave with no deal.

That's already decided and set in concrete.

Sorry Hans, brexit is a done deal. We're leaving. You make this thread every 2-3 days but it doesn't change a thing.

one is coming over the horizon

>Not to mention Hillary only received 48% of the vote you halfwit.
She received a majority, 52 percent of the non spoiled votes. How many votes did Trump get?

pls leave with no deal

You're fucking retarded. The US electoral college system cannot in any way be compared to the direct referendum vote to leave the EU. No wonder Germany is going to the shitter, with dumb fucking Krauts like you living there.

>burger
>brain

>UK
>Rioting

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hans is scared.
Now that now that his country has fucked Eroupe again, he needs England to bail them out again

>That's already decided and set in concrete.
The same concrete used to say the UK will never pay a cent for Brexit?

Can't we just all be gay and play with eachothers willys for a bit

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