/Ask a NazBol anything/ NOTE: NazBol =/= Commie

The 21st century is here and politics keep on changing every day. Some political systems do not fit in the usual "left versus right" paradigm, thus being considered subversive by both far ends of the quadrant these movements are condemned to remain in the underground. IIT we dispel some myths on what could be a system ahead of our times, beyond our comprehension, and the main reason why (((them))) want to keep us away from this based ideologies, based as the samurai (((they)) fear.
We can also discuss Strasserism:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism
Nazbolshevism:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

Other urls found in this thread:

docs.google.com/document/d/1nSvJtpTp7ifS5aes2eLC4xqmA-nGqDci9sa6yOzuC8k/[email protected]&ts=5979a483&actionButton=1#
archive.org/details/germanytomorrow019874mbp
youtu.be/A9kNQ36m7-M
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laos
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

lol commie

As a matter of fact Strasserism allows free market, and NazBols believe in race, that no one is equal and that we all must have our own ethno-state....I'm not an expert but being a racist wanting an ethno-state with a free market is very far away from marxist fuckery, spanianon.

>Be you
>Read the word Bolshevism
>See the commie symbol in the NazBol flag
>Do not read about politics
>Assume NazBol means communism
>Dont ask shit
>Be ignorant
>Shlomo is pleased

esos pinches indios de tu foto fueron derrotados en menos de 7 dias.

son tan maricas que en su "declaracion de guerra" al gobierno mexicano no usaron la palabra indigena ni una sola vez, pues eran una "guerrilla" marxista leninista, que al verse derrotados en guerra decidieron volverse indios poetas y ahi la opinion publica del mundo se enamoró.

lol what is that, an M5A1 Stuart?
I thought my countries armoured division was a joke

what do nazbols think about freedom of speech and Freedom of belief/religion. i'm really curious

why did hitler purge you guys on the night of the long knives?

our armoured division can easily fuck you anytime tasamnia.

>Oh, so you think Mexico couldn't singlehandedly destroy Australia and it's colonies in a week?

TOP KEK TASMANIAN PIGSHIT!!! Oh believe me you, us Mexicans are ITCHING for a war with you. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of New Zeland soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the Niggers and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women and killing EVERY Budget Australian Newzelander pig shit they see. When Mexico's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it

Es una foto de ejemplo estúpido azteca pendejo, tu coeficiente de menos de 80 ha perdido el punto.

ni leí tu puto post. solo entre por la foto de los indios alzados esos

I hope he is the future of politics throughout the world.

Limited as in a NaZi regime, conservative values are promoted such as religion and family. Now this is very important: each ethno-state will have its own level of tolerance according to the people on that state, some will have more freedom of speech but always pushing conservative and family values as a necessary axis.

Strasser had some slightly different views on jews and eugenics. For Strasser secular jews were could be saved if raised in an anti globalist environment. As a matter of fact secular jews or ashkens would have had their own ethno-state and back in that moment it was too tedious so it was better just to go for the populist approach and kill all the jews indiscriminately .

Checked! and yes, duterte is based AF.

whats the difference between national socialism and national bolshevism?

Top taco Garcia, you can't win a war against yourself let alone wage one.
Your only tactic in attacking another country is to emigrate Mexicans there to shit it up from the inside, provided said country is within walking distance, any further would require work

Mainly the division of ethno-states and some minor aspects on eugenics and race. NazBols are more classists than racists, but still racists. Also some minor differences on the free market approach, so NazBols believe in cooperativism, and guild-like syndicates oriented by the national pride and identity , for a more collective oriented economic planning, and of course no (((private bank))) fuckery so each nation will be equally proud of their collectiveness and strive for their own future according to needs and the balance of the invisible hand.

How does it feel to be unironically in a meme party founded by schizophrenic ruski druggies in the 90s.

are you also in the nazbol discord?

nazbol kinda just sounds like national socialism, whats the biggest difference?

nazis don't worship Qaddafi

National socialism was made and supported by german methheads, nazbols are supported by ruski schizophrenic stoners

docs.google.com/document/d/1nSvJtpTp7ifS5aes2eLC4xqmA-nGqDci9sa6yOzuC8k/[email protected]&ts=5979a483&actionButton=1#

it feels great once you have the ability to overcome the jewish brainwashing to see beyond left and right. And no, the NazBol comes from the early 20's, the guys you are referring to are just post modern "trainspotters" that liked the NazBol concept since it pisses and confuses the hell of everyone.

shute fuk up

>costa rica
>posts FARC
>NazBol isn't Jewish guise!!!11!one

Post yfw Nazbol is basically Radical Centrism

>how is eugenis implemented in National bolshevism?

Not really, I dont like to use discords. Lets say I'm a lone wolf cell in a small country, so right now I'm just gathering data on how to redpill people on this and "come out of the shadows" once the road is clear.

>FARC
that's the EZLN you fucking mongoloid

>singapore
>cant tell difference between aborigean mexican guerrilas and FARCs
Fuck off nigger gook.

Do you want to expel the kikes?
Gas them?

>all these literally who """revolutionaries""" that does fuck all and get their funds from drug and human trafficking

Glad my country expelled and hanged commies.

Are you north korean or are you just a tourist?

damn, very important question 666 desu.

Basically imagine a state for each kin, no immigration fuckery, total closed borders, there are very specific reasons for you to have to leave your own country and most likely you will be a temporary guest. Each nation will have to deal internally with their development and wont need to worry about mixing, although "muttified" nations will be part of the deal. Basically outstanding citizens will have more opportunities as in a capitalist system, thus this will guarantee successful people will be able to influence society and spread their genes inside their own state, while unsuccessful "niggers" will just become second class citizens by merit.

Same approach as strasser: gas the globalist non-seculars. Give a chance to secular and ashkens inside their own isolated state and only time will tell if they are worthy to keep their nation going. Remember there will be no (((private bank))) fuckery so ashkens and non secular have a decent chance to use their wits to keep their country at a competitive market level.

>pettifogging on semantics

seriously singapore. just read those 2 goddamned wikipedia links I gave and stop making a fool of yourself and your people.

This really just sounds like rebranded natsoc I like it

Glad to see a thread about NatBol and Strasserism on here for once. I've been interested in Otto Strasser's ideas for a while now and am planning to buy his book "Germany Tomorrow" around Christmas. His ideas certainly seem interesting:
>anti-Marxism
>nationalistic
>in favor of autarky
>anti-capitalism
>traditionalist

The lines between NatSoc and NazBol are thin. For what I have read so far the NazBol system is "memetic" because its an ethno-state utopia that respects race but demands commitment to your own state, and (((they))) have fucked with our perception of nations with (((globalism))) and (((private banks))) so its really hard for people nowadays to imagine living in the same place without having to emigrate as a refugee because your country owes a lot of money to the jews.

Here's some good info, user
archive.org/details/germanytomorrow019874mbp
youtu.be/A9kNQ36m7-M
Where can I read more about National Bolshevism? Do you know any books?

I support Nazbol. I like the south east Asian version of it. Like the vietnamese and cambodians(primitivism +nazbol), too bad they had to fight each other.

Can the current vietnamese communist party be considered Nazbol ? They seem to have surrendered to neo liberalism quite a bit.

This is the system of the future if we can get rid of the jewish plague, but not many can understand a socialist regime that is anti marxist, and a free market that denies capitalism, it just blows some radicalized minds...and my outtake is that jews want it this way so people cant see the concept hidden behind the "left versus right" paradigm.

I think the only country in south east Asia that is still nazbol is laos.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laos

Well said, comrade.

I've seen a lot of nazbol pedo shit, what's up with that.

>pedo shit
What are you talking about?

>I support Nazbol

Enjoy your visit by the ISD.

>(((them)))
>(((they)))
Nazbol using TRS memes. Seems legit.
Why are you Jewish cancer?

>Where can I read more about National Bolshevism? Do you know any books?

Well user this is literally a newground so my best recommendation is to read the subcommander marcos biography and "Words are our weapons" by subcom marcos as well, so you can have a grasp of postmodern approaches for capitalism, which in that time was practically a synonym for private entities. Please note you might have to "translate" some of Marcos' views in a present time for a more accurate idea of his "each nation for each kin" view.

Things saying that the perception that man-boy relations is immoral is a Jewish conspiracy to keep the whites down and stuff. Is this actually something or a meme?

user for real, I fucking hate commies and despise how every single globalist conspiracy leads to jews in israel ad jews with money, and I have a theoretical base for that, unlike you I'm not a stormfag stereotype, don't smear my thread with your radical right wing brainwashing.

I've been a supporter of Nazbol and Juche for a long time user. This is not Singapore in the 70s anymore by embracing neo liberalism, the singapore government also had to give up its tight controls.

Thank you for the recommendation, user! I always want more to read
I don't know much about Nazbol, but Strasserism is not a meme. It was section of the NSDAP that was pushed out of the party / purged that was actually socialist / anti-capitalist. The main guy behind it was Otto Strasser. Strasserism advocates
>anti-Communism
>anti-globalism
>anti-Marxism
>anti-capitalism
>self-sufficiency
>abolition of political parties (for national unity)
>other shit (read Germany Tomorrow)

Not at all user, the Strasserian/NazBol approach is very conservative and family oriented, now each state might independently chose their own "legal age of consent" and only time and competitivity will tell how right they were about it. I guess the confusion resides on how each ethno-state is entitled to some flexible political constitutions, thus there is a gray area to exploit some falacies.

Nazbol is National Bolshevism.
Bolshevism is Communism.
National Bolshevism is Communism disguised as USSR Romanticism for right leaning newfags
>pic related
You were saying?

How are the Zapatistas NazBol in your view?

glad to hear how the minor asia sector is embracing these views. You people have a lot of potential, but will be always overlooked by the "tigers of asia".

Does anyone speak up on this stuff IRL? I make my views heard, but never call it "fascism" or "strasserism" for obvious reasons. I wish there were serious, non-LARP groups for this in the US

Okay user, In wanted to be comfy about this, but you are just taking a piss on my beliefs. For your information marxists and SJW's see me as a nazi, so fuck yourself and try to read, do not be a moron.

I just proved Nazbol is just Communism and your response is calling me a moron? /leftypol/ you have to go back.

>supporting the very ideals that will make Singapore into a leftist shithole.

How old are you kid? Have you served NS yet?

Ignore retards who think the word socialist automatically equals internationalist marxist retardation. They're like US cuckservatives who claim the NSDAP was left-wing because it has the word "socialist" in it. The truth will prevail

I support Hitler's Socialism. But Nazbol is not Socialism, its Communism. Otherwise it would be called National SOCIALISM instead of National BOLSHEVISM.

They want an aboriginal ethno-state with independent choices aside from a government that is being pushed by a (((bank))). So In a global NazBol utopia they will have a chance to prove through merit and productivity how fit they are, and most likely the choices will be taken by elders and syndicate leaders accommodating productivity and solution according to needs. People will always be willing to work hard for their people and for the sake of their own.

From the little I know, Nazbol is communism, and I'm not here to defend it. I will defend Strasserism though.

So what if this is communism? real commies hate my views, but you cant understand that. Explain to me why commies and SJW's and marxists see me as another right wing nutjob?
Also you are ignoring my point on how globalists love to see people arguing about this....

>Nazbol is communism, and I'm not here to defend it
You're alright by me

As is yourself. Anyone who at least supports Hitler's definition of socialism is alright by me.

>So what if this is communism?
Communism is Judaism.
>real commies hate my views, but you cant understand that. Explain to me why commies and SJW's and marxists see me as another right wing nutjob?
The same reason you see them as nutjobs: you both demonize the other side so you arent forced to address the flaws in your own thinking.
>Also you are ignoring my point on how globalists love to see people arguing about this....
Globalism is just the crisis, user. Its not the real threat -- never was.

Pretty old. Neo liberalism is the end stage of capitalism.Because our government supports this, we have an never ending stream of foreigners in our country driving down wages in favor of rich business owners.

If you are uncritical of capitalism then you better lurk more before posting.

GANG

So are you saying that you would not like to see ethno states with closed borders regulated by a free market with no private banks? How is that communist? if you are one of those anons who says that hitler was a commie I will have to disregard your opinion and I'm getting a bit tired of you implying I'm one of those "commie pill" anons...my arguments are clear about it, I have checked my words. NOTE: communism is a sentimental fantasy that makes no sense in the real world. Just admit you are too lazy to read about these systems.

Why do you take all the shitty failure aspects of communism and mesh them together with nationalism?

>So are you saying that you would not like to see ethno states with closed borders regulated by a free market with no private banks?
Show where I've said that? Go ahead.

this does not have anything to do with being a "gommie", this is called central right, so it will be seen as slight left for any right wing radical. I know the symbol and the word "bolshevism" sounds like gommie guckery, but that is why I'm trying to dispel myths about this. Trust me user I tried infinitechan before with these ideas and those assholes ironically redpilled me, they HATE NazBols and Strasserians, as those ideologies fuck globalist jews in so many ways it actually makes sense to see how we are having this discussion about why these "centralized" systems might actually work.

Do you listen to Egor Letov's music? Have you ever read Dugin?(early, I mean) Have you ever read Edward Limonov? Do you understand that NazBol is completely russian thing, as cultural phenomenon?

Okay user, so consider how this system is controversial from the far left and the far right at the same time, and how this would actually work if regulated by a disciplined mindset with no biases. The jews fear the samurai, the samurais are zen warriors looking for the natural center of things. So "the samurai" becomes an analogy for prideful, independent and self-sufficient identities that depend on their own people.

>tfw rich business owner

You middle class cucks are all the same desu. You should be arrested and imprisoned for being a disgusting commie.

Nazbol retards feel like a way for leftys to be subversive on Sup Forums

*lefties

I know where you are going russianon, but please consider my approach to strasserian ideologies and the areas where these two ideologies match, yes I know many over here hate post-modernism as it is intrinsically centrist, but these ideas can perfectly match in a modern paradigm if we can fantasize about a world without private banks, globalist jews and "chosen bloodlines". It is almost impossible to imagine a world without (((them))), but I hope its clear how these ideologies would be a great take off for a /new world/.

Your logic is basically "its so crazy it might work!" But Communism is nearly 200 years old and has never worked. Jews are behind our problems... we don't need Jewish systems to stop Jews. Even Dugin is a Jew.

oh really, so how is an ethno state with closed borders, regulated by a free market and no private banks a marxist/SJW fantasy? pro tip: you didn't read the whole thread to see I have explained this point already. SIDE NOTE: lefties HATE NazBols

We need a system that works for the current situation. Communism was designed for the 19th-20th century. Nazism and Fascism were designed for 30s Germany and Italy. National Bolshevism will solve all of the problems currently affecting the United States. It will stop immigration, degeneracy, and take down the kike bankers and corporate oppressors all in one swoop. This is the future folks.

>more classists than racists

What is classism in national bolshevism?

> "its so crazy it might work!"

I loled, master of disguise meme. user you went back to mention communism again, despite our efforts, and again I have been trying to explain in a very comfy way how this might be taken as a "commie trick" but you are in a very defensive position. I'm very commited with you since I knew I might have to deal with anons like you, and that is okay, but I will have to ask you about this: do you really want to understand how NazBol/Strasserism works as a based central ideology, or are you here just to prove that this is "gommie guckery" regardless of any explanation?

I don't came here to mock or troll you in some way, it's just my cultural interest how people around the world see these ideas and how popular these ideas are.
In Russia National Bolshevik Party and their descendants always been considered much more nationalistic than left-leaning. Actual lefties(antifa as example) hate them and say that they are just regular fascists. NazBol heritage has broad cultural influence on youth and underground culture here.

>user you went back to mention communism again
Bolshevism is Communism. I already proved this. National BOLSHEVISM is Communism. Fuck off.

Great question user, so first consider how hitler took rid of strasserians during the "night of the long knives". The main difference was their views on social structure, Hitler was more populist at the beginning, but later on he had to enlist black africans to take Africa. Enlisting black africans was an strasserian concept; at that moment Hitler was selling the idea of a prideful Africa for prideful blacks, now you will say "but blacks are THE origin of THE NIGGER meme". yes. Here is where classism takes place: the idea was for each kin to deal with the problems of their own kind, having the niggers with the highest IQ and pride as first class citizens inside their own nation, trying to regulate the behaviour of the lower class citizens...so its pretty much having black panther intellectuals trying to fix ghetto niggerism without having ti blame it on "whitey" or "jewie"...so the upper classes with high IQ will have to find a solution for their inner problem, creating a system of merit and adaptability, beyond the fact of being a "black" "jew" or a "mutt", this is where the free market becomes so important as a leveler for the current situation of each ethno-state.

are you one of those "rick and morty" self- righteous knowitall redditors? are you checking the thread on how a majority of other anons just went ahead of the "fuck off commie" argument? user I really respect americanons...don't make your people look like a stormfag stereotype. I will have to ignore you posts as many other anons were able to understand my point, you seem to be a troll at this point.

Is Bolshevism Communism or not?

Alright russianon, so going back for context I have read about the 90's NazBol movement in Russia.I will have to admit some ignorance about what you guys see as "left or right" since I'm practically an American for any perspective on this matter. I have read some Limonov but in a very superficial way. My intention is mainly to show the "gray areas" where Nazbolshevism meets strasserism (very post-modern). Actually if would be great if a Russian would help me out to understand this ideology from their own perspective, since I'm basically taking bits of ideas to my own current context (the west in the 21ist century)

Here's a question:
If you hate communists, then why call yourselves National Bolsheviks and use the hammer and sickle? What's wrong with just calling yourself Strasserists? Why adopt the communist symbolism if they are your enemies as well?
>oh that's right, it's because 95% of nazbol posters on Sup Forums are /leftypol/ shills trying to use entryism

Okay let me be as objective as possible: If you think Hitler was a commie, then there is nothing I can say to change your mind. But, if you consider communism as a marxist (SJW) regime with a nationalized internal productivity then this IS NOT COMMUNISM, since marx did not like the idea of a shared free market regulated by competitivity. The "commiest" concept involved in this NazBol/Strasser approach would be the collective pride of your nation, from your people to your people by your people, but everyone having enough food supplies since there is a free market that recognizes the ethno-states with the best productivity and order.

>bolshevism
>=/= commie
Kill yourself.

Also, Subcomandante Marcos is not a NazBol, you utter retard. The EZLN are leftist libertarians. L I B E R T A R I A N S. That means no borders, no nationalism. Zapatistas want a horizontal society, and--correct me if I'm wrong--NazBols want hierarchy within their "socialist" system, like the USSR did, and they don't even want the state to wither away.
Zapatista-style anarchism is as opposed to fascism as it is to Stalinism. No vanguard allowed.

>then why call yourselves National Bolsheviks and use the hammer and sickle?
actually that I have no idea and it pisses me off since if causes a lot of confusion. The more I read the more complains I see about this ambiguity. Now the NazBol movement has settled as a political reactionary movement inside russia, thus the hammer and sickle with the bolshev thing, but consider how these russians were part of a "post-modern" movement which is intended to be hard to understand. And finally if you take all the "free-market" aspects of the movement its practically capitalism without globalism, and that again is a very abstract idea for anons like you and me since we have grown in a very different context.

>1 single post
>like 100 replies later
>ignores the whole discussion

Okay I will gladly kill myself after seeing you killing yourself.

>nazbol
>free market