Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

This girl has previously tortured and killed you

But now she loves you and wants to have your babies

Can you love a girl who once did terrible things to you, Sup Forums?

Sure why not, I stink so it was a given.

I am hugely resentfull person, so no.
As an outsider I can appreciate Rem's character development, but personally I can't understand Subaru's psyche.
To be so kindhearted to someone who literally tortured you for information, killed you twice, and put up a facade around you.

I would unflinchingly kill that bitch in his position.

If she is good looking enough, sure.

No. Im hoping Tappei will eventually have Rem wake up and later experience all the shit Subaru went through since arriving to Lugunica just so that she can mentally break down and realize how she did more harm than good.

Since I can understand her rationale when she killed him, I'd understand if under the same circumstances she killed me. She didn't do it out of malice.

Every thread until Rem wakes up.

OMK teaches you accepting people who harm you is part of the process of maturing. Plus it's your retard ass's fault it happened.

And the girl is super cute, devoted, wants to have your babies, and tremendously helpful to your survival. It'll outweigh the bad. Consider it restitution.

ABSOLUTELY.

The thing is, it obviously had natural effects on Subaru. This is part of why Rem hasn't just taken over his heart (never mind the concept of preference).
Subaru could've worked towards getting her "caught" rather than just working to be friends with her AND THEN been nice.
He didn't though and that's perfectly understandable, especially in context of everything he knew at the time. And this is part of why Subaru deserves to choose, rather than being obligated to accept Rem (never mind basic human rights).

Subaru was a suspicious guy who had the smell of witch thus making people believe that he was a member of the witch cult.
Rem's fuck up makes sense, at least rationally.

It wasn't really torture, it was more a brutal violent murder. The intent was to kill more than torture.
Just when you run around you're tricky to kill cleanly.

Rem is dumb waifubait still, but I want to defend her actions regardless.

Emilia is the only person who didn't try to brutally murder Subaru when they first met and everyone's mad that Subaru likes her over miss 'I fucking brutally murdered you twice'

>This is part of why Rem hasn't just taken over his heart (never mind the concept of preference).
>he doesn't know

It's both isn't it? I haven't ready many post-anime spoilers, but at this point he loves both Emilia and Rem, no?

>rationally
The rational thing to do would've been to inform the house and have them talk it out or something. Look at all the time Subaru had before she killed him each time. What if he had been there to slaughter and gotten even one person in that time?

No, I dont really like such characters.

Even Subaru doesn't give a fuck since her actions were understandable. The only one who hates her for killing/trying to kill Subaru is Rem herself.

What an idiot.

She killed him once, the first mansion death was because of mana depletion caused by the dog; she killed him after he started behaving strangely because he was already redoing at that point.

Subaru forgives but cannot forget

It's both for now at least. But at the same time there's the whole deal where the only one he'll suicide himself for if he can't protect her is Rem.

She killed him twice after the dog bite

Shit writing, no sane person would forgive someone who tortured you or murdered you.

>Emilia (royal candidate) brings a random guy to the mansion
>guy smells like witch cult
>witch cult is responsible for killing the oni clan and Rem's whole family except for Ram
>that random person does suspicious things and knows stuff he shouldn't know
>steals a knife, leaves the mansion and spies on them

Yeah, I would have killed him too. Too much of a risk to let him live.

Sure he remembers, but he doesn't give a flying fuck. He even gets shown what happens/what could potentially happens after he dies in one of the loops that Rem kills him in (Rem still being the cold and dismissive person she was at that point), and it does nothing to change his love for her.

That's just one scenario, don't single it out. He didn't do all that during his first visit.
That said, we all know she shouldn't have killed him in the first place, but we all understand why she solo-ed him too (with the exception of the time Ram killed him because Rem was doing more than just killing him).

Im hoping Satella interferes and mind breaks Rem by showing her the previous loops and AUs. Im tired of seeing this narrative that Rem cares about Subaru. She conveniently used Subaru as an escape mechanism and even Subaru admits this in their From Zero scene.

If Rem truly understood how much shit Subaru went through she wouldn't be so hard on him failing to do the impossible.

The first time he died from the curse. The second time he was cursed and was on the way to Emilia's room at nighttime. Rem killed him because he was suspicious but also because of her hatred towards the cults. The third time he was super suspicious.

You're dumb. Like really really dumb.

Rem loves Subaru the most and expects the most out of him because she already saw what he's capable of.

>She conveniently used Subaru as an escape mechanism and even Subaru admits this in their From Zero scene

Please rewatch that scene.

>If Rem truly understood how much shit Subaru went through she wouldn't be so hard on him failing to do the impossible.

She even said that she doesn't understand how much shit Subaru has gone through. You should really rewatch that episode

>anime only fag

You can fuck off.

Am i missing something?
First mansion death was the one with the dog right? then he dies because she kills him? then he loops by jumping off the cliff, then it was the body pillow loop right?

You missed rem murdering him after he lingers on the mansion grounds

The throat slice was Ram, not Rem. Rem did torture him a little though.

He's not wrong though.

Rem loves Subaru because he had to climb an uphill battle to gain her confidence. She sees Subaru struggle but she doesn't see Subaru struggle and die multiple times. She doesn't understand what exactly he's went through or how hard, terrifying and traumatizing his experiences are.

Oh yes, that's true, it was Ram in that instance, but I do not think Rem would've stopped.
Well, she dies for him many many times in the original source, during the Betelgeuse arc, way more than just 2 times, and they are all horrific, the one that snaps him out of confusion is the one shown in the anime with her confession.

>would you forgive a cute oni with fat tits
Yes, for absolutely anything.

Even then in the chapter "From Zero" she says exactly that as well.

No. That's why I love Emilia

>comforts you and gives you lap pillows

>doesnt force you to change

She's perfect!

>doesnt force you to change

That's probably the shittiest aspect of her personality. This is probably why Otto and Patarche are higher on the best girl/popularity list than EMilia

But Otto is a guy and Patarche is a lizard

I see no problem with this

What? I read every translation we got. It's from the from zero chapter. Not my fault that you're to dumb to read.

>[Rem: I don’t know what type of rough feelings you’ve been through, or what you’ve done to make you suffer like this. I know I shouldn’t rashly say something like I understand it too.]

>[Rem: But…but even then…there are things that I understand.]

>[Rem: I know that Subaru-kun isn’t someone who could give up on something midway.]

>[Rem: I know that Subaru-kun isn’t someone who can give up on the future.]

She clearly said that she doesn't understand everything.

>[Subaru: I wanted to say that it couldn’t be helped! I wanted people to tell me that it couldn’t be helped! That’s it! I only pretended to do my best for that reason! Even when I had you help me with studying, it was just a pose to cover up my embarrassment! Deep inside, I’m just a small, cowardly piece of filth who only cares about my appearance. Deep inside, nothing….! Nothing has changed!]

Subaru used them as an escape mechanism not the other way round you dumb fuck.

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>"The most popular two-dimensional character in 2016"

>1. Rem (Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World-)
>2. Karamatsu (Osomatsu-san/Mr. Osomatsu)
>3. Ichimatsu (Osomatsu-san/Mr. Osomatsu)
>4. Victor Nikiforov (Yuri!!! On ICE)
>5. Osamu Dazai (Bungo Stray Dogs)
>6. Chuya Nakahara (Bungo Stray Dos)
>7. Kiyomitsu Kashuu (Touken Ranbu)
>8. Toru Amuro (Detective Conan)
>9. Sogo Osaka (Idolish 7)
>10. Jyushimatsu (Osomatsu-san/Mr. Osomatsu)

No longer waifubait, objectively best girl.

They both used each other as escape mechanisms. Not everything has to be spelled out explicitly in the novels, you idiot. Subaru wanted acknowledgement to hide his insecurities of being useless and incompetent and Rem used Subaru as a way to save herself from her own insecurities towards her sister. She didn't like Subaru initially; only until Subaru had to do the impossible - only possible through multiple deaths - to progress and build his relationships with everyone else. She knows she doesn't understand how Subaru does it but that doesn't mean she wouldn't feel extremely guilty if she ever found out about his powers and the fucked up experiences he had to go through. She doesnt see Subaru die like we do - she just sees her "fanatical hero" succeed in the main loops.

In a sense, Rem is spared from the full consequences of her actions whereas Subaru was unlucky enough to see the sadistic sides of her.

>Is the only person Subaru allows to openly show his weakness and flaws to
>The few people who criticizes him and shittalks him other than Otto
>Has viewed him many times as anything but someone who is less than perfect or the farthest away from a hero
>Still has the balls to claim Rem views him as a "fanatical hero"

What did he mean by this?

>you can't be a hero if you're not perfect in every way

What are you even arguing for? You said that

> Im tired of seeing this narrative that Rem cares about Subaru. She conveniently used Subaru as an escape mechanism and even Subaru admits this in their From Zero scene.

This is wrong. Stop pulling shit out of nowhere.

>If Rem truly understood how much shit Subaru went through she wouldn't be so hard on him failing to do the impossible.

Rem isn't even hard on him for failing. She does know what a useless piece of shit he can be but she also knows that he isn't someone who gives up easily. She's hard on him if he want to give up because she knows what he's capable of. If Rem ever sees what she did in the arc 2 loops she would blame and hate herself for that and it would probably break her until Subaru gives her a lesson.

Just ignore retards. You're just wasting your time.

>Can you love a girl who once did terrible things to you, Sup Forums?
People love modern tsunderes so clearly yes.

Rem is hard on him for giving up, not just for failing, like when Subaru wanted to run away from everything - and who can blame him when the audience sees first hand how he was fucked over hard in like 2-3 loops with Pete. She places unrealistic expectations on Subaru who miraculously manages to pull through due to his powers such as saving the mansion from the witch cult and the whale hunt - all which should have ended in failures in under normal circumstances.

My entire fucking point was that Rem doesnt care about Subaru as much as we'd think because she doesn't understand what he goes through and admittedly knows this. This facade of wanting Subaru to be a better man is easy to tear down when you realize that she doesn't truly *get* Subaru and his experiences. She pushes him without realizing just how dangerous and reckless and hopeless many of the situations that Subaru deals with really are. Im not questioning her commitment to him since she obviously would die for him as seen in like 2 loops.

>Rem is hard on him for giving up, not just for failing

I chuckled. If thats hard for you I don't even know how you survive everyday without crying on every little thing that is considered as "hard" for you.

I really do think you are illiterate.

Sure. Just cry inside your little bubble.

You're autistic and delusional if you think you would survive emotionally intact as Subaru. Please stop daydreaming like an edgelord.

Careful with your edge man. You might hurt him.

>I chuckled. If thats hard for you I don't even know how you survive everyday without crying on every little thing that is considered as "hard" for you

Im pretty sure DYING is considered "hard" for anyone, you retard

Didn't see what I quoted?
I was laughing at the fact that he considered what Rem told him as "hard".
IRetard

Like I said

You literally misinterpreted and half quoted what I said. We're done here. Im sure in your dreams you would do a better job than Subaru since you seem to fancy being edgy

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That's not what he said and you know it. He was talking about rem and her expectations of subaru. user even i got that part of his argument and I dknt even agree with him.

>you seem to fancy being edgy
You need to get one of these.

>killed you without hearing your side of the story

>wants your dick afterwards

>mc forgets all of that happening

Shitty waifubait trash of a series. Also fuck off back to r/anime

How is lemonwater translations going?

Ok first how in the flying fuck did you extract

>Rem is being hard on Subaru for giving up and failing

to

>Its hard to give up and fail because it hurts him alot

Are you people just retarded or something?

So how Rem talked with Subaru about him giving up is hard? You really believe that how she told him about not to give up is harsh? Damn son. I agree with this guy.

Honestly only desperate virgins would love her

English is probably not even his first language. No wonder he cant articulate half the shit he says properly.

Im just in episode 3 but if this is true then Im dropping the show. I heard about the retarded I LOVE EMILIA confession so Im just watching it for the ride.

>he has a different opinion
>he must be a retard
>hurr durr I can articulate what I want to say

You're quite amusing user.

>He didn't do all that during his first visit.
And she didn't mess with him in the first loop, in fact him and the maids got along well, its why its surprising they begin to be aggressive towards him in subsequent loops. That was the point.

1st Loop - 'Oh hey, these seem like nice people'
2nd Loop - 'Okay now I'm dying for a couple reasons, gotta protect Emilia'
3rd - 'Oh shit, its the maids, they're psycho, gotta just run'
4th - 'No wait, my first opinion was correct, they are fundamentally good I just understood nothing real about them'
5th - 'Lets reclaim that friendship we had from the first loop'

You literally can't even read properly. Of course you're retarded to me. It's not even entertaining to read your asshurt assumptions about me because you don't understand what you're talking about.

Whatever helps you sleep at night user.

user is just butthurt, characters have good reasons for what they're doing

It's not what happens

She killed him because his rewind ability puts an evil aura on him when activated that she could see and he acted really shifty in the following loops.

Ad the end of the penultimate loop he realizes that when he was bedridden the first time the twins were tending to him geniuinely worried about the wellbeing of a perfect stranger and thus actual nice people who deserved better than what he did

>geniuinely worried about the wellbeing of a perfect stranger
Who also smells like pure Satan

rem still killed him even when he was cursed which was completely unnecessary

The first time he didn't smell like satan and indeed he got along with them because the last time he respawned was several days before, actually that time he died because of the dog bite

the following time due to the respawn in the bed he was reeking of the witch aura and tus the mistook him for a cultist who they hate for very personal and justifiable reasons

it would have been more cruel to let him suffer and die from the curse instead of finishing him off quickly, don't forget her hatred for the witch cult and subaru's cent

Rem killed him the second and third time, the first time he died because of the dog bite

Not him but, I'm a really cynical person. When subaru asks them if they would be showing him around the mansion I'd be suspicious immediately. Especially with the shit thats happening around. But hey that's just me.

Finishing off quickly is one thing. Beating him to death and ripping out his body parts and organs is another. Either way everyone but emilia were cunts to Subaru initially.

>who they hate for very personal and justifiable reasons
Personal reasons aside, Witch Cultists are 'Kill on sight' everywhere in Lugnica, that he basically was allowed to wander around while smelling like he does and not killed immediately is already pushing things. If he was detected by anyone else he would've been arrested and imprisoned or killed.

No, she kills him brutally out of frustration. It was unnecessarily violent and Emilia calls her out on it since she's a bad liar.

Ram killed him the third time

He smelled like the cultists and appeared mysteriously out of nowhere then tried to stay with them. Her master is a candidate so she would be very wary of those kind of guys.

>Either way everyone but emilia were cunts to Subaru initially.
She lied to him and was trying to get him to fuck off, she was also a cunt to him initially.

>Either way everyone but emilia were cunts to Subaru initially.


Now you see why Emilia deserves to win. Based tappei is gonna make it happen anyway!

>Her master is a candidate so she would be very wary of those kind of guys.
They were very specifically on the lookout for Witch Cult activity. Rem was also training to fight them specifically. Then one just happens to show up when they expect them to.

I would like her better if she introduced herself as Nutella.

Exactly. I don't blame her for the kills.

No, EMT or death.

You can question the brutality of how she treated him, but then the Witch Cult actually shows up and Subaru wants to do even worse to them.

She'll never wake up, Satan.

Something seems off about Rem.

Subaru knows that the maids are good people who did something they thought was right. They aren't perfect and they make mistakes just like Subaru and he doesn't give a fuck that they killed him since he knows they had reasons to do so.

Is this porn?

She's speaking Chinese.

Thinking about it, we never saw the continuation of that loop.

Yes. Hope you like BCC

Thanks for the image. My copy was too bright.