Why do you people defend capitalism when you're all poor, college students and NEETs all getting fucked over by it? All of the problems you can think of are result of capitalism.
Mass immigration, mass culture, stagnant wages, wealth inequality, Jews, debt slavery, it's all capitalism. Why do you support a system that fucks you over?
PS Communism doesn't have to be globalist. en.wikipedia.org
STFU commie
ALSO wtf is this pic
Waluigi the Joseph Stalin of video games
Im poor because niggers keep stealing my money
> It's all Capitalism
Marxists have been trying to fulfill their prophecy by undermining the west for over 100 years now. The Fabian's have chewed away at the pillars of our society for generations and have been in control of the institutions for a long time, but you don't have the truth on your side Commie.
Define poor.
>you're all poor
I'm not poor. I make 70k a year with 25k in crypto and 10k in cash. I'll get a pay raise at the end of the year that will probably put me between 80 and 90k.
Why are all communists poor worthless niggers that want to steal the wealth of people more successful than them?
Why can't you guys admit that we tried your system already and it not only failed but also managed to kill 10 times more people than the Nazis. But I guess it's ok to murder and starve out people as long as it's not about race, right?
>college students
Government funding for college loans need to go. If you're going to college you need to either major in a profitable skill or treat your liberal arts education like the luxury it is.
>Communism doesn't have to be globalist.
If I'm a 1% getting the snot taxed out of me I'm moving myself and my business to Switzerland no joke.
What is your solution to making college more accessible and affordable then? A good educated populace is ideal for any society no? Or do you like having retards in your country?
I'm sure you do buddy. Look man there are millions of your fellow countrymen getting absolutely buttfucked every day and you can see it on here plainly the discontent bred from that. Not everyone is so lucky to succeed in this system that's increasingly growing harder to compete in.
Also re second point: Well yeah because race you can't control behavior you can. Nazis targeted Jews and not just the shady ones in power they targeted every single Jew in the borders even the deli owners and innocents. People who died under the communist regime died because they were dissenters, criminals, sabotagers of the state. They chose to that on their own volition. You played by the rules and contributed you were treated fairly and lived in a prosperous society working for all.
You don't even pay taxes if you're poor dumbfuck your money doesn't go to niggers on welfare
Because I would rather be poor and hungry as opposed to poor and literally starving like under (((Communism))).
The idea is to be useful to the free market. I make £70k / year as a medical doctor and could make 3x that in freer countries.
The fact you can even argue against capitalism proves that you're completely unconvinced by evidence and, as someone posting under the Soviet flag, deserve the helicopter.
YOU HAVE TO BE 18 TO POST HERE, AND THERE ARE NO ADULT COMMIES NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DEAD FROM STARVATION.
Go suck your leftist professor's cock some more, maybe you'll get an A for effort.
my daddy is rich as heck so i don't need to be smart or ambitious to benefit from capitalism XD
>communist fundamentally misunderstands what capitalism is and what the effects are.
Not surprising.
I'm 45. I bought 1000 bitcoins 8 years ago. For the fuck of it. Your question again?
>Mass immigration
Public ownership is what encourages migrants to come in the first place to reap the goods.
>mass culture
Things that are popular in capitalism are justifiable mass culture if most people enjoy it. Better than a "forced" mass culture through public ownership.
>stagnant wages
Wages are stagnant because taxes and regulations make companies pay so much and it has to come from somewhere
>wealth inequality
Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any system in the world
>Jews
whatever
>debt slavery
Going into debt is a choice
I live in America. All the evidence i've seen of capitalism is failure, corruption, and decay.
>All of the problems you can think of are result of capitalism.
>Mass immigration, mass culture, stagnant wages, wealth inequality, Jews, debt slavery
Wow that literally sounds like communist countries also
>TFW you find out both Communism and Capitalism are just 2 sides of the same coin!
TIME TO ASCEND RETARD!
Think outside the "two option" box for a second.
>capitalism is bad because immigration hurrr
No, immigration is bad because it fucks up the balance of the workforce and gets you a bunch of commie voting shitskins (among other things)
One of the reasons why all on the economic right need to be anti immigrant is because shitskins are antithetical and opposed to liberty and free markets
Fuck off using that Marxist definition of "capitalism." You're conflating a crony system Marx named with a free market and private property rights. Your dialectic doesn't work here
Is that not capitalism in it's purest form?
What the fucks up with this picture is it some of that hawt bbw waluigi public humiliation ball busting porn ive fantasised about?
Sauce?
Actually I am a 36 year old home owner and have a family.
>sage goes in options field for slide threads
What's your idea? Fascism?
*tips tinfoil*
>Not everyone is so lucky to succeed in this system that's increasingly growing harder to compete in.
It's not luck you fuck. I worked my ass off since grade school into college into my career. I majored in a degree that wasn't dog shit and it pays well. That's all there is to it. I grew up poor and now I'm not. And now that I'm where I am, I get the pleasure of throwing like 30% of my income into a fucking hole. And for what? To fund a bunch of fucking boomers and pointless wars? Fuck that. Every dollar I get back in taxes is a dollar not spent on another pointless bomb or one second less of having boomers exist on this earth.
>People who died under the communist regime died because they were dissenters, criminals, sabotagers of the state.
And this is why your shit bag ideology is no good. Under a capitalist society you're free to be a hippie faggot and live on a commune where money isn't a thing.
In a communist society you're forced to be communist and work to quota. The irony is that the same faggots shilling for communism would be the same lazy shits sent off to work camps for not working hard enough and smoking too much pot. You would be on the firing squad first.
No space shot.
>turn off your bias for once and learn
also stop hanging out in echo chambers thats probably why you need tons of people to answer questions for you
Hi commie, why do able-bodied people that produce no economic value deserve the fruits of those that do?
Failure, corruption and decay hmmm? Like the USSR? I'd be interested to know why you left your commie utopia to come to the American cesspool you despise so fervently?
There is one compelling argument for private ownership of the means of production. If private citizens cannot own the means of production, then they cannot borrow against it or sell it either. That makes transferring capital to new uses and financing new investments more complicated and time consuming. We have seen this happen in Ethiopia, where private citizens cannot own land. I suspect that similar dynamics apply with all physical means of production.
That's why you're a traitor and not a nationalist at all. Capitalist lolberts and ayncraps are hypocrites.
>college
>educated populace
>Implying lower rates for STEM loans to students with good grades wouldn't be profitable
>Implying college is necessary to be educated
>Implying apprenticeship programs don't exist
>Implying before college became commonplace people who started their careers without post-highschool formal education were retards
>Implying people who don't have a degree are "retards"
Your coastal elite bias is showing, hard, and I'm embarrassed for you because I used to think like that.
Were you also raised in a family that considered lack of college education as shameful as time in prison? Do you think you might be able to understand why people outside your bubble might consider this attitude absurd?
I haven't had a stable job since I graduated but I have no debt since I went to a public uni. My income comes from doing odd jobs that don't require a contract, my country doesn't have welfare, at least not for people like me who are not literally dying of hunger yet I will never accept socialism.
With capitalism I can go buy my food, pay my rent and have some little extra for my hobbies. Yes, I can't afford luxury like a car or a house or expensive clothes but I know I have the option of getting a good job and build my own life with my own money and that gives life a little money. With socialism you can't aspire to anything, higher education is not needed because there is no incentive for that, you will live and you will die eating the same shit every day, living in the same shit house that is given to everybody, life is meaningless because you're nothing but a tool to keep that horrible idea of "everyone should be poor like me" running.
Every single Commie without exception sees themselves as a temporarily embarrassed party member. After the revolution they all expect to be the ones in charge deciding who gets distributed what.
>you're all poor, college students and NEETs
>Sup Forums is only one kind of person.
>>Implying lower rates for STEM loans to students with good grades wouldn't be profitable
I honestly don't know why we even give loans to students that don't have a major decided yet much less those that decided retarded degrees with no job prospects.
The interest rate and likelihood of getting the loan should be based on current and future job market prospects for said degree. No more loans students can't pay back if they never get the loan for a degree in underwater trans african woman basket weaving studies.
>not a nationalist at all
Europeans have been moving to different areas of Europe since half a millenium ago
Ironically enough capitalism endorses lefties and marxists, literally any roastie, fag or numale will have more chances to get hired. I support liberal fascism; a job for everyone according to your place in society and STFO or be BTFO.
No one in my family has ever gotten a degree. We've been here since the early 1800's.
Thanks Obama
>why we even give loans to students that don't have a major decided
The government does this because Education Is Always Good because of dummies like who believe not having a college education makes you a retard.
At least I'm not getting death marched to fight the Japanese in Siberia while my family is executed at home because they are educated and have good Christian morals like my great great grandfather was.
Ironically raising the price of college because the government will write a blank check for any retard that gets accepted.
Defiantly not starvation and mass human cruelty. Read a book or 2. I recommend Imperium. Its a travel guide through the soviet union.
>STEM is be all end all
Dude have you ever read a paper by a stem major? They might know math but holy fuck are they terrible writers. Math and science aren't the only valuable skills in society nor should everyone do them. There's only so many Stem jobs to go around. I'm not saying stem is bad but there is value in other fields and you all act like it's the only thing worth studying.
College has more value than just job training. It's about critical thinking and exploring yourself intellectually. There may be too many people going currently yes but college is ultimately a good thing for those with the ability to go and helps them develop their minds to the fullest capabilities and become well rounded individuals. You can choose what to learn. We can cut some of the dead weight but really it's a place of intellectual discussion and ideas first and foremost.
Also the world has changed so much and education standards as well. High school degrees used to be worth something, now you're expected to have them because it's so easy. The world is different so you can't use examples from the past like that.
99% of you let's be fucking real kid
I'd rather see my society at large succeed and be well rounded and afforded equal opportunity than make millions of dollars. I don't care about power I care about a society that works for everyone where everything is clean and works properly, everyone is intelligent, strong, beautiful, and taken care of not having to worry.
You're onto something here but still we shouldn't deny kids who want to go the opportunity to learn
I never lived in the USSR. I was born in this hellhole against my will. I would rather live in 70s-80s USSR than 2017 America.
It doesn't have to be that way. Many different forms of communism exist. Look into libertarian socialism or left communism.
Would you rather they fucking die?
Maybe they need that little extra help to step up and become productive on their own?
Starvation is worse.
Any group of people smart and hard working enough to take down the capitalist system would just find themselves working to their benefit in capitalism.
And today you vote GOP. Goes to show.
I bet Venezuela would let you in.
>being this ignorant
Venezuela and the post Khrushchev Thaw USSR are nothing alike.
>Maybe they need that little extra help to step up and become productive on their own?
'little extra help'
Full redistribution of wealth isn't 'little extra help'
Why stop at redistributing wealth
Why should we only have the right to other people's labor?
Lets add the right to other peoples land and houses too
And their bodies as well
Yes. But that is what fascism is for.
Libertarian socialism isn't communism. You fucks always do this. Move the goal a little more to the left. Then just a bit more. And then finally everyone is spy and secret police and then gulag.
Not Tinfoil, they write about it in great detail how they pushed Keynesian economics as a midway point to Socialism and to help justify their policies, how they infiltrated and took over the Union movement etc.
>thats not real communism!
THERE IT IS!
Except for starvation and food lines
the revolt against capitalism is really just a revolt against debt based slavery.
True capitalism has never been tried before because of (((morality))).
>true capitalism would just turn into a human civilization long game of eve
Capitalism has benefited me greatly because I didnt borrow money for college, I don't borrow money for my cars and I didn't borrow money for my home. Look up Anton Kreil.
Like clockwork lmao
I find it funny that you list jews to degrade capitalism when it was the jews that founded the communist party... Remember ladies and gents Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were both jews. Also most people that live in this wonderful capitalist society are either middle class and or upper class, And the fact that you mention poor college students as a representation to the majority of a capitalist society to degrade capitalism is sad... College students are just starting off in society... their not going to instantly be rich and or middle class and if you think communism and socialism are going to do that your either high or on LSD... Look at Greece or Venezuela and it will show you how shitty the system is... even the most successful communist country China which isn't even fully communist given the fact they mix in capitalism... there still not successful more than 50% of the Chinese population is living in poverty so please rethink your post.
You just said there are different forms of communism fuck wit.These guys are fucking psycho. Just wait for the day they start trying to revolt again. We can help the police identify the Commie scum.
Why don't you actually read history instead of going by memes
We dont you 200% nigger
>Dude have you ever read a paper by a stem major? They might know math but holy fuck are they terrible writers. Math and science aren't the only valuable skills in society nor should everyone do them. There's only so many Stem jobs to go around. I'm not saying stem is bad but there is value in other fields and you all act like it's the only thing worth studying.
You're just mad that us STEM kids will be making six figures with our degrees while you make nothing from a non-profit business with your useless genderqueer studies degree. The user you're replying to is basically saying that kids who pursue useful major such as STEM majors tend to be very successful, more often than not, a hell of a lot more successful than you. So go suck a fat chode, you nigger loving commie.
They are different types of societies. Venezuela is totally different.
I'm poor because of commie fucks like you
soon, we will hang all of you
Yea they have a bias and are unwilling to learn anything that goes against it.
Complete psychos
You know whats funny about that? When you get fucked by capitalism, you're actually getting fucked by your own decisions.
YOU ARE THE MEME!
>retard
You are one to talk.
>half a millennium ago
>when nationalism didn't exist
Fascinating
You first retard and you can learn firsthand by taking a trip to Venezuela and starve there.
yeah son i hope you get to experience communism yourself, i fucking hope you do
you gonna cash out or what?
Both Capitalism and Communism are jewish creations.
>u r 1 2 talk
>IMPLYING!!!!
I use to be a Marxist-Leninist actually.
>You're onto something here but still we shouldn't deny kids who want to go the opportunity to learn
They aren't being denied anything. If they want to go to school they can apply for a loan and there should be criteria in the same way that they won't give you a home loan if you have no job. Past that if they can't get a loan they can apply to a cheap community college that they can pay their way through.
You are wrong about the USSR that is my point read the fucking books
You fucked up by arguing in a commie flag you dumbass.
You could argue pro-christianity, but if you argue under a commie flag, a wave of heretics are going to come and fuck you over all the same.
Get rekd commie scum
Long Live (((CAPITALISM)))
This.
I'm going into chemical engineering and I can
Dude you are flying the flag of a country that actually killed members of my family. If you think this is a good idea Bolshevik well I got your answer.
That is absolutely retarded.
I have. They told me the USSR was a hell full of betrayal imprisonment and restriction.
If you revolt I will kill you. If you take hold I will hunt you. I am waiting.
>Math and science aren't the only valuable skills in society nor should everyone do them.
I did not mean literally only STEM. I use "STEM" as a heuristic for "reliably profitable skill sets."
>There's only so many Stem jobs to go around.
This is not how jobs work. Why would you treat jobs like a finite resource charitably doled out by a select few chosen ones with all the wealth? Mind you the 1% has high turnover, so "muh exploitative oligarchy who stay at the top" is not even how this works. I can literally create a STEM job, right now, by finding a _demand_ or in other words a desire for some software that someone would pay money for, and there are lots of those out there right now, and I _supply_ the product for them and arrange an exchange of capital via a _contract_. People who do this are called _contractors_. People have the ability to _create jobs_ by investing capital and creating wealth, such as via contracting, or starting a small business. Please for the love of God take an economics class next semester or next year instead of the intro to social justice class for which you're posting on Sup Forums for extra credit.
>College has more value than just job training. It's about critical thinking and exploring yourself intellectually.
Do you seriously believe the only way to learn critical thinking is via a college education?
>college is ultimately a good thing for those with the ability to go
I fully agree that people who have the ability to pay for a liberal arts degree should go ahead and do so. This statement does not necessarily imply that wealth forcibly extracted from a taxpayer should pay those costs for them.
>we shouldn't deny kids who want to go the opportunity to learn
Do you know what negative rights are? If the government abolishes literally all state and federal funding for any kind of education but they aren't _actively outlawing_ education, they aren't denying anyone the opportunity to learn. That is how opportunity works.
>High school degrees used to be worth something, now you're expected to have them because it's so easy.
So do you think it should be harder to get high school degrees? What will you do with the people who can't get them?