Did she deserve it?

Did she deserve it?

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yes, she's a garbage tsundere character

Did you even watch the show?

I don't get your post

The relationship between Asuka and Shinji is the typical case of a marriage running out of love after a couple of years with each partner now deeply resenting deeply the other and doing whatever in their power to make the other's life miserable.

After hearing that Asuka as a character never liked or will like Shinji, it just confuses me even more now.

All tsunderes deserve it.

It wouldn't even be that because there was nothing but hate between them from the start

It makes complete sense
14 year olds don't have the mental maturity needed to truly love another person, especially Asuka who is fucked up beyond belief

Is that what her seiyuu was eluding to? That she;s too damaged? When ever the JAP voice actors ever discuss characters, Asuka is one everyone laughs at on finding someone that will love her.

And if you believe that Asuka and Shinji are the only ones left, well... they are screwed.

No it should of ended with asuka stabbing shinji to death last scene

>At least you're not choking me as hard as you choked your chicken.

Was the choke of Shinjis way of "giving her wish"? Remember Asuka said she'd rather die than be with him, and then he chokes her.

I remember hearing her original line was "I will never let you kill me"

>That she;s too damaged?
Let me explain something to you about Asuka and girls like Asuka. I know about this because I am also a girl who has very similar circumstances to Asuka
When a girl loses a parent in early childhood, whether they were particularly close to her or not, a permanent hole in her heart forms.

The girl will try desperately to fill it, whether it be with material goods like buying lots of clothes and makeup, or using older men to makeup for her lack of a father figure in childhood.
It's not love that's going on here, it's a desperate means to try to make up for her childhood.

This is not to say that Asuka or I will ever be able to love someone, but I think it may be a very long time, and it would need to be with someone who would love us for everything we are, unconditional love like that of a parent (mom or father).
The men currently in Asuka's life do not and cannot give that to her.
But that is not to say she won't find that special person eventually, like hopefully all of us will.

Also Yui said other humans will come back, and Shinji had been alone on that beach for quite some time before Asuka showed up.

If they posses the will to live, but yeah time passed judging by Misato's cross. I'm guessing a week or two.

We don't know if people WILL come back, because that's where it ended. It could be weeks, months and maybe years. Maybe never.

Anno confirmed in a recent interview that they were planning on doing a sequel similar to Attack on Titan with many humans trying to survive

So according to him humans do come back, and plenty of them

You mean Rebuild 4.0, there is no direct "sequel" to End of Evangelion planned.

No, Anno was talking about a sequel to EoE that they briefly talked about doing in the 90s, but soon dropped it.

That was a long time ago, as for now its all about rebuild.

Okay?
All I'm saying is that according to Anno humans come back in End of Evangelion. He says so in the interview.

But since its cut now, its safe to use your own imagination on what happens next.

I guess so, but that's pretty delusional to ignore the own creator's words on the matter.
You're just running away from reality.

doesn't matter, the show is garbage and anyone who says differently is painfully blinded by nostalgia and/or contrarian to the truth.

>woman
Yes.

>an idea that was never created
>reality

I honestly can't and don't want to answer that question.
I had nothing but everlasting love for my gf. We both had problems with our parents that prevented us from having normal lives, so we were kind of each-other's basis in reality. She cheated on me with another woman (a really low brow communal apartments fake jewelry chick) and another guy (an emotionally and psychologically abusive telemarketer that didn't like women but liked humiliation). She tried calling me hundreds of times after that but I never replied. I'm the last person to judge since I would probably be the first person to choke. I gave all of my time to someone, just to be someone's nothing.

It's not about the talks of a sequel, it's about how Anno directly said humans will come back.

>tfw no anime where women are deservingly brutalized often

>Anno directly said humans will come back.
what character was that?

>Toaru Majutsu no Index

sick

well, there's definitely a gender disparity in how violence is portrayed in anime

totally forgot that

There's also definitely something about wanting to hurt and injure another human being.

>fiction is the same as real life

>cruelty does not make you cruel

>tfw no asuka gf with daddy issues I can love forever even if she hurts me.

That kind of love does not exist any more. People are parasites.

So, you have not watch any fighting anime before?

That's not really an anime problem, it's like that in all other media, and it's merely a reflection of real life. If anything, anime is a lot better in that regar

A survival situation like war or like trying to nail someone who's pretending to be one of the deaf-mutes is completely different from wanting to strangle a defenseless person.

>defenseless

b80

God, I hate this fandom so much sometimes.

that kind of love never existed outside of what was enforced by society

>tfw nobody understand this scene

watch this

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Watch this instead.
youtube.com/watch?v=px7FFMOTtyM

Maybe.

Without a doubt.

Although the scene has a different meaning from what you're trying to get at.

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Why though?
I want to hear it from you, in your own words.

The better question to ask, "Did she like it?"

t. Anno

I watched that video some time ago and I found it somehow interesting... until he began to give some things for granted to make the scene look like an asushin ending.

And I recall having read that very same analysis on EvaGeeks (shame on me I visited that site), most likely by the same author of that video, and in which he defined himself as a "strong asushin shpper".

He uses Hegel as he could have used any other philosophical material. But that doesn't explains anything, as it is his very own personal interpretation. And not an objective one, but a kind of forced A/S vision, which is what disgusts me (no pun intended).

Asushin is the true ship i swear

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While I do see there might be some part of Hegel in Evangelion (as well as Schopenhauer and Nietzsche), I agree the interpretation of that video is kind of forced to make it fit into AsuShin ship.
I don't think there are such romantic messages in the last scene. I consider it as a hopeful message of optimism againstt depression; life against death. That's why I would say Asuka kind of represents the ultimate will to come back to life; not because she "needs" anyone, as the author of that video says, but because she has learnt to appreciate herself, and thus, appreciate to be alive.

That said, I can't agree with that naively optimistic message of the two of them "understanding and accepting each other". The toxicity between Asuka and Shinji is still present and makes it impossible for them to understand each other, so I personally see no hope for a hypothetical relationship between them unless they manage to change and mature quite a lot.

And finally, as for the caress, its resemblance with that of Yui is beyond any doubt. It's kind of a motherly caress which would come to confirm "Once a baby is born, the first other they meet is their mother".

By touching his face in a motherly way, Asuka is proving that she's "other person" and that they're not in Instrumentality anymore. Thus, they're different beings in real world. But seeing the last scene as a symbol of understanding, acceptance or even love is utterly ridiculous, and sadly tarnishes that video analysis, which would be great otherwise.

No. He should have blown his load in her mouth or on her titties instead of his hand.

Evangelion is not about ships or romance. They are all children after all, so love is completely out of the question. Unless you understand that, it's absurd to debate any further.

But leaving that aside, if your ideal of a loving relationship is violent, toxic and insincere (which would be the perfect definition for canon asushin), then there's something wrong in your mind (I don't intend to offend you or anything, but that's the way I see it; I'm sorry if I did).
That, or you have read too many fanfic doujins, which is also pretty sad.

If the both of them matured enough, there would be some minimum hope for such relationship. But the way they are through the whole NGE/EoE makes it absolutely non-viable. There is too much hatred and incomprehension between them.

This.

Asuka still looks angry as fuck while she's touching his face.

Asuka fans don't really care about Eva, just ignoring large chunks of the show for their shipping.

They spammed an entire thread with porn once because someone posted the screencap of Shinji saying he loves Kaworu.

>That, or you have read too many fanfic doujins, which is also pretty sad.
Where the fuck do you think you are?

We're talking about EoE, not ridiculous fanfiction parallel interpretations. Maybe it is you who doesn't know where you are.

I just find the idea of two last people on Earth parting ways and never connecting incredibly depressive.
If that sort of thing happened to me, I would have killed myself out of spite.

I was commenting on the out of place claim that reading too many fanfic doujinshi is "also pretty sad". No matter which thread, this is still Sup Forums, and that opinion doesn't compute with that.

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Well, I apologize if I offended you. I meant judging NGE and EoE having in mind ships, fanfics and doujins as many people do is ridiculous.

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Not your blog.

Those are neither Asuka nor Shinji, but some fantasy versions of them. And believing they are the real ones is exactly what I meant when I said "sad".

No shit.
You have to literally delude yourself and pretend Asuka and Shinji are completely different characters to ship them together.

Notice how these shippers only resort to posting doujins because they can't argue against the canon.

Fujo spotted

I don't ship anyone in Eva, I just think it's retarded how you get triggered at a fucking screencap

How can you even call yourself a fan of the show?

Both Asushin shippers and deniers overanalyze and overfanwank certain aspects of the show. It's both possible in a non-"toxic" way since we see both of them (maybe only Shinji) overcome themselves (and Shinji's scrawny ass character was only a barrier to hide himself from the World) and it may not happen, but I don't know, I see them at least understand each other a little, since after shit that happened it's pretty hard not to. Sartre's message in Eva is about trying to understand something that's not fully understandable and thus making life meaningful. Literally Kaji's words.
>tfw Shinji had both three maternal figures in his life, two of whom he wanted to bang (Unit 01, Rei/Lilith, Misato) and three fathers, one of whom he wanted to bang (Gendo, Kaworu/Adam, Kaji).

He had both a mother complex and a father complex, pic related

Something hot, i agree

I remember someone saying he did this to confirm that he was back in the real world or something.

You know what, I envy Shinji.
He was surrounded by friends, he had an interesting and important job, and he had someone who gave him all of her attention even if she didn't really love him. And most important of all, he managed to grow as a character and as a person despite all the stupid shit his parents did to him.

>show clearly states that shinji and asuka love each other without the melodrama of anime but in a real believeable way
>virgins don't get it

>b-but the voice actor said they hate each other

Only virgins would think these two 14 year old characters who only had 5 episodes of interaction with each other love each other

5 episodes =/= 5 days
>implying teenagers don't fall in love with each other like as often as they change socks

not everyone is frigid like you

They actually only knew each other for 2 months, Asuka came in September.

And teenagers are usually too immature to fall in love, it's usually just hormonal lust or crushes.
The former is Asuka and Shinji's relationship to a T. The furthest from love you can get.

Said while kicking down one of the markers explicitly described in the script as placed by Shinji for everybody he knew. Anno changed the end for verisimilitude, basing it on Miyamura's own candid response, but it's still interesting in that it still appears to have occurred.

I can guarantee you that 2 months living together is more than enough for you to fall in love

I can guarantee you that you've never fallen in love

how much time do you think it is needed to fall in love
geez stop being a virgin

I'm not even gonna bother with you guys

You don't need any time at all.
You can even fall in love at first sight like Shinji did.

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that's a crush
asuka is true love

It was platonic

Shinji got tanged by Kaworu, that makes Kaworu his true love.

No, it literally wasn't.

I want to believe.

nice fujo headcannon asshole

kaworu was the same for shinji as an affair but thank god anno didn't go as far as show him sucking dick

Shinjj only loves Kaworu

get over it

Nah, he definitely gave him a quick handy in the baths

He loves him as a friend

Nope.

hell no he didn't
if he did anno woul've shown it

literally printed headcannon

They already did something even lewder than that

He already did it rewatch the show