Can we have an actual debate on the pros and cons of Communism that doesn't end in muh 100 gorrilliom meme

Can we have an actual debate on the pros and cons of Communism that doesn't end in muh 100 gorrilliom meme

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
>Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

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No you are still as retarded as in the last 100 gorrillion "lets talk about this stupid bullshit again" thread

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Failure to solve the economic calculation problem with concrete methodology

Not an argument

An idiotic ideology that believes that everyone is equal, that nature is weaker than nurture, and refuses the concept of responsibility. There's a reason communism has never worked and never will - it rejects inequality, a core tenet of both civilization and humanity itself.

Communism is only relevant now because the kids who should've been picked on growing up (but weren't weren't) want to be edgy and cool too but with social support because they fear being ostracized.

In essence, but there's more economics behind why it doesn't work.

It isn't supposed to be an argument, dipshit. Lol!

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Socialism originates with the ancient Aryan religion of Zoroastrianism. Communism and Marxism are Jewish corruptions of Socialism. These branches exist solely to destabilize and weaken Nations. While the Brotherhood of Man meme is legit (originating with Zoroastrian Socialism), the way by which Marxism/Communism says we can get there is false, which is why Communism has never worked in nearly 200 years since its creation. If you're sincere about Socialism and uniting humanity consider abandoning the Jewish interpretations of Aryan concepts, because I guarantee as much as Jews push Communism to the goyim, Israel will never be a Communist State.

No.

False dichotomy.

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To have a discussion, you need educated people who have arguments and counter-arguments to debate with.

Average IQ on this board is about 80, most people here are also non-white (from Sup Forums meetup photos about 70% are Latino).

>jews are subhumans yet they somehow convinced all of russia to follow them as well as the rest of humanity

Sure, I will give you the simple description of why Communism can never work.

>Either everyone's life is exactly the same, or everyone's life is different.
>If everyone's life is exactly the same, then by definition, everyone's life is the lowest common denominator.
>If everyone's life is different, then there will always be "inequality."

Communism pretends that we can just create a "lowest common denominator" state where everyone is happy and satisfied, without anyone working any harder than the dumbest, weakest child. It is impossible.

There are all sorts of utopian models in sci fi/fantasy literature and all sorts of reasons why none have ever become reality.

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Con: it doesn't work
Pro: it doesn't work

Everyone has a different capacity for labor, therefore it follows the profit of everyone's labor is unequal. Communism, an ideology expressly stated to divide the profit of labor equally among citizens, therefore deprives those advantaged in their capacity for labor of the product of their labor, and compensates those disadvantaged in their capacity for labor beyond their contribution, therefore, if we assume the citizen is entitled to the product of his labor, communism is fundamentally inefficient and immoral. If you're game, I'd love to talk more.

Gtfo kike

Actually a Canadian that's both instructive and funny.

>from Sup Forums meetup photos about 70% are Latino
wow that makes SO much sense

it only works on paper, because people are greedy fucks who would sell their mothers for some shekels

Protip: all Gommunism tried was not real Gommunism! Gommunism for real next time!

a virus can kill a man, doesn't make the virus more valuable than the man.

Pros
>the basic idea behind it
Cons
>it can't survive in a functioning state in a human society because of human nature

Maybe the whites just don't go to dumb Sup Forums meetups that mostly take place in the United States of 56 percent.

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>Can we have an actual debate on the pros and cons of Communism that doesn't end in muh 100 gorrilliom meme
It's Jewish.

Jews are inherently anti-White.

Therefore, Communism is inherently anti-White.

>Not an argument
Neither is the claim that Communism has any "pros."

here it is how it was in eastern europe

dude white Sup Forums users aren't so stupid like those mudpeople to dox themselves voluntarily

>Believes the Holocaust happened
ROTFLMAO!

OP is a faggot but can he solve this? Let's find out.

Talk for yourself greedy fuck

sendme 12 bitcoins ifyou arenot greedy

>Talk for yourself greedy fuck
How much of your income do you re-distribute to other, more deserving people?

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>(((you)))

lol thinking that a communist is working

>lol thinking that a communist is working
Good point.

>look at those people controlling resources and giving you a paltry amount
>you should let us control the resources and give you a paltry amount instead
Notice in both cases there is a central bank

it seems we got a well red man amongst us

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Just because you can't pay off your debts isn't a good reason to throw away capitalism. Communism requires everyone to be altruistic. Some people aren't capable of empathy required for altruistic behavior. Altruism is a logical fallacy because even when you do something helpful anonymously you still get a reward of feeling good because you helped. You might not be greedy for money but you are greedy for that good feeling of helping others. So in the end we are right back the old reliable greed that drives capitalism.

Look att Swedish healthcare and how Long you wait. /thread

Yay! Gommunism!
The true path for any socialist.

>Debate! KEK!

>You know which Communist state succeeded?
>The Next One.

>Get it!, because it wasn't real communism. KEK!

Maybe on but sure as hell not here

The only socialist branch of economics that actually is viable is fascism, but only if you want very minimal real economic growth and high inflation

>"Pfft, Police need to be fired, they are too fascist.
>56%ers arrive
>WTF! HELP ME POLICE

communism: no food
capitalism food
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helicopter rides are too merciful for the communist scum

Kek wills it!

Same colours as McDonalds

No because any commies that come here don't actually want a discussion either
I have tried. They always bitch about meme responses but that's what they crave so they can feel vindicated without discussion
They never respond to legit criticism of the ideological framework
>Historical determinant but for some reason historical always fails
>Is utopian but with no means of getting there beyond relying on the advances of captalistic societies
>Which is partially a contradiction which is one of the biggest things the final stage of communism seeks to avoid
>Metaphysically garbage
>Claims realism and scientific basis but ignores all evidence that has later come against it
>Fundamentally misassigns value
>Has no coherent structure all just experimental
The list goes on and on
Economic problems
>Problem of socialist calculus
>Laws of supply and demand exist regardless of system it cannot be removed just responded to
>Micro and Macro inefficiencies guranteed
>Has not metric of value beyond labor and that's no way of measuring labor value anyways
>Does not adequately address needs of a society, the point of an economy
>Requires post scarcity which is literally impossible
Practical
>Everything about it is impractical in the end
Muh 100 million is valid because if Communism is the inevitable historical outcome, it historically always leading to mass death should be considered

And there is so much more to discuss on every matter
But even this place proves the power and effectiveness of free association enterprise and individuality
It's why memes of higher quality and quantity are created here and lefty memes like all commies try to leach on them

If you're talking about STATE communism:

con: you don't get a choice. are you against consent, op?

Helicopter rides are too merciful for comunist scum

jews control everything. Find something promoting sexual promiscuity or distractions like porn or videogames, or hollywood, as well as the media, banks (especially banks) and leftism in general (don't get me started on communism, Marx lenin trotsky

It's not a meme you dipshit, if you are a communist kys.

Why even vaguely consider an ideology that directly killed atleast 60million people when a similar ideology with 10-20 million associated deaths was completely demonized for decades?
Gommunisms is not a religion.

Don't forget muh 100 gorillion. Thats why u commies are fucked.....

I love Australian humor.

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was lenin redpilled?

Equality doesn't exist.

N A Z B O L
G A N G

Cockshott or who? Computers? Cockshott doesn't follow the argument to its logical conclusion
>While prices can be set to equate supply with demand according to planner's preferences, these preferences cannot themselves be based on an independent calculation of opportunity costs, as reflected in independently determined scarcity prices, since the scarcity prices in use are themselves fixed on the basis of planner’s preferences

Lefties can't into logic

you know most of the bolsheviks were jews right?

helicopter rides are too merciful for the communist scum

Many accounts describe Lenin as a philosemite, and he did tackle and denounce antisemitism once he got in power.

And, I might add, you really couldn't be active in the communist movement around that time if you had huge issues with Jews.

>it might kill millions
>but I think it might be worth trying again
you don't seem like a good natured individual

"Lets have rational arguments w/o looking at it's abysmal failures"
Yeah go fuck yourself commie trash, if this was b8 you must try harder

You can, but this isn't it.
What you need to do is debate the pros and cons of each feature of communism, not the whole thing as a package.