The next Venezuela

You heard it here first, Mexicans are so fucking retarded that they'll elect their own Maduro just to "stick it to Drumpf" and will be the next failed state shithole in Latin America

>inb4 it's already one
Oh sweetie you can't wait to see it

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If that happens im totally sure that the USA will boost a possible balkanization on the region.

His name is AMLO btw

I say good because fuck Mexico

You do know that elections are just a smoke screen in Mexico? Theres is no real democracy here, unless al AMLO is sucking the elites dick he's not going to win.

I literally know nothing about Mexican politics.It sounds like we need to get the wall up in a hurry though before they all try to invade when their country collapses.

With the new energy reform it could happen, all the rich in oil states could push this, since pemex is going to dissapear and oil companies literaly will pay to control then.

Nothing of value would be lost
They're electing a retard leftist because they're mad at Trump. And that's in a country where Bernie would be conservative

I quit going to Mexico 15 years ago. I could literally be in Mexico in about a hour from my beach house but no thanks.

i dont think the struggle will be real. there is no communist party taking over is there. only stupid socialism

Why would anyone go to Mexico?
What do you think PSUV stands for?

>larp flag
>compares mexico with venezuela
>thinks mexicans can elect a dictator

kys OP, stop larping as a latin american politics conoisseour.

>thinks mexicans can elect a dictator
Of course a nigga Rican thinks that's how it works

Establishment niggers are already shilling for the militarization of Mexico, if they manage to establish it, things will continue as they are today

There is no threat of communists you faggot meme flag larper

I hate AMLO, and right now he sounds like a good option compared to the other trash, at least he's willing to try other options to fix the drug issue rather than continuing the stiffest that the war on drugs/cartels has been, it ruined the country in the past 10 years

fucking idiot, show your fucking flag, only a brazilian or mexican hates himself so much and is so much of an ignorant shitead to post like that We receive Venezuelan refugees over here all the time, I know this topic 100%, I watch the news and compare my info with the spoonfed lies. You are just larping in the wrong neighborhood fuckhead.

What would a balkanized Mexico even look like?

Only retards, chairos and south Mexicans (AKA the poorest Mexicans) will vote him

Oh How I'll laugh once you niggers are begging for food and trying to climb the wall to get to the US

It's already balkanized thanks to NAFTA

I'm none of those things and I'm willing to vote for him, he's still a better option than the other trash they're peddling to us

At least Mexico exists as a country, my Spanish friend.

>Being so retarded he thinks dictators straight up say they're dictators and have a shit about being reelected

Why not? That's what Venezuela did. They elected him, and now he is manipulating the votes to stay in power. The company that monitored their elections even left the country over the last election results.

>Implying the cartels would let that happen.

>Catalonia flag

You're a big joke, my man

Show your flag or you're not getting any more you's

>hurrr durr just vote for the same trash that's been running the country into the ground and let them militarize to consolidate their power even more
Kys

mexicanon please explain to this chicano larper how mexico can never become become like Venezuela. He still thinks that Chavez got into power by elections.

The fag thinks people know someone will be a dictator before he gets to power. He's the kind of retard who'd call redpills about PSUV conspiracy theories

Tbh i don't even know how venezuela came to be, last time i checked all latin american countries had a constitution.

Chavez got into power by a fucking coup d' etat, its on the history books by now, you even know the fact the elections were rigged. Why are you trying to say otherwise, no one elected chavez, he had to hack the constitution to stay in power.

Then you're a fucking idiot or morenafag.

He's the worst of the worst and the fact that you think he's a good option means that you aren't aware of what he's proposing

They already elected a Maudro and then killed him. Mexico is a joke of a country.

>The next Venezuela
this statement alone shows how retarded you are and out of touch with (geo)politics

Not him, but what exactly makes him any worse than the others?
All political parties are big jokes, filled with people who only want to steal a lot of money, share it with their relatives and keep their jobs for as long as possible.

I had hope in the independient campaigns, but they're all the same people who used to be in either PRI, PAN or PRD and probably just felt like stealing a little morebefore leaving politics.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_presidential_election,_1998

I know you nigs, you were all still supporting him way after he died. The amount of losers defending him was out of this world

Didn't Pena Nieto already sell out to Obama by allow African migrants to start flooding in?

Find a German emperor to rule you again
Or just vote for whoever campaigns on paying for the wall
If you elect some dildo we will steal his leg like we did whoseits

No, I'm not an idiot nor a supporter of Morena, I actually support small government, legalization of drugs, gun laws that enable citizens to protect themselves, backing out of NAFTA, and the privatization of our resources only for Mexican citizens/companies. We already wasted 20+ years selling out our economic autonomy and shaping our country into a shitty export based economy, we need to recover the lost time.

At first I didn't like AMLO because I realize he's against so many of those things, but I also considered that the other candidates don't support those policies either, and they're a lot of proven thieves.

At least with AMLO we could shake the boat so we start seeing some changes for the better around here, either coming from him, or the upcoming opposition.

Vote for the same trash - get the same results.

GTFO with your morena/chairo/southern memeshit, faggot.

Meme flags don't even know that Mexico has no re-election.

>Mexico has no re-election.
And Venezuela wasn't a Bolivarian república, and bolindios couldn't run for reelection 3 times.

Holy shit, how did no one think of making autocracy and coups illegal before?

Where's your real flag, memer? You're not getting any serious reply until you show it.

He was austrian, and a massive joke.
He could've easily shaped mexico like his european countries, but was too much of a cuck so a 4'5'' mexican manlet became president instead.

Build your wall already, I want to see all your trump supporters tears when you realize he never did anything.

That guy never going to win. Politically Mexico it's utterly divided and it's beyond reparation; basically we have two factions. People who supports AMLO, basically an ex PRI governor of Tabasco and self proclaimed president at least once and former head of the left in Mexico, the PRD. In a nutshell when only his most retarded followers keep with his bullshit he formed a new populist party Morena, taking advantage in the fact that most Mexicans are fervent believers of the Virgin of Guadalupe, also know as the "Virgen Morena". Later as the elections came closer numerous deeds of his associates with the the same vices of all the parties.
The other faction it's the one who currently holds the power and responds to the interests of US. The thing with these people it's the fact that they literally choose the guy only for his looks and every time he opens his mouth he screw it, like it's not even funny anymore.
Both sides say that the other is really evil and that they hold the cure for the nation, pejezombie vs peñabot each one holding the belief that they are right.
The PRI has released his dog, Meade and by the look on things he's the most likely to win the election, basically because the other candidates are memes;
>el bronco, >la señora margarita, >some indigenous women >Anaya and the >peje.

God you're a fucking morenafag, everything you complain about is what Morena has been doing

-He has been the only presidential candidate of the left for the last 18 years and he's known to control everything of Morena an it's candidates by Dedazos and shady procedures, just look at what he did to Monreal

-you complain about politicians giving political seats to their families but I guess you don't fucking know that he gave seats to their sons on Morena as delegates and coordinators of the party

-he was against the 3 de 3 law for a while saying that he shouldn't show them to the citizens, and months later he shows one that was fucking ridiculous (saying that he only earns 50,000 pesos per month and that he has no bank accounts, even when its known that he asks for 200,000 pesos/dollars per conference and that it's very hard or almost impossible to receive that amount of money with out a bank account, also that he only had one house even when the WP exposed him about his other ranch that he had under his son's name even when his son couldn't afford it)

-he has spend over 300 -500 million pesos on his political campaigns and tv ads, if you complain about politicians wasting money then you shouldn't support it

-independent candidacy is the most powerful tool we citizens have, don't be stupid. And funny you complain about them been full of PRI,PAN, PRD even when it's known that Morena is full of them like Bartlett (the author of the 1988 fraud), layda sansores, Batres and his milk with shit (search of it), etc

He's the same if not worst than the others, and let's not talk about his campaign promises.

So what do you propose? Vote for the PRIAN so they can sell what remains of the country to the US, while they hypnotize the sheeple in the country with 10 more years of ever increasing cartel violence in the streets?

>Politically Mexico it's utterly divided and it's beyond reparation
he only needs 30, 40%

>independent candidacy is the most powerful tool we citizens have

I completely agree, however I can't say there's a big chance for any of them to win the presidency.

It'll be PRI vs Morena, whoever gives more Shirts and beans to the people wins, sad but true.
The PRI let go precidency for 8 years and they're not doing it again, I've worked for public organizations and anyone with a decent job in there was most probably hired by a relative. These people are always pushy about telling you who to vote for and gathering people to vote for PRI.

I fucking hate AMLO, i swear I do, but no one will beat PRI at this point.

>Hurr durr your president will turn you to shit
>Hurr durr Cartels control the country
In Mexico there is no democracy, no drug war, nothing out of control. Everything is controlled by (((them))), they fabricate, kill and create a narrative for the country to follow. We got called "The Perfect Dictatorship" for a reason
How melodramatic
PRI or PAN are the best options if you do not want to cut relations with our biggest trading partner
PAN is split in two, let's hope they do not stay that way

Anyways, voting does not do shit. If you blame the government for stealing and then steal yourself you are a hypocrite. If you criticise the senate for not working and then make up excuses for not working yourself you are a hypocrite.
For Mexico to change for good it must do so from the bottom-up, that's something that can't be done by voting but by acting

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fuuuuug I came, fuck southerns

For the foreign people the election in Mexico works in this manner: Being a poor country and the southern states being the poorest, the PRI have tactic, pay the poor and stupid people to vote and go to the candidate rallies, normally you can buy the people with sandwiches and t-shirts and some booze. Some others vote for the alternative and the others don't vote because it's futile. All with the background music to the march of Zacatecas, nice tune if anyone ever catch it. In Mexico we dream in a system such as an electoral college or the secession of the south.

There were a shit ton of protests a few years back, I still think the next generations can still do something. The Wall is coming so you guys don't have a choice, time to overthrow the government

this.
I hope some day when we post from our current geographical position the flag in our post will be different, hopefuly they will look like one of these

AMLO 2018 LA ESPARANZA DE MÉXICO GTFO NARCO GOBIERNO!!!!!!!! NO MÁS PRI-AN

help us to secede from the south and I can guarantee that you will have a pretty comfy and friendly neighbor, also we may need another when we separate from the south, I dont mind being surrounded by walls

Why not Guanajuato? It's a beautiful state

also Queretaro is a beautiful place and we should keep it too

its the natural follow after two decades of shit.

>two decades
you mean 70 years of PRI, 12 years of incompetent PANistas and now PRI again

If I were to choose I'd rather see Morena winning, PRI is already overreaching with all this militarization shit they're trying to pull off, there's really no point in voting for PRI again even if Morena has its faults and some of their policies are retarded.

If the country plunges into chaos thanks to Morena, that's OK, at least it will be better than the slow death and constant violence these PRIAN fucks have in store for us, the sooner this happens, we'll get some real choices.

Why do you want to keep relations with the US? They already made it clear they don't want anything to do with Mexico unless we are willing to whore ourselves out further and take more abuse.

We are getting fucked long term, entering any NAFTA negotiation or similar deal will have the same consequences the old NAFTA did, we'll just keep pumping out maquila babies and cheap goods while losing our political autonomy to US foreign policy, in 15 years another trump will come and tell us to fuck off from nu-NAFTA because they already replaced mexican cheap labor with machines. This goes without saying that the country will be plunged into another retarded bloodbath because we're bonded by trade deals.

We need to bite the bullet and stop relying on the US at some point, we need to kickstart our own wconomic autonomy, we might as well start doing it right now when everyone's moving their pieces on the board.

>Why would anyone go to Mexico?

Cheap shit, cheap alcohol, and sex tourism. Tijuana is worth at least one visit but otherwise that whole nation should be firebombed.

>The Peruvian in his childhood...

No no no, let's keep the whole country together you dumbasses, not one state is better than the others. (except jalisco, nuevo leon and cdmx of course)

We'll eventually grow to be a fucking superpower, i swear

>PRI for 70s years
You had twenty years of unrest before that. Your last semi-stable leader was Diaz.

go and visit other states, honestly Tijuana is ugly, come and visit our natural places, they are extremely beautiful, dont firebomb the territory, it doesnt have any fault.
anyway you should throw some nukes in our capital and surrounding states tho

Mexishit is already a socialist welfare state with thousands of people who would vote for gibs. All petty communist dictators like Chavez are elected because people are easily convinced to vote for what they think is free shit and a bigger paycheck. I’m surprised Mexico hasn’t gotten worse yet, probably propped up by USA. CIA had Mexico listed in like the top 20 of states that were rated to “potentially collapse at any time.” Fucking mestizo trash.

>poison alcohol

Unfortunately it was, and the saddest thing, that by the current textbooks he is considered in a way closer to a villain. When in fact that freemason Juarez planned to the same, only for the fact that they snuffed him.

Stupid americans and canadians too, don't you know how corrupt our vote system is? "PRI" wins every 4 years no matter what, only 2 times they lost to the "PAN" hell almost everyone doesn't give a fuck about going to vote everyone knows the higher ups give no shit and rather waste money on their own maga hats and shirts instead of doing something good like a building, AMLO is never gonna win no matter what because he is not from the PRI or PAN, stupid people that have opinions on something they don't know about.

To my fellow countrymen, do you know what the National Synarchist Union is?

The real problem is Mexico isn't a country. Mestizo vs Indos vs Castizos. That's how people vote, even if the president tries to do something differently.

To be completely fair, PRI stole moderately before PAN came and fucked everything far beyond repair.

believe me, I wish that could happen, but at this point I think we should balkanize, Im northern and the mindset of southerns when it comes to business is awful, they basically dont want to progress economically, or at least is what I feel every time I go down there

That is basically my problem with them, the difference of our skin is no problem to me, I just wish they had an entrepreneur mindset

our best ruler was our Emperador Agustin de Iturbide, anything that came after him were fucking masons that fucked this country up with their fucking dumb democracy, we are not even a republic

And no, not just because we call ourselves Republica Mexicana doesnt make us a real republic, our government is way too big to be republican

take away your stormfaggotry and your comment would have been very accurate

we are not like you, we dont hate each other because our skin color, we are classicists not racists

Separatists are stupid
The only way out of their control is by making ourselves stronger and more self-suficient, not by turning aggressive and an obvious threat to the US. Take from the US what is useful, ditch the rest.
And Yes, if there is a time it is now, but action does not mean electing a president, but by acting ourselves, becoming stronger and more disciplined, making others follow you and form a sense of patriotism, not by dividing and turning ourselves into bite-size states for the US to take
Mexicans need to make new companies and compete against foreign products, exploit our patriotism by making people know that they are helping by consuming mexican products
But most important of all, we have to get rid of the victim mentality that we have
>Is not my fault, the spaniards came and took everything from us, that's why we are like this
>They conquered us
>I have to wait for massa to tell me what to do
We have to shove into these people's minds that mexico was not invaded, the mix of Native and European races and cultures created Mexico
>We were not conquered nor we conquered, we are the "Conquista"
Jobs here are good, tho. The proximity to the US, better prices and such make for a great investor magnet
A friend just made an investigation on them and told me few things A.M.A.

>every 4 years

>our best ruler was our Emperador Agustin de Iturbide
Probably. You are collection of states, much like the US.

>we are not like you, we dont hate each other because our skin color, we are classicists not racists
Then why does everyone shit on the south which is full of Indos?

Well yeah, PAN was the one at fault for the drug was, at least with PRI it was "ok you can pay us to ignore you but please don't go overboard with it ok?" Now this whole drug war is getting calmed because every cartel knows the more they are killing the more heat they bring to themselves and thus harder biznes everywhere.

Our "alabadicimo presidente" is elected every 4 years retard.

Mexicans are honorary spics, but they have to leave my country, and rebuild their's

Yeah indeed that's a good observation, and it's really awing coming from a foreigner, even though that division it's from colonial times anyone who spends a reasonable amount time here will realize it; but now the division come from the amount of money in the top the narcos and political leaders, later the medium class, that the kind of people who fill the void of consumerism and it's basically hollow and later the most of the people, poor unemployed and dependent of the governamental programs, basically our welfare niggers and the the majority of voters.

Your presidential terms are six years.

>2018-2012=4

>That is basically my problem with them, the difference of our skin is no problem to me, I just wish they had an entrepreneur mindset

You must understand the geographical differences between you and them.
The north has a lot of influence from american business and companies, solely because of proximity, you're bound to take something from them.

But the south is close to fucking Guatemala, Belice and El Salvador, a country that had a war because they lost a football match.
We must not eliminate them, but support them.

The central land of mexico is a good example of how any state can grow economically in a couple of years; aguascaliente, queretaro, hidalgo all have hige economic growth in the last decade, not so long ago they were literally who states.

Huh guess im stupid sorry.

Mexico has a lot of 'peasants' that live via the government, the US, charities, ect. The amount of slums in Mexico should be a clear sign that most people there aren't fit to vote.

mexicans, start trying to fix your country or forever hold your peace

But they do.

yeah, Im from Tamaulipas and we are a strategic place with lots of money, sadly I dont understand why most cities in the whole northern border are ugly as fuck, I really hate that

in the same post I stated what was my personal opinion on why the south is shit for me, and at least I have heard the same opinion from many fellow northerns, we dont hate them for being indios, we actually like them because they are very nice and friendly, also the food on the far southern states is god tier, and yes I know there are many bad indios that can decapitate you without hesitation, but they are not even de 2% of the indio population, most of them are so fucking passive in their actions and way of talk that some times I get pissed off because they way too nice, or at least too nice for a northern

PRI installed the soil for the bad weeds to grow; PAN decided to make war to the weeds by fertilizing them

pls die

this guy gets it

I guess you are right, is just stressing some times for someone that want to make business with them

popular democracy is a mistake, thank your founding fathers for giving you the electoral college

aight

Well, yeah, it's one of the inherent problems of democracy and government policy since the post-Diaz period. Almost every president wanted to create this 'noble intellectual farmer' Mexican but that obviously didn't work.

I'm sure is so easy with a population of fat fucks that rather sit and watch futbull and twit from their newest cellphones and got infected with the whole "fight the real fights with #!" a useless gov that hides how much money they really have and openly say what new plans they have to get more money for themselves, endless groups of armed bandits that can dissapear 43 civilians or even more at any second.

be nice to our burger brothers, now say you are sorry

Your an american aren't you?

he is a (you)

If your cock is big enough you could take it all for yourself.

17 cm is big enough?

Implying the USA will let us, implying people will vote for a faggot who said he would pardon narcos. It almost like you think Mexico is governed by Mexicains, and note American(Jewish) interests

Mexicans could take the government back, for us it's almost impossible, but your people still has hope. Once in control just use a Fascist regiment and you'll teach the world how Fascism is the best system

>México will be next Venezuela
Hahahahahahaha, not even a chance in hell being a neighbor of the US. Even if AMLO wins elections, it can decay into being more of a corrupt state than already is but not in same fashion of Venezuela.

So just try to be a real nation next time mijo.

That's not at all true. Early PRI was quite socialist and attempted to do reforms similar to soviet states, like banning religion, socializing healthcare, and appropriating certain commodities and land.
With early I mean pre 50s, the rich peasant was abandoned pretty quick, and we got El Milagro Mexicano, we had growth levels akin those to Japan in the post war eera, then something happened, I don't really know what and everyone blames different things.

I don't support separatism, so in no way I am supporting action to fragment the country into bise-size territories for the US to take.

If anything, you could argue that the country is balkanized economically and politically thanks to NAFTA, see , so if there's any intention of maintaining unity we need to stray away from it. Realistically I don't think the US would take more desert territory away from us with a bunch of cartels and people in them.

Am I reading your post wrong, or do you actually believe staying out of NAFTA will be seen as an aggressive move by the US? I think you already resigned yourself into becoming their temporary fuckdoll for small, short term gains at the expense of the stability and autonomy of the nation, did you know we already spent the equivalent of our entire GDP fighting a retarded drug war for the US? This spending doesn't even include the flight of capital, loss of jobs, people emigrating, and loss of foreign/national investment. This relation we have with the US is simply not healthy for us in the long run.

If we are to become self sufficient we need to cut the umbilical cord from the short gains that come from the US, they come at a very high price for us in the long term. This isn't about being aggressive, playing a victim mentality, or threatening them, it's about choosing what's best for the country.

We're not going to diversify the economy as long as the US is pumping basic necessities and every product under the so'un for cheaper than any mexican can make'

>Im northern and the mindset of southerns when it comes to business is awful, they basically dont want to progress economically, or at least is what I feel every time I go down there
This is true, I have lived in Tijuana for a long time and have become used to it. But when I went to study in Guadalajara I was surprised by the fact that everyone closed because of a festivity at least two days a month (+weekends), that manny places close at 16:00 (they all stick to the 8hr jornada). Strange for someone used to a family that works 16hrs in some days. To be honest, that had the consequence of convincing me that (in most cases) "The poor are poor because they want to"
I am not saying that having no festivals is good, in the contrary
youtube.com/watch?v=q_xJpVlry14
I say that we should develop a "Work Hard; play Hard" work ethic

We are racially divided beyond belief. Also class-divided.
Our schools teach the story of how horny Spaniards lead by the literal devil came to Mexico, raped """us""" and then created Mexico (?)
W have to stop the "Whyte Devil" and the "Stupid indian" Narrative.
If the EZLN has done anything right is to show that Indios are not stupid when they have a clear goal. The gov took their lands, did not let them work on their own and then gave them some aid; turning them into niggers.
On the other side; Cortez was one of the smartest and most interesting people to ever live, he exploited the divide among the native groups to destroy one of the biggest Regional Empires in history.
I already posted it, but I will say it again
>We were not conquered nor we conquered, we are the conquest itself
>I dont understand why most cities in the whole northern border are ugly as fuck, I really hate that
They were built fast and less than 150years ago, then we follower the US' retarded philosophy for City-planing
Porfirian Art-Deco for the win (pic related)

> then something happened, I don't really know what and everyone blames different things.

Kek, you already know the answer to that if you are old enough around here.

I didn't say we're perfect, I'm just saying now is the time for us to take back our countries, and if you guys get on it now while the Jew is weak, we can prosper in our God-given land