This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.
>LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS.
Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking.
Oh look, it's Destroy Dindu December. Make sure to stock up on ammunition, water, and job applications, fellas.
Jack Barnes
Also, post your favourite BASED civic nationalists ITT. Let me start with my personal favourite.
Charles Phillips
bump a lump hump
Tyler Moore
Christmas in the hood, with your stuff making prime second hand gifts. Check those doors, check those windows and the chimneys too. Keep your stuff yours this holiday season.
Carter Perez
Bumping for more narration.
Joseph Scott
libertarian but flies the flag of a failed state. what fucking joke.
Logan Thompson
Checking these trips
Jonathan Bell
libertarian but wants to control other peoples lives...hmmm another joke
Benjamin Cooper
>not grilling chicken on barbed wire over a fire of socialist literature shaking my head, familiar
Jason Anderson
>Social ostracization and exclusion are the same as control. I bet you'd bake that cake too, faggot.
Michael Phillips
We do not deny the importance of race
Carson Baker
Reminder that taxpayers own the state and that fags and minorities are net tax receivers. When I say I want you to be gassed, it's just me exerting my will as the owner of the property you're standing on.
Anthony Wilson
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Juan Richardson
are you a damn dirty capitalist
Lincoln Peterson
actually homosexuals are quite affluent in most cities. check your facts before you pop off.
also, you can want me gassed but you're too much of a faggot to come and try anything.
Thomas Phillips
I have as much of a right to yell at you for being a faggot as you do to ignore me and die of AIDS childless at 40. Guess who benefits from this consensual exchange - at least someone, unlike the long term effects of your daily exchanges of bodily fluids.
Jace Garcia
"Capitalism, on the other hand, is a social system based on the explicit recognition of private property and of nonaggressive, contractual exchanges between private property owners."
Hell yes we are
Luis Price
>I have as much of a right to yell at you for being a faggot as you do to ignore me and die of AIDS childless at 40
me already 40 no kids no aids
you and i have something in common though, you'r mother's filthy pussy juice has been all over us.
Liam Gonzalez
Stop talking like a nigger, you and I both know you just wish you were one. In any case, even if the claim that homosexuals were rich had any merit, it wouldn't necessarily reflect on your consumption of or contribution to state funds, nor on your undoubtedly enormous drain on healthcare related resources. Mobile gassing vans soon, friend.
Ian Nelson
badmouth Dixie once again and I'll stab you with a Bowie knife And before some lolspergtardian libergtine cuck faggot gets his boyfriend's girlfriend's panties in a twist over muh freeze peach - failure to recognise the natural right to secession means the unrecognition of property rights as a whole, thus transforming the claimant to little more than an animal. See pic related.
Ryder Gutierrez
I know, Dravidian D'Souza told me all about you racist liberals. :^)
Dominic Perez
you're just talking out of your raunchy faggot ass. you have ZERO facts to back up anything you claim. i'm going to guess that you're a major fag and about 15 years old. don't little homo, its ok to be gay if that's what you really are, just don't get any ideas when you see my handsome face.
Jordan Anderson
i see why you chose a meme to do your talking for you. Your writing is incoherent now get the fuck outta of my country.
Chase Scott
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had autism.
Ian Murphy
I actually maintain sound bodily hygiene, and cannot make a person nauseous by virtue of fact of them standing downwind from me, unlike your average Occucky Democrat. >inb4 muh banks Central banks and fractional reserve banking is theft legally backed by the government you cherish so much.
Benjamin Cook
Stop c*ssing, this is a semite-on-a-stick-worshipping MeinKampf server.
Sebastian Adams
>Stop c*ssing fuck off
Gavin Moore
>country >your that's a bold fucking claim mate anyway let me just take my memeflag off yeah that's right
Thomas Bennett
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Landon Diaz
>implying libertarians don't support secession and decentralization
Robert White
That's a copout though. All government activity is coercion, theft, etc. in an ancap framework, but you can justify it by showing that it would exist out of a state anyway. Upstanding White property owners would still deal with what are now illegal immigrants, for example. As far as I know there are no ancap nonstate justifications for speculatory finance, but there are also no mechanisms to prevent bank-related kikery.
He's an urbanite, he's not an American.
Parker Gutierrez
We do, it's just that he doesn't. It's okay - politics is a bell curve, and for each libertarian - emphasis on Aryan - there's one faggot like this.
Jason Wilson
Do you support roads?
Evan Lopez
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Dylan Jackson
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Wyatt Murphy
No. Only terrorist need roads.
Justin Thomas
Hey /lrg/, I've got some questions. I'd like some recommend reading or resources. Not sure I'd become a full-blown ancap, but I am interested in minarchism. I am currently closest to a paleoconservative (although I do view certain traditionalist, protective policies of fascism as desirable), because it seems to be the most realistically attainable political system in terms of minimal governance and states' rights. Here are a few of my dilemmas, don't worry - they aren't roads.
1.) The military. How would the military look and operate in a minarchist/ancap society? Would it be privatized? Would each state have its own military, similar to the US under the AoC? Would it be militia-based? How would we prevent foreign militaries with large governments from trampling or interfering with our smaller one?
2.) Society and culture. Let's face it, there are a lot of people in society who would have difficulties in a minarchist society. Don't get me wrong, I hate welfare and I believe in the importance of IQ and its implications on class and status. However, how do we re-educate the population on how to survive without federal oversight and meddling? On top of that, how do we keep the private industry from preying on peoples' vices and degrading culture? How do we prevent advocates of larger, more intrusive government from gaining a foothold, as they have today? This is heavily prevalent in our society and I don't want to make the same mistakes our fathers did.
3.) The Union. Is a minarchist/ancap-oriented society supposed to realistically maintain the continental United States, or are we supposed to balkanize into smaller regions?
4.) Final question, the role of government. Borders? Minimal taxation? Standing military? Trust-busting? What is it?
I'm not a concern-troll, and I have basic answers or presuppositions about these, however I'd like to hear your thoughts. Any recommended reading or listening would be appreciated, I do like Hoppe.
Thanks in advance
Juan Long
>roads? who needs roads?
Sebastian Jenkins
Someone who uses the phrase 'damn dirty capitalist' will probably not be much of a fan of banks
Brody Smith
what you describe is just trade. no sane man has ever questioned that, and if that is all that capitalism was, you would have defined it out of existence, and I would be happy.
my problem is with the means of production being in the hands of a few men so that businessmen are our new princes, with the theory that a pursuit of individual good will somehow result in the common good, and with the obvious moral degradation that has been the price of our newfound wealth
Tyler Stewart
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Bentley Anderson
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Ian Roberts
No, that's why he'd accuse me of being one. Though I can't quite think of an ethical condemnation of usury itself and by itself, in praxis it usually goes hand in hand with fractional reserve banking, so doing the latter would forfeit your claim to the profits made from the former. As far as moral condemnations go, there certainly are more than just a few, in fact historical opinion hasn't been kind to the bankers, and for good reason. The prospect of a ready loan promotes present-orientedness among the general population, whereas in the past this was an issue of rich men on rich men. Furthermore, a bank would have great difficulty establishing itself in any society that has not already seen a great degree of civilisation, and seeing as the kikes like to shill for democracy, they can do away with civilisation quite easily that way. I'm sure Hoppe's Democracy - The God that Failed can give you deeper historical insights, whileas Rothbard's What Has The Government Done To Our Money? offers sufficient information of the proper monetary policy - if you could call it that - of an AnCap private city government or a humongous covenant community.
Kevin Cook
No need to rush in head-first, we wouldn't want to beat Timmy's high score of charred and dismembered feds out of pure anger, would we? 1. The military is handled through contracts signed over a sufficiently numerous population - think a private city, a resource-mining settlement or a farming community. Each will have its defence force tailored to suit its needs, with the soldiers being drawn mainly from the local population because of their strong ties to the community. The main source of income would be donations, or in case of private governments, rent, along with any spoils of war carried home or sold. An invasion is a matter of force, and seeing as there is more attachment between the general population and the security force, there is reason to believe that mounting casualties would force any opposing army to withdraw. 2. Society goes along with the plan until they REALLY don't. See Pierce's infographic. Again, not an AnCap issue, PLUS AnCap creates a feedback loop of itself - really you'd have to read Democrussy, too long to get into here. 3. The right of secession must be cherished as a symbol of liberty. If this means the U.S. will turn into several "states", many city monarchies, and even more independent homesteads in the countryside, that's a plus - besides, the idea of America is more than just a country - it's the blood and soil of the American nation. Both would remain - not an issue. 4. The government's only role, if it is to exist at all (spoiler: it really shouldn't), is to approximate the actions of a market actor in everything from conflict resolution to border protection. Great questions, have a good one.
Dominic Murphy
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Hunter Thompson
Thank you. Do you have any recommended readings? I'm chugging through Atlas Shrugged at the moment, taking it all with a grain of salt.
Ryan Rivera
>Whole milk What a faggot, the true übermensch would use buttermilk.
Colton Diaz
Don't bother, Ayn Rand is mostly a meme and not even properly a libertarian in the first place. I'd recommend Anatomy of the State by Rothbard and The Law by Bastiat, both short books outlining our stance in brief terms, for more elaborate stuff try Ethics of Liberty by Rothbard (make sure to get the PDF off of Mises Institute, Hoppe's clarification helps) and Democracy - The God that Failed by Hoppe, as well as his shorter works like What Must Be Done and speeches for the Property and Freedom Association, most notably the latest one, where he speaks quite favourably of paleocon race-realist figures like Taki or Jared Taylor. The invite to our private chatroom server is in the OP post if you wish to discuss these ideas in greater length.
