How do I find the strength to live? How do I give up my resentment towards existence? I think I believe in God...

How do I find the strength to live? How do I give up my resentment towards existence? I think I believe in God, and natural law, but I don't know what to do with this information.
> inb4 go to Church
While I appreciate the community and social order that the Church provides, I cannot bring myself to believe in the dogmas and doctrines of Catholicism.

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>strength to live

hahahahaha. no. it's harder to die, to set yourself into a permanent fixture upon this earth. such a task is a thousand, a million times harder than being blown across the land like a leaf in the wind.

step 1

dont be such a faggot

step 2

pull yourself together jesus christ, how old are you, grandpa didnt have this problem did he?

From your picture, I take it you're Jewish?

It's not about dogma
It's about belief in the fact there is something beyond yourself in which you participate
Dogma is just the price you pay to play the game of belonging to something bigger than you, and the reward is not being nihilistic and having something to live for

I've unironically wanted to kms since I was 16. 22 now. I've tried going to psychologists, (kind of) tried lifting/red pill shit, going to church, nothing seems to help. Studying math and philosophy are the only things I really enjoy doing, but those aren't exactly great activities to bond with people over. I've always been somewhat beta, but I've really withdrawn from the world since being on Sup Forums
No, I'm Anglo.

>I cannot bring myself to believe in the dogmas and doctrines of Catholicism.

You might at least watch the lives of the saints, one common thing about them is they believe that suffering is a must if we are to live for Christ because He too suffered until death. Your ancestors didn't won if they didn't endured suffering, we are becoming a weak generation who constantly whines about everything and wanting frivolous lives with lots of women, cars, mansions etc.
Watch a Catholic priest tell you HOW TO BE A MAN or at least to raise your child as one:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7V1W967ofA

How about you dedicate 1 year of your life traveling just so you can see how easy faggots born in a gold cradle like you have it in this life, yet you are the whinniest of them all.

Seriously, go to Mexico, central america, Perú, Colombia, see for yourself the shitholes people have to deal with yet they are fucking happy and try their best despite the adversities.

Or go to Europe, move that flappy useless ass of yours and see the world and how lucky you are in comparison to most of the poor sons of bitches out there.

If you still feel like a homo, shoot yourself and stop stealing oxigen from the ones that have the will and drive to keep going.

K. I've never really enjoyed being alive. Maybe I'll travel to South America and an hero there.
> projecting
Who said anything about wanting a frivolous life? I am angry and frustrated at God and his stupid, confusing book and corrupt and entirely human Church. Bunch of bronze age fairy tales and unverifiable ramblings from soft-handed scribes. The theology is stupid too.
> Here's all these laws and commands
> U will be majorly fucked if you break any of these1!1
> Lol jk I was just waiting for Jesus to show up and handwave everything away even though that was never part of the original deal
> PS here's an entirely new religion that is actually a lot like European paganism but is totally what I meant to happen and not at all a human construction
And the scientists and archaeologists say there is very little evidence for what is written in the Bible. If God really wanted to show himself, he wouldn't entrust his revelation to a bunch of scrolls where we can't even view the originals. Bunch of horseshit. I don't want to be a man. I don't want anything to do with this society. I wouldn't mind if everything burned down, or if we do get taken over by Muslims. Fuck it. At least then I can lay down and die.

this seems like a good moment to talk about Strasserian National Socialism! its like National Socialism but with no radical views on ethnic purges, and combining elements of the fascist ethno state dream of mussolini. user you can be part of the nazsoc gang, don't fall for that nazi larping B shit. Challenge yourself, there is no other enemy than yourself. If you feel there is nothing else to lose then try some new, there is nothing to lose, and then ask yourself at that present moment if you start to feel a flow of higher energy flowing through your body.

There's lots of ideals to dedicate oneself towards. I am asking why pick any of them.

>If God really wanted to show himself

What can you offer God to show Himself, He as a God who created everything, to you? You but a mere speck of dust in the vast universe He created? Who are you anyway and what have you contributed to the betterment of the world?
Remember most saints have seen God Jesus or at least His servants because they were worthy living in chastity and charity. And here comes you, a canadian poster on a mongolian basket weaving forum who probably isn't married, have kids and devoutly goes to church. Who are you?

God's spokesmen say He demands my worship and devotion. I stick out my fist. I never asked to be born and I resent Being for that reason. If you lose a game, that is one thing; you chose to play. You could have chosen not to play if you didn't want to run the risk of losing. But I had no choice to be here. This prison of flesh was foisted upon me and I am forbidden from leaving. Why should I render praise and worship to a tyrant?

Move out of that hellhole first.
You have an idiot running the country that knows less about economics than Mugabe. It's going to collapse soon and you'll be trapped there.

reject cuckianity, accept natural law.

make some friends, make contacts, the movement will grow in canada and eventually we'll take over the government.

then we can start fixing things. don't worry, it will happen. just take it slow.

>Why should I render praise and worship to a tyrant?

You live in Canada, a first world country. You probably eat more than 3 times a day, have a roof when it rains, sweater when its cold. An internet connection, a phone and computer. Yet you whine like a tyrant, who upon sitting long in his throne while holding fried chicken with an oiled mouth screams at his servant. Funny that poor people appreciates one meal a day and thanks God for that, yet you are very spoiled. You're the very definition of what the video talks about.

Because you will not pick it user, try to understand how you are being discovered by it. Like a calling or a message that you wrote for yourself without knowing, lifting your spirit at your darkest moment; no one will offer a hand other than yourself, and once you raise you will know you belong to the gang of pride, and you will see the world differently, with the rest of the boys at your side.

Find it through entertainment. watch a bunch of shows that you'll genuinely enjoy. Spend more time with friends. If you don't have any just look for people who have similar views like yours(whatever they may be). Basically distract yourself with something fun whether it's video games,weeb shit, or socializing.

You think I care about food and drink? Food is dust in my mouth. I sleep and awake with no rest. I would rather have a corner of a roof and a crust to eat and worship a God who actually made sense. Instead He (in his infinite wisdom!) leaves us with a shitty book and the mouths of the manipulative priests and prophets! The God of the philosophers, the God of the mathematicians; that is a God who is worthy of praise, a cold and brilliant mind that is worthy of worship.

>no radical views on ethnic purges
>see flag
color me surprised.
Your shit is about as genuine as "if you have to be a nationalist goy, try civic-nationalism, not that filthy dirty white-nationalism thing".

The Germans were right.

Arbeit macht frei.

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I feel it is better to find the strength to die. Knock some bitch up. Shit out some kids. A plan a kamikaze mission that will have some good results for the cause.

user please, I would really appreciate if you do not bring the typical banter on my contemporary beliefs, this user needs comfy support don't be such a french about it, seriously, thanks.

>worship a God who actually made sense

Do you read the bible everyday? Do you read the Church father's teachings? The revelations to saints? Catholicism actually makes a lot of sense and connection to each other but requires devout time to study, study and study. Surely, a white man must not whine when he is needed to study. Get off this sewer website and read an actual book.

Try putting on a face. Smile everyday and go through the motions of life. Give yourself 2 weeks of that and see if it helps. Just push it and try to actually convince yourself that you are happy. It's hard but it actually worked for me before!
Also stop reading right now. The rest of this post is only for me to just get it off my chest.
This is so fucking strange.
For the last 6 months this is exactly how I feel. It's like my life it's over.
Logically I know that I have a 50/50 chance to be someone in life but I also know from experience that no matter how hard I try (and I try and work my ads off and force a smile and "I'm awesome attitude) I will most likely not achieve anything.
It's learned helplessness and, again, I know it...but I can't do anything about it.
Thinking of dying just seems so comfortable.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I'm not crying and do not regret my life. I'm just tired of all of the responsibility and hard work and no results.
I'm kind of ready to check out.

You need a purpose m8.


Get a job, and put everything you have into succeeding at that job.

Then find a girl and make babies.


Our ancestors were out killing mammoths fucking bitches and warring with rival tribes. You are not alone in feeling out of place in this existence.. But if you start succeeding you will find happiness.

Your days are numbered beaner

I fuck your mother, sister, wife and daughter on a daily basis.

White sluts love the aztlan dick like it's fucking McDonald's

Sounds like you need to stop being such a little bitch. You're 22. Shit sucks now. Maybe it wont suck later. Furthermore, all religions are false. God may or may not be real, but there's no way to prove it and it will never answer your prayers with anything beyond vague coincidences. Grow the fuck up kid.

While I appreciate the /comfy support/ Costa Ricanon, I am just very frustrated. Sometimes I wish I could just turn my brain off and be a Christian, but how on earth could I be a part of a group who dogmatically claim to know the truth? It just offends and baffles and even angers me. I was raised in a very conservative Protestant home, and was raised to believe things that I know for a fact are lies. Being lied to at that level is worse than being cheated on. I hate organized religion now.
And the Muslims say the same about the Quran, and the Jews say the same about the Talmud, etc, etc. I'm sick of poring over old books, trying to rationalize away the cognitive dissonance. Here's a simpler solution: God exists and all organized religion is social control. I only ever cared about truth, and all I got was disappointment and appeals to axioms.
I kept reading past the second line, sorry. Sometimes I think about suicide. It is strangely comforting, probably because my brain recognizes a way out of the learned helplessness.
Go fuck yourself you wrinkled old cunt. Nobody wants your opinion.

OP, it sounds like you're lacking a purpose. It's not always about faking your way into religion. It's about believing in something greater than yourself and putting yourself forward to engage with it. Faith is often misunderstood to be predisposed beyond your will, but without engaging in it yourself you cannot realistically foster a purpose in life to motivate you.

The first step is getting your ass out of that forbidden shithole. The longer you stay, the more you will suppressed from ever fulfilling a purpose. Everyone living there hates you, the idea of you, and will always afford ways to keep you second rate to liberal lemmings. That is, unless you find your purpose in life is to uncuck your country, in which you harbor the will and persistence to be the next Trump 2.0.

You dont have to be a Christian then, its about your self spirituality, have you considered reading Zen stuff, authors like Osho? he is very "westerner oriented" and zen overall is very easy to read and understand. It literally says no one is right about nothing, to forget about self-righteousness and learn to have a state of awe, like rediscovering you r amazement for everyday things. I really recommend for you to at least check "zen" and related terms on wikipedia at least. Best wishes canukanon, and note that I felt like you before, I0m not illuminated or anything but I'm glad to have been able to find weird anonymous worldwide wackos cheering me up with for no reason; that is very inspiring if you think about it.

>I cannot bring myself to believe in the dogmas and doctrines of Catholicism.
>clearly a Ben Stiller atheist
Just shoot up a mall or something. Remember to yell Allahu Akbar as you do it.

Bonus points for Facebook live.

The problem I have with religion is the fact that you have to put logic aside at some point and believe instead of know or understand.
I can't do it.
I wish I could.

K, my bad m8, didn't got that one right.
Considering that it's exactly the kind of shit they would say, I couldn't see the difference.

Yes, exactly. Aristotle's God, the God of the philosophers, the God of the mathematicians isn't dependent upon some old book written in a language you don't understand and interpreted a million ways til Tuesday. Unfortunately, doctrines and dogmas and rituals bind communities together much more effectively than math and philosophy. Too bad.

>Phd Physics candidate fag

Take it from someone who put religion aside and focused on existential data to descern beliefs. At some point you simply have to realize, to "have faith", that the world we live in is too perfect. It's almost as if it were intentionally put here, by someone or something, explicitly for us to exist. I'll tell you that most physicists I know are believers because they basically have to be if for no other reason than idealistic logic disfavors divine interference with the universe. Most physicists aren't like the ones you see on tv -- they're not spokepersons for science, but rather proponents of practical application. You would probably do well to discuss this subject with them if you get the chance.

>Considering that it's exactly the kind of shit they would say, I couldn't see the difference.
I know, I have a long way ahead to improve my speech lol.

Well leaf user, while you think 16-22 is a long time, you have hardly lived at all. So you are looking to throw away something you have yet to really do because the tiny portion you have live did not excite you. Everything in life comes through 1.) intention and 2.) persistence. Set your mind to what you want and then stay the course. I'm in a pretty shitty place right now, so I feel more like you do at the moment. I have won and lost many times in my life. All I can say is winning comes when I set my mind to something and do it, misery comes when I do not (or I give up too soon).

eventually you'll just stop caring and live. i don't believe in God or anything (not even the "self" or "ego" - both are the reason why you are unhappy) but i do appreciate being alive. there's ultimately no reason or purpose for us other than our parents had sex. doesn't matter what we do, eventually one day everything humanity itself does will be erased from existence, no matter what.

a trillion years from now our earth, solar system, and every thing we've done will be gone. find comfort in the fact that nothing ever mattered in the first place.

And I would probably absolutely love it.
My only regret in life is not going into physics desu
It's not a big regret but a regret nonetheless.
I did hear a rumors like these about physicists and always wondered why is that.
What are of physics are we talking about?

Religion's main purpose is to bind and control societies in my humble opinion.
And that's great and all, but monotheistic religions with daddy in the sky make no sense to me.
There are some religions though that I may consider getting to know better because on the surface they are more logical.
I was raised as Catholic and know the religion very well so I of course see the absurd when I see it.
The other religions (or belief systems rather) on the surface look ok.
I'm afraid though that they are ridden with the same problems and only my ignorance is keeping me from noticing it.

I think most all of them were agnostic at some point, and then later fell into a crisis that only religion could explain. For me, it was understanding the constants of the universe and what made them so special. If any one of them were tweaked even a little the world as we know it would collapse as catastrophic fallout resulted from their unit value offset equilibrium. For instance, if the gravitational constant was rounded to the nearest 10 millions decimal the earth would have either fallen into the sun's furnace or drifted outwards into the frozen abyss of space. If the electron charge was changed the electrorepulsing forces that keep you from falling straight through the floor would be insufficient to keep your atoms from mixing with the atoms beneath you. It's a marvel that the unit value of these constants are held at such an unthinkable measure of precision that it offers us the essentials for life to exist. You could call that coincidence. But the odds of that happening are mathematically impossible. It begs for an alternate explanation, and when you look at it from that ledge perhaps the old cliches that have held consistent narrative over thousands of years offer some truth to the world. Then you realize there has to be a point to all of this, and thus a purpose in life is established.

I appreciate the effort post, burger-kun. My main quarrel right now is with the Bible, and the Church. I believe that there is a God as the classical philosophers described him; 'actus purus' pure actuality, the ground of Being, the One, the Absolute, etc. But the Bible is confounding and frustrating and the Church even more so, so I end up believing in God, but it doesn't impact my life very much.

Arbeiten machen der Leben suss.

From what I read though there are problems with constants when they are being measured ie: the measured value differs from the constant.
Even the gravity or a speed of light.
I understand that the instruments are not perfect but averaging measurements of gravity over, let's say 10 years should give us, more or less, a constant and it doesn't.
I'm ignorant of course here, but isn't it that we created some of the constants for we need the theories to work. And the theories do work and predict things that they are supposed to predict even though some of the constants are not exactly constants?
I'm not questioning your info here btw. I'm just really curious.
I do believe that there are things in this universe that are seriously hard to explain and that there are numbers that are just super conveniently perfect....but, from little I know, I gather that some of it may be a confirmation bias.

Now I envy you lol
I cannot imagine a being like God existing.
Well let me rephrase that: I don't believe that it's possible for the being like that to exist and love us.
Because to a being like God we and everything else would be very insignificant. Like an ant farm of sorts.

If you're interested, read up on the difference between classical theism and theistic personalism, because they are very different.

My leafy Friend left me tell you as I've told most on these threads, become your own Absurd Hero. Learn and read as much as possible get your health and diet in order and make them pay for how (((They))) made you feel in fact get in such order that you are above everyone and everything that put you in this place in life to begin with.

-Rock on and Praise KEK Brother

Theistic personalism is worse than theism. It creates more need for believing that this godperson knows what he is doing, while theist just tell you that the God being is so much that you literally can't understand him....while at the same time claiming some kind of a degree of maximum love for us.
They both force you to take the leap of faith at some point.
And I may be able to believe that some being from the 10th dimension created this 3d universe to amuse itself. But all this love and sacrificing sons/avatars? Nope.
Logically impossible.
In theism and theistic personalism.