I need all your info and redpills about Nazbols, Sup Forums

I need all your info and redpills about Nazbols, Sup Forums.

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*reads dugin once*

they're retards.

commies who hate jews, are smart enough to realize that countries need boarders and a national identity but still not smart enough to economic

so a "nazibol" is a fusion of national socialism and bolshevism? quaint, i guess, without a doubt destined to the same irrelevant dustbin along with the million anarcho schools of thought. european peoples and sovereignty are top priorities now, not snowflake political/economic ideology.

double cancer

Another name for failure.

NazBols are commies in the same way Nazis are commies, so they are only commies from a radical right wing perspective. NazBols are racist and isolationists and allow third positionist views like a liberal axis but without welfare leaching and without private banks. Any other question beyond this point?

won't ever get any legs outside the internet lmao. this isn't the 1900s anymore, boyo. it's trilby tier.

It can basically mean fucking anything.

Sounds like the core tenets of orthodox National Socialism.

Socially right, fiscally left.

What the fuck is the difference?

most nationalist movements are heavily anti-capitalist. And in fact anti-capitalism is the proven method for nationalism gaining support

Solzhenitsyn never said the quote "Without Jews there would never have been Bolshevism..."

it is not socially right. It is only racist and nationalistic. Socially it can be whatever you want. Tho its most likely left wing as Nazbols typically read postmodern stuff

>What the fuck is the difference?
muh edges

As you said, it's textbook Strasserism.

you are absolutely right user, NazBol is just a paleo predecessor of third positionist politics; which happen to perfectly fit the 21ist century and identitarian politics like strasserism, neo fascism, or what we like to call unified politics, maybe you have a lot to read now kiddo. I was literally answering the question from OPl, but for you I can school you on the politics of the new century, Croatanon.

nationalist movements will only take off in the unique character of their nation's working class. no one is going to widely declare themselves fucking bolsheviks, or care to read or support a platform by "bolshevik thinkers". not out of russia anyway.

destined to be poor, fascist/natsoc economics is not communism

>armchair intellectualizing
cute, but has no grasp of reality.

If you're already here then you don't need to hide behind NazBol.
It's literally just for cowards that don't want to drop Jewish Bolshevism or fly a swastika or fascist symbol.
NazBol's don't actually make any arguments they just steal ideas from other ideologies and awkwardly try to mash them together.
Literally radical centrism.

Sounds like a good attack term for the antifas

it's honestly just pointless further splintering of ideology. it's like anarchism being broken up into 1,000 different schools of thought. it's no good for anything other than circle jerking online with a handful of other trilby wearing fags.

It's literally just retarded twitter faggots rn acting superior to NatSocs for no reason. It's nothing significant, totally restrained to these few idiots and their few followers (lilnazbol for instance). Won't make a dent culturally.

Can someone tell me if Nazbol Gang is a real thing? They seem to show up in threads in packs and they post memes about being part of a secret gang to control both Sup Forums and /leftypol/ from the shadows

Its the same thing, just a different name, nazbols would be perfectly fine going under different names.

>lack of vision
>criticized me before for being "trapped in the past"
>Implies that 3rd pos politics do not work
>literally denying 3rd pos politics is being trapped in the past

Whatever user, I'm not your dad, teacher nor your saviour to make you see the light of unified politics. But you literally contradicted yourself just to cover you ego like a dog hiding his tale...its okay, unlike the "red pill", the uni pill is not for everyone.

No they are just nationalists with strong anti-cap sentiment. They dont fly swastika because lots of people who like capitalism fly the swastika

As far as I can tell, they're Stalinists with a half-joking Mayakovski meets Belyaev-Gintovt aesthetic. That is to say, the retro-futurist aesthetic of the precursors to the totalitarian regimes that would ultimately repress such striking and frankly iconoclastic imagery.

Because, remember, any militant regime quickly becomes staunchly traditionalist once entrenched in power, because that is how it propagates its power and ensures its continued existence. The discordant death-worship of these precursor types are antithetical to legitimacy in the eyes of the mainstream citizen. Look at how Codreanu was quietly swept aside and killed by his erstwhile benefactors.

In short, its all very exciting as an aesthetic, and is more legitimately transgressive as an ideology and demeanor and style than the pseudo """punk""" affectations of the terminally retrograde champagne socialists found in self-styled punk clubs. But as a truly long-term ideology, it's inherently self-annihilating, being the most useful of idiots. That said, Death in June is pretty sweet.

so then there's literally no point to it, and it's essentially like pointlessly forking software into a 100 different derivatives. just sounds like a snowflake ideology you declare yourself to your friends to look impressive.

see
There is no real attachment to the imagery, its just a placeholder until proper nationalist movements that hate capitalism arrive

see

>this naive

what a timeline to be alive and understanding what the NazBol fuckery is. Okay user, niceguy tip: NazBol is literally half meme, half an actual movement, to troll any far radical extreme of the quadrant, so you can call the nazbol gang the "horseshoe police" at the top of the horseshoe.

oof

you are a shitcunt for posting this

>they're Stalinists
pretty much yea

What the fuck? Then why did one of the Nazbols post this at me

costa rican dude is a lying shit. Nazbol does in fact control Sup Forums from the shadows by slowly turning nazis anti-capitalist and spread anti-cap sentiment

Are you on Twitter?

Sure mate, sure, that is exactly what the NazBols want you to believe, go ahead and ask a communist what do they think of stalin, then ask a commie what do they think of a NazBol, you know nothing Juan Snow

they like to joke that they're better or smarter because they have one foot in the right, and another foot in the left. they're the enlightened centrist of extremist fringe groups

Am I lying, or am I one of the ones being lied to or confused by them?

No cultural misunderstanding here - it's fascism, simple. Stalinism was nationalized as an ideology to the point it now serves as a platform for Russian palingenetic ultranationalism.

How

Also, beyond any fuckery: some people really pissed Lauren Southern, and YES she got mad like when a woman gets mad and she felt betrayed and humiliated and if you have seen an increase of shilling is because some of you "pilled" her into it; I unironically liked how things were before, but it is too obvious to me she is the one teaming up with the leftypols to rek this place, Sup Forums has created a monster, the NazBol gang was a meme like month ago, I loved to larp as NazBol and piss the hell of everyone but now for some reason they took it serious..,.this is too good to be real. Respects for you Lauren-Donnoh.

Ever been to former East Germany? A lot of commies hate immigrants, muslims, jew, not because they made a 360 and found that Hitler was "right", but because they miss the good ol' days of DDR communism which was free of "western degeneracy".

only they know

by posting about how capitalism is inherently anti-nationalist they turn right wingers against capitalism and in turn grow their numbers

National Socialism is a dead meme and Nazbol sounds fucking corny, seriously? nazball? AnarchoCommunism is the only way to the future of politics.

you are the live laugh love of political ideologies.

>AnarchoCommunism is the only way to the future of politics
heh

They shroud themselves in so many layers of irony I can't even tell what the fuck they actually believe. I'm guessing they're either commies or nazis memeing to piss the other group off.

This thread has been very informative

I get your point but that is very russian related and you have more knowledge about how russians are than me. Simply put: Classical commies advocate for marx and trotsky mostly, almost no one is that stupid to apologize for stalin, and Nazbols use words like "bolshevik" and the hammer and the sickle, but literally spitting on marx's and stalin's graves just to piss commies and stormies alike. Its the embodiment of russian post-modernist liberalism. Its considered a meme by many since it allows variations based on context. Anyways lets all agree Stalin was an idiot okay?

Well shit i fucking knew it ->

WE

WUZ

NAZIS

AN SHEEEEEIT!

He's a lying shit. He doesnt understand or know whats actually happening. Also all costa ricans need to be gassed

They're nazis, no confusion here. They believe that a state should have ethnic groups living separately in different cantons, making the classic racial segregationist argument. That's why that valley girl sounding alt-right faggot loves them.

that's actually a reasonable model for countries like america. not european ones though. i'm for gassing every shitskin from gypsies to armenians who step into my land.

And you get long knifed again you subversive faggots. Nobody here wants anything to do with your cancer. Stick to Twitter.

>Nazbol does in fact control Sup Forums from the shadows by slowly turning nazis anti-capitalist and spread anti-cap sentiment
Imagine huffing this much gas.

As far as I'm aware, they just advocate for socialism inside a single nation. There's nothing at all ethno nationalist about national Bolshevism

Stop this stupid meme. National "Socialism" was fiscally far-right

>Black
>sees the "commie" symbol
>reads the NazBol gang are not simply commies
>somewhere gets mixed up
>assumes NazBols are nazis, because panthers hate nazis

see? see? GANG! based AF, memeing so hard it actually become part of the movent: To troll them all. Dayuuuummm.

The strange bit is that the purely Russian variant has this component of "Eurasian" fetishism, an odd blend of Orientalist cosmopolitanism with flashes of ultra-conservative obsession with 'true Russian folk character'.

It's simultaneously adopting inherently opposing viewpoints, and doing so intentionally. IF anything, I think the sneering, creeping spread comes from this being a darker, truer mirror to the half-assed PostModernism of contemporary society. "Stirner laughs madly in his blind alley," to borrow from Camus, and I think they revel in the discord. There's an inherent destructiveness with only the vaguest of ideologies behind it, a deconstruction of even the disorder of anarchic black-clad mobs.

I've come to think they're nihilists, and adopt quasi-authoritarian, militant attitudes because they disdain even the formalism of chaos. Although the basic tenants seem to overlap with Strasserists and other "Extreme Centrists", there is a world of difference between Richard Spencer and Douglas Pearce.

The more I think about it, the quintessential moment is Death in June walking through a crowd in Tel Aviv, somberly drumming, while they waved Israeli flags. The band wore SS camo while doing this.

A NazBol is a Stalinist who's had enough of hearing Jews literally bragging about having Stalin assassinated because he wanted to send the Jews to Siberia

>nazis were left wing
why does this always trigger the commie?

There's actually some value to doing that.
If you can splinter your ideology enough to appeal to every niche then if one of those gains traction you can all coalesce behind it to make it a prominent political position.
We've seen this with Democratic Socialism for example. The overwhelming majority of Socialist or Communist ideologies are at odds with Democratic Socialism but this doesn't effect their ability to come together in supporting it.
NazBol is just them attempting to create a brand of Bolshevik leftism that can appeal to Nationalists which is why it's so schizophrenic because Bolshevik leftism is an ideology which exists in opposition to any nationalist ideology.

Nazbol == Communism

>They believe that a state should have ethnic groups living separately in different cantons, making the classic racial segregationist argument. That's why that valley girl sounding alt-right faggot loves them.
If you alt-right types help us overthrow the government, I personally would be cool with letting you have your boring white ethno state in Wyoming or wherever.

If Strasser would have lead the nazi party instead of Hitler, socialism would be even more of a taboo today. This guy was an still a insidious racist, german supremacist, totalitarian - but he believed that "capitalism was ebil". He even inspired the white supremacist organization "White Aryan Resistance" led by Tom Metzger.

>Bolshevism =/= communism
>NazBol =/= bolshevism
>Nazbol =/= communism
>This user = brainlet

>nazi
>are commies
Okay rabbi

>the Bolsheviks were founded by Vladimir Lenin and Alexander Bogdanov
>Bogdanov

Is this the secret to NazBol?

More like Nazbog

>thinking fascism and communism are the same thing
Boomers are the worst

This is literally the only only instance where you'll ever see me actually agree with a commie. The ONLY instance, you fucking retard. That alone should tell you that we share practically nothing in common.

read this user,because I remember your shilling from before in my nazbol threads, If you think by just having the word "bolshevik" that makes the NazBols literal Bolsheviks and thus literal Commies then you must understand you are not very bright and you are a stormfag stereotype that accuses anything he doesnt understand of being a "jewie commie trick" (also only source is the wiki page...). Boommmm! see see? do you see? GANG!

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What an absolute cuck.

>I am a suppoter of blacks
stopped reading there. fuck this clown. can literally anyone just support nationalist ideas without cucking on people i couldn't careless about. the squalor of the shitskin needs to be removed from our psyches moving forward. enough of european interfering with the mudraces, leave the dark skins to their own devices and lets move on already.

You goddamned brainlet, read again "nazbols are commies in the same way nazis are commies" ...so let me explain this complicated riddle for you; it is an analogy of how the far right will see both movements as "lefties" but in the end not really knowing what they were talking about. user if you don't get irony maybe Sup Forums is not your thing.

Prove him wrong Ivan

lol, great meme there, but unfortunately: Original bolsheviks =/= NazBols.

take your meme flag off, mutt. most of us would rather live in poverty for hundreds years with our own people than be replaced by turks and other shitskins under the thumb of Jews.

Maybe ask your shitty government to stop raping and pillaging Middle Eastern countries like Iraq, Libya, and Syria, if you don't want people from those countries to flee to your country? Have you ever thought that maybe if your country didn't help make life in those countries unlivable, there wouldn't be any refugees in the first place?

This is exactly what Dugin is talking about when he talks about the degenerate nature of White civilization. It's like if I burn down my neighborhood, and then complain when all those people seek refuge in my house, the only house left standing.

Nazbols are OBSESSED with niggers. Dugin's protege Eduard Limonov (founder of now banned Russian National Bolshevik Party) dedicated an entire chapter of his autobiography to sucking a nigger's cock. The book is called "Этo я, Эдичкa", it was published in 1979.

its okay to be a nigger, user. What is your point?

your fire will rise again, brother.
how about we do things on our own terms without a single thought paid to shitskins? if we could enact militarized borders like Israel and shoot the muds when they try to cross the issue is moot.

how accurate is this?

>the purely Russian variant has this component of "Eurasian" fetishism, an odd blend of Orientalist cosmopolitanism with flashes of ultra-conservative obsession with 'true Russian folk character'.

That's because nazbols are not for the expansion of Russia as a pure nation state in the Lebensraum sense, where you ethnically cleansed whole areas for the "aryan race" to live. They drew their inspiration from imperial Russia, meaning different ethnic groups living in the same empire, of course under Russian supremacy. Empires didn't exterminate whole ethnic groups to thrive, they just empowered locals who collaborated with them - this same approach was also implemented by the Soviet Union; you invade a country and prop-up commie parties loyal to the Kremlin. That's why they view Stalinism as a continuum of great Russian chauvinism, it contained what the Tsars already did, territorial expansion set under centralized control.

the red pill is the soviet union collapsed because socialism kills all incentive for one to work hard.

> Ignore the shills OP and look at my funny starving slav memes! #NationalBolshevism !!!!!!11!

I agree it's not, I'm simply asking why it often triggers commies so much. it's amusing

makes sense to me within current context, shall take, danke!

legit nazbol are commies that understand nation is the fundation, but still fail to see communism as inherently flawed and destructive for the nation.
A bit like ancaps, who eventually grow into state-caps when they finally understand that the problem with the state was leftism all along.
Those are extremely rare
The reality is that most are just either leftards trying to shill leftism through a lefty lense and deluding themselves (as usual) it will fly, or lefties who have been bullied enough either by us, or are having enough of being self-hating but still trying to negotiate and compromise with their past.
While the first is ok and shows potential, the second is trash, and the third is meh.
This is part of the whole mental disease that will in the near future be known as Tumblrism/Snowflakism, for being the pendant in politics of what trigender neutrois squirrelkins are to genders.
I'm sure an English speaker can formulate what I said in a more articulate and digestible manner, and it could be usefull, but that's the idea, and showing it openly could really help in purging these cunts in the same manner a good number of the gender faggots were kink-shamed out of their stupidity.

>muh horseshoe
even more retarded than the already over-simplifying 2-axis political compass bullshit.
only lefties could push for something that dense.

>imblying leftists aren't buttmad about it too

>lefties are butthurt about it
>they keep pushing it
>they also support taking it up the arse
>lefties confirmed again for self-hating maso pigs
like pottery

NazBol is communism for fashy goys.

That's literally all it is, it doesn't care about class cooperation (or basic economic realities) or any immaterial aspects of nationalism (such as racial and national destiny, religion, Tradition and tradition).
It's literally
>ayy fuck the rich ooga booga bix nood gibs me dat mufhugga but lets still have boarders n shieet
the """ideology"""
It's trash, it can't come anywhere near National Socialism or any other fascist ideology.

Most of the """NazBol""" fags here are just leftypol shills, in fact NazBol and Strasserism are flags you can choose on leftypol.

>they keep pushing it
They don't though. The whole retarded "theory" implies that leftists are the same as nazis.
They obviously don't think that.
The only people who push it are enlightened thinkers such as the sceptics™ and classical liberals™

>they don't tough
oh, so they mean we're the ones pushing for that?
because we're not, and the only retards I've seen doing it are lefties trying to shoehorn their crap and bidding their time.
>skeptics and classical liberals
so, crypto-lefties and lefty-plants?

told ya mate, nobody but a lefty does that, the leftist beast is just trying to put its shit on hold by using a false equivalency.
They understand that their shit is so *openly* radioactive right now, and try to use that as a final measure for the time being, in the hopes to resurface later.
Seems familiar with what I've been told about the US: liberals drove US-based "progressives" (ie: cultural-marxists) out of their land and back into academia (but didn't finish the job because of (((reasons))), seemingly).