All the Isekai shows are mainly characterized by dumb MCs that don't really do much...

All the Isekai shows are mainly characterized by dumb MCs that don't really do much. If you ended up in the KonoSuba world what would you feasibily do?no rape

Live a comfy life away from harm.

End up in multiple horrible scenarios due to stupidity, while having to clean it all up.

Take a cool-ass power of my liking not a dumb goddes. Something among the lines of authority of sloth or selim bradley's shadow things would do fine.

Probably ask for the ability to have a job system ala FFV.

Why does this genre almost always involve a NEET loser?

Even if you look outside the scope of Isekai, a large number of protagonists in action mangas are losers. Is the author self-inserting?

Most of the people who watch anime/read manga aren't exactly mr popular outgoing cool guy, user

I will pick proper cheat so i can levelling like a generic overpowered mc. The rest is easy mode.

Kazuma does start trying to port earth tech to fantasy australia, though the lack of detailed knowledge means he's doing improv like using mana to power his version of a kotatsu.

Like that minotaur dude in overlord.

>introduce a bunch of modern shit
>introduce the gun
>become new warlord

He does at least manage to successfully invent a lighter.

I'd call that a win.

is he lit on fire by it afterward?

No, he mass produces them and sells them as a consumable convenience item to make money.

Before he introduced lighters starting a fire without someone who knew at least basic fire magic was quite difficult to do (I mean, have you ever tried to start a fire with nothing but flint and steel?).

That's the difference between Konosuba and other Isekai. In any other series if the protagonist were to introduce modern tech it would be something stupid like a gun or something, in Konosuba Kazuma just makes a bunch of basic convenience items to sell to adventurers to make a profit.

>In any other series if the protagonist were to introduce modern tech it would be something stupid like a gun or something.
Or maybe the idea was already implemented, perhaps even magically. I get it.

Worship Aqua-Sama
Join Axis Cult
Destroy eris church
Convert the crimson demon
Force the kingdom to make Axis the state religion.

1. Learn explosion magic.
2. ???
3. EXPLOSION

That's just a lot of recent anime in general. If you look at isekai from the 90s and earlier then you'd find protagonists that closely follow the trends from those eras as well.

Author trying to write an MC the audience can relate to

Peter Parker

This

All in the name of Aqua

I disagree Log horizon, SAO and Overlord all have MC's who seem to be the only character with any agency in their own settings.

>actually thinking gun in the world of magic worth anything
lol

He's never been a loser, he was just a nerd who was the target of a single bully.

Gwen liked him before the powers and MJ liked him while he still pretended to be just a nerd.

Felicia was the first one who genuinely wanted to ride the spider-dick.

the strongest magic is explosion, which is basically a small bomb

a gun would be the strongest projectile, not as flashy as a big beam, but capable of killing almost anything in the most practical way, accessible to everyone even low levels

found the muslims.

jihad is no good ok?

Ask for for x4 experience and to go beyond the level cap if there is one. After I hit a certain point I'd probably just settle down somewhere after getting rich off of quests.

Sorry, you got the wrong extremist group.
Aquas Vult!

>pick a huge cheese of a gift like leveling up stupid fast or become a jedi or some shit
>die like a fucking dipshit
at least I would meet Eris

>implying you know how to build modern shit

Aqua a nigger

Why not wish for the power to respawn like in a videogame?

They could give you an "amulet of rewind" that will let you wake up again if you die someday, as if that day had not happened, more likely by sending your memories to yourself back in time, so you may re-live those steps and avoid disaster.

It would be practically, plot armor.

>small bomb
>small

that would mean I become a huge faggot main character, even worse, I couldn't even kill myself to escape being a huge faggot main character

>4x experience

What a shitty gift. I'd ask for a infinite skillpoints.

>go beyond level cap
I already have infinite skill points.

I feel like anything I could realistically try to do would already have been implemented by somebody else already.

A lot of the time the shit MCs do to pretend to be geniuses is pretty straightforward, and everyone is being made an idiot to facilitate this.

Like take pic related for example, the first thing he does is to point out that the reason there is a food shortage in the kingdom is because all the farmers stopped growing consumable food and started growing cotton instead to cash in on the textile industry boom.

And some how nobody noticed that and the people in charge just thought there must have been a poor harvest.


But MC notices, because he is a cool nihilistic realist Japanese highschool educated boy with the cheat power to multi track drift in his head.

Holy shit that front page looks like [Insert Generic SAO LN Frontpage here]

How did he do that?
The modern lighter is invented after someone discovered a special alloy in 1903.
There were hundreds of years of industrial and technological development that was put into something as simple as a lighter.

Either dumb edgy protagonist and dumb world
Or smart edgy protagonist and dumb world

Build up harem and knock everyone up.

Craft skill

I just want a smart MC without magic innovating in the isekai
Watch as he develop farming techniques and machinery.
Watch as he try to make gunpowder
Watch as he experiment alloys

He substituted the parts that were beyond the technology of the setting with magic materials if I'm remembering correctly.

It was hardly a massive revolution that changed the world though, just a small convenience item that was only useful to adventurers who didn't have access to a mage who knew the 'Tinder' spell.

You have to remember that this is a comedy series. In this same series a nation destroying super-weapon of unprecedented technological advancement was made by someone who had no idea about anything, the schematics for which were the remains of a spider he squished with a book.

To put it simply, don't think too hard about anything that happens in this series, none of it is even remotely serious or realistic.

The MC actually spends all his time doing paperwork and playing IRL Civilization.

Reality is often unrealistic though.
Those sorts of things aren't even that crazy considering the odd shit that has happened for real, not counting the magic.

>He substituted the parts that were beyond the technology of the setting with magic materials if I'm remembering correctly.
>It was hardly a massive revolution that changed the world though, just a small convenience item that was only useful to adventurers who didn't have access to a mage who knew the 'Tinder' spell.
I feel as though if all the conditions existed to do so i.e. the materials existed, some adventurer would already have done it, if the demand for such a thing is there, unless he was lucky enough to show up when the magic material was only recently discovered and all its applications not yet explored. Becaus the human race is basically a giant server farm, discoveries where the conditions exist for them to be made tend to be made before long, hence you get all these incidents where two or three people make the same discovery independently of each other around the same time IRL.

i would pick something like charisma +10 or something equal to that
start the national socialist party, with the knowledge of modern political manipulation and how to motivate people i would re-make the reich and persuade the world that manlets and cucks are the jews and they needed to be gassed.
with (approximate) knowledge of modern inventions i would persuade the population that i was the messiah sent from the heavens to give them salvation and become god emperor.

Inventions don't just appear out of nowhere.

I would wish to receive a 'Manual of infinite magic + 1', eventually become a lich and expand the world's magic knowledge

Self inserts sell. That's why we need more feMCs to also self insert.

Become a butcher who happens to have the hobby of dismembering people at night.

>Why does this genre almost always involve a NEET loser?

You know very well why. I'll give you a hint: it's a marketing strategy.

Level up

No, but there are a LOT of people out there with the knowledge and education to conceive of and design something like a lighter, and the motivation to do so.

>All the Isekai shows are mainly characterized by dumb MCs that don't really do much.
Death March which is next big Isekai anime, is the opposite. For once level headed mature acting mc.

>Not self inserting as female bitch classmate who becomes edgy and joins the dark side

In fantasy world where you have magic, people just wouldn't give a shit.

Except that, if there is a market for a lighter, that means not having access to firelighting magic is a very real inconvenience, that someone would have tried to solve by now. People tend to figure out ways to minimize their own work.

>characterized by dumb MCs
Kazuma isn't dumb hes just surrounded by idiots

>KonoSuba
>no rape
I lost already. How am I supposed to contain myself when Darkness wants a nice brutal rape and Aqua keeps flashing Dat Ass™

On a serious note, the reason why MC in KonoSuba doesn't do much is because he fucked up by bringing Aqua with him.
>Pros: Can heal, Dat Ass™
>Cons: Useless, dumb as shit, keeps generating debt
That debt keeps MC from progressing.

We're talking about adventurers here, not particularly intelligent people and eventually high level ones just get magicians or spells to get fire.

>Character is bad in a lot of things
>Sup Forums says is a loser
>Character is pretty good in a lot of things
>Sup Forums says is a fucking gary stu

I still have no idea why you people watch anime if you hate it that much.

Leave the starter area, unlike all the noobs we have seen so far.

Seriously the town is supposed to be where new adventurers start off yet we have not seen anything remotely close to them making any progress to leave. Even when they gained wealth they still ended up just buying a manor in the shitty starter town and got complacent.

this.
Aqua is depressingly dumb and shitty with money.
between the non existent Int and luck scores, shes a walking disaster waiting to happen.

>We're talking about adventurers here, not particularly intelligent people
So adventurers are the only people who need convenient nonmagical ways to light fires? So adventurers are significantly less intelligent than the population average? So intelligent people are naturally unadventurous?

>eventually high level ones just get magicians or spells to get fire.
I'm sure the high level ones are vastly outnumbered by lowbies.

Succubbus brothel.
Nice and peaceful town.
Succubbus brothel
Rewarding quests.
Succubbus brothel.

If I didn't get a cheat item and I'm sent as is I'd just die, that world is brutal and unforgiving.

>using magic which costs MP and also drains stamina to cast a shitty fire spell just to light some sticks on fire
>using a lighter
I know which one is more convenient.

probably would still end up using magic just to feel like a bad ass

largely thanks to the people that were sent over

You raise some very valid points, but 1,3 and 5 sold it to me. I wouldn't leave the starter area either knowing this.

That world is plenty dangerous on it's own with things like Rookie killers making even grinding in low level towns perilous.

I would've asked my gift to manipulate the borders between fiction and reality.

Start a world war.

Become a psychologist as that's what I was trained for. People in fantasy/medieval times fighting monsters are bound to be fucked up so business should be good for me.

Go away Maribel and stop trying to invade the moon.

But that's just cheating
It's just like that LN where the MC doesn't have magic and wanted guns, so he built modern guns with magic metal.

I would ask to be born with maxed stats.
After that I can manage everything else with little effort since I would be perfect.

He's in it for the money, cheating isn't inherently wrong if the result is good and useful.

Arifureta is chuuni trash, never bring it up again.

It's disappointing anyway just like how GATE went from the premise of fantasy LOGH to generic harem + JSDF wank

The difference is that the entire thing essentially just amounts to a gag about how lazy Kazuma is.

It's fine in this case because it's a comedy series and rather than being a major plot point the inventions Kazuma makes are just things he's doing so he can laze around at home like the hikiNEET that he is and not have to go on adventures (which ultimately doesn't work because his party of problem children drag him into things anyway).

It's probably still cheating but he put points in crafting and just tried to replicate the basic concept, it doesn't really go beyond simple items I think.

In the end it's mainly just used to make him stinking rich and so he can laze around the mansion all day like a lazy bastard.

But gun-ota was fun.

Would most likely die trying to be a Rune Lancer.

What if human stats capped at 1?

is GATE Isekai when the MC is commanding the army and is probably not even a virgin?

Most transplants picked useful cheats so they wouldn't exactly need to scrape by selling patents.

That's a pretty good optical illusion.

Do dumb shit.
Different world. Same me.

Most isekai mostly has non-virgin MC though.

Obviously my first wish is for a body like Saitama, after that I can practically do whatever since I'm already stronger than the Demon King. One punch anything, I can mad hop across village to village, anything really.

Also I can't be hurt. Heck I can destroy and shape landscape with my punch. :^)

>no rape

Drain all my energy in the succubus shop

Most adventurers form parties anyway, those who don't made fire the hard way.

Think of it like the guy who sold kerosene, sure candles existed before that, but if a better method exists, that too affordably, why wouldn't people take it?

Too bad no matter what Aqua does, she just isn't sexy. But Darkness clearly can't be raped. She wants it, she needs it, and oh lawdy lemme give it to her as hard as X gon' give it to ya

Considering its a cult of brainwashed scammer, Axis = Scientology confirmed.

Enjoy all the 2d girls i never had

>Is the author self-inserting?
The author of KonoSuba is a chick, so probably not in this case.

So is this show going to get a third season because at this rate they haven't done shit and do people really take this as a serious show? I honestly thought this was a comedy show