>Palestinians

How come Achmeds and Lefties pretend they have a more legitimate claim even though they are mongrels like Western Jews (in the Palerat case, having Negro and Arabian blood)? And how come Achmeds chimpout over the Jews ruling it when they don't have a more legitimate claim either

Because Israel's very existence is the most humiliating thing to ever happen to the Arab world. The entire combined force of it couldn't even defeat a few hundred thousand Jewish farmers. And it wasn't like they were travelling long distances, they literally border them. As for Jerusalem, the fact that Jews control one of their holy cities and they literally can't do anything about it enrages the Arabs.

If only the Ottomans were still around I guess?

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Why does Iran chimp out the most over Palestine and Jerusalem? Their diaspora internet warriors keep telling me they aren’t Arabs?

Hezbollah are shiites is why.

The fact that Palestinian Muslims are more closely related to Palestinian Jews than Palestinian Jews are to Ashkenazi Jews tells you everything about how legitimate the historical Jewish claim on Israel (spoiler: not very).

Hezbollah didn’t exist in 1979

because you're bluepilled that's why, it's not about religion, fuck religion, it's about humanity, Israel never defeated arabs, it's Britain + France + USA who defeated arabs. their intel agencies joined all the infirmations they have and gave them to Israel, along with the most modern weapons at the time.

Because they were already on the land when europeans with 1/128 jewish ancestry were given their land without their consent.

>their land
It was British land, it belonged to white Europeans at that point

They aren't Arab, but they're an anti-Western Muslim theocracy, so they mostly hate Israel for being Jewish and western-backed.

>How come Achmeds and Lefties pretend they have a more legitimate claim even though they are mongrels like Western Jews
It's not about legitimate claims, it's about not kicking people out of their homes just because you made a new country around them.

kys retard

Wrong, british conquered it. The land belongs to the ones who live in it.

Because they want to be the big boy in the middle east and Israel and Saudi Arabia are ruining it for them

There was no Palestinian nation while the the area was under Ottoman rule, is that correct? So when did Palestinian national identity arise? Was there a group of people that actually saw themselves as Palestinians at that time or were they just Egyptians/Jordanians/etc living in Ottoman Syria?

So the Arab landowners who legally and willingly sold their land to the Jews during the 30's and 40's?

No greater proof that God is dead

Palestinians are simply linguistically Arabs from the area called Palestine. Palestine is as much "artificial" as Jordan is, or Iraq, or Kuwait, or quite literally any Arab country.

The fact is that it doesn't matter, because Jews still kicked out those people from their lands, using paramilitary groups among other methods. It is quite inexcusable, but it happened, and it succeeded, so the Arabs should suck it up and focus on the development of their countries. Shit won't happen though, and it's not hard to imagine why.

Since when do individuals have the right to sell parts of their country territory to another country?

Ottoman empire collapse was honestly the worst thing to happen to the MENA since the mongols

Since Palestine was a feudal shithole in the early 20th century

>Since when do individuals have the right to sell parts of their country territory to another country?
Palestine wasn't a country in the proper sense of the word. It was just a British territory.

The Ottomans didn't exactly do any favors to the region, apart from keeping it under wraps.

Things might've improved for the better had the Ottomans been stable until the 50's, that oil would've been better spent on the region rather than to fuel proxy wars.

More likely the empire would become a petro-state like the states in the region today are.

Besides, I think a stable Ottoman empire in the age of nationalism is an impossibility. Even had the westerners not cut it up, guys like Iran and the Saudis would be more than willing and able to undermine them.

>Arab-Israeli War
>Yom Kippur War
>Cold War in the MENA
>not historical events
Take your own advice.

Literally only boomercons support Israel

Like half of Eastern Europe belongs to Germans, then?

boomers from the middle east fought every war in the last 4 decades against them pleb. The rest turned a blind eye

>they're the SAME brits and nazis
mad krauts and muslims go great together. Both whine and when they start something they get murdered

They’re more pro Palestinian than they are anti Israeli, and the anti Israeli comes from being pro Palestinian. Jews are the best treated religious minority in Iran.

Iran is more anti-American than anti-Western, it enjoys a more or less friendly relationship with most European nationalist parties

Would the Al-Sauds have even won if the Ottomans were still around?

Even thats mostly a cultural quirk, all the "death to America" shit just means they don't like it, Iranian cab drivers will scream about death to traffic, death to red lights, death to fucking anything that inconveniences them really

I imagine they'd be around in some for or another, even is Saudi Arabia as we know it doesn't.

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No, I've just had the misfortune of getting Iranian cab drivers giving me their life story and hearing them call death on anything and everything from fare evaders they've had to their kids for not getting jobs

Where are you faggots from

And tbqh I don't care u just was the mudslimes dead or driven out to the arctic

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