> thrown out of Republican Party for views on Israel > loses conservatard "activist" job for edgy humor > bullied out of college > thrown out of IE for being unable to express criticism in a productive manner > Spencer & NPI consider him a non-factor because he countersignals alt-right figures so often while using Boomer-tier talking points > no other activist group will touch him because of his unnecessary pursuit of the optics debate long after it had ended > Milo cancelled an interview with him last minute > McCarthy won't work with him because of his unnecessary, personal attacks > Millennial Woes disinvites him from Christmas stream > all ethots are abandoning ship after he autistically endorsed misogyny (even when most of them would be OK with patriarchy) > tried to get on Cernovich/PJW's shows but neither of them were interested > now James Allsup is calling him out for claiming to be an expert on women while also being an incel who lives in his parents' basement
Has anyone ever blown their credibility more than Fuentes in the last couple of days? It's almost like trying to enhance your percieved credibilty by attacking your allies isn't a viable long term strategy. Pretty tough to build a movement with no friends!
I watch his stream all the time. He is never wrong. The fact that so many people counter-signal him means he is woke and needs to be #shutdown
Cooper Walker
It's pretty weird because they guy says he browses Sup Forums all the time. If he did he would know this has been a /leftypol/ subversion for quite some while and now the guy just jumped head first into the MGTOW and /leftypol/nazbol crowd
Evan Bennett
Probably the dumbest thing he's done is go full misogynist because it cements him as fringe tier wackjob
Also this faggot lives with his parents
Kayden Ross
And here you are, talking about him, you absolute dumbfuck.
Logan Rogers
Eh, he's usually right. Once he's older more people will follow him. He does need to start fucking a bitch though.
Noah Miller
Nick imagines he can become the leader that everyone champions behind while leaving everyone else behind. It's amazing he has such an ego when the people he is attacking gets over 20 times more viewers.
Ian Torres
I....it was j...just a joke!
Lucas Bell
He's smart but either immature or a fed. Being against women because of the thot-patrol meme is pretty autistic.
Angel Evans
NJF is better than all the LS and James Allsup crew *because of* the reasons you listed.. and this is coming from an agnostic NatSoc. He's got a sense of humor which goes a long way in politics.
Ian Jenkins
>fuentes Hola amigos mios aqui esta mi 56% face let's make America grande again cien por ciento american concervative values and pills rojas.
Lincoln Rodriguez
It's almost as if he's being rejected by a cabal.
Noah Howard
He's not against women. He just doesn't think they belong in politics. Can't say I disagree. He shouldn't have stirred so much shit though. He can be too abrasive with his truth.
Blake Rogers
where the fuck do most 19 year olds live?! LS lives off gibs and while engaging in sex tourism with non whites. stay in your lane.
Jaxon Turner
>He just doesn't think they belong in politics. Then he doesn't want to win.
Grayson Reed
> thrown out of Republican Party for views on Israel
Source on this?
Adrian Williams
I agree with that sentiment as well. You need to speak like a Jew if you are going to be anti-waminz.
Jacob Price
Why are you pretending you are pro-white while spreading memes by literal anti-white nazbol cunts? Can you explain that?
Jonathan Gutierrez
I guess they were right about him after all. A shame, the guy had (probably still has) so much potential to become an eventual political powerhouse, but he is fucking it all up by collecting tons of baggage already with that big mouth of his.
Xavier Ward
I don't think he's telling them to get out of politics though. Why can't he just have an opinion people disagree with? From what I understand he's disappointed with the ethots who defended their past degeneracy rather than acknowledging it as such. He's not saying all women need to get out of politics.
Levi Bailey
this Fed meme needs to stop, he's not nuanced enough on political issues to be a fed, he's pretty newfag tier on most Sup Forums tier talking points (keep in mind he got redpilled in his senior year) and his strongest area is in philosophy. He's just immature because he's young, like a lot of other people in the movement
Ethan Thomas
What exactly did he say? any sources?
Aiden Ward
He's not fucking anything up imo. Some people just don't like what he says. I'll still support him.
Nolan Bennett
These are all good things. Is this you Nick?
Parker Gomez
> He just doesn't think they belong in politics.
Well when he can make our message reach millions of people in a persuasive way then he can try to drive them out. Until then, these women play a very important role in spreading our ideas to places they otherwise wouldn't travel.
Attacking a women with an audience of millions who stays 95% on message over petty is not a productive use of time. Look at Spencer's exchange with Lauren Southern over Canada and the US being white countries if you want a model for how to debate these women when they go astray without coming off like a complete sperg.
Aiden Flores
Are Nick and James legit feuding? Is there show going to end?
Cooper Sanchez
>and this is coming from an agnostic NatSoc Thank you for your input, internet authority.
Dominic Martinez
He's pretty open about his criticism of other figures in the alt-right. There's a lot of room for disagreement in our ciricles, but when you take every dispute public and then start making personal attacks or strawmanning, people just stop wanting to work with you.
Sebastian Myers
>memes LS literally admitted she fucked a half black. (I happen to know it was for 2 years and he dumped her). I don't care if it was the devil himself that brought the truth to light.. you have to accept it's the truth. A NazBol is much less dangerous to white interests than a race traitor who has talked more shit about white men than anyone.
Nicholas Cook
Hahaha. Could you be any more of a beta orbiter?
Jaxon Myers
What is he 12? GTFO.
Jaxon Torres
There he is! The holy Finnknight!
Carter Stewart
this. He calls people faggots too much on livestreams because he thinks no one is watching. He's digging his own grave by doing it and I really wish he wouldn't
Jonathan Murphy
No that's a meme, they've always disagreed over issues. Last week it was tax policy and now it's about women
Connor Wright
When did james call him out?
Also, Nick is way more talented than James, he's immature, but he'll grow what he needs to be if he keeps going.
Anthony Young
Never heard of him.
Isaiah Perry
it was in reference to NJF being a bible thumper.. that I can overlook that aspect because his other points are spot on
Hudson Watson
Can you imagine the arrogance of this autist?
I actually started this thread as a way to bully him back into the fold but at this point I think we need to wish him fond farewell.
Gavin Roberts
>I don't think he's telling them to get out of politics though. Yeah he has softened his message a bit yesterday. But when the McCarthy shit happened he was basically full on MGTOW saying they should just be having kids and not be in the movement. He was basically parroting Roosh.
My main problem is that he just fucking joined in the midst of a /leftypol/nazbol shilling action. He could have been talking about how "women shouldn't be lying about being trad when they're not"; which is now basically his final say on it(alot softer than what he was saying a few days ago), but he shouldn't have teamed up with obvious enemies such as MGTOWs and the nazbol kids.
I agree with him, these women need to stop pretending they're trads if they aren't. I agree that there is a problem that traditionalism is the exception with these "tradhots", instead of the Tara McCarthy being the exception. But just because /leftypol/, nazbol and MGTOWs also agree on this, doesn't make them our friends.
Josiah Cox
Apparently you do not even understand what "meme" means. More proof you are a newfag.
>A NazBol is much less dangerous to white interests than a race traitor who has talked more shit about white men than anyone.
So why are you not attacking Richard Spencer, Andrew Anglin, Millennial Woes, Mike Enoch and Ryan Faulk? Why are you concentrating your energy on Lauren? Is it because you leftist kikes know that women have a lot of power and you can't stand any women standing with us?
Cameron Nguyen
>LS literally admitted she fucked a half black wrong
Matthew Carter
How is white not a made up concept kek
Use European
Caleb Diaz
Nah, they're just having some bantz. They disagree on this but I doubt it's an actual feud.
Jaxon Campbell
are spanish people with muslim blood still european?
Parker Nelson
This kid is a faggot and if he wants to box in Chicago or the surrounding area id love to, I'm a similar build but a couple inches taller. Nick if you're in here we can set it up buddy.
Ryder Phillips
Why are you Americans listening to a Mexican's opinion on WN politics?
Jose Ward
spotted the nigger
Nicholas Torres
LS also sleeps with trannies
Jackson Harris
Yeah that was pretty dumb of him. He shouldn't really be pushing hard with any of this being as young and inexperienced as he is with women. He needs to focus his energy on giving good commentary instead of fanning flames.
Kayden Reed
>Nick Fuentes becomes the greatest archetype of Sup Forums >like clockwork the shills get to dismantling him on all fronts Destiny? James the butthurt Indo-Chinese faggot, failed as a chad, failed as a normies, uses Nick's phrases but doesn't like Nick. This. He has never been wrong on anything. He has different tiers for everything. This is why Spencer doesn't like him because Spencer is a far imaging quasi-Socialist idealist, whereas Nick is at the ground level pushing for not only metaphysical consciousness among whites, but also physical action via political activism, infiltrating the GOP, undermining the Libertarians, Democrats, and (((Conservatives))). Low tier Republicans don't like him because he is too metapolitical and has unacceptable views on Israel, Judaism, and Race. Conservathots don't like him because he holds them to the same standards that we do. The only point where Nick diverges from us is in his view of trying to make Alt-Right a big tent, so that we can attack the things about people we don't like but also understand that they are valuable to the movement.
Benjamin Bell
He's probably the smartest guy in the alt-right though, he's been right about basically everything... Except this.
Jose Robinson
Yes, and its better than using "white" haha
Jose Collins
Wow, big talk for a manlet.
Justin Collins
Is kicking out ethots actually good optics? I emotionally enjoy because I am basically mgtow tier in the current environment. For the guys who go on about optics constantly I don't see how this is good politics.
Camden Barnes
White nationalism is because race and nation are not the same thing. They differ in scale, massively. Race is so large and sometimes difficult to define that it is larger than civilization. Japan and China, same race, different civilization. And there are multiple nations without civilizations. Nation is ethnic, and that is a subset of a race, and nations can be allied for racial reasons, but racial nationalism is a contradiction in terms.
Caleb Martinez
>implying humor isn't what got us where we are This. LS and James Allsup, PJW, FG, etc can all feed you the "right opinions" but Nick can actually tell you why they are correct and why he holds them, and I'm not talking about personal preference. >Finnknight Not wrong tho
Isaiah White
this is a joke right?! >there are pics of her with the half black guy she admitted she """""dated""""" >I talked to her a while ago and she told me she dated a bleached guy (insinuating it was sex because I mentioned "sex with non whites").
Elijah Wright
He's just exposing the right for being the fruads they are. >thrown out for not being jew lover >loses job for free speech >gay fag milo distances himself >ethots abandoning ship. BEWARE THE TRADTHOT
As usual the alt right proves they're nothing more than a bunch of shuckster kikes in it for the shekels. Trathots on youtube "HEHEHE HERE'S A GENERIC TALKING POINT I KNOW YOU WILL EAT UP LIKE THE GOOD LITTLE DOG YOU ARE NOW GIVE ME SHEKELS".
Even hard core leftists aren't as disgusting as some of these fucks. And the true patriots who want to get things back on the right track like Fuentes get shit on. Why? Because he isn't a fucking kike loving whore/fag shill.
Benjamin Peterson
*within civilizations
Tyler Clark
what did he say to be seen as "misogynist"?
Aaron Jenkins
At a certain point, being "smart' with no social fluency isn't useful anymore. You can have the 100% Pure Bavarian phenotype of ideas and optics but none of it will matter if all you do is talk shit on youtube.
Fuentes made his bones by attacking figures on the alt-right while contributing nothing in the way of IRL organizing and activism. It's coming back to haunt him.
Benjamin Mitchell
Yes, the purity spiral is retarded. Caucasians with roots from Europe are European. Excludes Jews and Gypsies who are originally from the Levant and India respectively.
Brody Ross
Richard is really insecure about anyone becoming popular in alt rightish circles who doesn't kiss his ass.
Xavier Hughes
Nick seems like a good kid. OP is some kind of faggot. Hey, OP, stop acting like a woman and speak to him directly if you have a problem. This attempt at character assassination is bitch tier.
Chase Evans
I have not seen evidence nor do I care at this point.. once a race traitor, always a traitor
Adrian Reed
she has never publically admitted to fucking a half black. i dont care about your (((private))) conversations.i dont give a shit about her in the first place and wish she would shut up and start a family but theres no point in lying and alienating people
Oliver Harris
Spic Fuentes is going to either leave or kicked from white nationalism. He'll reform into some sort of catho-nat trumpism that will be comprised of deus vulters, spics, and edgy incels mgtow types. Truly a formidable coalition
Adrian Lewis
I can't tell if you were saying all that gibberish ironically or not.
Colton White
I begining to wonder if male virginity is a problem. Being a non-virgin I have an personal understanding of women that is complemented by the data. I can confirm a lot about there nature is 100% true, but if you lead them well they can be good. If someone doesn't have that experience I can see how you can go overboard with things
Brody Nguyen
He literally endorsed misogy last night
Jack Reyes
Fuck optics, it's just stupid all around. Thots serve a strategic purpose. If you want to see momentum shift then having attractive popularizers isn't bad. If they betray their audience or their 'principles' or whatever once they hit it big there will be many willing replacements waiting in the wings. There's no real downside.
Easton Phillips
I used to like him, but all he does is shit on everyone 24/7 often very hypocritically. He also talks about 'chad' nationalism when he's short, lives with his mom, and is skinny.
Dylan Gray
just making sure. my girlfriend is more white than nicholas fuentes but people constantly say on here anything less than 1% white isnt white so im still not sure
Liam Parker
explain pls, people say everything is misoginy?
Nolan Watson
No it's not. Holding them to a higher standard is but kicking them out would most likely just kill the movement.
There is a reason why MGTOW haven't done shit for all these years, they have no mainstream appeal.
Nick is a big brained nibba that have been doing his show for one year and he has 6k subscribers. A random mildly attractive female can make a video on white genocide and she'll have 15k subscribers in a few weeks. Women are needed for the normies.
In the end Nick is basically right, if we go by his more recent stance on the "tradthots" but the guy fucked himself by aligning himself with nazbol and MGTOWs.
I mean did anyone watch his latest stream on bitcoin, all the does now is namedrop a bunch of irrelevant twitter personalities. This is his clique now.
Josiah Sullivan
What a huge list. They're basically setting him up as the new, youth Donald Trump. And I approve.
Angel Cox
>personal attacks or strawmanning He has done none of those things. Nick brings serious criticism to the table, you have to pick through the satire though, that is why he is literally the physical manifestation of Sup Forums. None of his critiques of Spencer are illegitimate. You can't infiltrate modern American politics if you wave a Nazi flag around and do the Roman salute. Do what's pragmatic, Spencer isn't pragmatic, and it really makes you think why is doing these things? Is he just a retard? >people just stop wanting to work with you They don't want to work because they are as thinskinned as the people they criticize. Nick has scathing banter, no one can match him. The Alt-Right needs to return to its roots, stop being so serious about everything. Jews control everything, Humor is the greatest threat to them because it disarms them entirely.
Ian Russell
I've only seen a few of his stuff, namely his appearance on Molymeme's show. He seemed well informed and smart but I'm not surprised he's making bad decisions. He was pretty young to start doing this. I think that about a lot of these people though. There's so much to learn in the world people 25 and below are just not going to be erudite and experienced enough to be thought leaders.
Leo Smith
He shouldnt qaste his time on the dying husk of the usa slave of Jewa should focus on improving spain who arent marked at birth like cattle by jews
I don't care if you don't care, and fuck evidence, here's proof
Xavier Bennett
>t. Angry Roastie
Stay mad as he rakes in the bucks.
Jose Phillips
No one is singling Lauren out. We have all criticized Spencer, Andlet Anglin, Millenialcucks we dropped Mike when we found out he was married to a literal Jew.
Isaiah Young
Definitely not. Notice how most female right wingers have suddenly died down in the last few days since this all started. The MSM has jumped on it too, this ain't good news in any way, shape or form.
Levi Diaz
Virgins are a BIG problem. Fuentes seriously just needs to get laid. James Allusup is the real Chad of the two by far, he is less whiny, less autistic about things that don't really matter. James is a guy you could have fun with but he has a serious side. Fuentes is a ideologue pundit uptight beta larping as a Chad
Bentley James
Kind of ironic how he shouts about optics all the time (which was definitely a discussion we needed to have, but he took it overboard) and then teams up with people like Roosh and Weev (who literally has a fucking swastika tattoo on his chest) to shit over Alt-Right women, generating bad press.
Kid has a lot of growing up to do.
Sebastian Perez
Yes she did you fucking retard, it was on her twitter. she said >Half black Half Irish, a Christian, and voted for Trump
Nolan Mitchell
(((Alt-right))) sure loves their feminists.
Aiden Stewart
Well he's right, women in politics ruined a country more then where patriarchy rules, isn't that right Sweden?
William Cooper
Nick you won the optics war for not being a total retard when it comes to political strategy but you've blown ALL that good will in a matter of a week by not being able to contain your autism and getting baited by le """esoteric""" twitter posters. Sort out your shit or get out of our way.
Jeremiah Anderson
Is he NOT /ourguy ? I mean, he's not wrong...
Benjamin Moore
>Fuentes made his bones by attacking figures on the alt-right while contributing nothing in the way of IRL organizing and activism. Nah, that would have been fine because he was actually talking about IRL organizing and activism is counter-productive, what we need to do is change the culture(which is happening) and become politically involved on the local levels.
He pretty much fucked that up with this recent stuff though, good luck changing the culture if no girls allowed and good luck finding any success in local politics even.
I agree with him though on "IRL activism" most of the Richard Spencer events have been a net negative I think. And I think Nick helped in moving both him and IE into stop doing announced events and instead doing European styled Identitarian flash activism.
Noah Perry
I'm just speaking rationally and realistically user. If a person is white at first glance then I consider that person white. In terms of American nationalism, I don't think race is the only factor. I don't think European Muslims are suitable for Western civ, unless they converted to Christianity or give up their faith altogether.
I consider Fuentes and Tara McCarthy white.
Ryan Parker
Nick is to us, what Lauren is to Normies.
Jack Reyes
I have posted against the white sharia shit and AA many times. ME is good enough and has contributed new weapons (although he is a bit of a traitor for being with a jewess while advocating against them). MW is whatever, I don't support nor feel the need to pile on. RS is the only one I agree with 95% on and support.
Jonathan Lee
Nick is putting an end to all thw LARPers and atheistic bullshit.
Nathan Hernandez
>No one is singling Lauren out Have you been paying attention to things lately? Just see the archive, also Laurens twitter and youtube comments.
Samuel Brooks
Don't forget he eats boogers on stream.
Jackson Cruz
No fucking shit It's jewish subversion 101, use controlled opposition to slowly normalize the agenda you are trying to push It's why all these female e-celebs end up being jewish
Laura southern went from hating trannies to sleeping in the same bed with them