Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?

Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?

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You mean like how America has lost every war it ever fought against goat farming peasants?

Ask JFK

They would win against the police. No chance against the military. But most soilders are patriots and wouldn’t turn against the country even if ordered

Because the state is run by flesh and blood people with families and different loyalties.

Can you say that californians and texans are the same people? Would one be willing to fight and another staying out of it?

Your laws are made to fuck the state originally and you have a diverse people with diverse opinions.

If you talk Vietnam
>napalmed them into oblivion
>nah, not worth it
>go away

Better chance is why people continue to entertain the idea of police siding with them.

You mean like that one time we did it already?

>What is Vietnam
>What is the middle east
>What is America losing Vietnam and the middle east when we're fighting people who don't look like us and therefore have less reservations to kill them
>What is killing your own countrymen who have the same culture as you

Man that was an easy thread. Glad that's over

goat farmer, rice farmer, anyhow people that demonstrate true unity/ingenuity when their lives depend on it, "united" States is a laughable contradiction

I'm a lot more creative than the state is.

Even if 1% of gun owners would revolt it would be a bigger army than most countries'.

Because we did ig the first time ya cuck

>North Vietnam achieves it's strategic goals
>USA does not

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Our armed population is a substantial deterrent both to tyranny from our own government and other nations

ay

By attacking soft targets.

Other way around. Laws were originally made to give states almost total power outside of interstate commerce and federal defense. That's pretty much what the civil war was about, slaves were just the Lynch pin of states vs federal rights.

because the public outnumbers the state 100000000 to 1 an the state is also composed of members of the public most of which are going to feel just like the public, if almost everyone was against the state it would collapse in 5 seconds unless they had some invincible robot army that 1 person controlled entirely

the public makes up the state

>invade america
>get shot

USA left the war before the north Vietnamese took over tho.

Widespread insurgencies that consist of heavily armed and trained insurgents are generally quite successful. Plus, many cops and soldiers would join the insurgents.

yeah the american military has a long history of wiping the floor with guerrilla forces armed with little more than rifles and hate.

america has a very poor track record in recent conflicts and the forces themselves have been dutifully undermined for the last decade past recognition. transgender airforce officers? legal hupbup over such childish shit? will provisions be made for dilating inside of fighter jets soon enough here? your days of winning wars based upon the quality of your men are long and over.

the USA now closely resembles saudi arabia in the makeup of its forces, ie all manner of extremely expensive equipment but employed by cowards and faggots led by equally incompetent higherups deep in corruption

pic related prime recruit to defend your nation

>tfw my .308 would punch through that no problem
Do you really think that the military would ever take an active combat role against its citizens? I'm sure there would be some but the majority would recoil in shock.

The same reason they'd want to entertain one for socialism.

Fuck you Mike!

To be fair, that's some pretty sweet looking armor.


Is that supposed to be an exosuit?

ever work a government job? i don't think you realize how dysfunctional the state really is...

>Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?

What do you think a civil war is?

Has happened plenty times over the centuries.

OK in recent years the army normally step down.

OH NO NO NO NO....

The state literally does not exist.

the military is going to bomb american cities?

doubtful

if there is civil rebellion they are going to be helpless and there'll be a struggle for political control like in every other country ever

the side of the military ont he side of the people reveals itself after the initial actors are shot in the head and then a genocide happens

literally every civil conflict in a nation state for the last 200 years that hasnt been sponsored by outside actors

the military never bombs its cities. one half of the country kills the otehr half every time

Because soldiers are the Public.

yea but with the knowledge that they would.

THIS

> nigger memes
> american flag
Really makes one think

You're making the wrong argument. That army could easily best you. What you need to realize is that once people stop paying taxes, then that army has not enough money to train/get new stuff. This is why the US Navy has so many ships crashing. King Nigger Obama cut their funds for 8 years.

but why would they?
look at the middle east, they did it and now they live in rubble.
the smart ones come here, take my tax money and fuck my daughter, but you see what i mean.

Does anyone have an idea of when all this will be going down btw just asking.

Because populace is and will always be significantly bigger in numbers than state forces

He means THE state, not "the states"

Imagine being such a deluded dipshit that you actually believe you have rights. You have nothing, and the population is gladly sacrificing everything they have including their souls on the altar of progressivism. That's all (((democracy))) is, a sham meant to diffuse blame among the whole population while keeping the benefits concentrated. The only difference is that thanks to constant propaganda, the lemmings think they're deciding of their own free will when they vote, but in reality they had been programmed from birth.

The best way to win is to make your target think like he is making the choice.

ahahahahahahahaha
ill give u that.go on sir.

Good point my guy

>entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?
because a .50 caliber anti material rifle does a lot of damage you cuck, and yes they are freely available here. Not to mention if you don't think you can jam drone coms you are retarded

The correct answer, every fucking thread
also, sage

yeah the government is just a corporation

Always have the pic at the ready

yeah american citizens never overthrew the state before :^)

>They would win against the police. No chance against the military. But most soilders are patriots and wouldn’t turn against the country even if ordered

And the winner is!!!!!! Yep! AMERICA. BECAUSE SOLDIERS ARE SWORN TO PROTECT AMERICA AND AMERICANS.... THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO destabilize OTHER countries AND IMPORT SOLDIERS THAT WILL GLADLY KILL AMERICANS???

Our best bet is to have our military wipe out our police forces and start from scratch, making community based police forces like in Japan.

Because 66% of the state army would hit the menu key then switch teams. You think you can convince cops and shit to go out and murder people? Most of them are good hard working people with morals who don't actually want to kill people.

thing is i dont see trump intervening if we are nuking haj.domestic terror against muslims is gonna be so high its aweso.e,will have to be deported for their own safety.

Because it's happened before.

>he doesn't know that Australia participated in Vietnam.

Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the government enforcement would kill its own countrymen if they revolted for justified reasons.

We had a revolution here. The soldiers, commies no less, were standing in front of a crowd with rifles in hand and crying their eyes out in case the order to shoot came. Where the order did come, soldiers disobeyed orders, shot their superiors, and even put the gun to their own heads and died rather than shoot at the revolutionaries.

Someone has been waiting and training and planning in the shadows for the moment when the state breaks down. Do you think MKULTRA is just for false flags and celebrities? "Restoring Order" will be their in.

The difference is that the state wouldnt want no napalm its own country and the military cant be everywhere at once which is why illiterates with aks in Iraq won against us warmachine

My b, after re-reading the comment I see what the user meant.

Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the Vietcong would ever win an armed conflict against the United States?

An army of completely useless fat, inbred retards.

That's literally how our country was made dipshit.

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I really really fucking hope mkultra is just bullshit but i have a feeling it is not

no one has ever claimed the right was intelligent.

Long Tan went well yeah?

Because history?

and Who is going to rebuild America?

the politician the statesman and the pope can screw each other for all we care.

The goyim know
youtube.com/watch?v=xWVxI6XZAuE

Just the white ones on the right are.
The uncle toms and civic nationalist spics are ok though.

The police would be on our side.
Only way the State would win is if they somehow managed to achieve a leftist police state & military, populated with SJW black-homo commies.

You're one to speak when you lost every war against wild animals

sage

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Dude rice farmers fucked us. I think there’s enough tannerite and high caliber rifles to make sure we could have a pretty fun time.

I would defend America, but in this case, you are correct.

this reasoning is retarded because it fails to take into account human nature and self preservation.

A lone gunman who has a fully armed pistol that holds 11 rounds walks into a store of 15 people and hold the place up. Now this guy is out numbered 15 to 1, and even with his gun, can't take out all 15 people, yet no one wants to rush him because none of them want to be one of the 11 who get shot and killed.

A single show a force will be enough to get most people to stand down. Think you're tough cause you got guns? You don't have enough. You'll get pacified, made an example of, and then when you fail people will not want to be like you. Believe or not most people don't wanna die in a blaze of glory fighting for what's right, most people just wanna live their lives free of conflict

Commies literally took over US gov like McCarthy said and sabotaged US operations in vietnam since they were their communist ilk.

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The leaf lectures us on pc degeneracy, oh my

Their forces would defect en masse from attacking innocent civilians. This would demoralize remaining forces, and strengthen opposition.

just stop, I don't even know what you're saying but I do know that you're stupid as fuck

>Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?

Because the statist indoctrination and pretense is continuously pertaining that ILLUSION.

See, the people outnumber them like 3000 to 1 or something like that!

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I'm sure homemade napalm would fix that armor.

I don't think mkultra exists in the capacity that we fear it does. Just given the composition of our brains and how they work chemically, it would be extremely hard to control that. In fact, we're not even completely sure how messages are sent from our brain to other facets of our body. A lot of times the informational 'path' taken from brain to body doesn't make sense; it's not very efficient. They don't always take the same paths and sometimes they will make 2 or 3 out of the way 'stops' before reaching where they are supposed to.

the gooks achieved the strategic goal of getting killed so badly that white guilt homosexuals in the opposing country screamed until their soldiers got home

You're propably right but good luck getting close enough.

Unfortunately this.

“Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.”

We will need those brave warriors to lead the fight against any and all tyranny because the masses will just capitulate and stand down.

Doesn't matter how.many drone u got guns are the great equaliser

Wrong, we're white so none of us are civilians. A left wing government would go total warfare, the gloves would be off completely.

Do all US military forces remain loyal to the govt ? All state National Guard and reserve units choose to side with govt ? In a civil war scenario a 50/50 division of loyalties, within the military, might be realistic, depending on what caused the uprising.

you're fucking retarded for not realizing that goes both ways, cops aren't going to stack up on doors when they know a few of them are gonna get killed

Protip: If you've pressed caps lock, holding shift doesn't make words all caps AND bigger, quite the opposite in fact

Do all US military forces remain loyal to the govt ? All state National Guard and reserve units choose to side with govt ? In a civil war scenario a 50/50 division of loyalties, within the military, might be realistic, depending on what caused the uprising.

would be more like 70/30 , right/left

>Why do people continue to entertain the idea that the public would ever win an armed conflict against the state?
Because there are 80 million firearm owners. If only 10% revolved that would be a fighting force of 8 million people.

How many people are there in total in the military?


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Oh. You're a hit and run shill. Okay. Fuck off and die, faggot.

zerg rush

Nobody acts in those situations because they have a reasonable belief that the guy robbing the store will be quick and leave. Nobody wants to die over $200 in a cash register, but people will put their lives on the line for a greater cause and to protect others lives. Once word gets out that a tyrannical government is oppressing / murdering millions you will have open revolt. The first few planes in 9/11 were hijacked fairly easily, and yet word got out and the people on United 93 fought back and ended up preventing more deaths by storming the cockpit.

Go be a self-defeating faggot somewhere else you fucking pussy.

Because it works, just with a heavy loss of life.

Against a guerrilla force, using terrorist tactics, on national soil?
And they don't even want to win a war, but just to force changes in policy and people at the top?
What could go wrong?
Seriously, with enough popular support the terrorists can reach those objectives easily.