I just now heard about this macron guy. It's really fucking strange...

I just now heard about this macron guy. It's really fucking strange, because purple quadrant politicians rarely even exist, let alone win anything.

Looking at his record over his first 6 months in and he's really following up. Tax reductions, spending reductions, labor regulation simplification/reform. I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised that someone like him managed to get elected somehow. I was under the impression it was well outside the overton window.

Are there any other examples of successfully elected libertarian leaning / purple quadrant parties/politicians anywhere else in the world? Just any socially liberal, economically dry types, even if they're mild.

pleasantly surprised indeed. I was very skeptical but when he said Africa has a civilization problem he got me.
People from the purple section or libertarian ish people have a hard time winning elections. Their policies resonate with few people which can be seen in almost ever election in every country (FDP Germany, Libertarian Party USA). His only worthy opponent was Le Pen and people aren't ready yet to vote this nationalistic.

Pleasantly surprised on the world stage? Maybe.
But take a step back, and reflect on this: is it really a surprise that the French would vote for freedom, be it economical or societal?

>People from the purple section or libertarian ish people have a hard time winning elections. Their policies resonate with few people which can be seen in almost ever election in every country

yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Everyone knows libertarians don't win anything. What the hell happened?

social liberalism, sure. But I thought the french loved the old tax n spend.

Le Pen is literally Hitler.

Sure France has a history of self determination but if this history would have continued to this day there would be no need for tax reduction or deregulation. Somehow they (not only the french) cucked towards the government for a few decades or so.

we all wish

>wants to bring back Monarchy
>Libertarian

I hate him because the EU. He's economicly right wing so that is cool though

>Macron is the French Gary Johnson

It all makes sense now

If this win will last is a different question. We've had many leaders that reduced taxes and stuff in the last decades but we still ended up with a monstrosity of a state that in some european countries takes half of what you earn and spends it on useless stuff at best.

monarchy> democracy

Liberty > monarchy

Monarchy and libertarianism are more compatible than you think. If anything, monarchy preserves liberty far better than democrats do - even if it doesn't make much sense in your head right now.

oh I doubt it will last. Libertarianism is perenially unpopular. This is an abberation, a blip in history.

But France has huge 5 year terms so until 2022 at least there's going to be some cool stuff happening.

memes aside, this was possibly the best election year for third parties in a long time and the biggest third party ran an autistic cringe lord

Your wrong. Macron is definitely on the left side

>trying to make catcalling illegal
>libertarian
He's a pretty shitty libertarian.

I agree

>Trump
>authoritarian
wat

center right

Mélenchon is more authoritarian and not that much on the left

>Are there any other examples of successfully elected libertarian leaning / purple quadrant parties/politicians anywhere else in the world? Just any socially liberal, economically dry types, even if they're mild.

Aside from local elections, and a handful of reps in the usa. Libertarian right people just simply don't get elected my guess boils down to these two facts.
1. They want to shrink the government, not make it larger, existing cronies don't like that, because they lose power.

2. They are not in the "in-group". Do you think Gary Johnson or Ron Paul would ever be invited to the same events that John Mcain, or Hillary would be invited to. No of course not.


Also I would move Trump down on that chart, and further to the right. There is no way that he is more authoritarian than Hillary. So that way he is around (8,2) and Hillary is around (2,7).

Thats just me evaluating how Trump has preformed so far, and what Hillary wanted to do. Whom ever made this chart, wanted to portray Trump as a nazi.

Le pen is literally disappearing as we speak . The mess of the election willl kill her

That labour regulation reform is seriously ballsy stuff. There was a right wing Australian prime minister who was super popular and won elections every 3 years for 15 years, and the moment he tried to do some labour regulation reform he got killed. It takes some serious free market commitment to fight with labour unions and deregulate like that.

I think he's definitely pretty right wing economically based on that and reduced taxes and spending alone.

don't mind this retard, he obviously don't know what he's been doing since he got elected

> Last president was in the socialist party
> communist party replaces the socialist party
> Macron is doing some good things for France and has a approval ratings in the mid 30's

The French are beyond fucked like 5 years ago the French government lowered the retirement age by a couple of years to save money and the French started chimping out

I guess you mean increased but yes the french are fucking crazy with their welfare n'shit. Unions are way to strong the balance between employer and employee is not right. Labor in Germany is cheaper than in France.

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