Why do libertarians support this buck toothed street shitter?

Hudson Myers
Hudson Myers

Why do libertarians support this buck toothed street shitter?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Corp._v._FCC
gizmodo.com/5466492/verizon-has-blocked-access-to-Sup Forums-but-what-are-they-gonna-do-about-it

Hunter Hernandez
Hunter Hernandez

Because people like you put so much time, money and energy into trying to get us not to like him. It's sad to be honest.

Andrew Murphy
Andrew Murphy

Because they think that allowing multi-billion dollar companies to censor and restrict your internet access is a good idea based on principal.

Ayden Evans
Ayden Evans

lesser of evils

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

he's pretty based pooinloo

he btfo obama and jewgle

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

There in lies the problem. Shit heads like this will willfully and gleefully vote against their own interests so long as whatever they are voting for is opposed by the evil "leftists".

Owen Miller
Owen Miller

so government doing the exact same is ok? yeah fuck off and continue asskissing the state-sponsored ISP monopolies, kike

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

I was against NN before he even was FCC head chair

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

If we give companies the freedom to censor the internet, they might choose not to.

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

What's wrong with pre-2015 internet?

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

What a surprise another shithead right winger who has no idea what he's talking about.

Camden Ramirez
Camden Ramirez

What's wrong with treating ISP's like utlities and not allowing them to ass rape consumers and censor speech?

John Allen
John Allen

Comcast throttling torrents.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

Who cares what libertarians officially support
We supported Gary fucking Johnson ffs

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

why?

Nicholas Watson
Nicholas Watson

What a surprise another shithead left winger who doesn't understand basic government

Wyatt Martinez
Wyatt Martinez

When Comcast throttled Netflix? When AT&T blocked Skype and some other dog shit like that.

Owen Butler
Owen Butler

They don’t care about censoring speech. They want to make Netflix, Amazon Video, Youtube, Hulu and Twitch pay for broadband.

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

and censor speech?
Like twitter, facebook, youtube, and reddit do right now? The same people for NN?

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

NN is a meme

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

What a stupid question.

Libertarians believe the absolute of private property rights and therefore want to apply it to the internet.

Fuck you are a stupid bastard.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

They know they just pretend not to in an attempt to hoodwink people

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

Trusting the motivations of Billion dollar companies

It doesn't matter what they claim to want to do. The point is this would give them the power to censor speech which is a big problem.

Ryder Miller
Ryder Miller

You mean raise prices for everyone.
But I don't use Netflix!
Doesn't matter. Google gets revenue through ads. No NN means Google raises its ad prices, and every company in the western world has to raise their prices to make up for the loss.

Yeah Reddit likes to ban people. That's why we need to let Comcast shut down Sup Forums.

Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

Because government has more incentive to restrict freedom on internet than private corporations

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

Yeah, because those are the only websites on the internet. If you don't like how they censor speech don't visit them, but don't try to compare that to wholesale censorship of the internet as a whole.

Brayden Sullivan
Brayden Sullivan

would give them the power to censor speech

Luke Perry
Luke Perry

You do realize getting rid of Net Neutrality doesn't magically remove the government's ability to regulate the internet right?

The hundreds of other internet regulations and laws stay on the books.

Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

So explain why you are for NN without using words like "they could" or "they might"

Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

Yeah, I agree with you. Banning single users from twitter is too slow. The sooner we can shut down whole websites that go against the liberal narrative, the better.

Evan Johnson
Evan Johnson

Before NN, Comcast was sued multiple times for throttling content they didn't like.

It'd not a "they might" it's a "They will, probably within days."

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

it removes over reaching regulatory power.

Luke Parker
Luke Parker

Government can still regulate internet after NN goes. Stop the shilling

Sebastian Davis
Sebastian Davis

Is that supposed to be a counter argument? Do you not see the difference between one website having policies that you don't like, vs an ISP censoring websites that they don't like? I.e. on one hand you have a choice to not visit sites that you don't like, on the other a company gets to decide which websites you can visit.

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

Comcast was sued multiple times for throttling content they didn't like.

Did the lawsuits win?
Are you in some stupid fucking shithole where you can't use someone else?

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

Why are right wingers against any regulation that would protect them as consumers? Why do you shill for billion dollar companies?

Isaiah Wood
Isaiah Wood

It doesn't change the power at all, the FCC can do anything they want as soon as a different person is in charge. It doesn't limit the FFC's future ability in any way.

All removing NN does is remove YOUR rights.

David Adams
David Adams

You really trust them to not do it? Come on, dude. These companies don't give a fuck about ethics. They'll do whatever they can to make as much money as possible.

Robert Nelson
Robert Nelson

when NN is finally repealed

Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

because hes based

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

Are you in some stupid fucking shithole where you can't use someone else?
most counties in the US operate under ISP monopoly or oligopoly

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

ISP censoring websites that they don't like
Wow that sounds scary! Could you give me some preNN examples of this.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

Did the lawsuits win?
Settled out of court so they wouldn't have to admit any guilt to lying. IIRC the last big one earned the people suing $16.

Are you in some stupid fucking shithole where you can't use someone else?

You mean am I one of a vast majority of Americans who can only choose between the largest ISPs?

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

I don't shill for any company.

if that was true why was NN the guidelines a thing in the first place? It gave more oversight to FCC from FTC

Zachary Price
Zachary Price

Because they're legit retarded, there's a reason they're called lolbertarians. They're so obsessed with no government and so autistic about deregulation that they don't stop to think about what regulation is good, and just applaud any and all deregulation. I bet if someone proposed getting rid of safety laws and getting rid of OSHA they would support that too.

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Corp._v._FCC

Basically, Comcast got caught red handed denying internet access to their customers using P2P clients (because people used P2P to share Comcast-owned media without paying Comcast).

The FCC told them to knock that shit off, and the courts said the FCC didn't have the authority. That's why NN exists in the first place.

Juan Flores
Juan Flores

It doesn't matter if they didn't (or did) do it before.

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

having to fight for your rights on a case-by-case basis, confidently assuming you'll win every time and paying the legal costs, is somehow preferable to a blanket stop of such cases, which basically says "you'd win anyway, so why not forego all the red tape"
the absolute state of american libertarianism

Cameron Rogers
Cameron Rogers

NN regulations started with Bush.

William White
William White

The fact that the FCC can decide whenever it wants to turn NN on or off shows they have whatever authority they want to have.

Like, getting rid of NN doesn't take away the FCC's ability to classify the internet as whatever they want to call it.

Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

I used to be for NN.

Then I realized getting rid of NN would make Sup Forums #muttfree

Hunter Williams
Hunter Williams

You do realize getting rid of Net Neutrality doesn't magically remove the government's ability to regulate the internet right?
so people should just take the state's cock all the way? kill yourself

The hundreds of other internet regulations and laws stay on the books.
those are problems too

Why are right wingers against any regulation that would protect them as consumers?
because if the state really wanted to protect consumers, they would remove state-sponsored ISP monopolies already and let people protect themselves

Why do you shill for billion dollar companies?
he says this, when billion dollar companies are the ones shilling for NN
fuck off. Billion dollar companies shouldn't get corporate welfare either, just fuck off with the state already

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

the absolute state of american libertarianism
It is where I live. Thanks to capitalism I can choose to access the internet through cable, DSL, tethering 4GLTE companies, Hughsnet. Why should the rest of us suffer because you live in a shit hole?

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

It won't make Americans go away, it will make you pay a monthly fee to use Sup Forums because Hiroshimoot won't be able to afford to pay ISPs.

Liam Rivera
Liam Rivera

Also when Verizon blocked Sup Forums. Removing NN is the same kind of mistake the dems made in the Obama years. Once Dems are in charge and we're already used to not having NN, be prepared for sites like Sup Forums to be blocked for spreading fake news and right wing propaganda. This is already happening in Europe, and now dumb right wingers want to get rid of the thing preventing it from happening here.

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

the government has its cock balls-deep in my throat already
might as well gobble up corp cock as well then

this is you

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

Also when Verizon blocked Sup Forums

Oh yeah, forgot about that. That was what, 2010?

I suppose most of the anti-NN shills here were still in primary school back then.

Brandon Parker
Brandon Parker

we don't

Jace Young
Jace Young

vote against their own interests
How is it in my interest to let the government control the internet with unelected officials?

Hudson Watson
Hudson Watson

FCC is ending NN rules, not ending NN. The real battle which everyone is ignoring is between AT&T and the FTC, in which AT&T is attempting to strip the FTC of it's regulatory authority over ISPs, thus stopping the FTC from protecting consumers from ISPs.

Wyatt Murphy
Wyatt Murphy

nice false dichotomy retard. A state forces me to comply, a corp can't. The entire point of no STATE-SPONSORED ISP monopolies is so there can be more smaller, independent private ISP's around

I know NN doesn't cover that but it's a step in the right direction than going full retard and wanting complete state control of the internet -- basically giving up

Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

That buck-toothed street shitter is your father you disloyal little fuck.

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

I'm going to have a mighty good laugh when your options as a consumer after NN abolition go up by exactly 0% because the high infrastuctural entry barrier forces the ISP market to be an oligopoly, and all you'll have accomplished is relinquishing protections

count on it

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

Because it seems like every leftist cunt hates him, so i naturally side with him

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

Getting rid of NN literally will not help to end the monopoly at all. In fact, more regulation is what would help that. Currently, there is no government interference preventing new companies from entering the market, Google has been slowly entering the market for the last decade. The reason why there is monopolies is because it costs so much money to enter the market. The ISPs own the Internet lines, so new companies have to put down new lines, which costs a lot if money that starter companies just do not have, and is too expensive a gamble for larger companies. If you actually want more competition, you need regulation. The government funded the original lines that the ISPs put in, so they should regulate it and tell them that they must let other companies use those lines. That's the only real way you'll get past the monopolies.

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Not to the same degree

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

This is what's destroying the country. Too many people feel this way, especially the politicians. When people play partisan politics, the citizens always get the short end of the stick. This is why democracy was a mistake, people are too dumb to not think in groups and actually think about what's in the best interest of the people.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

All removing NN does is remove YOUR rights.

What right(s)?

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

How about your right to have your data treated exactly the same as everyone else's and not be discriminated against because you're right wing?

Without NN there would literally be nothing stopping Comcast from saying "We need to get rid of these right wing hate sites like Sup Forums and block access to them"

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

This. Most morons are partisans.
lets trigger lefties xD xD
lets trigger righties xD xD
People this dumb are only useful doing menial labor and shouldn't have any say within government, be it through voting or otherwise.

Ryder Harris
Ryder Harris

How about your right to have your data treated exactly the same as everyone else's and not be discriminated against because you're right wing?

Ah, so you were talking out of your ass, so to speak

Leo Morgan
Leo Morgan

But it literally happened before.

gizmodo.com/5466492/verizon-has-blocked-access-to-Sup Forums-but-what-are-they-gonna-do-about-it

Nolan Bell
Nolan Bell

And? We're talking about rights here, user.

Adam Wood
Adam Wood

Because their interests generally don't align with ISPs, which are regional monopolies, and whose interests are price gouging.

Mason White
Mason White

Ah, you're just a retard then. Okay. Feel free to leave.

Eli Jackson
Eli Jackson

flaggot
The government's interests generally don't align with that of the people. You didn't really answer my question anyway. Be specific.

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Americans literally having to fight all the time for not being butt-raped by corporations
some of them actually liking it

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

You don't have a right to access any site you want, user.

Unless you can point out where its in the Bill of Rights.

Alexander Garcia
Alexander Garcia

9th Amendment.

James Collins
James Collins

Sure! I think you're right in that these are major generalizations. As has been seen, ISPs are pretty willing to block stuff like torrenting (that's how the net neutrality debate started) and downloads. Ajit Pai has stated that because fast lanes haven't been tried, it's worth trying them.

As someone who runs a website for those that take classes on my (hurricane proof, cell-signal resistant) campus designed to run well under 2G, any changes to traffic prioritization that don't help me, will hurt _a lot_. I can't imagine any case where a fast lane helps a small guy, or does anything that's pro-innovation, or pro-competition. I think the more you look at a net-neutrality vs. non-net neutrality world, the more you see these cases where it doesn't actually do anything good for the consumer. T-Mobile's service is one instance where it's not directly anti-consumer, but it still provides a distinct advantage to incumbents. I'm curious about your side.

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

If you pay for Internet, especially when it's a monopoly, they shouldn't be allowed to just block access to sites they don't like. The Internet is a huge intergral part of our lives. You can't even get jobs anymore without applying online. It's time we start applying the constitution to it. Free speech/expression online is just as important as offline.

Grayson Adams
Grayson Adams

My side is as simple as what I've already stated. I do not trust the government to regulate ISPs especially with unaccountable politicians not beholden to voters in the least. The best thing the government could do for the internet would be to remove the myriad of stringent barriers to competition between service providers and to startups. I'm not so naive as to blindly trust corporations (as they're often in bed with the government anyway). I've suffered through comcast and gotten to enjoy the results of a new competition entering the market a providing a vastly better alternative.

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

if Comcast wants to die, that's their business. I have no problem falling back on a B-list satellite internet that won't censor shit because it's eager for cash. If Google ads become more/too expensive, then less people will feed the monopoly and it will die.

With government running the show though, I can't realistically just go get a B-list government to provide more acceptable internet when the next democrat gets in office in the year 2032 and uncensors CNN, Reddit and Twitter.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Because libertarians are buck toothed street shitters.

John Robinson
John Robinson

Which barriers are there?

Ayden Gutierrez
Ayden Gutierrez

Except I'm not a moderate. I'm a fascist who's disillusioned with mainstream politics and mainstream partisans who both advocate for many of the same polices while pretending to be radically different.

Daniel Cooper
Daniel Cooper

I'm so smart because I blindly support everything from my party and hate everything from the other people
hurr people with actual opinions are so dumb

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

wait, are you talking about the pro NN companies like Google and Facebook, or the telecoms?

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