Being able to laugh at conservative and liberal roasties at the same time for being retarded

>Being able to laugh at conservative and liberal roasties at the same time for being retarded
>Not having to rely on backwards feels over reals ideas
>Knowing your ideology has only failed because of intervention from the bourgeoisie elite that run the United States and United Kingdom that are insecure about how shit their ideology is
>Having a solid set of principles
>Being able to actually mention your politics without young women around you being instantly reviled

Why are you /normies/ not socialists yet? It just makes your lives simpler.

>Bu-Bu-But St-St-Stalin!

What-about-ism has nothing on me. If you're retarded enough to think Marxism-Leninism (Stalin) and the good shit (any other form of socialism) are the same then you don't know shit

Profits over people makes you shit

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fuck off leftypol

>Profits over people makes you shit
Wrong. It goes family > friends > acquaintances >>>>> "countrymen" I do not know
I only put forth efforts for my kin near me and not for others I do not know. To best accomplish this I need control over what I earn and to keep the fruits of my efforts. I owe no profits to those I do not know and may not care for. I will not be a work horse for people not of my choosing.

>It just makes your lives simpler.
OP accidentally says too much.

>Marx invented Marxism
>Marx also invented Capitalism to describe not having an ideology as the enemy ideology
>Private enterprise is only ideological because we can't get rid of you fucks
Pretty solid as far as shill posts though, my sage friend of some embarrassing nation

0th position, you jacobin fuck

> anarchist flag
> shills for socialism (?)
Alright.

> using the word 'bourgeoisie elite'
user...

I'll tell you what: Socialism works when you have enough hard working people to support the needy ones. That means it doesn't work in Reality.

> It just makes your lives simpler.
Yes, it does - if you are a lazy, work unwilling waste of organic matter living like a parasite.

Go on, found a kick-starter with some equally enthusiastic people and buy some Island to create your socialist paradise. We will even send totally competent Refugees to you for free!

The only workable form economically is something mixed like national socialism or social democracy. Obviously natsoc's already understand that. But you fags always whine that this doesn't count because it is just modified capitalism (it is).

>Knowing your ideology has only failed because...

Exactly. It never works, but you faggots still take the bait. You can make excuses, but the fact is it has never worked and there have been plenty of attempts.

>Why are you /normies/ not socialists yet? It just makes your lives simpler.
>It just makes your lives simpler.
Yeah dude. No food, no problems. Sign me up for communism so schlomo can fuck my daughter right quick.

>Cuddling up and reading political literature with a cute comrade
>Organizing with comrades and singing cool union songs then going out for drinks.
>Enjoying activism on the weekend and helping your community
>Enjoying the cleasing knowledge that only dialectical materialism brings
>Having politics that aren't purely based out of fear of other races and fear of rejection by women.
Damn it feels good to be a leftist.

stalinism was its greatest manifestation, you kike faggot.

>wanting to be marxist, ever
>calling any other ideology shit, ever
your sheer existence is like the punchline of a joke

t. Mises.org aficionado

haha anti marxists btfo
gottem lolol, I forgot that naming some 'literally who' website makes my statements invalid, sure got me

Honestly if we rounded up all the anarcho communists and sent them to jupiter the money we'd save alone on no longer having to support leeches that spend lifetimes concocting theory on why society expecting you to work in order to eat is evil oppression would make it worth it. At least some tankie Stalinists are honest workers. Ancoms are all 100% societal dead weight.

Such a shit ideology that it turned two largely unindustrialized countries (Russia and China) into world superpowers in under a century and forced America to run up insane military debts just to prevent it's spread to the global south.

>>Knowing your ideology has only failed because intervention
>Lenin implements shit ideology
>people have no incentive to work, ergo they don't work
>system starts to collapse as soon as implemented
>had to implement some rubbish totalitarian market system just to survive
>only failed because intervention

we all know Huey Long is better

>turned into superpowers
>mass starvation was a common event in both cases
such super, very impressive

same jewish faggot that posted this and other threads in mass to flood us
>Sup Forums : fuck you left& kikes

>Not having to rely on backwards feels over reals ideas
lol wut? You believe economic value is objective, is somehow magically bestowed by labor and that socio-economic class is real and not an arbitrary social and ideological construct. You also reject biological realism. I mean, shit, you unquestioningly believe equality is "good" and is in anyway achievable of desirable, and you think you favor reals over feelz? And even leftist anarchists saw what a Jewish con-artist Marx was.

'What-about-ism' is phrase used by assholes to avoid recognizing their own hypocrisy. Neck yourself.

>>Not having to rely on backwards feels over reals ideas
Is this OP kidding? I thought capitalism was the heartless acquisition of profit at all costs. Porky selling his grandma into slavery for a dollar and all that. Definitely more emotionally driven than an economic ideology that can only pretend to work when everyone cares about their fellow citizens and the good of the world so much that they work their hearts out for their rationed pittance.

dead ideology. delete this thread faggot.

>Why are you /normies/ not socialists yet?
Because I took an economics class in high school. Go back to your circlejerk and keep redistributing your wifes goods.

>I posted it again
Marxist cultists whatever form or spinoff SJW, Bernifags, libtards, commies, leninists are still just mentally retarded delusional kids that dont know what they are talking about.

Get a job (a real productive one. rations and pocketmoney for assaulting people on the streets doesnt count) to understand how the shit you little faggots screech about while sitting at home the whole day even remotely works and read a real book.

>>mass starvation was a common event in both cases
Nope, the communist regimes actually stopped the endemic famines in both cases.

HOLODOMOR WILL DISAGREE

>SJW, Bernifags, libtards, are still just mentally retarded delusional kids that dont know what they are talking about.
i agree with you

>Get a job

Communist parties used to be supported by workers. Up until the 60's when communist/socialist parties dropped the marxism out of their platforms

>im too much of an incompetent beta male to take care of myself
>someone else please look after me my mum and dad are saying theyre not ganna pay my bills anymore

Yeah real bold courageous stuff op

Holodomor happened only a decade after the revolution. Famines were recurrent during the czarist time. But during USSR it only happened twice. "Holodomor" and after WW2.

Welfare is a capitalist invention, designed to placate the masses while "they" are raping our countries. It was first created by Bismark, a man known for his intense hate of socialists

~FAMINE

communism can never be achieved because it is stateless. think about it. communism needs perfect communist genes (and technology) in order to function. if a group of people (state) have to kill anyone to maintain a system then its a state. genes are random. if you cant kill anyone thats bad for communism or prevent them from breeding then eventually your system will collapse. communism will always require a state (group of people maintaining the system).thus communism is impossible.

Because we're more concerned with our children getting literally rape by subhuman darkie scum than getting metaphorically raped by economics.

I understand champagne socialists like yourself might think that the life of a working man is literal hell, but we really don't mind it.

Your just the machine now. Why wouldn't we fight you.
youtu.be/AgSr2iNXygo

>watching her get raped by Lavrentiy Beria
>watching her die of starvation

You just fucked my mind bro

Take that black off you faggot. You're no anarchist.

But your kind highly popularized muh whataboutism and now you hate it? Really makes me think

>metaphorically

>Take that black off
Anarchists are rife with racism
>inb4 but you're on /po/ doing some origami

>Why are you /normies/ not socialists yet?

But I am.

Marxism is a fundamentally broken ideological cancer however.

>Profits over people makes you shit

People's feelings over efficiency also makes you shit. It's about finding a balance, it's what Jews fail to understand. All ideologies influenced by Semites have gaping holes in them that don't match human nature or the balance of the universe.

Capitalism = A destruction of culture, tradition and ethnic groups to turn the world into a monolithic consumerist blob ruled over by Jews.

Marxism = A destruction of prosperity and efficiency, that stagnates economic development and impedes innovation, leading to poor living conditions and famine. Simultaneously it also wants to turn the world into one monolithic egalitarian blob ruled by Jews.

The only way to win is to remove Semitic influence and balance your societies.

> it checks
kikes must go ASAP and any way to get rid of them is good

>capitalism = da jooos
That's the extent of Turd Position's analysis. You should be aware few people will fall for the meme again.

>"Turd position"
moar like you can't deal with a non-economically polarised patriotic voting block because it cancels your false dichotomy and reason to exist (besides your will to obtain power)
>checkmate proper

>non-economically polarised patriotic voting block
You mean the upper middle class?

non-economically polarised patriotic voting block
>You mean the upper middle class?
proof you are cut out from the social fabric because you are a convicted communist who lost the plot

Holy fuck you're all retards

I literally cannot dissect what you mean. If you think that the money you make goes only to your family, friends, whatever the fuck then you're actually retarded. Read a fucking book, preferably capital if you're gonna say it's shit.

>Marx invented capitalism
Holy shit you're retarded. Marx just wrote a book that described how capitalism functions, Capital, and then realizing the contradictions and fuckedness of it he wrote another book, the communist manifesto. Read a book, preferably anything Marx wrote.

Anarchism is a product of socialism you ignorant fuck. Ever heard of anarcho-syndicalism?
>Socialism works when you have enough hard working people to support the needy ones. That means it doesn't work in Reality.
Suck my dick, I don't give a shit. If you want to think that we don't already support a bunch of lazy fucks (hint hint, your boss' boss' boss) then you don't know shit.
>Yes, it does - if you are a lazy, work unwilling waste of organic matter living like a parasite.
princeton.edu/~joha/publications/Haushofer_Shapiro_UCT_2016.04.25.pdf
Read a fucking book.

If you think socialism doesn't work because it failed after eighty years in the countries that the west didn't rely upon, you have the thought process of Wile E Coyote. Read a fucking book.

I don't know how the fuck you reactionaries think that people were both slaves and fucking lazy shits in the Soviet States. You boggle my fucking mind, read a damn book.

You're just an asshole man, go back to the reactionary fucking hole you came from and read a fucking book.

Holy shit that is so fucking incredibly racist I couldn't even begin to start. If you think there isn't an incentive for media outlets to make you hate darkies, then you need to reevaluate your ideas on capitalism. Read a fucking book, and maybe a couple citations next time too.

Communism seemed cool when the Soviets combined it with Nationalism and put up all sorts of statues of muscular naked dudes doing work and farming. This seems to be the conception that still lingers in people's minds. There's not currently a solid connection of Marxist/Frankfurt Institute philosophy to the phenomenon of SJW's and deviants of all sorts. In essence you could almost say that in that time it was a shittier and even more authoritarian form of NatSoc that did not respect personal property rights as much. And this is what people think Communism is: the archaic and legitimately worker-focused form that ignored niggers and sandniggers, not the neo-Marxist form that encourages seizing the means of production of sweet boipucci and ladyboys.

The lower classes are class-conscious, left or right-wing, and acutely aware that there is no inbetween the haves and have-nots. Or do you think it wasn't the Rust Belt that swung the election for Trump, with promises of protectionism?

Your entire image is predicated on the belief that the Marxist definition of Socialism is the only one. But what you communiggers fail to realize is that Socialism as a word and an idea predates Marx by at least 50 years. As such he does not have the monopoly on defining the word.

Socialism effectively arose as a counter-position to degenerate consumer capitalism that treated your own countrymen like animals. It had no original basis other than a community-oriented opposition to capitalism. The whole state-owned communist meme only became popularized under Marxist doctrine.

When you claim that National Socialist Germany was capitalism masquerading as socialism, all it shows is your lack of understanding of the matter. The state ran public works programs, it increased the corporate tax rate to 40% (higher than anywhere in the world today), reduced the personal tax rate to 13.7%, it nationalized the Armaments industry to prevent war profiteering and the influence of the armaments industry to influence politics and force wars.

National Socialists guaranteed a job to all male Germans, created welfare and government-sponsored charity programs, and (this is the thing that makes you really upset) removed class politics in it's entirety from the country, making everyone put their children into Hitler Youth programs and united the country towards one purpose.
There were massive public cleaning programs, factories were forced to add libraries and recreation facilities, public healthcare was expanded, ordinary Germans were given opportunities to go on vacations, etc.etc.

None of that is inherently capitalist, it is fundamentally anti-capitalist. The Business community was utterly subservient to the National Socialist German Worker's Party, who were allowed to conduct market business (the most efficient form of resource and capital allocation) under the proviso that they didn't shit on the interests of the people.

im kinda annoyed that nobodies debating me but i digress

>socialism is when the government does stuff
>lowered wages for the workers, banned unions and striking, made the 1% richer
>muh special snowflake definition of socialism
>in opposition to special snowflake definition of capitalism
I guess shitting on the workers counts as "removing class politics".

>being a commie
Pic related

>The lower classes are class-conscious, left or right-wing, and acutely aware that there is no inbetween the haves and have-nots.
No they are class-conscious in the sense they hate immigrants who get their jobs.
>Or do you think it wasn't the Rust Belt that swung the election for Trump, with promises of protectionism?
Sup Forums's grasp is now to be feared and no-one is a 19th century relic here, for better or worse

>implying public works projects and welfare are special or unique to Nazis
>implying Keynesianism is anti-capitalism

>No they are class-conscious in the sense they hate immigrants who get their jobs.
>proles fell for the divide and conquer tactic of the ruling class
>where they tell them to blame people who are even worse off and lower on the social ladder than themselves
>dat means dey r class-conshuz

Fuck you, anarchism is essential to socialism.

>But your kind highly popularized muh whataboutism and now you hate it? Really makes me think
Whataboutism is bringing up new issues so that you can ignore the issue that was just brought up and pretend it doesn't exist. Ergo, "Hey I don't think we should discriminate against people based on their wealth" and then "Yeah but that's socialism and socialism killed 100 million fucking people because I heard a random fucking quote from the black book of communism that quotes nazis as part of the deaths due to communism"
Kindly read a book. Fag.

Holy fuck that picture is so devolved from the roots of issues present in it that it's insulting. You think black people are more disproportionate to crime because of their fucking genes or something? It's because the European powers imperialized the shit out of them and then said "Oh racism was bad sorry" and then never make things better again. Read a fucking book.

Holy shit you're retarded. I can't even fucking begin with your post. Holy shit. Read a fucking book aside from Mein Kampf you reactionary fag.

>Big words big words
What the fuck did you even say with that. Speak in fucking english not neckbeard armchair reactionary. Read a fucking book.

What does this even fucking mean. I don't know, but I think what you mean is that people think communism is Marxism-Leninism and not "Neo-Marxism" whatever the fuck that is. Read a fucking book and google Anarcho-Syndicalism.

Yeah but they were fucking reactionaries and murdering people is exactly why we were trying to escape capitalism in the first place you fucking retard.
Not to mention that socialism did exist as a set of uncoordinated ideas for many years before Marx, but he and Engels were some of the first to unify socialism and bring it to the community at large. Holy shit read a fucking book.

The Third Position is literally just reactionary garbage that tries to believe it's above capitalism and socialism when in reality it's just fascism. Read a book, maybe fucking Marx.

National Socialism is the only good socialism

I fucking hate libs and conservatives too you dipshit, they're both the biggest contributors to chaos across the world. Read a fucking book and stop blaming everything on jews holy shit.

Nationalism Socialism is just fascism, and fascism has no ties to socialism. All true socialists realize that fascism is just retarded rhetoric that easily excites the masses because it deals with FEELS>REALS
>Muh Immigrants
>Muh Blackies
>Muh Minorites
Shut the fuck up

>oh no! the people who have a bit of money who invest is smartly and toe the line end up making more money!

You don't care about the bottom of society, you're just envious of those that are successful. You really are a communist.

>made the 1% richer

It's a market-based system, of course those with money are going to get more money, that's how it all works.

>lowered wages for the workers

No, they stagnated nominally and increased technically. What did they gain in return?
>guaranteed job
>guaranteed vacation (till the war)
>controlled inflation
>better working conditions
>access to welfare programs
>women with children were subsidized by the state if they were unmarried for whatever reason

A reasonable trade. All Marxists managed to accomplish was drive people into poverty.

>guarantee everyone a job
>more people in the workforce
>the cost of labour drops slightly because there are more people working
>real weekly earnings go up anyway

Dude, what? Are you trying to sound clueless?

>Holy shit you're retarded. I can't even fucking begin with your post. Holy shit. Read a fucking book aside from Mein Kampf you reactionary fag.

>can't refute
>time for some ad hominem

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all.

>Read a fucking book aside from Mein Kampf you reactionary fag.

I own Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto and have read them both, but actually have not read Mein Kampf. Ironic.

>All Marxists managed to accomplish was drive people into poverty.
>guaranteed job
>quintupling of wages
>welfare
>doubling of life expectancy
>low cost of living
???

>>No they are class-conscious in the sense they hate immigrants who get their jobs.
>>proles fell for the divide and conquer tactic of the ruling class
>>where they tell them to blame people who are even worse off and lower on the social ladder than themselves
>>dat means dey r class-conshuz
the foreign scum is in a class of his own, the first RESPONSE IS NOT OH SHI~ CLASS STRUGGLE !

----->it's he's FOREIGN
you have an aquired taste that is abnormal, please end yourself, no harm meant but rid us of you

>Holy fuck that picture is so devolve... Read a fucking book.
fucker has no sense of sarcasm>Big words big words

>What the fuck did you even say with that...Read a fucking book.
moar leftfail missing the point ,
your point of failure is your failure to get the point
>inb4 big words~

> Read a fucking book and stop blaming everything on jews holy shit.
after two degrees and a masters I piss on your graves for fun, I'm tired of reading, I forbid moar books from now on .

Communism is Jewish.

Jews are inherently anti-White.

Therefore, Judeo Communism is inherently anti-White.

I piss on your graves for fun
>kike graves
burn in hell alloreligious scum

So basically you're a communist because it gives you comfort? That's pathetic.

>Implying you didn't just read Das Kapital so that you could say you read it online to people like me on a fucking cuneiform discussion board in order to defend fascism

Actually read it, and listen to the works of my comrades Richard Wolff (youtube.com/watch?v=zPv8gpZSpqI) and the folks at Chapo Trap House (soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-164-the-deficit-rag-12417) if you don't want to be so fucking retarded and reactionary.

Cite your fucking sources for ridiculous claims too instead of saying "But muh marxists" and "But muh jews". You look like a fucking idiot.

You want me to refute your god damn post? I'll refute your god damn post.

First of all, NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS A NAME CARRIED OVER WHEN FUCKING HITLER TOOK CONTROL OF THE NATSOC PARTY. Fascism != socialism, socialism is the idea that we should fucking see each other as equals. That we should look at another man and say "You are my equal, and I am no better than you". Socialism is this and a critique of capitalism, showing it's biggest flaws and mistakes. One mistake, for example, is making it profitable to feed this bullshit to you fucking retards (ala Alex Jones, leaders of the modern fascist movements, etc).

>Capitalism = A destruction of culture, tradition and ethnic groups to turn the world into a monolithic consumerist blob ruled over by Jews.

Jews are not your problem, yelling jew in a crowded board is just you trying to distract from the real issues. Capitalism is a recent invention that has money as a fundamental constant, which is supposed to be made by generating wealth. Problem is, when you have people work under companies that form over time you have advanced slavery, which is capitalism's predecessor.

he was talking about germany

>Over a hundred million dead of famine and gulags in Soviet Union and China alone

Stalin grew the economy rapidly, but what did he do?

>allied with western capitalists to build car plants and other industry
>sold massive amounts of grain to the west to fuel heavy industrial growth, leading to no fewer than 6 Million deaths to starvation and starvation-related illnesses
>anyone who didn't meet nigh-impossible production quotas was sent to the gulag or thrown into unemployment and starvation, put into circumstances at the least comparable to or at most far worse than western capitalists of the time
>communist ideology failed to spread beyond the boundary of the Soviet Union, as uprisings didn't have eno0ugh popular support among the working class anywhere else, so it engaged in imperialistic expansion, using Soviet citizens as cannon fodder in number unseen (e.g: winter war)

The Soviet Union used Marxist doctrine as a baseline, but all of it's economic growth came from being pragmatic and ignoring it, but used it as an excuse to commit atrocities anyway.

>low cost of living

Also low standard of living, relative to western countries, and the rate of growth did not match western countries after the war.

>all of that shit

I tried finding comparisons of economic growth, but I can't find the image with the stats. But it showed that everyone except the Soviet Union stagnated by the 1960's. The Soviet Union was however totally stagnant by the 1980's too.

Western market-oriented economies were better economically, but in turn we have the current degenerate mess of mass immigration and destruction of culture and tradition, so it's no better.

Try and refute other things in my previous post, don't just bring one thing up.

Then he said that all Marxists managed was drive people into poverty, so I cited the Soviet Union doing even better, without any class collaboration shit or lowering of wages.

>hundreds gorillions dead
Nice job citing Nazi propaganda.

>Marxism = A destruction of prosperity and efficiency, that stagnates economic development and impedes innovation, leading to poor living conditions and famine. Simultaneously it also wants to turn the world into one monolithic egalitarian blob ruled by Jews.

Marxism is not about the fucking destruction of prosperity, or efficiency, or impeding innovation you fucking retard. Marxism is merely a catch-all term for ideas laid out in Marx's books, which I am sure you read.

Marxism is a collection of socialist ideas, one of the most distinguishing however is the idea that while the bourgeoisie still exist in any form that socialism cannot exist, and instead while they are alive we will only receive concessions. In order for socialism to actually happen, you need violent revolution that removes and redistributes the wealth of these people. Ever heard of the distinction between private and personal property you fucking mong? Maybe if you didn't have your fist stuck so far up your ass while reading Marx you'd actually know the fucking difference.

Backing this annon up with a source on the complete fucking shitshow that was the Soviet economy post revolution.
princeton.edu/~ota/disk3/1979/7918/791812.PDF

Soviet economic success was floated in the back of Western companies brought in post revolution. It was a sham to it's core.

I have a masters degree in extremely neolib American econometrics and I'm still a leftist.

>Socialism as a word and an idea predates Marx by at least 50 years. As such he does not have the monopoly on defining the word.
As a matter of fact he does. Why? Because everyone before him was wrong. And Marx was right

someone needs a helicopter ride

implying that neolibs arent behind the rights current problems

>Socialism effectively arose as a counter-position to degenerate consumer capitalism that treated your own countrymen like animals.
Wrong. Consumerism only appeared in the 20th century.

>When you claim that National Socialist Germany was capitalism masquerading as socialism
Not even that. They dropped the socialism part remarkably quickly.

>The state ran public works programs, it increased the corporate tax rate to 40% (higher than anywhere in the world today), reduced the personal tax rate to 13.7%, it nationalized the Armaments industry to prevent war profiteering and the influence of the armaments industry to influence politics and force wars.
So? You think government spending == socialism?

...

>Marxism is not about the fucking destruction of prosperity, or efficiency, or impeding innovation you fucking retard. Marxism is merely a catch-all term for ideas laid out in Marx's books, which I am sure you read.
Every practical application of it has ended in miserable failure due to outside pressure or the own incompetence of the people that declared revolution. Marx himself was the closest thing you could get to a NEET during his time period. I have read the manifesto and Das Kapital. Both of them suck.

>In order for socialism to actually happen, you need violent revolution that removes and redistributes the wealth of these people.
Who decides what is "equal redistribution?" You? The question then shifts to who the fuck gave you the moral authority to decide when when things are equal.

>Ever heard of the distinction between private and personal property you fucking mong?
Both are ascriptive terms that you have applied to arbitrarily distinguish different kinds of property via language. Guess what faggot, there is no such thing as a perfectly descriptive language, there is always an element of descriptiveness to it.

>Maybe if you didn't have your fist stuck so far up your ass while reading Marx you'd actually know the fucking difference.
Your opinion. How about you read a history book not written by some leftist jack off that can't face reality.

>implying that the companies that went into the soviet union weren't run by (((them))).
Please read the article.

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>>Not having to rely on backwards feels over reals ideas

From each according to their ability

The whole thing is a faulty moral premise

Marx was an idiot and his stupid ideas don't work

>feels over reals

Not really.

You can't just deny that race (literally genes) and culture don't effect how humans behave.

Marxists are autists that try to relate everything to economic materialism; because other factors fuck-up your supposed model for how the world works.

>Who decides what is "equal redistribution?" You?
The workers

stop telling fairy tales, marxist dirtbag

youtu.be/9zvrd5x-2uU

>this pleb has never heard of white communism

>ur dumb!!
>wead a book moran's!!
>ur mean!!
What Is Property was published about twenty years before Capital. It's not strictly a "product of socialism" even if ancom is the trendiest tendency at the moment.

Leninism is a defunct ideology and objective failure.

You likely adopted "syndicalism" and co-opted a largely defunct European platformist movement in response to Mr. Mean Man and not because you've actually familiarized yourself with Marxist theory. Don't kid these people, don't kid yourself. You'll be back in that voting booth and pozzing for the democratic ticket come 2020 just like all your cool "alt" internet friends with the rose emojis.

wtf, is that leonardo dicaprio on the far left lol

What is the first thing after the revolution
Kill the revolutionarys

Why should I not be able to freely trade goods and services with another individual or group, OP?

???

Yeah, Soviet Union hired foreign experts to help modernize its economy. They even got medals for it. It's how Soviet Union's economic output tripled during the first three years of The Great Depression. Did you guys not know this?

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1933/01/07.htm

>Now I want it clearly understood that I am neither Communist nor Bolshevist, I am definitely a capitalist and an individualist. . . . Russia is forging ahead while all too many of our factories and shipyards lie idle and approximately 3,000,000 of our people despairingly seek work. Jokes have been made about the five-year plan, and its failure has been predicted. You can take it as beyond question, that under the five-year plan much more has been accomplished than was ever really anticipated. . . . In all these industrial towns which I visited, a new city is growing up, a city on a definite plan with wide streets in the process of being beautified by trees and grass plots, houses of the most modern type, schools, hospitals, workers' clubs and the inevitable creche or nursery, where the children of working mothers are cared for. . . . Don't underrate the Russians or their plans and don't make the mistake of believing that the Soviet Government must crash. . . . Russia today is a country with a soul and an ideal. Russia is a country of amazing activity. I believe that the Russian objective is sound. . . . And perhaps most important of all, all these youngsters and these workers in Russia have one thing which is too sadly lacking in the capitalist countries today, and that is—hope!

>I owe no profits to those I do not know and may not care for
You've literally never had a job then. But this is Sup Forums, so not really a big surprise.

forgot
>starving to death

Marxism-Leninism is traitorous to the actual ideas of socialism. Google Anarcho-Syndicalism you ignorant fuck. Maybe if you didn't have the tip of your dick so far up your ass it's messing with your fucking brain then you would realize that there are alternatives that don't include things like state oppression, vanguard parties, and all the other shit that is neoliberal to it's fucking core.

>But muh fucking 100 million
Holy shit, you black book thumping idiot. I will link to my heavily contested comrade Noam Chomsky for this one (even though I know you won't read it): spectrezine.org/global/chomsky.htm

Soviet success was a sham to it's core, not to mention that they used the guise of socialism in order to oppress their own people. If you think I'm defending the soviets then you're a retard, and conversely if you think that the socialist countries that failed failed because of socialism then you need to read a fucking book and take a look at the history of United States interference with all elected and revolutionary forms of socialism around the globe. Marxism-Leninism

Why can't commie fags say what they mean in less than 500 words
You are wrong Marxism hasn't worked because it is a stupid idea

>NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS A NAME CARRIED OVER WHEN FUCKING HITLER TOOK CONTROL OF THE NATSOC PARTY

Hahahahahahaha. When he took the party over it was caleld the German Workers Party, he renamed it to the National Socialist German Workers Party. Try again.

>Fascism != socialism, socialism is the idea that we should fucking see each other as equals. That we should look at another man and say "You are my equal, and I am no better than you".

All Marxist egalitarian dogma and a Marxist interpretation, but we know that the word and idea of Socialism predates Marx by at least 50 years, so he doesn't have the monopoly on defining the word. Try again.

>Implying you didn't just read Das Kapital so that you could say you read it online to people like me on a fucking cuneiform discussion board in order to defend fascism

Actually at that time I wasn't a fascist, I had ideas of egalitarianism and could be almost considered a Marxist. Then the real world set in.

>if you don't want to be so fucking retarded and reactionary.

More ad hominem.

>Jews are not your problem

Jews are leading Libertarian and Marxist theoreticians and leaders of movements. Lenin and Trotsky were Jewish, Marx was Jewish, the financiers of the Bolshevik coup were Jewish bankers from Wallstreet, the leaders of hollywood are jews.

The leaders of the Sparticist uprising in Munich were 9/10 jews.

Then there's this picture. Jews are the leaders and primary beneficiaries of both Capitalism and Marxism.