Be me, 33 year old burger with no family other than single mother

Noah Hill
Noah Hill

Be me, 33 year old burger with no family other than single mother
Married to russian grill for 10 years in States and have 2 kids (1 & 4 yrs)
Lose job and fall on hard economic times, not enough money to live normally in burgerstan (preschools are 2k/month in this area, health insurance out of reach)
I have bad job prospects and she's been out of work for a long time
She's been amazingly loyal, we plan to stay together till the end

Based on the family's current situation, we have two realistic options.

1.) Move to Russia, kids will grow up surrounded by her large family, assume middle-class income and 3 br apartment that can be bought with cash immediately

2.) stay in the US, family of 4 will probably have to survive on 40k a year if I can even find work, no house or assets but enough for a downpayment on a mortgage at best.

What's the better option here? Assume
inb4 kill myself

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Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

Russia

Lucas Allen
Lucas Allen

Move to Russia, kids will grow up surrounded by drunken child molesters

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

move to Russia
kids automatically become shitty Dota players

Zachary Bailey
Zachary Bailey

Move to a small town with low cost of living, and get any job. You can make $11/hour in fast food or grocery store in many places. I see "hiring" signs all over here.

Small towns you can buy a house for like $75,000 3 bedroom, 2 bath. You don't need to spend money on private schools for kids. The important thing is to be there for the kids. Have the wife home to raise them.

You won't have to pay any taxes likely if you make less than $25,000 with 4 dependents (including you).

If your mother has a house, you can live with her as well.

Nolan Lee
Nolan Lee

2k/month preschool in that area

Wtf? Move. North east or west Coast?

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

Watch out who you get your advice from

Ask a few trusted people in your circle for advice is my best advice

I am not sure about the financial part but moving to Russia will be better your kids as family is very important

Good luck and don't kill your self. You have people who depend on you.

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

Russia a bit. Dont like it move back.

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

1.) Move to Russia, kids will grow up surrounded by her large family, assume middle-class income and 3 br apartment that can be bought with cash immediately
How about you don't ever breed?

John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

By move I mean like midwest or gulf coast area. Cheap to live and great professional jobs.

Christopher Anderson
Christopher Anderson

As opposed to...
Stay in USA, kids will grow up surrounded by obese shitskin child molesters while wearing hand-me-down clothes

Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

Move to the oilfield.. make 80k+/yr. 0 experience needed, just willingness to work and not a lazy fucktard

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

Let 'em move in with you, yankee. Gulf coast is full, no carpetbaggers allowed.

William Hughes
William Hughes

Family is nature's security net. If your wife has a huge family in Russia it makes sense to move close to them so they can help out. Plus ANU CHEEKIE BREEKIE DAMKE

Mason Sullivan
Mason Sullivan

Why so angry Ivan? We are family now

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

I mean fuck dude even hardees and taco johns pays 15-16$/hr in North Dakota just bc of the oilfield.. your wife can babysit other peoples kids while you work any job up here and make an absolute killing...

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

Where and how fuck I need this

Nicholas Hill
Nicholas Hill

Kek

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

I vote Russia, this shithole will probably Balkanize in under two decades anyway. I’m already working on my escape plan myself.

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

Maybe stop being such a pathetic fuck and go find a job. You can't even make it in America, yet somehow you think you'll do well in Russia where they have no sympathy for fat retards like you?

I'll give you some real advice - get some welding certs. Or study and get some IT certs, you can get pretty far with CISCO certifications and security credentials.

Or just keep being a retard and go try to move to Russia where you don't know the language or culture and no one will hire your dumbass.

Gavin Cruz
Gavin Cruz

What is your profession OP?

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

I’m already working on my escape plan myself.
Where to? Taiwan here

Jack Martin
Jack Martin

Bakken oilfield

North dakota.. take your pick of towns...

Williston
Watford city
New town
Killdeer

Watford is probably the best of the 4 as its the “sweet spot”

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

Would be careful of this. Layoffs come at the drop of a hat, and there's 3 experienced derrickhands and operators for every job opening.

Ayden Reyes
Ayden Reyes

Dickinson is more family friendly

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

Same here, already getting in on a company with headquarters overseas. Hoping I can transfer out of here ASAP.

Liam Thomas
Liam Thomas

Still working on that part but most likely somewhere in South America like Argentina... would prefer Northern Europe obviously but they might be just as fucked as we are.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

This guy gets it. I've been married 8 years and haven't had kids. I don't want to be poor.

Carter Phillips
Carter Phillips

There are plenty of other jobs to be had.. get a cdl and be a dumb fuck water hauler and make 22/hr to be half retarded... not just drilling..

Ive been here 7 years worked my way up through several different jobs till i landed directly with an oil company as a maintenance technician

Set for life

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

Agreed, its bigger and away from the riffraf but longer commute and less oil related work down there. Almost moved my family down from WC last summer but didnt wanna drive 1.5 hrs to work daily

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

Nice. What are you planning for as a job there? I'm in mechatronics to get in on their industry. What about language, how many hours a day are you putting into Spanish? I'm at 70-90 mins a day Chinese.

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

I try to do at least 30 mins on Duolingo, watch a Spanish movie now and then, and then do an hour or two from my textbook when I have time. I’m in law so it’s going to take some time to open avenues that would allow me to make a permanent move. I do have an LLM, which is like an international JD. If I get lucky I might get a corporate gig at some larger transnational corporation.

The way I see it the US isn’t going tits up tomorrow so we do have some time, but it’s a distinct possibility in ten or more years that shit could really hit the fan

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

even hardees and taco johns pays 15-16$/hr in North Dakota just bc of the oilfield.. your wife can babysit other peoples kids while you work any job up here and make an absolute killing...

That comes out to something like $30k/year, and houses in ND aren't cheap.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

going to South America to escape North America

you are a special kind of retarded

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

-Moves to Russia
-Doesn't know the culture of language and becomes totally dependent on "amazingly loyal" wife and family.
-Kills self in Russia
Your life literally depends upon your ability to find work here.

Camden Foster
Camden Foster

kek his Russian wife will leave him for a Russian man in no time

Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

If I have to choose between Argentina and New Babylon it’s an easy choice. At least Argentina doesn’t have niggers.

Sebastian Thomas
Sebastian Thomas

not staying in the belly of the beast

I'm going right to the heart of WW3 - Europe, baby

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

Never ever come to Russia

Jackson Green
Jackson Green

move to Russia
your children will grow up into white trash
don't risk it senpai

Logan Morris
Logan Morris

stay in US
kids automatically become gender neutral

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

GO TO RUSSIA. I am not raising my kids in fucked up America, I am moving to Poland when I have kids

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Just giving the berger some burger options...

Brayden Jones
Brayden Jones

Fuck you cunt. I bet youre from a clan of scallywags and youre just trying to compensate foe your well deserved shame

Adrian James
Adrian James

Russian isn’t a hard language. The job situation here in the states will get worse not better.

Your kids won’t grow up around basketball Americans...overall a net positive

I hope you had your children baptised as Russian Orthodox btw.

T future Orthodox priest

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

If you are entertaining the notion of emigrating to a foreign country which is our geopolitical rival then you never were an American to begin with, please do leave.

Joseph Flores
Joseph Flores

Move to Russia
That would be unwise for your well being, but probably will help Russians. You should travel Russia before deciding on that.

stay in the US, family of 4 will probably have to survive on 40k a year
That is more, than you can hope to have in Russia.

The best option, as I see it, is to send kids to study in Russia for 1 year.

Also consider, that there is war NATO vs "Russian" Federation in close proximity.

Jace Clark
Jace Clark

Go fuck yourself

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

I've actually been to Russia before, and yes I've been to the shitty apartment areas too. It was definitely depressing, but you have to realize that the USA is also a shithole.

I don't expect to make anywhere near 40k/year in Russia, but I don't need it as prices for everyday items are like 1/7th what they are in the states. Salaries worldwide are relative to the cost of living.

Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

Not really, friendo.

Also having much superior 100 IQ, I'm kind of obliged to share my thoughts on millenial generation leftism. These people never experienced what it is to be poor and have no rights. They take everything for granted. So sending kids to study in Russia for a year would be a good stepping stone for them to develop into successful individuals. As well as sending them to travel around China and continental Europe in their college days. Just do not make it traumatizing.

Nicholas Hernandez
Nicholas Hernandez

OP don't be fucking stupid and fall for the based Russia meme.
Literally go to the ex-USSR general on /int/, they all want to kill themselves for a reason. Like it or not, you will make more money here in the US than you ever will in Russia. And you and your wife can instill good values in your kids on your own if you aren't an inept retard of a parent.
Don't do it.

Jaxon Gutierrez
Jaxon Gutierrez

Ah yes, you've helped me see the light. How could I betray the glorious 56% hispanic-mulatto empire? What the hell was I thinking

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

Dear retard, did you read my comment?

I have given you legitimate advice. Your other option is to obtain your CDL, drive a shitty job for a year or so then get hired on at Fedex, some local drivers make 60k+ a year.

Alternatively, you could do any of the suggestions I mentioned and bartend one or two nights a week at a popular spot and make a lot of extra cash.

If you think any of my suggestions are going to be more difficult than relocating to RUSSIA then you have big surprises in store for yourself.

Yes, many parts of the US are shit and the economy here is becoming shittier. But there are still states you can move to that are not so terrible. Again, I've given you legitimate advice, and you choose to ignore it. Nobody in Russia is going to be friend to a foreigner like you.

Angel Parker
Angel Parker

OP it sounds like from your posts you already made up your mind about what you want to do.
Implying this isn't a LARP, what is your profession? Where in the US do you currently live? There are plenty of options in the Midwestern states too look at. Housing is not that expensive, and really the only thing you have to worry about are druggies and tornadoes (depending on where you go).

What am I thinking, you're probably just a hopeless slavaboo who wants to hear something good about Russia, so you made up a fake scenario to get some good feelings.

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

prices for everyday items are like 1/7th what they are in the states
Certainly not for food, clothing, shoes, cars, benzine, building materials and housing. OFC purchasing power index is mostly bullshit, but my own research show everything in retail is about 20% cheaper in USA for the same nominal aftertax income.

Also lurk about "quality double standards scandal". Quality of stuff inside EU differs drastically. Quality of stuff in Russia, compared to EU or USA, differs even more. Which is especially pronounced in clothing. I wear noname jeans bought in EU economy store for 2-3 years. Jeans bought in Russia in American brand store eithr go to trash in less than 1 season, or fit to me like some fucking potato bag. You basically spare money, if you fly every other year to EU to buy clothes. Taking prices of hotel and flight into account.

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

1.) Move to Russia, kids will grow up surrounded by her large family, assume middle-class income and 3 br apartment that can be bought with cash immediately
Despite the fact that Russia is a shithole, this seems like a better option than the other. Children get to grow up with their family members, and you'll definitely be more secure financially. Being surrounded by family may also make it easier to instill family values in your kids.
2.) stay in the US, family of 4 will probably have to survive on 40k a year if I can even find work, no house or assets but enough for a downpayment on a mortgage at best.
You can't support your wife, two children and yourself with 40k a year. All it takes is you or one of your family members to get badly injured or ill and you're fucked.

Move to Russia.

Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

I did. Maybe it's just the New England area but IT certs means competing with pajeets for 3-6 month contracts with zero benefits, for about the same pay that I mentioned would it not? And it would require me to borrow money just to finish one.

The CDL route means becoming a trucker, and never seeing my family does it not? And from my friend who works at FedEx, those guys have to take meth just to meet their delivery quotas do they not?

And on that kind of salary, what happens when I can't afford a $50,000 hospital bill because my son broke his arm? Do I have to lose the house that I've been buying for 10 years?

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

move to Russia so daughter can grow up and appear in Fake Agent videos

Dylan Hughes
Dylan Hughes

First aid costs about $3500 in USA and for treatment of complex fractures you can just travel here. Medical service would cost you about $2000 for complex osteosynthesis.

OFC you should support Russian visa or have Russian citizenship for your children. But that is the case for living in Russia too.

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

I know what aggregated macroeconomic data says, but having been to both countries and observing the prices at supermarkets I have a hard time believing those statements (unless maybe you're in some expensive area in Russia)

A loaf of GMO bread where I am is maybe $3.50, jut over 200 rubles. An equivalent non-GMO loaf is something like 50 rubles in a Russian suburb. When you put food together with rent and healthcare expenditure, Russian COL is a fraction of what it is in the US. It would be mathematically impossible to have a 1:1 ratio considering the low salaries over there.

But you're definitely right about clothing - the selection is bad in Russia.

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

preschool 2k/month
she's beet out of work for a long time

wtf? Why would you send your kid to preschool if neither of you are working?

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

I live in Moscow, but I travel around. Moscow prices, other than housing, are lower than in other areas. There are also some wholesale warehouses to buy food, which is not the case for other cities.

While incomes in Moscow and not are pretty much the same.

Cooper Price
Cooper Price

No shame here, bluebelly. You fucks stay up there where you belong, in your well shat up. nests.

Hunter Kelly
Hunter Kelly

My friend works for UPS. He's over 50. It's holiday time, so he's driving 70 hours a week. He's got a young kid and he's not stupid enough to take meth. It's exhausting sometimes, but he manages. Plus, I'm pretty sure his work insurance covers his family.

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

Hey that’s Manitoba oil you fucking scabs

Get the fuck out of here

Nathaniel Cox
Nathaniel Cox

be father
cant support your own kids

Aaron Diaz
Aaron Diaz

family of four can't survive on 40k a year
You aren't trying hard enough m8.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

kill yo... oh, just move to Rusia, economics aside, your offprings will thx you in the future for saving 'em from the dick of jamal gonzales, pedo-governor of New Tebas

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

Be me, 33 year old burger with no family other than single mother
Married to russian grill for 10 years in States and have 2 kids (1 & 4 yrs)

dumb piece of shit you've got a wife and two kids, that counts as family

Blake Mitchell
Blake Mitchell

preschools are 2k/month in this area

Why the fuck would you pay for preschool when the State offers the same services for free?

health insurance out of reach

So find a job that includes health insurance as a perk.

Cut your monthly expenses, stop eating out, get rid of cable, cancel your phone contract and get a pay-as-you-go phone. It's really not that hard.

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

survive on 40k
omae wa mou shindeiru
mrmoneymustache.com/2017/05/19/2016-spending/

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

$0 mortgage
$1900 property taxes

$40k would be fucking great under those conditions

Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

this

Andrew Harris
Andrew Harris

stay in America where the child molesters run for office and star in movies.

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

yea, it's paid off property from like 10 years of working in tech and investing before "retiring", where their definition of retire means still working personal side gigs instead of being an employee.

Robert Morris
Robert Morris

have to survive on 40k a year if I can even find work
Cry me a river. Relocate, take advantage of every single gibsmedat government program you possibly can. Don't move to Russia.

Fuck, dude.

John Morris
John Morris

He is a idiot that's what. Dumbass paying 20k a year for preschool. Should just move to a northern state in the USA. With 40k one can manage their lives quite decently even with kids, just a matter of money management.

Ryder Myers
Ryder Myers

Save up money from US and move to russia.

Be sure youre saved up for an apartment.

Best of luck OP hope you learn the language and find a job.

James Young
James Young

Now, real talk.
If you don't have any marketable skills, move to Russia. Otherwise stay in the US and be ready to relocate across the country.
You'll never move back up the social ladder once you moved to bumblefuckrk nowhertzk in Russia just because you could afford to buy a house there.

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

Preschool? That's a waste of money. Get a 40k per year job, make your beet-licking waifu a stay at home honest woman, and move to the rural Midwest. Cost of living there is Africa-tier and you could live like a god/king on 40k.

Chase Williams
Chase Williams

Move to Russia get some apartment. assuming her family is not from Moscow or St Peterburg because in any other city you can get a decent place of your own for about 20-35k. Live there for a while and if you don't like it sell it and come back to America.

make sure when you sell your place they transfer money into your account
try not to deal with cash too much over there. Good luck

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

Thanks.

I have a really old math degree from a top 20 uni in the USA and was able to get jobs when the economy was better just by knowing excel really well, but the jobs keep vaporizing and I suspect it's due to the enormous cost of employing people full-time in the US.

I thought I had marketable skills until I applied to about 400 jobs (including cold calling + out of state jobs) in the last few months and getting nothing but a few phone interviews which never went anywhere. I know that from Russia, if I can even earn manage a pajeet salary working remotely, I'll be fine since I can buy a property outright and not have to worry about getting raped by my landlord

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

Did you work as clerk? Those jobs disappear because people who know more than Excel have automated away most of the clerks.
Maths is very general, usual suspects would be banks, engineering/tech generally and government.

David Morris
David Morris

Moscow prices, other than housing, are lower than in other areas

Are you fucking high?
We have bread for 10 rubles for loaf, 1kg of meat is about 150-180 rubles.

t. neet from Voronezh

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

Stop LARPing. If you went to a "top 20 university" it would not even matter what degree you had.

Ryan Clark
Ryan Clark

I'm not religious but if you join the Vineyard Church it's huge. Why?
Free daycare
Free vacation home in Hawaii for a week or two a year
Job connections. They will get you a job among their members and you'll be able to support your family
Group health insurance. It's a good deal

vineyardusa.org/

Daniel Scott
Daniel Scott

since when is Sup Forums the advice board?

advice me ways to kill myself. Sup Forums

Josiah Scott
Josiah Scott

Small towns you can buy a house for like $75,000 3 bedroom, 2 bath.

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

not a lazy fucktard
Like that kind that posts vertical photos horizontally?

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Maybe things are better in Norway, but I can assure you that there are plenty of smart young Americans with degrees from prestigious US colleges that are being boned out of the workforce. And that includes STEM degrees, contrary to what the memes say.

Elijah Diaz
Elijah Diaz

Woah fucknut, according to your pic relted, it looks like you doubt that fact. Luckily you can look it the fuck up, instead of being a fact denying sad piece of shit.
.t guy who is buying a 50k house with two roomates in nj

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

Do not go to Russia, your status will plummet basically being an exile. Only do the expat thing when you'll be financially set relative to locals.

Make sure you do not let the hard times reflect inside your attitude. This is very difficult, and I am sorry to hear it. But women will lose respect for you, no matter how loyal they are, if you start sounding like a loser or quitter.

So be strong, say you are going through tough times, but outwardly show you are working hard. If you need solace at night from your wife, that is fine. But do not let the complaining start, or get stuck in the low-pay mindset, even if it is reality.

Been there, done that, trust me on this one. Soon as I "manned up" and owned my destiny, respect to me increased and jobs followed.

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

NA Dota lul

Zachary Long
Zachary Long

I don't need more of your LARPing. Next time you get an idea of playing the 'poor lower class man with a family' don't change your story midway and play 'ivy league math graduate turned lower class'.

You don't need to respond to this, I'm going to bed.

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

It's true. In the small Ohio town where I went to college, 4 bdrm houses were going for ~80k.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

go work on a russian oil rig
trust me

David Perry
David Perry

Thanks a lot for the advice. It's really tough, and when cunts like refuse to even acknowledge that white STEM graduates aren't handed jobs at US companies anymore it makes it harder to explain to most people in normie society why I have to consider such insane options.

But forget about my social status, it's not like it's very high in the US. Being a father is looked down upon nowadays.

Noah Sanders
Noah Sanders

He can live comfy in Russia tho. If he has a degree and has skills he do well. Tutoring English can bring money as well. Russia is more fun than most of Europe or America.

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

Literally go to the ex-USSR general on /int/, they all want to kill themselves for a reason.
The reason is that they're all homosexual and/or Jews.

Normal Russian people don't seek out anonymous American weeb forums to vent.

James Cooper
James Cooper

getting this defensive over that post

I need to stop coming to this website. it is infested with pseudo-intellectual redditors.

William Perry
William Perry

Normal Russian people don't seek out anonymous American weeb forums to vent.

Ivan, I...

Jackson King
Jackson King

Why did you make kids if you're broke ffs? That's some real nigger-tier shit. I hope you're white at least.

Dominic Jenkins
Dominic Jenkins

Sand niggers?

Easton Clark
Easton Clark

Russians like foreigners from western states.

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

But forget about my social status, it's not like it's very high in the US. Being a father is looked down upon nowadays.

Fuck off you retarded LARPist.
Your story keeps getting stupider and stupider every time you post

Hunter Ramirez
Hunter Ramirez

Well user do you have any people willing to help invest in you? I can show how to generate free power if you are interested in such things. I can show you a lot of things, prob not best for you to know in your current situation

Wyatt Murphy
Wyatt Murphy

Stop stealing our grilles, fag. Hope you move back and get mauled by churkas on your first date.

Isaiah Cox
Isaiah Cox

Don`t make a final move. Try to handle it for a while and you`ll realize people leaving eastern Europe for reason. If you can`t find a 20+ an hour job in US your life with two kids in Russia will be a pure suffering.

Jaxon Kelly
Jaxon Kelly

Never go to Russia! Your kids will kill you as soon as they understand what you have done.

Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams

Fuck off. I assume you're from a rural/traditional area? For most of my life here in the suburbs, I've seen fathers almost exclusively treated as wallets and prey for the family courts. Most of the people I grew up with have a very strong "child free" mindset, most are still focusing on "tinder puss" and weed. You call that high social status? LOL.

Jace Gutierrez
Jace Gutierrez

Try to handle it for a while and you`ll realize people leaving eastern Europe for reason.
Not sure about 'Eastern Europe', but Russia is a huge net immigrant importer second only to the anglo countries.

Adam Jones
Adam Jones

Fuck off, LARPer. None of your story adds up and nobody gives a shit about your worthless "social status."

Nobody who's unemployed is paying $2k/month for fucking PRESCHOOL.

Lucas Perry
Lucas Perry

Me getting married means one loose, overweight coal-burger girl for you to slam with the BRC, consider it even?

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

how many jews would you tell that to?

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

preschool being that price means wife can't work, as her watching the children > her take home salary, meaning I have to be the sole breadwinner in the situation.

If you were capable of reading you'd see that the only reason I was discussing social status is because someone mentioned that it'd drop if I moved abroad.

Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

ivy league graduate is a broke low status pleb
lad status: wew

Matthew King
Matthew King

If you can't find a job in USA, how the fuck do you expect to find one in Russia?

Or are you going to leech off your wife's family until you die?

Seriously you're sounding like a nigger with this shit. Grow some balls, work whatever the fuck you can find, and have a positive attitude.

You sound like a real loser mate.

Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

Stay in US, learn how to make deals and work out of this shit with your tongue.
There's always a way to do better. You have responseability, remember, it doesn't matter how much she's loyal, she still mere human and wants to live a good life.
You get what you believe you shoud get.

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

Learn a trade, you're only 33. Things are booming right now, anyone who knows how to build shit and is unemployed right now is a fucking idiot.

Connor Taylor
Connor Taylor

even considering moving at russia

Daniel Hill
Daniel Hill

Not every CDL job is long haul, retard. Most of them are local driving. You seem to lack motivation to better yourself. I have employees like you. They're getting fired after the holidays.

Isaac Ramirez
Isaac Ramirez

Just read the entire thread. OP has the worst mentality of any job seeker. People offer plenty of good advice, but all OP does is conjure up a bunch of excuses as to why it wouldn't work for him.

Sorry sunshine, but you have kids to feed now. Man the fuck up and stop making excuses for yourself. It's absolutely pathetic but doesn't surprise me for someone that married a Russian girl (which means you couldn't attract anyone in your own culture). I bet the first few years with her were super awkward.

Move to Russia? Don't be a fucking idiot. Unless you have marketable skills, then you'll be treated as a slave over there. Worse than USA. Fucking hell you sound like a teenager with the amount of world knowledge you seem to lack. Be a fucking man. That's the best advice you'll ever get.

Hunter Cox
Hunter Cox

Read the thread, he doesn’t. He’s a dumbass from the suburbs.

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

Rolling for Russia

Christopher Wright
Christopher Wright

I haven't had pussy in 5+ years
The Post

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

There's a huge emigration flow too, but it is dwarfed by the influx of Central Asians.
If he knows Russian, he probably can make more money tutoring Russian in America. Wages are 7 times lower here on average, while everything except property/rent costs the same. If you want a comfy life as a tutor, you should be moving to Korea or Japan.

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

the shitpost

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

go to russia. people are very christian and redpilled there

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

He's right though. OP is a faggot with a mail-bride, no skills and no job.

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

wow after reading ths post its clear to me russia is a much better country than the usa im nazbol now

Colton Watson
Colton Watson

I'd say you better learn how to squat

Jack Mitchell
Jack Mitchell

Move to Russia for a year and then ask your kids and yourself how it's going.

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

Instead of moving to Russia, why not just move to a cheaper state? There are plenty of places to live where you can buy a home for 25-100k then, get a job, and provide for your family. When I was in a long term relationship being a provider was pretty easy. You have a reason to work, and a reason to fight your way to better pay. There are also plenty of jobs out there that yes, will start you low, but give you plenty of room to grow. Just using this as an example, but there are places out there, for instance, a fire alarm company that are trying to grow. You can get your foot in the door at $12 and hour. Get them to pay for certain certifications that they're required to have based on the amount of employees they have. Then, suddenly, you're essential to that company, because if they let you and your certifications go, they will also have to get rid of a certain amount of employees that your certification allowed them to employ. Congratulations, you're now making 80k a year plus bonuses. All while making more in a year that the total worth of the house you live in. I used life safety job as an example because it's a thing that every single building in every single city in the country needs.

Elijah Jackson
Elijah Jackson

Poor people shouldn't breed. It creates offspring of the same weak, unambitious genetics and they will grow up with niggers and whiggers in the shitty American education system and become a white crime statistic. Unless you become middle class again, own a house and have a decent job don't breed.

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

Oh, and your wife. But I assumed she would be fine with it.

Robert Cooper
Robert Cooper

Nice bait.

William Roberts
William Roberts

has a math degree
cant even find work doing data entry

nigga take that excel shit off your CV and pick up a little python programming. I know most people with math degrees are dumb as fuck useless autists that couldnt even screw in a lightbulb in a group of ten; I know since ive been there; and we cannot all become team lead machine learning two years out of uni like i did, but fucking 'webdevs' with a programming bootcamp worth of experience have better job prospects than you are claiming.

protip: nobody i looking for excel wizards in russia either. if that is all you can do you do seriously need to consider killing yourself.

Landon Torres
Landon Torres

You make the ridiculous assumptions that I'd prefer being married to the modern American roast, and that salarymen aren't slaves. Cmon now.

I get your viewpoint, and at this point I'm just evaluating my options. Becoming a de-facto pajeet or truck driver, and having to constantly relocate for short-term contracts doesn't sound great

Andrew Hernandez
Andrew Hernandez

Tried Alaska?

Heard they pay people to live there, maybe job market is slightly better there.

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

I have a really old math degree
know excel really well
Learn programming. If you're good with Excel macros and you know what sets (basically data types) and functions (basically procedures/functions/methods) are, then you'll learn programming in little time.

Start with some basic courses here:
- codecademy.com
- coursera.org
- edx.org

gl

Dylan Kelly
Dylan Kelly

moving to russia
Never going to make it with that iq of yours

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

Clearly Russia except you forgot the part that Russia there’s a reason russian women will literally sell themselves to American men for a reason. Stay stateside. Things look shit now but here you have a decent probability of changing that. I work in an area with a large Russian presence. They all left because of money and most will not seriously entertain the idea of going back.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

Post you're grill pic, you fag

Adrian Harris
Adrian Harris

Apply at the railroad user. Good benefits good pay and you can take some stupid yard job make 60 grand a year and be home everyday. You make 100 or more grand a year if you go on th road but it doesn’t sound like you want that. Good news though, you can do yard job for months at a time and go on the road here and there to help boost your pay a little. But honestly it sounds like your mind is made up. I would advise against moving to Russia. Only because I know a few Russians who won’t move back.

Hunter Jones
Hunter Jones

pick russia user.

Ayden Walker
Ayden Walker

Rollarino for Russia, check deeze digitz

Angel Peterson
Angel Peterson

Moving to Russia is something you will likely very much regret. Muttland is terrible but Russia is far worse

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

If you have education - you can be a valued foreign specialist with good salary in Russia. It's a good chance for your family. But don't make citizenship here. While you're US citizen with residence - police and officials will be very careful and attentive to you. When you'll receive russian passport - they'll treat you like shit and probably throw you in jail if they'll have not enough criminals to satisfy the plan.
btw, say "Chechnya - kruto"

Joseph Long
Joseph Long

What kind of specialists would companies want? Do you mean like tech/programming skills like what the german guy was saying? I have a math degree but I haven't done much with it

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

a wild bohdi has appeared ;)

Camden Wilson
Camden Wilson

Do you think russians suffer from xenophillia?

Alexander Reed
Alexander Reed

Wish you the best of luck user, try to get into trades maybe? idk I have an IT job but the way I got it in was a referral, being overqualified did fuck all for me as well by itself.
If you don't mind, care to tell the backstory on your russian wife? I'm the same age you were when you got married and I'm looking at other options. Did you import her from Russia or was she already there? How old was she? Tips?

Kayden Smith
Kayden Smith

Move to Russia, the USA is done for

Blake Ortiz
Blake Ortiz

Being a lazy nigger on welfare

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

Putin has a hatred for child molestors unlike US democrats and hillary/obama child sex trafficking. Im not letting you take cheap shots at russia like that.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

As long as their white who gives a fuck. Go back and pay your tv licence. Dumb fucking bong stain

Ayden Green
Ayden Green

Quit larping for Putin faggot

Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall

pick up a little python programming
I've done this. How do I get a job from it? Do I just make a GH and add content until offers come in? I need a backup plan to make myself valuable.

Adrian Evans
Adrian Evans

Pretty much. Build a portfolio and also reach out to people and volunteer to help them to network.

Brayden Walker
Brayden Walker

that was an optimistic prospect of what his children are going to be like
worst case scenario is that they becoming junkies and/or start rotting their flesh away with krokodil

John Flores
John Flores

Well-off people who can afford aren't very fecund.

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

super rare

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

Look for IT jobs in Raleigh or Richmond if you have certs. They're both covered in them, but especially Raleigh. Raleigh you could eventually apply for and get a permanent job at Cisco where they pay out the ass. Both have cheap living and tons of jobs.

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