Millennial Woes calls out Sup Forums and others

He also says we would've killed Roosh in a different day and age for being a subversive brown guy, kek
youtube.com/watch?v=obdXbTZ-YSM

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I also agree with him, by the way. It was fun while it lasted but I'm done shitposting about the e-whores.

anyone here?

He is right.

I've been slamming against the youtube thots pretty hard the last couple of days, I'm not going to lie. He actually convinced me to stop, I'm sure a lot of other Sup Forumsacks will after they hear his take on it. He's always been respected around here.

Isn’t he a fag though?

I'm still in the phase of trying not to hang myself. The shit I've been exposed to here has caused me an extreme amount of psychological agony. I just came here to laugh, I didn't mean for this to happen.

I had to stop after 15 minutes when he started boohooing about how "the girls" are being treated and what brave women they are for delivering half-assed subversive alt-lite content for us mean shitty little men. And he obviously doesn't understand anything about the nature of women. He literally takes all of their talk about hating the attention they get seriously. But it's an obvious basic bitch lie. He just sounds stupid to me, but I can see how he would sound measured and rational by knights who are bluepilled on gender realism.

These are beta orbiting paypig shills btw.

No, he talks about it in the video.
Wew, sounds like you've only been here for 6 months?

He's mentioned he has a German gf in one of his vids.

>not trying to be in the second group

wish me luck lads

>I had to stop after 15 minutes
I'd listen to the whole thing dude, he addresses lots of points and acknowledges that anglin and even Roosh have a point. And I'm not a shill, I've been railing against the e-whores all week. Pic related is my OC. I think his perspective is important and I'm just asking you listen to all of it. I understand if you won't though.

Being hostile towards the vaginal jew is what has kept most Sup Forums boards from turning FULL SJW. Boards that did not like Sup Forums, /cgl/ and /soc/ are full reddit socjus lefty as a consequence of the betas that never put the foot down and told the thotties "TITS OR GTFO"!

Leftypol and shareblue shill are trying to subvert pol to attack Alt-Lite E-Celebs as E-Celebs have been the most destructive force to Globalist and Marxist rhetoric.
> "The enemy of my enemy is my tool"
E-celebs are currently one of the greatest weapons against globalism and neo-marxism and anyone who wants to dispose of them when they're still needed is either a fucking idiot or a shill.

>kept most Sup Forums boards from turning FULL SJW
There's Sup Forums then there's real life. That's a major theme in the video. You're also referring to O'Sullivan's Law, btw.

Spamming your gay bullshit isn't helping anyone, perhaps realize what the thread is about before you sperg out.

I agree. We need women in the alt-right, to normalize it. I was always dubious about McCarthy wanting to horn in when she isn't white, but I can sympathize, and she is high 80s. I don't pay much attention to any of the e-women anyway (except Blondie, who's very smart), so I didn't care much. But Roosh V, who's Iranian, not white, and a fucking rapist - no-one should pay attention to him.

Nah lurked for two years now, I didn't absorb it all right away. Spent months denying evidence, rationalizing it all to myself, was always thinking 'You guys have a point but that is a bit extreme'. I've watched my entire point of view, frame of reference, everything I thought I believed shatter before me. Sometimes I wish I never discovered this place. Even if I left tomorrow and never came back, I can never forget the things I've seen here. I always thought the redpill/taken out of the matrix must be an exaggeration, but it is not.

Women are necessary to normalize any political movement, commie shill.

I'm transitioning from despair to /fit/, it's hard and I want to die.

I don't pay attention to any of them and I was sick of seeing their shit all over Sup Forums. The only Youtubers I listen to is Ryan Faulk, molymeme when he does anything on race and IQ, Jared Taylor, NJF, and Woes from time to time. I think he did a good job with this video, he persuaded me and I was ready to purge all the women.
>Nah lurked for two years now
It gets better. I know everyone says that, but you'll be glad you took it.
Do you always comment in threads where you don't know the topic at hand? Quit running around like LSFinn, faggot.

...

Path 5.

See you in a decade user, when things are at their worst I will rise

I came back to Sup Forums 10 years after leaving it when I saw pepe's and wojaks and knew their source.

Then I found Sup Forums. At the time I was a questioning normie after realizing modern SJW's are no better than dark ages peasants screaming "THAT'S HERESY" and when I read brutal slaughtering of leftist sacred cows it was literally a shower of relief.

Fuck the left. Fuck their lies and dialectical horseshit. Fuck how offended they are and fuck their hypocritical lies. The truth is brutal and tragic but at least you can see it. It's the first step in fixing yourself and by extension this fucked up world.

Oh and the ride never stops.

Christ I'm in the same boat. Glad I'm not alone. I've gotten better over the last few days though and my aim is to follow the 2nd path

I'm listening to it again. I'm at the part where he just got done saying that two of these tradthots "want to get pregnant ASAP" but they're waiting for their bfs to propose because they're just so traditional and it's the man's fault obviously guys duh! What a load of shit. First of all, he just keeps falling for these basic bitch lies. He believes everything these women say to him. And he gives no thought whatsoever to the possibility that these men don't want to marry women who are committed careerist attention whores selling their sexual appeal to other men. He doesn't even mention it, he just has his small little victory dance in his head as if he completed the investigation into the thought. This is typical white knight fare. So far not a thing he's said has been anything other than boilerplate white knightery that we've all heard a million times before. And the video just seems to be one long string of this.

Translation
He posted here and everyone called him a faggot for posting something retarded

fucking desperate fattie cucking for sluts.

Literal reddit.

Honestly I don't give a fuck about the tradthots. i'm just tired of having 1488 thread a day about them. 2017 has been a shit year for Sup Forums mostly because of this. I can't fucking tell if the people who make these threads are shill/whitknights or just anons fishing for (you)'s.

I've just been here since the 7th fucking time it got shut down but ok

>And the video just seems to be one long string of this.
No, he goes into them being extremly effective, that most of the smaller channels directly grow because they draw in beta orbiters, he grants Anglin, Weev, and Roosh, all have good points but they are expecting quixotic standards for women that are impossible to exist in this current day and age. It was Lauren Southern who came out and asked people to support Woes when he was an obscure WN while he was working at the Rebel, something that's not characteristic of someone just in it to exploit beta bux, etc, etc.
In my opinion, with the points he raises, he's not just whiteknighting. I get it if you still want to purge the whores though.

Going to listen. Woes is a reasonable voice. Good man.

HOVER HAND NATIONALISM

I want to be path 5 but my country is not worth saving and would just tear me down.

I guess I'll try path 2 or 4

Strange, because I just got to the part where he said Anglin is "just wrong" about the nature of women sowing division in male spaces, which is not only well documented in our own recent history, but throughout human history. He takes no accounting for how the beta orbiters he views as so valuable, are the exact tools that women use to sow division, he just dismisses the whole concept as "just wrong" in the laziest manner. White knights are the foot soldiers of feminist subversion and they always have been. What he views as value creation is actually devaluation. But I'll keep listening. I think you're defending a brainlet though.

>I just got to the part where he said Anglin is "just wrong"
What's the timestamp?

Yeah, kinda like you and OP

Around 25:00.

I've been saying the same thing except that I think Lauren Southern is fair game because she is not even part of our movement and refuses to be.

What division has been instigated by these women or their "beta orbiter followers?" You can point to a reaction but you can't point to them being the spark for it.

Any division being created is by the people attacking them

Don't give up. Make it a social thing. Either befriend people at the gym or get friends involved.

God speed user.

This. Every fucking internet personality isn't there to mirror your (the prototypical edgleord neet) views. These people are not just valuable, they're a sign of the times and the future. And finally, for fuck's sake, what kind of a man harasses a woman online and calls her a whore when she's complaining about the EXACT FUCKING PROBLEM of our culture, which is that advocating for white interests is the highest possible sin. How fucking stupid and destructive do you have to be?

He said they aren't in politics, nor have political aspirations, they are strictly sticking to cultural issues. The timestamp is @ 25:00 and Woes says that there's nothing wrong with anything Andrew said, "except these women aren't creating conflict between men". Then he says he completely understands.

Also note all your progress (noting the value of excercise is step one. Deciding to do it is step two. First time excercising is step three. Going when you don't really want to and still have a good time is step four. Keeping it up for a month is step five. Turning it into a habit (doing it for three months) is step six.

After that it is harder to stop than continue.

love MW but women can't Alt Right because they need strong social programming to be loyal to anything.

One spark is Tara McCarthy's asinine tweet giving an ultimatum to "alt right" men. Woes' almost redpills himself on women here when he says, "well that's it's the nature of women to ask for help from men when being attacked," but instead of following that thought to a logical end, he veers off and takes the old feminist track of male insecurity. No, it's not male insecurity, it's the recognition of an observable pattern of behavior across spaces with similar circumstances. And as for your claim that the reactions don't matter, they're all that matter. What these women do is leverage their sexual market value in a high demand, low supply environment, and so when they are confronted for their ideas or their behavior in a way they do not feel comfortable with, they enlist the assistance, directly or indirectly, of men who have invested, time, money, desire, or some sense of self-worth, into the sexual value of this woman. This manifests itself into white knights generating infighting through tone policing and subversive attacks on first principles. But Woes is simply too much of a cuck to even consider this.

And THIS is how movements die.

Mate, women who are attracted to the current Alt Right are going to be fucked up because they think about race a lot. Same goes for many men, but the women endanger the movement because one minute they're alt right and the next minute they turn around and fuck a muslim or a nigger. That will kill and discredit the movement way faster than women staying on the left and dying their hair blue and refusing to have kids. Way more.

>love MW but women can't Alt Right because they need strong social programming to be loyal to anything
I don't think that's the point. The point is we can't shatter the movement and the WQ is being blown out of proportion. Plus the bitch is pregnant at the moment and maybe her hormones are going nuts.

>Any division being created is by the people attacking them
Kind of true, but also what is the origin of her plea if not unconscious female subversion?
>I'm gonna go bitch on Twitter and see who the real men are heheh

fucking hell that pic related makes a good point. Never thought about it that way before.

And he's wrong about Anglin being just wrong, and he's given no reason for it. He doesn't actually even really explore the meat of Anglin's argument. He just cherry picks a single quote out of context and then says something completely indefensible about it

I cannot hear him, his accent annoys me too much.

woes is 100% correct.

>Millennial Woes calls out Sup Forums and others

Butthurt over the sound drubbing I administered in a thread here several days ago. Oh boy did I rake him over the coals or what.

Openly, yes. He made no bones about it.

>"well that's it's the nature of women to ask for help from men when being attacked,"
You're leaving out the part where it's the nature of men to protect the women in their tribe. What he's talking about as "insecurities" is us being hyper aware of female nature and wanting to reject anything that comes from them that can be interpreted as manipulation.
I agree with you in more places than not, Tara fucked up badly, but he calls for forgiveness from both sides, not shaming men into being submissive.
Once we get off the ground and big we can have out knight of the long knives, now isn't really the time. It's too early.

You just proved my point.

I said you can't point to them being the spark for it, only a reaction. And then you go on to the typical mgtow talking points about women using their sexuality when the fact of the matter is they didn't instigate any of this.

If you want to claim Tara is some sort of feminist and was trying to use her sexuality to try and get some sort of special treatment then first of all, that isn't feminism

Second of all you can go on stormfront and see posts from Andrew Anglin where he says he doesn't think feminism belongs in the movement but he wouldn't attack, insult, or try to push out women who do, he'd just agree to disagree.

>>love MW but women can't Alt Right because they need strong social programming to be loyal to anything

Thats very spot on tho.

"we can't shatter the movement" is a pro Tradthots argument. So its not 'the point', its just your side of the argument. My side is that, having grown up in a society which programmes them with anti-traditional ideas, they can't be trusted to adhere consistently to trad without defecting and discrediting the movement. Men can be trusted because, first of all, trad is driven and created by men, and second of all, a man can't discredit the movement just by having an emotional meltdown and spreading his legs for a nigger.

Women attract huge amounts of attention, behave unpredictably, and have the power to create destabilising Lauren Southern style fiascos whenever they want. What's more, given the current state of Alt Right in the eyes of mainstream society, mostly fringe women are going to be attracted to the movement, and they're the WORST ones to have.

Look at this fucking dude. He's so fat and schlubby the only time his heart goes above 50bpm is when he has to open the refrigerator. Roosh would wipe the floor with this guy. Typical white nationalist: a big fat autistic pussy.

He wants leniency for degeneracy because he was degenerate earlier in his life. Not saying that's wrong, but that's what it is. I'm in a similar position desu but ewhores are ewhores

Nows the time when we need to be bulletproof though. Letting 'trad' women under our skin makes us weak and vulnerable.

>MUH BASED COALBURNERS

>women in politics at any level

Another thread about this chain-smoking, overweight, art-college dropout gay NEET who has never worked a job in his life and lived as a hikki NEET with his father until he was doxxed, huh?

>having grown up in a society which programmes them with anti-traditional ideas, they can't be trusted to adhere consistently to trad without defecting and discrediting the movement
I think they can be fanatical, more so then men, why couldn't they be. They might be dyed in the wool National Socialists one day and a feminist lesbian a week later. I understand this, but saying that they don't have their uses right now at this very moment is ingenious. We have to play the cards we've been dealt, are we doing better as a movement now, or in 2014? Not a rhetorical question, should we just go back to Anons, on imageboards or are we trying to go mainstream?

I read Anglins write up of the situation and I largely agree with him.

>Typical white nationalist

Just remember. We don't need these sluts. There will be plenty of other alt right groupies. Women are mostly interchangable

Jobless homosexual who constantly white knights women doesn't belong in the right. He's a racist liberal and doesn't want to solve the problems, he just doesn't want Muslims to throw him off of a building.

Go listen to Third Jimpact already

But the nature of men wanting to protect women when they demand it doesn't dilute my point, it strengthens it. Woes is experiencing cognitive dissonance. The nature of men meshes with the nature of women for a reason, why is why male spaces devoted to reason and the pursuit of truth have been traditionally closed off to women. That's not insecurity, that's a rational defense against a real threat.

I did point to a spark though. And the reaction. And they did instigate it by interloping in the first place. The reaction is what we have to deal with due to that intrusion. Nor will I let you dismiss a sound argument based on observable phenomena as simply a mgtow argument that you dismiss because you don't have a rational response to it. And I don't care what Anglin said on Stormfront. What he said in his Stormer article yesterday was generally correct and Woes strawmanned it and refused to address the heart of it.

>Letting 'trad' women under our skin makes us weak and vulnerable
I can see vulnerable, but Woes attests that they've made us stronger in numbers. We've grown exponentially and he attributes this to coverage from the women. I don't think he's lying.

fuck off moarpheus

They haven't made 'us' stronger they have made 'them' stronger.

Woes is a homosexual, he hangs around other homosexuals like Greg Johnson and TRS.

He is not on OUR side. He is an enemy pretending he is one of us because he's terrified of Islam. He can't smoke fags all day and watch DVDs if they kill him for sucking dick.

>Alt Right
oh nevermind it's not moarpheus, it's the iranian

>The nature of men meshes with the nature of women
Of course, the reason why you're not seeing eye to eye with the perspective is because you don't see those women as your tribe. You see them as exploiters and manipulators, this is where we run into the issue. He seems to think they are very much part of the tribe, he trusts them.

> kek

What did he mean by this?

Looks like this Nick Fuentes kid doesn't learn. Still wants to fan the flames and act like a little child:

twitter.com/NickJFuentes/status/939751186818850816

That spic is the most subversive little shit in the entire alt-right circle.

And hi Nick, I know you're reading this.

>Woes is a homosexual
He address this in the video, you should give it a watch before you criticize the content of something that you haven't seen.

>moarpheus
Thats not Moarpheus
There's a distinct lack of Duginism, TRS-shill calling, or 'alt-right are commie Duginists controlled opposition by the CIA' claims in those posts
>Woes is a homosexual
pic related

>I did point to a spark though
No you didn't. You pointed to a reaction.

If someone tries to set my house on fire and i ask for help that isn't me instigating a situation, it's a reaction.

As for your claim that they instigated it by interloping to begin with, well that's just horseshit because nobody is saying women don't belong in the movement at all.

So if women are welcome, and someone instigates a situation with them you can't then turn around and say they instigated it by being there in the first place.

And if you do then you're just making retarded, insecure, mgtow arguments which is evident by your obsession over them using their sexuality to create division when they didn't instigate anything to begin with.

i know. i realized it's the "nazbol" iranian (arab) when they started saying "Alt Right" verbatim. another telltale sign is them using "#AltRight", on Sup Forums of all places.

I really wasn't expecting this reaction from him.

That's a terrible analysis with no basis in truth at all. It's not that I don't see them as members of my tribe, it's that I don't see women as fit for male pursuits like the building and maintenance of civilizational institutions and constructs. Their role is in the home and in the home only. The reason for that is because men are more evolutionarily fit to deal with the trials of the big world, and so that is the task nature has assigned them. When you introduce women into that equation, domestic instincts are transported into that male space and it manifests itself in white knightery. Because healthy men who are in said space for the purpose of transcendent truth, and not for crypto-sexual reasons like the knights view them as sleazy, underhanded, bad faith actors, division becomes inevitable.

Multiple videos he talks about how he is bisexual and fucked men in university.

It's almost like you don't know who these people are or watch their content.

Racist liberals are the enemy. They don't want change

The video is an hour long... The thread will probably be archived by the time most of us get done watching it.

Anyone know the Woes vid where he's in the shop he used to work at and he's talking to Sup Forums? I don't know if it was Sup Forums exactly but he was answering questions

How do you define "liberal"?

Wrong. I pointed to the spark of McCarthy's tone policing, and white knight reaction that followed. And Tara's house wasn't being set on fire. Horrible analogy. She was in no danger and her cry for help was a conscious decision she could easily have avoided making. And yes, many of us ARE saying women don't belong in this space, and have been for quite a while, warning you knights the entire way of the danger of your behavior. And now the evidence to support our argument is appearing yet again, as it always does.

>I don't see women as fit for male pursuits like the building and maintenance of civilizational institutions and constructs
Neither does Woes, he ceded to Anglin about this. He's saying they're are explicitly not getting involved in politics, they're counter culture commentators, they don't comment on Iranian influence in the ME because they're all half-retarded and couldn't even if they wanted. It's at 25:00 minutes unless it's me who's misinterpreting this.
A message of women in the home and only the home will not work right now. I'm sorry but it just wont. I don't know if you're solely counting on revolution, but I'm still taking this on from a democratic angle.

nice proof faggot. and even if he were bisexual, what of it?

this movement is fucked, couldn't even withstand just three people making the same thread and posting the same replies over and over. enjoy being chimped out on, or watching your grandkids get turned into kebab.

He's unironically retweeting and suddenly best buds with a NazBol account (some incel fag named Shawn who looks like a mongrel and the epitome of the 56% face meme).

>That spic is the most subversive little shit in the entire alt-right circle.
jesus alt righters are so fucking retarded. Nick has an alternative viewpoint and suddenly he's a "subversive shit". Listen to his podcast about it, he actually makes reasonable points in either direction.

Dude, watch the video in the OP instead of arguing with some cunt. He went through a homo phase when he was 17. He was also an anarchist at 17. He talks about how dumb it was and how people grow up. He's not gay.

i don't give a shit

That's slimy Jew talk. When he says "they're not involved in politics, but culture, guys!" that's just a way to usher them in through the backdoor. This is an intellectual space created by men, which even Woes conceded. Introducing them into it, whether it's politics or not, has a natural divisive effect that simply cannot be avoided. You're not going to avoid this conflict so long as women are visible figures in this space.

I think they are irl friends and have been friends for a long time. I don't understand the dynamic and am not going to pretend to. I like NJF, I really do, but he should take it easy with that blatant disrespect.

>you can't avoid this conflict i'm forcing
nice one moarph

I'm currently somewhere between 2 and 4.
I want to have both and be a good father to 6+ white kids, but if i get screwed by Life i will be content with the 4th path