As an American, is free healthcare really so much to ask for? Every other first world country has it...

As an American, is free healthcare really so much to ask for? Every other first world country has it. Is it really so much to ask for, that when I go to the doctor, I don't get slammed with bills? If almost all other Western nations can do it, why can't we?

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Because you have a population substantially more large than every single other Western nation. So your welfare class will always be too proportionally big, and while there will be a lot of you paying in at once - there will also be too large a critical mass of people cashing out insurance at once. So it will be a constant pie plate balancing contest to generate revenue, creating an ever growing and more burdensome public healthcare system that siphons the public coffers dry - for mediocre, sub-par service and unfirable liabilities.
>t. I have to wait six hours in the ER, and the NHS is even worse

>wanting free health care

fuck off, you get cheap health care you faggot

>5 dollar a consult with general physician at most pharmacies
>20 bucks max for your medications
>specialist are 20-50
>give you latest medicine

oh wait you fags sue people over diarrhea.

But as other nations get more and more populous, I feel like they would still never give up their healthcare.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You have a population of almost 400 million. None of those countries are ever going to even be close to your size. Also, did you know there are diseases with medicine that cost 500 thousand dollars to 1.5 million - and these diseases only occur in 1 every 10 million people. Your system would crash from that alone - and it already has. I also like how you conveniently ignored where I told you that our public health care systems are ALREADY failing.

Wtf I have to pay like 30 dollars for a consultation.

What a load of horseshit
Multiply those numbers by ten and you at least enter the ballpark

I hope you guys realize I meant that the closet the USA will get is cheap healthcare,but then I remembered you sue for anything including muh feelings

They may pay more but they also have higher quality physicians. Their medical colleges are world renowned and their pushing boundaries in the science that we can't even dream of. The doctors here blow ass - and they have no way of competing among one another. Unless they're specialists.

I think you mean the jew you more, cause the patients will try to jew them for distress,and a bunch of shit like this medicine gave me some diarrhea.

The only one who should get more pay are the people doing break through procedures.

>I also like how you conveniently ignored where I told you that our public health care systems are ALREADY failing.

But they are not failing, I always hear how the healthcare system in Canada, Germany, Sweden, Denmark etc are always so great and everyone gets free healthcare. The USA's system is much more of a failure in comparison where people can't even afford basic medical treatment

We literally just pioneered uterus transplants to allow people without uterus to make baby.

They rip the uterus from a swedish volunteer, put it in no uterus girl, go on anti-rejection pills for a year, get preggers, shit out baby, then do a C section and have baby.

Evidently swedish girls will donate uterus for free.

Cost is surprisingly cheap, around the same cost as kidney transplant, or 200,000 ish.

Trust me the doctors here are garbage, they'll just prescribe you pain killers for literally anything. I have a friend who went to a Dr. here and said she was severely suicidal, and all he did was give her a pamphlet. She was in and out in 5 minutes, I went to give her some support. They also secretly sell their opioids to homeless drug addicts - but that probably happens everywhere.

>But they're not failing
Yes they are, I'm living in Canada dum dum. Lol I have family in the UK. It's not a successful system because some fucking Commie tells you it is.

We already get free treatment, retard. The reason medical costs are so high, besides the whole lawsuits bullshit, is that you're subsidizing the niggers and illegals. Only 1 out of 4 hospital visits have anyone even put money towards the bill. Only 1/6 actually pay off the entire tab.

You're subsidizing those other 4 people. Exactly what you wanted though! Free healthcare!

free?

It is too much to ask if you're not willing to pay 5% more taxes or giving up some other commodity. What gov institution should be defunded to make budget for healthcar? Education? Gun control? Border control? Emergency services?

My experience with American medical system is we don't know, medicine does not cure anything, it just helps your body fix shit itself, that will be a 20 dollar co-pay,and here is prescription for some advil and a generic allergy medication.

>free?
This is exactly it, it's not free anywhere. There's a reason we get taxed the shit out of more than you guys, and we pay a WAY higher cost of living here. I don't want to be subdsidizing fucking people's medical problems - you like to play the violin and pretend that the majority of cases the medical system faces are people who just got unlucky. But a huge deal of it is people making stupid choices, eating horribly, smoking, living a bad lifestyle and doing dangerous shit. Especially when the idiots think they have a "free" safety net. All that's happening is you're footing the bill for people - you might even hate. And if you're a productive, money earning guy - why the hell should I have to fund these idiots? I have so many stories, of people I personally know fucking up retarded stuff and costing the public hundreds of thousands. (Which they themselves still have to pay a lot of in "Free" healthcare.) "Free Healthcare" is just an Orwellian political bumper sticker, slapped onto the State so you vote for it. It needs to referred to as Socialized Medicine, or - just another involuntary wealth transfer to quote our Lolbertarian friends.

>countries with small populations that are mostly white can have universal healthcare, so surely it will work in a country with several hundred million with tons of niggers and illegals to subsidize since they don't pay jack shit
We have more nogs and illegals than countries like Sweden and Denmark have people, stop using them as examples the US could copy

What we need is to fix is how much medical care costs. Some of the costs are ridiculous and completely unwarranted.

>Invests in best insurance out there
>Still has to pay for consultation, medication, doctors visits, etc plus the gas to get there, the time off from work, losing pay from skipping work, etc.
>"Free healthcare"
>Costs more to pay in to healthcare than it does to pay the fee at the end of the year for not having healthcare

If you really want to make a difference, force hospitals and big pharma companies to stop upping prices by 200%. Legislate a law there and there will be no need for "Health Insurance" anymore. It's just ne big ploy to make you pay more money for the greedy assholes on the white summit.

You doctors may be shit, but you surely don't want ours.
Over here they will prescribe you with drugs you don't need with the sole purpose of numbing your mind. They will hoard more information about you than even you know yourself, then give it away to the government to do who knows what.
Our "doctors" here are pure evil and every day I live in great fear of getting injured so badly, I have no choice but to go to one.

>free
>paid for by taxes

Your probably a NEET so it would be free for you but not for everyone else you fuckng leech

Every nation is struggling in one way or another to keep healthcare going and there are tradeoffs everywhere.

It certainly isn't the case that everyone except the USA has the perfect system.

The main problem - exorbitantly high costs - won't go away with socialized medicine.

They do that exact thing here - that's what I was just complaining about. Didn't you read my thing? It's exactly the same here - you guys just don't have to pay for other people to go through that exact same bullshit buddy. Well you do - but, not in the same way. Also you have been mislead - people pay here all the time. I had to pay 6000 thousand dollars for my braces and dental surgery. My parents have had to pay thousands over the years as well. Pretty much everyone I know has. But I also that most people who do have giant medical bills - often have it for stupid reasons. Like if you're going skiing and you get injured, or snowboarding - or if you're drunk driving, or if you stab yourself in the kitchen and need 12 stitches. Or you roll around in the snow naked, because people actually do that here in a weird New Years thing. So - your conception of who needs this healthcare is skewed by people who don't want to help themselves, begging you for money. Which I think is in many ways a moral hazard. And it doesn't play out in reality how you think it does in your head.

Most people would be willing to pay higher taxes if they actually got something out of it. And maybe defunding the outrageously bloated military budget would be a good start.

Cost , Quality, Access... You can only have two. Theres no such thing as free anything, so what are you willing to trade for "free" healthcare?

You guys should just defund NASA. What's the fucking point beyond Sci-Fi to go into Space? You have 400 million mouths to feed, you need to stay a military empire. That can't just disappear over night. A lot of the world needs you to do it as well. But NASA? Come on, that's just ridiculous - do we really need to spend billions to fly to a ball of dust and iron, when our own planet is still not in order? Where peace on Earth is still not a reality? What's the point of that right now?

I would be willing to trade having our government spend billions and billions on occupying foreign countries

fucked up thing is that people who dont have health insurance who come into ERs for medical treatment and can’t pay or even do a payment plan, the hospital just dumps the bill on the next person who has health insurance. This is why getting a couple of stitch’s end up being like 400 dollars

Yeah well your society and economy would collapse. And then nobody would get healthcare. Again you naively assume that 400 million people isn't a substantially larger amount of people than say Denmarks 3 million, or Finlands. Or say Canada's only 33 million, which is less people than all of California. These aren't comparable things. You should consider doing this at a state level of you want. But tax is an involuntary transfer of wealth - saying I want to steal someone's car isn't an excuse to steal their car. And again - it isn't free, you're still paying tens of thousands of dollars. No one wants to live through the fall of Rome.

Space exploration and scientific research can produce inovations and move mankind foward while 400 million mouths to feed can only produce ... even MORE mouths to feed.

Plus, medical care is literally devolving mankind by allowing stupid people to go on living and having more kids, ruining the process of natural selection (see Idiocracy).

The world is overpopulated with useless eaters, the last thing we need is medical care.

Yeah the US needs a good culling, its becoming a giant cesspool of bad genetic, and is doing lot of damage on good gene pools.