In each and every species on this planet mating happens as soon as the female is fertile (and sometimes a little sooner).
The only exception is us humans.
But we are no true exception: Most men would like to mate with girls as soon as they are fertile. But it is artificially suppressed - by making it illegal.
Why is it illegal? What is the TRUE reason?
Boys and girls are allowed to have sex with each other, for example two 12-year olds. But somehow, as soon as the male turns 16 or 18, he is SUDDENLY FORBIDDEN to have sex with younger girls. Why? What is the problem, where is the possible harm to anybody?
Only white people like to think that we are like animals when we aren't. you are the snake in the garden of Genesis,who becomes a big dragon in Revelations. We are above all beings but are on a low level because of fucking cocksuckers like the shill op.
Adrian Stewart
>the only exception
Were you made in Canada or something? Go learn more about nature.
Juan Johnson
Jumping spiders waste a month of their short lives and fertile period eating low t males.
Hudson Lewis
This
Jason Hill
if you think of yourself above nature you are weak and a kike.
Aaron Price
We have noticed that it tends to have adverse consequences, not just for the young females but also for their families and thus for society as a whole. That is why it was made illegal, a decision based on logic and the use of superior intelligence. The same is true for many other things animals do that humans have outlawed.
Gavin Powell
so what you're saying is: lets all be animals? also KYS pedo.
Mason Long
Go take a shower.
Asher Ward
The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.
Hudson Lee
Actually he's saying have sex, but the subtlety was lost on you.
Jackson Morris
Ephebophilia is a myth, and every man in the planet knows it.
Jaxon Adams
I'm sure there are examples of other animals where they don't immediately have children after becoming fertile.
But to answer your quetsion- it is because a 30 year old man fucking a 12 year old girl feels to many people like rape. Now was this how it naturally used to be? Quite possibly, but you'll note that nature is chock full of rape, so this isn't really a moral argument, unless we're saying we just don't care about rape- which is a rather different and more extreme position.
So we take age 18, which is somewhat arbitrary, but probably about the right time, and say this is the cutoff, to protect the younger people from abuse, even if it is unnatural. The actual average age is probably more like 16, but there are still a bunch of immature 16 year olds so if you put it a couple years later than the real average you catch more of them.
Some people simply never mature and can always be taken advantage of, not even just retards, but just weak people. Our law has no provision for these people because how could you enforce that.
Juan Torres
>I'll take "Things that differentiate the dominant race on the planet from the rest of mud-dwelling eukaryotes on the planet Johnny"
Slippery slope herring thread.
Nolan Hernandez
I agree with OP. We should have more threads like these.
Dylan Clark
Precisely true user. You could say the same thing about murder.
Brody Thompson
We've been differentiated from the other lifeforms for quite some time. Guess what has been going on for the majority of human history?
Lincoln Hall
Guess what happened in the last 300 years :D
It's almost as if the more illegal it gets, the better off we are.
Really activates those almonds.
Benjamin Phillips
The real issue here is the idea that all sex is abusive in nature. Unless you believe that an activity of having sex is inherently harmful for a person, your argument doesn't work. If a 30 year old lady came up to 10 year old me and blowed me, I wouldn't consider that to be abuse. If anything, it would contribute to my sexual maturation. So why is it illegal for her to do that? Because you define that act as abuse and dismiss it as something that has a negative impact. Well where are the proofs? Me not having sex until 23 is much worse than me getting my dick sucked at 10 as far as I can see. Bring me proofs that it isn't, then we'll talk.
Grayson Price
>Guess what happened in the last 300 years :D Constant decay of the west? Really makes me think.
Aiden Carter
> But somehow, as soon as the male turns 16 or 18, he is SUDDENLY FORBIDDEN to have sex with younger girls. Why? What is the problem, where is the possible harm to anybody? It's a law made to protect younger individuals from older people, who are in a far stronger position than them (both in terms of [legal] authority and physical strength). Sure, there might be situations in which both a very young person and a legal adult consented to having sex, but keep in mind that an adult could not only quite easily overpower a child, but also use his/her more powerful position to threaten it into feigning consent to outside observers, without anyone else ever noticing it. Also keep in mind that children - especially younger ones - tend to be easy to manipulate.
Strictly punishing sexual activity between adults and children is the only way we have to protect children without granting them legal statuses as adults (not an option) or genetically accelerating the development of their minds (science fiction).
If you want to see what becomes of societies where those laws do not exist, look no further than Islamic countries, where under aged girls are married off to >50 year old men, while young boys get raped by older men who somehow think that it's neither gay nor adultery if what you are fucking is a young boy (I've given up making sense of Mudslimes barbaric practices, so don't ask how that makes any sense).
But hey, you might see what it would look like first hand in a few decades. At least when our intersectional Feminist left doesn't stop their eternal quest to flood this country with "peaceful, progressive and feminist Muslims"
Easton Wood
guess what happened to the civilisations that allowed pheadophilia? rampant pedophilia and sexual deviance is a sing of a decaying civilisation.
Brody Russell
I never said anything in support of Pedophilia.
Brayden Sullivan
disgustin shit skin kys
Angel Sanchez
...
Carson King
There's a lot of countries with 16 as the age of consent. This seems to me a lot more reasonable than what we have going on in america. Selling off our 9 year old daughters isn't exactly where we should go but 18 is probably a little much.
Jack Myers
disgusting. I hope all of them got a visit by the police. Preferably with lethal consequences...
Blake Baker
its illegal to protect you from the girls father who would murder you if you had sex with his child
Aiden Garcia
fuck you idiot it should be raised to 20
Bentley Rivera
typical hans
Asher Howard
This is the type of deviancy that leads to societal collapse.
Kevin Reed
Why not higher than that? Why not just keep raising the age of consent so that we destroy the number of viable birthing women thus increasing the value of a legal fertile woman to amounts that bankrupt even middle class men?
Ryan Clark
kill with fire
Cooper Martinez
Nice try pedomany
Caleb Powell
>protect younger individuals from older people, who are in a far stronger position than >them (both in terms of [legal] authority and physical strength
Nonsense. Gym-muscled boys of age 14 are also much "stronger" than the girls age 8-100 they are allowed to have sex with.
>tend to be easy to manipulate So are retards, drunks, drug-dependent junkie-females, Down-Syndrome females and females who have "fallen in love" with a man; also females who "need money", you know, not exactly for food, but for luxury goods. Here, somehow nobody sees a problem...
And even young girls are perfectly able to FEEL if they want to have sex with a man. Older women use EXACTLY THE SAME DECISION PROCESS to determine if they want to have sex.
>we have to protect children WHY? I am a grown up man. I now know about my youth and adulthood. I KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE NOT SUFFERED, INSTEAD WOULD HAVE ****ENJOYED**** TO HAVE SEX WITH A GIRL OR WOMAN AS A YOUNG BOY.
MY OPINION HAS NEVER CHANGED: At age 8, 18 or 28, I would have wished to have sex with (hot) older women. IT WOULD HAVE NOT HARMED ME IN ANY WAY.
Adrian King
I think in fact that if that had happened to you at age 10 you would not have liked it and it would have negatively impacted you. There are honestly a lot of accounts of how children feel when they're abused, and the general trend is that they feel ashamed, confused, betrayed, and dirty.
Juan Hall
We shouldn't be making those decisions based on what sounds right. There should be scientific discussion, actual scientists should research how sexual activity impacts your development at different ages. As I said, I'm pretty sure if a lady sucked my dick when I was 10, I'd have a healthier attitude to sex than I do now. But that's just my opinion, I need scientific proofs instead of moral judgement. And nobody cares to research those things because it's a sacred cow and you can't even talk about it without being on a list.
Luke Green
i agree but girls have different physiques
Jordan Russell
You be an animal and fuck children and I'll be an animal and hang you by your own intestines.
Fair?
Liam Bell
You want a modern, advanced society? That's the cost. Go live in ooga booga land and leave all tech and medicine behind. Then you can fuck all the "fertile children" you want. But just know her family will burn you alive if they think you're pumping and dumping. Oh and she's your wife now. Forever.
Hudson Lewis
Again, you're using the word "abused". Most of that abuse is by relatives. No shit they don't like it. I don't want my mom to suck my dick, not at 10, not at 30. Remove abuse from this equation and I don't see how a 30 year old lady sucking my dick is different from me playing doctor with a girl my age.
Hunter Carter
We can come up with logical arguments from what we do know though. Possible extending the consent ages so that you can't have a 40 year old and a 16 year old shacking up but allowing a 16 year old girl to choose guys from an age where it's pretty established if they'll have a good career or not could reduce their failure rate. How many quality females have bet incorrectly on a 16 year old boy that had potential but wasted it all?
Dominic Cox
We call those dumb sluts.
Connor Wood
You're a violent nigger, not a human.
Isaac Brooks
>You want a modern, advanced society? That's the cost. How exactly?
>Oh and she's your wife now. Forever. Why? Out there, millions and millions of guys and girls have sex with each other, and then never see each other again. They are only sex toys to each other, there is no love, no marriage, nothing more than sex. This is the norm, it happens RIGHT NOW, not far from you, and everywhere in the world.
Sex without love/feelings/marriage is exactly that: People using each other as sex toys, human, living sex toys. It happens in children, teenagers, and adults. THIS IS THE NORM.
Only, for some reason, as soon as a male is past age 18 or so (depending on exact local legislation), at one second at midnight he somehow switches from perfectly legal fornicator to child molester. Why?
Michael Barnes
cause youngshits are unable to be mothers
Wyatt Sanchez
Pedophilia is not a crime. Pedophiles that have have not raped or molested a pre-pubescent child are not deserving of death. You can't murder someone for a state of mind, otherwise it would be just to kill all the LARPers that want to murder Pedophiles. Child rapists should be executed.
There is nothing biologically wrong with attraction to females capable of ovulation and breeding. That said there is at least some evidence to suggest females breeding as early as 11 can threaten the life of the child and the mother, for this reason I'd advise waiting to impregnate your early adolescent wife until she is 16, since most females will be able to safely breed by this point. It is imperative that we strive to repair society and free it of degenerate. (((AoC))) laws help create such degeneracy by normalizing premarital sex.
The female's place is in the home. Betrothment is a necessity. A female having multiple mates damages her ability to "pair bond", Microchimerism also permanently soils her eggs. Commie "feminists" pls go and stay go
Allow me to reiterate: Pedophilia is a mental illness such as Homophilia or foot or scat fetishists(Thought foot and scat are less extreme and pose less of a threat), and the mere presence of thoughts is not justification for killing these individuals. Those Pedophiles that abuse pre-pubescent children are irredeemable trash that deserve nothing but death.
Hebephilia is perfectly natural and attraction to females capable of producing eggs to be fertilized is not comparable to attraction to pre-pubescents. While this is true, it isn't generally healthy to breed until the female is around 16, so she should wait until she is that age and married.
If I'm wrong, please illuminate me.
>b-but children can consent! >b-but women deserve freedom to whore around! >b-but the laws developed by man over a couple hundred years trump tens of thousands of years of biology! >b-but my feelings! You deserve to be crucified.
Thomas Wilson
Remember to ignore an hide shill threads
Asher Hall
That's just idiotic. It's one of the reasons Pygmies are pygmies:
Sexual contact with youths is not only damaging to the psyche but for total physical and hormonal development. It's like using a building that's still under-construction.
Henry Harris
>cause youngshits are unable to be mothers Contraceptives work in young girls the same way as in older women. CHECK REALITY: Inform yourself about hormonal contraceptives prescription in your country and all over the world: In the US, GB, EU - often more than half of young teenage girls are "on the pill". Get real, almost all of them have sex from a young age. Check it with data from contraceptives prescriptions, and check the rates of teen pregnancies and abortions - most young girls have sex, drama, abortions etc. ANYWAY. Still, as soon as men are 18 those girls are suddenly forbidden fruit. WHY?
Jack Cox
hello mohammed
Isaiah Mitchell
the true reason is young girls have similar dangers as very old women when it comes to pregnancy. More risk for the child and for the woman. We are not animals so we don't have to act out every biological impulse
Charles James
>going through such lengths to write bait of this scale
oy vey
Aaron James
>Pedophilia is a mental illness such as Homophilia or foot or scat fetishists(
You ignorant fool. Foot fetishism is the most frequent fetish in men, with a frequency of around 40%.
If foot fetishism were a mental illness a large minority of men would be crazy.
Are you making up the things you think you know? Why are you writing such nonsense?
Christian Hill
Because he wants to fuck kids and in his mind 2+2=5 so fucking kids is alright as well.
Jackson Murphy
>Sexual contact with youths is not only damaging to the psyche but for total physical and hormonal development.
Any proof for your feelings?
I would have very much welcomed to have sex as a boy with older (hot) women. I am perfectly certain it would have done me no harm, rather the opposite.
Easton Jenkins
Mental illness does not mean crazy.
Carson White
>But somehow, as soon as the male turns 16 or 18, he is SUDDENLY FORBIDDEN to have sex with younger girls.
Somewhere you have to draw the line. Otherwise it would be a slippery slope. I know the age of consent is 14 but she's a very very mature 13 year old so please make an exception its just one year and there you go. The next one will say "you made an excepton for this 13 year old so yo have to make an exception for this case with this 11 year old too" But with Islam thi shit will come anyway nobody would say an 11 year old boy is a man because he ejaculates but girls are women because they have their first period?
Kevin Cruz
I literally posted one of the studies, you retard.
Being the aggressor in sexual contact is also a very different experience than having your body invaded.
Blake Thomas
AHAHAHA this looks like a nigger dance party
Jackson Davis
this is horrifying
Ian Jones
They have sex anyway, secretly or openly, with each other, ANYWAY. Why are men 18+ suddenly excluded?
AND: Why is it socially, determined by media outrage, more taboo when a girl+ adult man have sex than when a boy+adult woman have sex? THIS IS AN INJUSTICE, TOO!
Jayden Peterson
Are you aware that currently 8-year old, boys and girls, have access (directly or through their peers + phones in school) to everything of pornography the net has to offer?
Somehow they are not traumatized at all, even if they are CHILDREN!
Somehow having sex with each other is also OK.
Cameron Sanders
>thinking it doesn't harm them psychologically >complains about "teh youth" and all the stupid things they do >Disregarding the science and using feelings
Kids having sex with one another is also not ok, they get in a lot of trouble (and in good cases counselling) for it.
The children also don't know what they're doing and are nowhere near as forceful, scary, or predatory as are full-grown adults.
Landon Murphy
Weimar-tier degeneracy right here.
Alexander Scott
>They have sex anyway, secretly or openly, with each other, ANYWAY.
people also steal and murder anyway. No reason to allow it. >Why are men 18+ suddenly excluded?
this depends on the country. In Germany if you're 16 you can sleep with whoever you want. I think this is enough. If you fall in love with a 14 year old you have to wait and why would this be a problem if it's true love or just focus on two years older ones.
>Why are men 18+ suddenly excluded?
As I said, somewhere you must draw a border. Otherwise you can always say "Muh but I'm just 6 month too old" no matter where you draw it. Nobody says it's perfectly fair but somewhere you must make a cut
Why was I excluded from the playground when I turned 13? Because it was only for kids up to 12. >more taboo when a girl+ adult man have sex than when a boy+adult woman have sex?
probably because penetration. It's also more taboo to get raped by a man as a man than being raped by a woman because penis and physical strength
Elijah Jones
In every other species it’s common the females seek the strongest males and alpha males have shitloads of babies but on Sup Forums they call it degenerate racemixing because it would mean a lot of blackening
Josiah Harris
>Kids having sex with one another is also not ok, they get in a lot of trouble (and in good cases counselling) for it.
Why would thatbe so? It worked very well for millions of years, and still does on some contemporary societies. Illegalizing sex of men with fertile, young women is a very recent, artificial taboo.
>The children also don't know what they're doing and are nowhere near as forceful, scary, or predatory as are full-grown adults.
Wrong. To start with, girls+boys are often very rough and mean to each other, they beat and bully much more mercilessly than most adults - see for yourself in violence webms here and videos in the net.
"scary", "predatory", "forceful" - how exactly? I am not pro rape or anything like that. Only consent of both parties is OK to me.
And "predatory" - the motivation for sex is EXACTLY THE SAME in teens and in adults: They are horny, and that's it, all of it. If -somehow- 18+ men are "predators", then 12-year old boys are exactly the same "predators" - they want sex because its fun, and that's it.
Levi Bennett
I have the suspicion that making it illegal for men 18+ to have sex with teens is actually not about protecting somehow the teens, but actually about protecting the interests of older, adult females (and the economic power that comes with them) - if men were allowed to have sex with fertile girls, most men would not longer want or need adult women, because the latter are sexually less attractive than young girls to any man; not only would older women be unable to get a provider husband, it also follows that the female-driven economy (women decide over 80% of all expenses) would be hurt, that is, adult men would work less hard to satisfy older women with their work's money, then those would be able to spend less of money they would otherwise get from their men in exchange for sex (in relationships or marriage, in both it's a trade sex for money) and then the income for the upper class would suffer, because adult women would not have the cash to buy so much useless stuff.
Carter Barnes
>people also steal and murder anyway. No reason to allow it.
In both cases both parties do not consent to the action. In fertile girls having willingly sex with men 18+ this would, however, be the case.
And all those artificial, arbitrary social taboos and laws CAN BE CHANGED AT WILL. You cannot justify that something should be illegal because it is illegal.
I ask why it is made illegal in the first place, and I have not yet received any answer that makes sense.
By the way, the girl in the pic is 18+ - but older woman even try to make it a taboo for men to have sex/relationship/marriage of successful older men even with a girl/young women like her!
Andrew Parker
>Why would thatbe so?It worked very well for millions of years, and still does on some contemporary societies.
because we don't live like mllion years ago. You would end up with stuff like that 29 year old grandfather
Oliver Walker
Animals kill their peers too, sodomy occurs too, cannibalize too... does that mean we should do it too? How imbecile you are Kraut.
Jeremiah Brooks
>You would end up with stuff like that 29 year old grandfather
1. Contraceptives exist 2. So what? If the guy has the earning power/wage to handle it, where is the problem? Especially older men have the resources, and especially older men could "afford" younger, girl wives.
Kayden Hill
>Animals kill their peers too, sodomy occurs too, cannibalize too... does that mean we should do it too? How imbecile you are Kraut.
Again: In those cases both parties do not consent to the action.
Owen Mitchell
fuck off disgusting asshole. i will destroy you disgusting perverts, like an animal.
Kayden Reed
no its no way near 40 percent, you fucking foot lover
Bentley Torres
You find that attractive? She has zero thickness that is dope during the pumping job. I bet her body is not firm enough, like gelatin due her age.
What kind of sicko are you? Also the dick, her genitals arent suit for it unless you have a micro penis.
Man you are a closet homosexual. its looks more like a male than a women. >also no boos to bite from or feel
Gavin Thompson
Then we should ban women above 24, having kids.
Angel Young
>consent to the action. You are not only imbecile but plain retarded. Let me guess, you are immigrant of mongrel right? Re read your sentence. You are seriously thinking about consent in animals? There is NOT AN AGREEMENT between them because they lack of reasoning. Never go full retard.
Bentley Clark
>In both cases both parties do not consent to the action.
But we all know that children (even when no adult is involved) can be manipulated and abused too. You just have to observe. There are always kids who are mentally too weak to say know and get manipulated to do things they actually don't want. Sexual abuse can happen among children too.
>1. Contraceptives exist
yeah the earlier we stuff them with hormones the better >2. So what? If the guy has the earning power/wage to handle it, where is the problem?
we both know that these things happen 99% in welfare "families". The grandfather became father with 14 and his daughter too. nobody at this age has his shit together or the mental abilities of raising a family.
>Especially older men have the resources, and especially older men could "afford" younger, girl wives.
but most younger women don't like old men. It's also unnatural because old men die much earlier and it looks retarded and it takes away potential partners from young men. The male age divded by 2 + 7 is a good orientation for how old the woman should be.
Isaiah Rivera
>no its no way near 40 percent, you fucking foot lover It should be in your own interests not to embarrass yourself by showing your stupidity.
"It was concluded that the most common fetishes were for body parts or for objects usually associated with body parts (33% and 30% respectively). Among those people preferring body parts, feet and toes were preferred by the greatest number, with 47% of those sampled preferring them. Among those people preferring objects related to body parts, 32% were in groups related to footwear (shoes, boots, etc.).[2]
Foot fetishism is the most common form of sexual fetish related to the body.[6]
In August 2006, AOL released a database of the search terms submitted by their subscribers. In ranking only those phrases that included the word "fetish", it was found that the most common search was for feet."
Cameron Peterson
Most animals are cool with eating poo, and dying from a single cut as well.
Most animals live outdoors and don't have electronic devices or a developed language either, yet here we are.
It's almost like we're much more complex then any other animal, and capable of creating our own paradigms. You'll never ever get your way, pedo scum. Even if laws changed to favour degenerate pedo sickness, the rest of us will fucking kill you.
Caleb Collins
you cannot give consent as underage person.
Leo Gray
And what happened to civilizations that educated women instead of getting them married when they become women and can breed?
Aaron Lewis
Why not
Grayson Evans
>2000+17 >some people think dragons are real
christcucks are so amusing
Elijah Butler
because you can manipulate kids very easily.
Charles Carter
>There is NOT AN AGREEMENT between them because they lack of reasoning
They DO know what they want or not. They need no REASONING for this at all.
If you want to get killed or not, get raped or not, get eaten or not, get petted or not, get to have sex with or not is decided by FEELING and animals and humans of all kinds are perfectly able to decide based on that.
Nathan Richardson
please kill yourself, you pedo shit
Joseph Jones
>But somehow, as soon as the male turns 16 or 18, he is SUDDENLY FORBIDDEN to have sex with younger girls. >Why? (((feminism))) Imagine if white people had higher birth rates because of this. Oy vey!
Eli Turner
Agreement implies reasoning, you fucking Turk.
Alexander Jackson
kids are easily manipulated, thats why we cannot let them decide. anyone trying to change age of consent needs to be exterminated
Kevin Thomas
Not less than women above 24
Aiden Torres
>Agreement implies reasoning, you fucking Turk. No it does not. Actually, most decisions most people make are NOT based on reasoning, but on checking their feelings. Animals, young and old people can all do this perfectly well.
Nicholas Bell
This just confirm that video where that guy ask people around in a gay club how they became gay.
Gay people are not natural, they're all abusers, victims of abuse, and pedophiles.
Justin Nguyen
>Why? What is the problem niglets
Nathaniel Baker
Teenagers arent kids
Cool argument retard
Gabriel Gray
>anyone trying to change age of consent needs to be exterminated Said by pic related I wonder why...
Mason Campbell
An under constructed female body doesn't ovulate, ovulation is the signal they're ready