Don’t say 0. America has 12 million illegals and only deports 300,000 or so per year. We only deport like 30,000 but got 60,000 voluntary leavers (with money handed to them) last year.
I say 30k euros per head... but as a one time offer, they have to leave within 3 months or the offer expires and we never offer this again. I guess that means we get a million illegals to leave. We should also cut gibmees and be harder on deportations to incentivise people.
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The problem is that these people go home with 30K per head in their pocket. It is a monumental sum of money back where they are from.
So that just encourages others to come, get paid and then get all expenses trip back with more money then they would earn in 10 - 15 years.
Seems self-defeating in a way. We just have to stop this nonsense that we can't deport people to anywhere that isn't Europe. We also need to not provide gibs upfront as this creates a gamble for them.
According to some sources, getting to the EU costs 7 - 10K EUR per person. If you spend that, get here and get nothing, have to be processed and pass to get anything or else you go home empty handed, you'd be less inclined to have a go.
As it stands now, they come, they get food, housing, stipend, etc, even if they fail their application, can work under the table / black market, and its a choice to be sent back. If you go back, you get money!
GERMANY, YES!
This is how I see this situation. It makes my sides to reach the back of my head , though !
France , back around 2010-2011, offered money to gypsies to leave France.
And they did.
BUT........
When they interviewed them if they will return , they said : "Of course. We take the money , we leave for a while and then come back to grab some more. France is good !"
So I see this strategy of Germany very weak already. They will take the money, go back and return back into the country with the money left.
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bullets are much cheaper
France used to offer them up to 5k and it didn't work because they could still milk out more benefits by staying. Cut welfare for all immigrants and they'll take the offer, no matter what it is.
That's just gibs with additional steps. Give them a bullet if they don't leave
No need. Cut the gibs, revoke their visas, fine anyone hiring illegals and they'll leave eventually. Then you get to shoot those trying to come back in.
>Cut welfare for all immigrants and they'll take the offer, no matter what it is.
Rejected asylum seekers get no welfare.
Whatever 50% of the total yearly cost of the deporters divided by the total number of deportees is.
Offer that value to each illegal immigrant as an incentive to gtfo. Congrats, you've just gotten rid of gibsmedat-dependent leeches and you've saved the tax-payers some money.
> go home
> or face the gas chambers
Why would you want to shoah the national debt just to get rid of shit skins?
Here's what we do. Trump and congress fund NASA to develop a mobile human capsule missile launch system and we deploy the military with these to sweep through the country and load up all the non whites in each town into these missiles and we launch them to wherever they want to go outside the USA.
But they get benefit in the form of services, housing, healthcare and such.
Of course this only works if, as others have stated in this thread, you cut welfare and/or make it only available to legal citizens.
This. It's like 50 cents per bullet my dude.
Why you must offer them something? Its the same shit as offering money to bandit who came to rob your house so he can leave house. Yurocucks as is.
It is somewhere between 20 and 30bn costs per year, depending on how you calculate it.
Total average cost estimate per illegal is 400,000 as a 20yr cost (even assuming some of the, work).
So I guess 10k to 200k per person incentive? Isn’t the high end... too much?
A small amount of lead is all it costs to remove them PERMANENTLY.
Not the rejected asylum seekers. They are told to go home, so often they end up just going off the grid and end up officially homeless (and drug dealing or homosexual whores etc.).
>get 5 years' salary to take a month long trip to Germoney
Great job, Germoney. Make crime pay. What could possibly go wrong?
They're still leaching off the society bro. Stop feeling bad for a leach cos it has to suck blood.
Lul cucks, Belgium only offers them €500 with bonus incentives of €1000 some weeks. That's still coming from my tax money though, shiiiiiiiet :(
>Why you must offer them something
Countries do not take them back unless they go voluntarily.
We deport like 200 Afghans and maybe 100 Nigerians, but have 200,000 Afghans still to deport and 50,000 Nigerians to deport. At th current pace it will take hundreds of years to just deport those who are already here.
Just offer 100€ for every captured illegal migrant.
And open der hunting season
>German youth gets a nice summer job
>The agresive Slavs in Germany get money for being agresive
>Germany is cleaned up
Win-win for everybody
The problem are the people here right now. We got 1.6 million people who claimed asylum at some point im the last 15yrs, only 450,000 of the, actually received asylum. We need to get 1 million people to go home. Why not spend 30bn to do that? Better than wasting that money on Greece, Poland or Turkey or American military weapons.
no you need them alll to go even the ones who get assylum
spend the money on bounty hunters and police enforcement. $3000 a head and even I'd fly down there with some kebabs and handcuffs.
It's cheaper to pay military personnel to get them out of the country by military means.
Paying them to leave means fostering the smuggler business, and granting them gratification for breaking the law.
It makes no sense to pay 30 thousand euros for someone to leave, and it isn't fair to the average tax payer as well.
When europe was highly militarized this kind of thing didn't happen.
same thing here in the USA. All our slave time niggers and "mexican american" anchor babies need to get the fuck out of our country for good. Same with all our poo indians and gooks and chinks. EVERY LAST NON WHITE IS OUT OF HERE
Why would anyone pay 3,000 eurollars to doctors and engineers to go away when they're supposed to be a huge benefit to the economy?
Just offer them a free shower. Why am I having to tell you this?
the doctors and engineers need to go too
they can email their diagnosis/schematics overseas if we choose to do business with them
That's because we insist on deporting them to their country of origin that may or may not take them back.
If we want to make any progress, we need to change the laws to be able to deport them anywhere that will take them. Israel just did that, deporting a bunch of nogs to Angola or some place, people moaned but nobody stopped them.
We could bribe some country like Turkey or Lybia to open refugee processing centers and ship every "refugee" there to fuck off. It just takes the balls to make the move.
they can get cash and a plane ticket or they can get a bullet. it is their choice.
Ah, one can dream.
I'd totally quit my job and become a muzziehunter instantly.
As a burger I would pay 50k USD a head with a 20k bonus per nuclear family under the following conditions:
1. The Wall is built.
2. We implement a national biometric ID card system.
3. Immigrants accepting the buyout agree to get tested and put in the system
4. Harsher penalties are established on companies employing illegal immigrants - target the CEOs directly with a fine equal to the yearly salary of the people they illegally employed times the number of years they worked rounded up.
This may sound like a huge number but I think The Alternative Hypothesis calculated the average cost of Latinos as around 7k per year in welfare and public services. This investment will pay back itself in around 7 years, real estate prices will go down, unemployment will go down, etc.
But having their biometrics, pictures and even DNA samples we can make sure to send them bay with nothing if they ever dare to come again. A cheap price to protect Europe and the Caucasians' race future
Take their DNA so they cant abuse it
>they deserve
1bullet
1faulty dinghy
1planeride home
1nuke
pick one
>to send them back
My mistake
You could offer a small reasonable amount at first. Then, as they come to collect, send their ass back home without giving them a cent. Use it as a trap. Keep raising the "incentive" gradually to entice more of them until they're all gone.
A war free country.
It should be cheaper than war pandering.
The ones who got asylum should also be able to take the 30k, fine. But some of them are actual asylum seekers. We took in quite a few Christians from Iran, Iraq, Syria etc. and quite some Yazidis, all of which face prosecution from Muslims down where they come from. Even at 100k they often won’t go back.
Good point. But if we do the Israel thing and deport to Uganda and Rwanda because we pay them to take care lf them etc., the socialists and green party people will go crazy.
Also, Israel will just do that for Africans. Where do we send the Syrians and Iraqis etc. if not to Syria and Iraq? Same with Afghanistan.
You just need to set a cutoff date of residency prior to say, 2018, if we were implementing the law right now.
>Seems self-defeating in a way.
And there you call out what the slaves oF Brussels and Soros are intent on.
I also would, fuck being a engineer if I can be a muzi hunter.
Like going around with your bros with a pick up hunting them down, and next year lefty hunting season
Now no jokes, this is probably the most reasonable way to deport them.When they feel persecuted they will leave
>How much should we offer illegal migrants to go back home?
A bullet?
>Even at 100k
At this point you're either a shill or the absolute reason why the west has been reduced to shit
They don't get to decide nothing, you lose leverage by suggesting such absurdity, and thry refuse to do such things because they know bo one's gonna do shit as a consequence
If you really support this appeasement policy or mindset then you're setting a standard for exploiting the west instead of solving any problems
Just imagine ahmet arriving in syria with 100k euro that must be enough to buy his entire village and other 3 villages around his neighborhood bragging about how easily he got that money to all the people he meets
Half the world would go illegally to german as they are still going right now
>Same with Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is such a fucking meme. There are something like 16 provinces of which TWO have problems. You can send them to Kabul. It's their problem to sort their shit out.
With Syria and Iraq, I get it but most of the """refugeess""" to Europe are not from these places. Most are Africans, central Asians, and pakis.
A couple of years ago, we did it in Denmark. Paid people whom had gained temporary or permanent residence to go back home. As I recall it, it was around 10-30K €.
The project was abandoned, because a lot of the people whom took the offer, returned to Denmark after a couple of years - since their reasons for getting residence in the first place hadn't change, they would just gain residence again.
The kicker of the story is, they returned once they ran out of money, I recall a Somalian guy whom attempted to start his own business in Somalia with the Danish governments money - his business failed, he used it primarily to gain social standing and would employee his friends and family. His vacation ended once he ran out of money, and once again he found himself back in Denmark getting provided for by the state.
>You can send them to Kabul.
Do you? I heard Britain has ban on deportations to Afghanistan.
>paying them to leave
The Syrian war is over so there's no "Asylum" to seek send them the fuck back and tell them they should be grateful for letting them stay there at all
Push them back out from the border they entered from. If it was another EU country, then it is now their problem to do the same, until the migrants are back in Turkey where they belong. Financing them is a mistake, and so is outright killing them. Just force them back down into the EU country they came from prior, as it was their responsibility to do the same from the start.
If you give them nothing they won't come, you shouldn't have to pay these people to go home just put them on planes.
Yes, it's not a technical issue, it's a legal and political one. We could easily solve it if politicians weren't corrupt hacks. Send them wherever, call it processing rather than deportation. Remove the incentives for them to come and stay and close the borders. with the money you'd save, you could easily set up assistance programs to appease the bleeding heart liberals too.
It would be a more humane solution, the (((left))) is responsible for thousands of people drowning every year and all the mayhem they cause by refusing to do anything to stop it.
This is why paying doesn't work. You have to cut the gibs, go after employers paying them under the table, and those that get involved in crime get insta-deported.
In those conditions, they would't bother. It has to be unprofitable for them to make the journey. As it stands now, there is no way they lose. For 10K investment, they get triple that in the first year in the country while they are waiting to get processed.
You guys do not deport to Syria, and you have Trump as president.
The problem in Syria is not the war, it is Assad. We are not supposed to cooperate with him according to you and the UN. So we cannot land planes with German police and deported Syrians in Damascus, can we?
Still not solutiom for the 1.1 million in Germany who do not get asylum. There is no place but Siberia with enough space for them. No country will take them even if we pay money.
It is best to get them home somehow.
We don't because Afghanistan is a total and utter warzone, according to our politicians. However, according to agencies and reports out of the country, it's a shithole, but the """war""" with the Taliban and other Islamists are in remote provinces.
Who gives a fuck? It's their problem, not ours. They can go to Turkey or Lebanon instead. Let them fuck off and ignore the UN like everyone does, it is just another clueless bureaucratic institution that never got anything done.
>The problem in Syria is not the war, it is Assad
Well too fucking bad, I don't want another Saddam or Gadaffi where taking him down makes things worse
If the people don't like Assad then they should deal with him back home, fuck the UN they haven't done shit but act like globalist cucks and have probably started more wars than created
A fine? Sounds good but why not throw some caning in there?
one bullet
Once you, as in America, have made up with Assad and call him a nice guy again, we can deport to Syria. Unfortunately, not before...
Go to Germany, get paid, rape, get paid, go back home, start business, life the life.
It's almost like that thai advertisement but not so uplifting.
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A bullet
Stop giving away my money asshole.
This
Shit man, what are you shooting them with, premium 9mm HPs?
.22lr works fine for pigs if you shoot them in the head at close range, should be fine here too. Gunther, Hans, hold down Achmed, I'll be along with my single six.
Many Africans from Nigeria and the likes, came here not for free gibs - but for work. They work in a shadow economy, work by collecting bottles, prostitution or are employed by some people and then are paid under the table. These people are always refused Asylum, they know this, so they don't even seek asylum or attempt to legitimize their residence.
Even if they are only paid a quarter of a legal employee, they are still paid 10 times as much as they would have been in their own country. that is why they come, you earn more money collecting cans in Germany than being a Doctor in Nigeria.
0.
kill them, they don't deserve money.
I think if we A. pay Greece, Bulgaria and Libya to keep the borders shut and the illegals out and B. pay the illegals to go home, we have achieved a lot for 30 to 40bn.
Just my 2 cents. I mean we can afford this shit, it is like 0.7 percent of our GDP and like 1/10th of the 2009 bank bailout or the Greek bailout.
>How much should we offer?
We should give them the bullet we would have shot them with if they didn't leave.
Paying refugees to leave hardly even costs anything relative to the counterfactual (do nothing, pay to care for them) over a long enough time horizon. It's just an advance on their gibs.
paying reparations for people who invaded your home HAHAAHAHAAHA
>be mexican
>break into US
>pretend i was here for five months
>accept money and go home
>repeat
Any system that pays illegal immigrants in america is going to get fucked over because people are just going to exploit it, Either one a large scale with cartels purposefully running people behind the border or with family members being sent to get the money.
I think America should offer ANTIFA members money to leave the USA. Heck, anybody that doesnt want to be here.
Well, you can only do it one time due to finger printing. Obviously a system of paying people to leave only works if you have good closed borders with an Israeli type barrier.
I don't even want to migrate... So, you're telling me, I can go to Geramany, claim political asylum from evil tyrant Putin and get a quick and easy 3000? Is it once-in-a-time or per visit?
Well Trump needs to stop being a faggot about "Muh Assad gassing children" yeah but the EU should stop being fucking cucks as well and tell them too bad
If we implement and add a cutoff date, and abolish foreign aid and military aid to Mexico, even with a lot of trickery and paper forging it should still break even. Brown people are a huge fucking cost center.
They pay us $15k to deport them to where they are actually from or we deport them to Africa.
How much is a few ounces of lead worth right now?
not enough for them to fund another trip to europe
...
They will just use the money to come back you fucking retard.
They will think in their little monkey brains "I can get it twice if I come back and still live in Germany in the mean time and have them pay me!"
instead use the money to erect razor wire fences, curb the invasion.
A bullet.
So in early Britain whenever Viking raiders would show up the local kings would offer to pay them to leave. Eventually this just lead to move Vikings showing up asking for protection money.
It has to be 0.
We should take all their money and clothes and send them back naked to the most cartel ridden provinces.
>claim political asylum from evil tyrant Putin and get a quick and easy 3000
Probably not, as the green communists will grant your asylum request, so we cannot send you home. In 3yrs you’ll be a bona fide German bratwurst eating Muslim.
What about those already here?
Z E R O AND CUT OFF THEIR FUCKING HEADS
I completely agree with you.
Rope is cheap and reusable
force them out by force.
Their life