Their onto you

youtube.com/watch?v=Sx4BVGPkdzk

thoughts? counterarguments?

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minds.com/Elders_of_the_Black_Sun
hooktube.com/watch?v=Sx4BVGPkdzk
youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
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I can't wait to gas this tranny.

Mental illness

>their

Unwatchable weirdo

>only whites can be fasicsts

He got BTFO by alternative hypothesis.

I couldn't get through more than two minutes of that thing.
Terrible camera presence.
Terrible make-up.
Bland personality.
Condescending.
Bland Buzzfeed style reasoning.
Uninteresting points of view.
Just a normal self-loathing leftist.
I hope it cries itself to sleep wishing it were something less horrible.

what the fuck is that thing

This

checked. That thing just regurgitates the same nonsense spewed by /leftypol/ and "progressives". Just spends a lot of time editing a script to make it sound good

I just realize the cheeky fucker managed to sneak "trap" in his name.

He should do a webcomics about his tranny problems for us to edit.

What is that abomination

sound political lessons from the mentally ill guy

Alt-right is not Fascist in the slightest. Fascists do not want a white ethnostate. Any race can be a Fascist...... Get your facts straight drumpftards.

...

A brainless monkey will quickly resort to violence when he realises that he can't back his position with rational arguments.

> their
discarded

Just some paranoia about fascists, without actually getting to the real arguments of the alt-right. They're just automatically seen as wrong.

Because rational arguments are incredibly effective against irrational people, right?

To the chambers with 'em.

Alt-right and Libtardism are both shill ideologies. Fascism is the true worldview, Get it through your little brain Colgate lemming,.

Socialism is ok when we do it.

He uses Wikipedia and YouTube to get a general idea of what he is talking about, and then uses his fag skills in order to act like a smug cunt in the process.

He is clever, but totally lost and his mind is warped by neolib evil.

I think he's one of us undercover
>Call yourself a tranny to insulate yourself from criticism
>Obviously a man, doesn't even look like he's on hormones
>Every video makes SJW's, feminists, socialists look completely insane and delusional

hooktube.com/watch?v=zPa1wikTd5c

I mean look at this shit, this is something I'd expect one of us to make, it portrays the left and establishment as hysterical and unable to rebute our points or arguments, I can't believe he's genuine no one can be so self unaware

>Open video for 1 second for basic gestalt
>Tranny that doesn't pass
>Nightclub lighting
>Lispy voice
>"Nazis have been driven back into the shadows"

Pretty sure this walking cliche isn't worth 20 minutes of my time.

Confusing Bolshevik/Jewish state capitalism, with NATIONAL SOCIALISM. Not knowing this simple fact - yet posting on pol. Go back to plebbit you the_donald tier lemming.

>Fascism is the true worldview,
You said yourself here that fascists don't even want an ethnostate. Go away you civic nationalist cuck

that explains all the PUNCH A NAZI mems then

>normies "getting" us

lol i don't think so, you wouldn't be a normie anymore if you actually understood what we're all about

You are so ignorant it's funny. Look at this picture and reply to me again once you have educated yourself.

You are a moron.

Normies/lemmings WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND true non-lemmings. You can explain them facts all day but they will be receptive.... Blame genetic herd mentality. See picture.

>open thread
>every post is ad hominem or lol he has no arguments xDDDD
never change Sup Forums, she got you BTFO pretty bad.

This disgusting thing might actually be on our side and simply red-pilling the masses in the guise of one of them because this video just proves an cements "our" reasons. Is it just me noticing this? This filthy tranny doesn't do anything but state "our" points and the facts behind them with subtlety.

>She

Pffft

See Mass movements will never work. Stop wasting your time lemming.

Wasn't this the same faggot that basically said "we can't debate white nationalists, we just have to ignore them or shut them down"?

The left is starting to admit that they have to do mental gymnastics to deny that niggers nig because they're niggers.

I can't take a fucking tranny seriously when it tries to argue

White nationalists are shills.
see

So this is what we're up against?

>any race can be fascist

I never denied that. I want the Japanese to be more fascist and ethnocentric, for example.

I'm just saying huwhites need their own definite ethnostates.

You're no better than a Zionist neocon who thinks niggers are based as long as they wear a MAGA hat.

Is he the Kafka-esque mastermind that weve been hearing about?

Posturing.

Actively limiting your own supply of useful idiots.

No, there not

I guess that's the best they can do at this point. It feels a lot like being a Soviet soldier fighting 12 year old Germans in Berlin at the end of the war.

"The idea that appreciating European Culture is in some way linked to establishing a white ethnostate is just nonsense. Your enjoyment of Beethoven or white babies or whatever it is you get off to is in no way impeded by the proximity of people with different skin colors and traditions."

Does he think culture is just about what art you consume?

That's just the normie face of the movement.
Same as the kekistan pepe fags and alt right losers are the front of the Fascist movement.

> I want the Japanese to be more fascist and ethnocentric

you don't even know what Fascist means, and in your first sentence you are already using it wrong.I am not going to explain why because I want you to figure it out for yourself.

> I'm just saying huwhites need their own definite ethnostates.

Using Jared Taylor (a Jewish shill) memes.

>You're no better than a Zionist neocon who thinks niggers are based as long as they wear a MAGA hat

You're saying that from pure ignorance of Fascism. White nationalists will never grasp our points unless they further educate themselves out of the rut. The same way the alt-light exists. Your belief system is a severed "extremely light" version of Fascism.

These are useful idiots for the Jews, and are actively going against the Fascist movement whether subconsciously or not. Alt right and white nationalists are ENEMIES to Fascists for many reasons, but see the enclosed picture for a hint.

It has fairly good analysis on currents in the alt-right. Definitely more knowledgeable than the average leftist.
However, it is only good at identifying things. There is no attempt to counter any points other than placing some ZOG social label, and appeal to moral knee jerking.
Overall, I think the channel is very redpilled. Sure, its opposition, but our way of thinking begins to grow in the viewer. Also its a disgusting tranny.

I posted this a couple posts above yours I've had this exact feeling the first time I saw him posted on Sup Forums I couldn't believe it wasn't satire, he acts like a complete caricature of a tranny I'd expect to see in some mspaint image posted here, I mean listen to that fucking voice he can't sound more effete than that?
Not to mention he and the golden one have a rather friendly back and forth don't these people block everyone to the right of them? Perhaps he's in on it

>These are useful idiots for the Jews

Only because you guys are literal retards.

Mussolini and Hitler would weep.

You're doing this whole "We go it alone" posturing thing, and in a way I respect that but ultimately you're going nowhere, this doesn't end well for us.

But shit, maybe you're right, maybe this isn't about winning anymore, it's about dying with dignity.

I stopped at the faggot in a dress.

>how to identify a fascist
>three steps that have NOTHING to do with fascism
wew, not wanting to be the Dodo man part three doesn't mean you believe government should completely have control of every facet of life.

She's actually taking a pretty balanced view on us at times. Some of what she says is shit when her ideology gets involved but as far as fascist strategy she's right on.

> whites wanting their own country is "white supremacy", please provide counter argument.

This guy is good at analysing but he starts off with his own bias which is multicultural/globalist so no matter what, he will not accept a single argument for white nationalism even though we see the massive changes in demographics daily and can see how the future will look if this persists. Does he simply ignore that?

Here's my problem, I agree with you that the talking heads of the movement are ultimately detrimental, but how do we prune them? How do we systematically erase their prescence and get everybody marching to one, unified, concentrated tune?

>Only because you guys are literal retards.
Not an argument.

>Mussolini and Hitler would weep.

Based on your shill education you aren't even 1% qualified to speak on how Hitler or Mussolini would act.

> You're doing this whole "We go it alone" posturing thing

Uhh no, you severely misunderstand the whole situation. We welcome all to the Fascist movement, but we only accept real revolutionaries, real thinking humans and not lemmings who are predisposed against us genetically.

Alt right/white nationalist kiddies are still lemming tier, you are no use to us as ignorant husks, not to mention you would be a hindrance in all scenarios.. I am not going to explain this point further.

You cannot debate Fascism because you do not know what Fascism is. If you took the time to learn Fascism you WOULD be a Fascist by default. Or a coward.

>this isn't about winning anymore, it's about dying with dignity.

Ohh look found the nihilist fag who wants an honorable death, you sound like a lemming who wants his post-death cummies.

also the synthwave at the end

>She

AHAHAHAHHAHHAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAAA!

stop forcing your shitty channel here, tranny freak

>shilling Ironmarch propaganda

fed detected

The argument, in substance, is that you people have failed so far in your rhetorical charge that even the useful idiots that would have been the fodder of Hitler or Mussolini and WERE (See: The SA) that you will never achieve substantive revolutionary change. It's a joke to think you can achieve it without their numbers. You NEED useful idiots.

>Based on your shill education you aren't even 1% qualified to speak on how Hitler or Mussolini would act.

And you are? This is feeble.

>Uhh no

Valley Girl trash and you think you're qualified Fascist material?

You're a poser.

>I am not going to explain this point further.

Because you can't because you have no point.

You have failed in the construction of a necessary contingent of useful idiots necessary for revolutionary change.

>Ohh look found the nihilist fag who wants an honorable death, you sound like a lemming who wants his post-death cummies.

I'm suggesting that your path leads this way.

Why do people shill for William Luther Pierce so much? He never accomplished anything meaningful. He talked a bunch of shit but not once did he have anything to show for it. Why should I remotely bother listening to what he has to say?

The Jewish shills will always try to co-opt movements and emasculate them (see how fast the alt right went from white consciousnesses to a Jew homosexual leader in less than a year)... This happened because the alt-right wasn't solid in it's beliefs, plus it wasn't very well thought up in general.... National Socialism/Fascism, CANNOT be co-opted, because their entire essence is anti-Jewish in all aspects. Fascism/NS is the end game belief system for true warriors.

The problem is Fascism/NS is the real "red pill", while alt-right/white nationalism is more easy to digest for the normies. It requires minimalist change in lifestyle, minimalist effort, and it still feels good. Fascism/NS requires HUGE efforts, from reading several dozen books on many different things... It blows the lid off everything you ever loved and cared about.

Because of this huge barrier to entry, you are guaranteed not to find lemmings/idiots in the Fascism/NS system (you will find traitors but that's another story)...

So it is impossible to erase the lemmings or shills trying to co-opt out movement. I am here because I am trying to enlighten the less than 10% of the population who are real thinking human beings, and who has the will to power to go through all the pain and suffering to become a Fascist/national socialist.

Because they don't care if nothing gets done so long as they can feel that they have had the courage of their convictions.

They're anti-pragmatism, and necessarily, anti-success.

You need a pragmatic strategy.

You need to construct an SA, and then you need to get rid of it when it's expired in its usefulness.

Romanticism is a hell of a drug, lmao.

Real thinking human beings like Lindsay Kantha Souvannarath?

But there was never any reason to get rid of the SA to begin with. The problem wasn't that Hitler got rid of the SA, it's that the SA didn't get rid of Hitler and start working to install someone genuinely competent.

Nice argument.

>And you are? This is feeble.

Nice responding to my question with a question. You brought it up, I shut it down. I am not here to argue semantics, shill.

>you think you're qualified Fascist material

I am not as experienced as other Fascists who have studied much more esoteric literature, but I know what I know and I know what I don't not know.

>useful idiots necessary for revolutionary change.

Okay then Einstein. Explain to me how useful idiots will be useful to the cause long-term.

>Attacking his character and not his arguments

How about you stop talking in platitudes and actually give me some substance that I can refute. I too can faux having the moral high ground by spouting off unsubstantial shit.

Lindsay Souvannarath is to be admired for her ACTION, but she was foolish to go after lemmings. She took the easy route which would in the long run doesn't help our movement. She was not a real Fascist. If I had to guess, she had murderous tendencies and simply co-opted our belief system to justify killing people in her own mind.

See picture.

Say what you will, the creature pictured in the video is pretty articulate.

>opens with "What Fascists Believe"
>gets it all wrong
Not even a fascist but this is bullshit to be honest.

that thing is way over complicating the issue. people see us compared to you and you are surprised they would rather side with greasy neckbeards than degenerate tranny freaks!?

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Because you literally cannot persuade anybody if they don't see an existing movement offering security and strength in numbers that they can latch onto.

You need two elements, a catalyst, this being crises conditions like there existed in Weimar Germany, these are coming soon enough, and the appearance of security in numbers.

In failing to create a corps of useful idiots whilst systematically disallowing them from being an important part of your leadership (They have to believe that, as they are part of your chain of command that if they disagree with you they are "Punching rightwards") you have failed in the most significant part of your charge in gaining control.

Yes, the leadership are your wolves, but so long as those wolves aren't pragmatic in their hunting their impact will be minimal and perhaps with cold winters, driven to extinction.

It's obvious, but this video is not being sold to Fascists. It's being sold to ignorant people as disinformation. Considering even most alt-right fags don't even know what Fascism is, this video helps confuse them even more.

> Because you literally cannot persuade anybody if they don't see an existing movement offering security and strength in numbers that they can latch onto.

If anybody you mean lemmings, then yes. If anybody means non-lemmings, then no.. You are literally echoing what I already posted. Watch this video.

youtube.com/watch?v=kFdZHLh_EiY

>and the appearance of security in numbers.

The Nazis overthrew the government with a small band of serious revolutionaries, he didn't even have a mass movement. Opinion discarded.

> perhaps with cold winters, driven to extinction.

Nice opinion there. See picture.

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Good book for noobs.

>If anybody you mean lemmings, then yes. If anybody means non-lemmings, then no.. You are literally echoing what I already posted.

You need Lemmings, you literal retard.

There is a reason why Hitler changed his fucking tune after the Munich Putsch, he learned something you never will: That it is better to be a wolf in Sheep's clothing than a wolf hunted.

>The Nazis overthrew the government with a small band of serious revolutionaries, he didn't even have a mass movement. Opinion discarded.

No, no he fucking didn't. He did time for trying that and then spent years meticulously constructing a movement of useful idiots to gain control of government and then decimated them after their usefulness had expired.

You are mentally feeble and for your failure to adapt will die unfufilled, year on year you will see that your purity of conscience is paid for in paucity of results.

Fight with water gun?

that pic is pure gold

>Hitler changed his fucking tune after the Munich Putsch

Explain, I am not going to research your points for you. You talk in broad strokes. Give substance or be ignored.

You also didn't even watch the video I posted. I am not going to waste my time with people who prefer to fight with me instead of them learning from me. I am the teacher, and you are the student. I know my place, and you do not know yours, but if you choose to ignore what I write and be aimlessly aggressive. Then you can live in ignorance and found out how wrong you are in the end. (if you survive long enough)

It's a rare meme from the place all old-guard 4channers went after this place turned into a cellpit of normies.

youtube.com/watch?v=3GEd3M-E47Q

>learning from me

I have nothing to learn from you, it's all retrograde crap that even the originators of your movement adapted beyond.

And if you're not willing to confront the realities yourself then you were never committed to getting results. If you think for a second that whatever I might say has any merit in terms of its ability to get you results, you'll do the fucking research yourself.

Hitler realized, subsequent to the Putsch, that he would have to be diplomatic. You must be diplomatic also until you have consolidated your beach head, after this consolidation has occured you create the legal and political framework that places you in total power, banning other parties and instituting something similar to the Fuhrerprinzip.

If Hitler achieved his success in this manner, why are you avoiding similar pragmatisms for a clean conscience? A clean conscience is a rationalization for inaction.

His arguments are just arguments. They mean nothing if they result in nothing. And honestly, they're not even particularly good arguments because there's no sourcing or citations or demonstrations. Pierce doesn't really have any sort of special insights that Moldbug doesn't cover but a million times better. And unlike Pierce, Moldbug has some accomplishments, like getting in good with Peter Thiel and using him to strike the most meaningful blow against the chattering class in ages through destroying Gawker.

Pierce might be able to talk a good game, but what accomplishments can his ideology showcase? Where is the proof of concept? Without that, you're essentially asking for faith, which is basically Christfag-tier reasoning.

what is this mythological place you speak of?

Have you seen minds.com/Elders_of_the_Black_Sun ??

There is literally nothing wrong with being a normie.

So what's so wrong about having an ethnostate? Is he anti-semitic? Is he a dictator that want people to live their lives JUST the way he thinks they should live?
And about the white genocide... Aren't there many jews actually asking for the elimination of white people? Many of them in positions of power? Aren't those politicians, in coalition with others, pushing for heavy immigration of high birth-rate etnithities towards countries with low birth-rates?

This is a terrible video full of straw mans and false narratives. All he does is try to delegitimize our rhetoric. This subhuman knows the alt rights ideas are powerful.
Thank you op. Disliked.

>I'm not a fascist is exactly what a fascist would say.

Is this honestly someone who Antifa looks up to?

To be fair it's not hard to look up to anyone when you're a five foot three cuck.

the hooktube link:
hooktube.com/watch?v=Sx4BVGPkdzk

yeah it's gay/tranny/crossdresser kitsch/camp satire in the vein of pickle surprise:
youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
hooktube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
he's probably not /ourguy/ tho.
Camp is usually anti-west, anti-establishment, and critical theory/ cultural marxist based

fpbp

nice grasping at straws. If you had more to say you could have some actual arguments against the video but (you) can't.

Nobody talks about it because the same shit will happen with Sup Forums... Le spergs will all rush over there and do the same shit you did here. You have to find it for yourself as we all did. Consider it a rite of passage to be allowed on the site.

You mean the chon, or Ironmarch?

Again with your platitudes and arguments devoid of substance.
It seems very typical of shills like you to argue this way. It seems your motives are to "win" the argument instead of having a free exchange of ideas in a debate fashion, or simply listening to what we both have to say. You from this point your id and IP will be globally filtered, and shared with the script the old-guard uses to filter out shills. If you want to appeal for a removal from the script you have to find the site and request it. Other then that. Goodbye.

Those are just entry point sites for normies who want to further their ideals. Not going to say more then that.

Yadda yadda yadda.

There is substance in my argument, you've shown yourself to be unwilling to adapt.

You'd rather have a clean conscience than results.

You're a defeatist in denial, you're just abdicating yourself of the responsibility for a pragmatic plan of action and thinking that if you hope and pray and remain pure things will change, this is how children think.

Ah yes, autistic obscure forums, that will totally bring about meaningful social change!