Why was Asuka listening to Rei and Shinji's conversation when she hated them both?

Why was Asuka listening to Rei and Shinji's conversation when she hated them both?

So that she could get dirt on one or both of them and use it to bully them in the future.

She's jealous of Rei and Shinji's relationship. Also she's a tsundere who secretly likes Shinji

Because she's a envious and creepy piece of shit.

Good thing the MP-EVA's ripped her apart.

Didn't the seiyuu say that Asuka isn't attracted to Shinji?

>Why was Asuka listening to Rei and Shinji's conversation when she hated them both?

have you never been around a girl before? they always get jelly of other people's relationships even if they hate everyone involved

and asuka is specifically modeled to be "realistic" aka 3DPD

It was only ironic hatred, she was just pretending to not want to marry Shinji

Well, she has Hikari.

Asuka obviously likes Shinji, it's just that his behavior annoys the hell out of her.

seiyuu opinions and beliefs are meaningless

Episode 16 showed that Asuka does have a kind heart after all.

Worst girl likes gossip and eavesdropping. Are you really surprised?

Asuka is love.

She also watches soaps, that's how terrible she is.

Asuka is as much of a shitty person as Shinji is. In fact, I would say that in EoE she's much better than him.

asuka a shit

basically a character only retards like

Asuka is a shittier person than Shinji, and that's a fact.

Nope, you just like her spread ass, that's not love.

Shinji isn't a shitty person

Not fair, she didn't have to kill her gay boyfriend the night before. EoE Shinji deserves a pass.

>masturbates over his co-pilot
>not a shitty person

don't you want somebody to masturbate thinking of you?

>basically a character only virgin NEETS like

FTFY

>Asuka is a shittier person than Shinji, and that's a fact.
Nope, both are just as shit. Asuka is just like Shinji deep down actually, difference being that she hides it with false confidence and aggressiveness.
>The world and everyone you love depends on you
>who cares? I'm scared! Think about me!
He's a self centered, egotistical bitch, just like Asuka.

Not really, as no one is harmed. Fucked up, but shitty? Not really.

Asuka on the other hand is responsible for the slaughter of entire shelters of civilians in the previous episode, and is indirectly the cause of Rei's death against Armisael.

Nothing of what you mentioned was caused intentionally by her, but nice try on your shitpost.

>Nope, both are just as shit. Asuka is just like Shinji deep down actually, difference being that she hides it with false confidence and aggressiveness.

see The fact that Asuka takes her problems out on others is what makes her a shitty person. Shinji doesn't do that. Rei actually takes the burden of others problems, which makes Rei a saint.

Rei good
Shinji OK/Good
Asuka bad

>Nothing of what you mentioned was caused intentionally by her,

It was. Her reckless and destructive behavior was the direct cause. She is the one at fault here. She intentionally chose to do something that screwed over innocent people, be that refusing to follow orders or help her teammates, or charging recklessly into Zeruel with no plan.

It's not a shitpost, because you 100% cannot refute any of the above, as they are iron-clad facts as presented by NGE.

Quads confirm. Asuka is a piece of shit.

So we know who's shittiest but who's the most interesting character?

Rei Ayanami. She garnered the most interest from the audience at the time of release, and is for better or worse still the #1 character in focus for Evangelion.

>difference being that she hides it with false confidence and aggressiveness.
And that makes her worse, easier to put up with an introverted self hating mess than with a lashing out self hating mess.

>Shinji doesn't do that.
Except he does, he blames his father and others for his own failures and insecurities all the time.

>Rei actually takes the burden of others problems
The discussion is about Asuka and Shinji, Rei is different.

>Her reckless and destructive behavior was the direct cause.
Just like Shinji was responsible for hurting Toji's sister, right? You and me both know that saying that Asuka is a bad person for things that were out of her control is a dishonest argument.

>be that refusing to follow orders or help her teammates
>charging recklessly
Just like Shinji did in the episode where he was confident with his sync ratio.

>because you 100% cannot refute any of the above,
I just did retard.

I also was talking about the characters on a deeper level, whereas you're just trying to shit on a character you dislike.

All of them.

She's hoping they are getting it one so she can masturbate in the hallway.

>easier to put up with an introverted self hating mess
If you have to actually live with said person? Not really. Shinji can be a extremely difficult person to deal with as shown in the series again and again, only reason you think Asuka is worse is because her behavior is more obvious and on your face.

>Except he does, he blames his father and others for his own failures and insecurities all the time.
Blaming ≠ Attacking
>Just like Shinji was responsible for hurting Toji's sister, right?
Shinji did what he was tasked to do, Shinji didn't go berserk there, his mom did, meanwhile Asuka did do it.
>Just like Shinji did in the episode where he was confident with his sync ratio.
Goaded by Asuka, and only endengered himself.
>I just did retard.
No you didn't (btw, I'm a different user so it's not only him who thinks that)

Asuka, just pretending to be retarded since the 90s. No wonder her fags like shitposting so much.

Asuka and Shinji are directly references in End of Evangelion of being the same type of person, but both handle it differently. When you call Asuka terrible, you call Shinji as well.

>Except he does, he blames his father and others for his own failures and insecurities all the time.

No he doesn't. He is upset with his father for having abandoned him, and is 100% correct in saying that he only ever called when he needed him. Shinji never says "i fucked up because of my father". He doesn't blame Gendo because he is unable to defeat and Angel, or because he got bad grades.

Asuka shits on everyone else and blames them the second it goes wrong. Rei takes action when something goes wrong or is difficult, and often saves the day.

>The discussion is about Asuka and Shinji, Rei is different.
Yes, insofar that she is better than Asuka.

>Just like Shinji was responsible for hurting Toji's sister, right?

No, because at that point Shinji was performing at the best of his ability. When Toji's sister got hurt, Shinji was not disobeying orders or otherwise doing things purely for himself. This was true collateral damage he could not be held accountable for.

>Just like Shinji did in the episode where he was confident with his sync ratio.

Reminder that Asuka egged him on to do it, and that it proved no problem for anyone else.

>You and me both know that saying that Asuka is a bad person for things that were out of her control is a dishonest argument.

They were in her control. She did not have to charge Zeruel, the best thing to do would be to retreat seeing she lost her arms. It was her fault.
She did not have to demand to go first against Armisael, and she did not have to scream that "she'd rather die" than go back.
She did not have to attack Shinji and Rei verbally or physically for things that were actually out of their control, or for nothing at all. Refer to the wind blowing up her skirt, or Rei being slapped by Asuka in the elevator. Not any of their fault.

What I've understood is that no one actually likes Asuka. Not even Asuka fans. They just pretend Asuka is someone else.

No, you don't. This is what shitty Asuka fans say because they reject reality and engage in otaku escapism, waifuing Asuka.

It's simply because you can't accept that Rei is so much better than Asuka.

Moreover, if they handle things differently, that means they aren't the same person or type of person. Simple fact.

>If you have to actually live with said person?
Shinji is actually pretty easy to live with, at least going by Misato finding him useful to have him around the house. But sure, introvert messes can be hard to deal with, but aggresive ones are worse.

>implying asuka doesn't secretly care about everyone close to her

I just restarted Eva a few minutes ago.

What am I in for (again)?

Because she wants Rei to lick her butt hole while Shinji is sucking on her clit.

Nope, the root of their problems is the same, but their way of dealing makes her worse. You are not just your thoughts, you're your actions too.

rei best girl
shinji best boy
asuka worst girl
kensuke worst boy

How could you forget? btw Is it your second view or do you do it often?

You are the cancer killing actual discussion.

>kensuke worst boy
weird way to spell kaworu, kensuke was slightly annoying but a good bro.

Good thing filenames kun gets ripped apart by the mods and Rei's asshole gets ripped apart by Armisael.

What the fuck do you expect? Filenames kun has been raging hardcore all day like the little bitch it is. Report and ignore.

I am the chemo that brings forth actual discussion, denying idiots of yourself the safe space of your own delusion.

Kaworu? Does he even count as a character? Forgot he existed for a moment, but if he does:

rei best girl
shinji best boy
asuka worst girl
kaworu worst boy

She's a red headed Shinji who lashes out on people who she feels betray her feelings. Underneath she's a scared little girl who doesn't want to be alone.

I like Asuka because its interesting to psychoanalyze her thought process, her true feelings. To be honest, I'd raise her as an adopted daughter.

completely unimpeachable list

I always thought Asuka was geniunly disgusted towards Shinji as an unmanly twat.

14 year old girls are cock hungry and the reason they are so bitchy about it is because of the contradictory rules of society that discourage them from fullfilling that need. she wants to fuck that older guy but thats not appropriate and shes encouraged to socialize with her own peers but they are afraid of her and this makes her extremely frustrated.

throw in being a german girl in japan's 'u cant tell ur feelings' isolationist culture AND it being the apocalypse and of course shes going to be a psychotic cunt about everything.

She was, but it only further complicated things.

>She's a red headed Shinji who lashes out on people who she feels betray her feelings.

In other words, she is not a red headed shinji, because a shinji would not lash out on people who betrays his feelings. The glaring contradiction in your analysis proves that you are naught but a dumb shipper wanting to connect the two.

>I like Asuka because its interesting to psychoanalyze her thought process, her true feelings. To be honest, I'd raise her as an adopted daughter.

This is obviously a lie, because you have obviously mischaracterized her entire character by reducing it to a subset of another. You are simply pretentious, like every other Asuka fan.

>masterbation rape
>he should be arrested

tumblr pls go.

>btw Is it your second view or do you do it often?
I wouldn't say "often" or even seen it many times, but I did just do it again in the past week and as said, just restarted it again tonight.

Why does this series make me keep coming back? Why is this shitty series so universally appealing? Just let me branch out.

Is it the curse of the Eva?

Then why would she supposedly fall for him? In my experience women are never into that shit.

dude, you don't have to be tumblr to realize that what went down in that room was pretty illegal.

>Is it the curse of the Eva?
The curse of the EVA is a pretentious ploy by Anno. He is able to introduce a timeskip which would have aged the characters to unmarketable appearances and character settei, but with the curse of eva he has kept them young and profitable. Naught more than a pimp, he is.

>Is it the curse of the Eva?
It is.
Although I do think it's the greatest, but I hate it some times.

I find hilarious that you blame Asuka for hurting people even though it wasn't her intention, while you pay no mind to Shinji refusing to pilot the EVA several times in the anime, even though he knew that several lives and even humanity as a whole was at stake. Shinji is extremely self centered and when people ask more of him he simply deflects by saying that no one understands him, but he never tries to understand anyone on a deeper level. He also tried to strangle Asuka just because she refused to help him and then proceeded to strangle her again at end of the film, and what was her answer? She caressed him. Oh and Shinji was the one who caused the third impact, not Asuka, she instead died in a terrible way because Shinji was too occupied crying in a corner.

Asuka is a shitty person? No doubt about that, but so is Shinji. Like I said, deep down they are very similar, only difference is how they approach their problem. You can argue that the annoying aggressiveness of Asuka makes her worse, however you can't exclude Shinji from being a bad person if you call Asuka a terrible person. If you do that you're simply admitting being biased because you can relate to Shinji more.

Also, stop bringing waifu war into this shit, like you're doing here

>You can argue that the annoying aggressiveness of Asuka makes her worse
That's exactly the argument being made. Shinji is no angel, he's definitely selfish and anything you'd like, he admits it himself as early as episode 4, but Asuka is definitely a worse person to deal with.

I'm a nazi from Sup Forums, far from tumblr. What happened in that hospital room is fucking immoral

>I'm a nazi

Your opinions carry no weight.

Now I'm not sure you think it's immoral on principle or just because it happened to your favorite nazi schoolgirl.

Sadly they run the country now. their oppinions carry some weight.

I would agree with you if EoE didn't exist, Shinji is better than Asuka in the series, but he does some very fucked up things in the film, whereas Asuka has some pretty heroic moments and a bittersweet end.

Go back to tumblr

So it trigger you?

Sexual assault is illegal and against the teaching of Jesus. National Socialism preaches respect and honor for women, and they are the mothers of our children. Irrelevant to the topic though.

>I find hilarious that you blame Asuka for hurting people even though it wasn't her intention, while you pay no mind to Shinji refusing to pilot the EVA several times in the anime,

No, you don't. Right now you're butthurt and pretending to find things you can't deal with "hilarious". Like the show demonstrates, Asuka DID intend to screw people over, and outright says she'd rather DIE than do anything else in the example vs Armisael.

Shinji refuses to pilot on occasions where he has been mishandler as a pilot, or shown that he is not needed. The last case with e.g the dummy plug, which would replace him. Despite Shinji's misgivings, he ALWAYS pilots. He is right to have misgivings, an adult would probably not pilot at all unless they were well, stupid.

>Shinji is extremely self centered and
No, that's Asuka. Stop projecting.

>He also tried to strangle Asuka just because she refused to help him
Asuka refused to help, that's on her. Moreover, it never happened - it was in a mind-scene.

>Oh and Shinji was the one who caused the third impact
The impact had begun before Shinji had anything to say, and SEELE were the ones who started it.

>Asuka is a shitty person? No doubt about that, but so is Shinji.

So you're defending Asuka by saying that Shinji is shitty? Doesn't work, mac.

>Like I said, deep down they are very similar, only difference is how they approach their problem.

They aren't similar at all, only on a generic level where everyone is similar: having insecurities. One of the main themes, by the way. Moreover, they are different in how they approach and deal with problems, which make them different. You're wrong.

>Also, stop bringing waifu war into this shit,
No, you did that by defending your waifu. Me pointing out that you are bringing in waifu war shit, is simply calling you out.

Like I said earlier, EoE shinji was in a bad place, his day was shitty at dawn and it went downhill from there.

make me

I don't see how you can open with Im a Nazi" and then talk about morality and expect to be taken seriously.

>I would agree with you if EoE didn't exist, Shinji is better than Asuka in the series, but he does some very fucked up things in the film, whereas Asuka has some pretty heroic moments and a bittersweet end.

Wrong. That could only be said by a delusional Asuka fan. There never was any heroism in EoE for Asuka. Asuka is a puppet from start to end.

A hero or heroine is one who acts, not one who is simply acted upon or goaded along a path. Asuka in EoE is used as a sex toy, then carried and clothed by her handlers. She is then put in an EVA, because she lacks the will to do so by herself. She could not even get her EVA to start, if not for it reaching out to her and helping her do so. Then she fights, and dies like a bitch.
For the remainder of the story, she does nothing except get choked in the end.

In the meantime, the people of heroism and action are Misato, Shinji and Rei who are shown to take control over their destinies and lead the story to an end. Asuka literally does not move a single foot to take even ONE STEP for the entire duration of the movie.

In the meantime Misato fights her way through an elite assault force, sacrificing herself. Rei becomes God and defeats the series villain, while Shinji attains semi-godhood while defining mankinds future.

This is the real Evangelion which asuka shippers deny because for them, it's all about the doujins.

I hope with that anger you are also criticizing British, Russian and American morality. Considering the Soviets killed and raped German women, Dwight D Eisenhower made innocent German people starve to death in interment camps and Churchill fire bombed innocent German civilians in Dresden.

Don't lecture me on morality unless you know the full picture of World War 2, also the holocaust never happened.

I was agreeing with you but I think glossing over Asuka's fight with the MPEs is a little unfair, it might not have changed anything in the end but she fought valiantly there.

Had a could point going then you just fell flat on your ass with that last bit.

>Don't lecture me on morality unless you know the full picture of World War 2
>also the holocaust never happened.

If you give a coward a weapon of mass destruction and he uses it, it doesn't make him any less of a coward.

In the same way, giving a failure like Asuka an EVA with a berserk/power boost doesn't change the fact that she's a shitty person.

Truth doesn't need laws to protect it.

She was. Asuka hated him because he didn't respond to her desires. She hated him because he surpassed him as a pilot and was praised. She hated him because he doesn't appreciate his talents. She hated him because he's pathetic, like herself.
Fans are delusional and think she's being tsuntsun~ She practically dances on his possible grave and spouts egotistical bullshit. She is mental.

There is sexual attraction but that's it. They're screwed up and desperate to rub against someone for warmth, but are utterly repulsed by the other. Take the ending of EoE as the two figurative-turned-literal "last persons on Earth" to get another chance. None of this shipper shit. Just two people who need to do this.

>give a coward a weapon of mass destruction and he uses it, it doesn't make him any less of a coward.

Are you stupid? It absolutely does make him less of coward. He used it. That makes him less of a coward then he was before.

I've watched documentaries on the supposed "gas chambers" I suggest you watch them, take the red pill and learn the truth. come visit uncle Sup Forums

>She practically dances on his possible grave
that's the moment she lost me for ever, it's one thing to be tsun, quite another what she did, no wonder it even ticked off unflappable Rei.

So giving a coward a gun, and letting him shoot up a school makes him... not a coward?

I thought we were talking in the context of him defending something? Did you just change it to suit your narrative or was I off?

Asuka is a fucking joke and so is Evangelion in 2017, and has been for a long time.

Asuka is simply a bandwagon waifu people like because it's the directors favorite, having Asuka as a favorite is the epitome of having no personality at all.

I took at is she was coping, she even looked somber when they discuss destroying hte angel.

You were off. If you give a shitty person power, simply having that power or using said power doesn't make the person not shitty.

So when Asuka is piloting the EVA, it's not because of her. It's because of the actual heroine: Misato.

> no personality at all

Like Rei?

No, like Asuka or fans of Asuka. Essentially people who don't have their own opinions and reject everything in order to simply follow what they've been told.

Rei had her own, actual opinions and worldview, which was what saved her in the end.
Asuka didn't, and just regurgitated what her puppet masters told her: "angels bad, u pilot, u kill, u nothing else".

This is why they can "kill" Asuka by simply taking away her identity as an EVA pilot, while Rei doesn't die even if she is killed.

Of course it was coping, she didn't want to deal with his death on her conscience and it was her way of deflecting blame but it doesn't make it forgivable, just understandable.

Asuka literally only cares about herself. I wish Rei sacked her there.

>asuka
>no personality

wew

German culture is actually eerily similar to Japanese culture

*he surpassed her
Also moaned about how she believed he, Rei, and maybe others like Misato (particularly the Kaji thing) were getting love and special attention that she craved. She is green with envy and it takes some ugly forms.

Not that it isn't understandable but it is what it is.