The internet is a global nation of it's own, these politicians will never have a say in it's governance...

The internet is a global nation of it's own, these politicians will never have a say in it's governance, and any attempt will be nothing less than an act of war against an enemy with a global presence

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Are you for NN? Without using words like might, or could explain why?

So how did google steal the daily stormer with NN in place? Is it actually completely useless for securing a free and open internet?

no matter what happens all websites that share 'hateful' information will be shut down within 5 years.

isps or democrat house, it will make no difference who does it. this is all a show.

Actually the internet can be cucked out of existence as we have see with Cuba. The Media Jew in this country are our Castro.

It's true. Attempting to police it will only create a market for proxies. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's too late for that.

Yeah you tell im

>So how did google steal the daily stormer with NN in place?

>host your web site on googles servers
>google deleates your site from off its servers

learn to internet

youtu.be/iFkzJc7kJKc

>ISP blocks website you like
>"Hey, bring that back or I'll move to someone who doesn't block it"
>they bring it back
>if they don't you can tether via your phone plan (which you have way, way more options with)

and if they all decide to ban your favorite website lol?

and dont say 'start your own company', you dont have the intellectual capacity to compete with jews in the business world.

Oh and you can use a VPN disguised as a secure connection. No ISP will block those because companies use them and over half the internet uses secured connections.

>decide to ban your favorite website
That's not how the internet works.

>That's not how the internet works.
yeah, thanks to net neutrality, brainlet

youtu.be/iFkzJc7kJKc

You already advertised this, you homo.

So NN does not protect the internet. Thanks.

They banned the daily stormer while NN is in place.

NN is therefore utterly worthless

>ban

They hosted on (((Google))) servers, who then reserved the right to remove it. They returned on other servers who decided not to do that. That's not a NN issue, as it couldn't and won't defend against that.

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this is why we make fun of goyim. because you braindead crackers cannot think about more than one subject at a time.

the stormer was not banned, the jew who ran it refused to buy his own servers. if you pay me to hold porn on my computer until you can buy a new harddrive, and i find out its bestiality porn, i can delete that shit and LAUGH about it all the way to the bank.

>it's okay for corporations to prevent access to websites

ISP's are corporations.

wow, i know you think youre being clever, but please dont try to use jew tricks.

there is a difference between owning the car and owning the road. you can kick me out of your car, you cant kick me off of the road.

to torture your shitty analogy, this is like all of the normal car dealerships refusing to sell the daily stormer a car and they have to go buy a piece of shit lada because it's the only one they can get

to torture your shitty brain, check my first postNN falls, internet dies next year, if not, it dies jan 21, 2020.

good, maybe you normie retards will fuck off back to *ddit again

lol is this a bot having a spaz attack or just a flouride damaged goyboi?

literally cant tell with gentiles anymore.

The vote for/against Net Neutrality by the FCC is simply them deciding whether or not they want to be the gatekeepers for what American corporate influence has on the internet, and if they vote no it goes to the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission.
Under FCC purview, there is a lot that ISPs and general corporate interests cannot get away with - a particularly nasty case would be something like back in 2009 (Six years before any Net Neutrality laws were signed for the United States) where AT&T blocked Sup Forums for, in their own words, "protecting our customers for malicious traffic." Those very loose, manipulative words can be applied to any website under any ISP in order to eliminate whatever these providers deem to be malicious (or in more apt terms, seditious, due to corporate-political collusion), be it Sup Forums, Google, or even YouTube. This is the key reason why trusting the FTC is a very irresponsible decision.

One could say that's for the best, and at that point it's a matter of leading a horse to water. On the other hand, those who recognize the problem in such a concept but are still against Net Neutrality could still suggest changing providers, missing the massive problem of ISPs having pseudo-monopolies running several portions of the continent, and to have any semblance of a decent connection, you would need to use their lines and that just leads back to the original problem. And those who even have such an option are in a minority. Most of the country cannot "take their business elsewhere." Phone-tethering is also a massive delusion, and a severe disregarding of the fact most mobile service providers are owned by or are in collusion with these same monopolistic ISPs.

tl;dr Net neutrality, like it or not, gives the kikes running the show one extra hoop to jump through before they can reach you and fuck you in the ass, and if you aren't spiting them every step of the way, you might as well be lubing yourself up.

How does this statement show up in every thread? Is it the same few retards that don't understand the difference between domain host and internet access?

>>Why can't I use VPNs?
>Regular costumers don't need to use VPN, that's a service used in enterprise so if it's necessary, your employer will be able to cover the extra cost on your internet bill.
>>Why can't I tether from my phone to my PC?
>The plan you use is bound to your phone only, so if you want to use it outside of that, you'll have to pay extra.
>>I'm going to leave you for someone else if you don't stop this.
>Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Can you say hi to the 5 Mbit/s satellite ISP with 1500ms round trip time for me as that's the only other option you have?
Now what?

I'm sorry m8 but the election was in 2016. One candidate was in favor of NN, the other was against it. The one in favor lost. You can't just say "oh fuck we lost but that's ok maybe if we bitch about it on reddit we can still get our way"

Fuck off.

>want to start up news site that exposes U.S. involvement in South East Asia
>hire several people

Situation 1:
>site gets less traffic because ISP's throttle speed
soasta.com/blog/google-mobile-web-performance-study/
blog.kissmetrics.com/loading-time/
narrativeindustries.com/2013/07/a-large-percentage-abandon-proper-analysis-when-presented-with-statistics/
>people don't go to your site because it takes longer to load than the average person will tolerate loading
>ad revenue goes down
>forced to shut down site

Situation 2:
>ISP's charge customers to access your new site in a bundle
>most op-out
>forced to shut down due to lack of income

Situation 3:
>your site is made on one of those build your own websites like wix.com
>ISP's send emails to the site saying X number of sites are concerning, including yours
>hosting site shuts down your site to avoid extra charges from ISP's to protect their larger income

>but ISP's would never do that!
All ISP's care about, and what all companies care about, is making money. If someone rich lobbies for them to "incentive" them to look at some information they don't agree with a little more closely, if you catch my drift, they will to maximize profit

>but if they do that, they'll be sued!
If the cost of going to court and settling is lower than the rick of being successfully sued, OR if the income of your company is greater than the potential loss of being sued, they WILL fucking do this. And they wouldn't be doing this shit if they thought they couldn't get away with it. They have monopolies in most of the country. They customers have no where else to go besides them. Their income will only go up, despite the loss of customer base and the risk of being sued in court.

investopedia.com/terms/c/cost-benefitanalysis.asp

>The internet is a global nation of it's own
i guess that's obama literally gave it away?

Is this a serious post? This shit is impossible to tell anymore. This post is so stupid it doesn't really matter.

YOU LOST

GET THE FUCK OUT

in doing so, it makes it illegal to not just block, but to throttle any traffic. what traffic is most at risk of being throttled? why, ultra high bandwidth video streaming now must pass a legal test before being throttled in order to prevent loss of access to any other content sharing that pipe (when a pipe becomes congested, less bandwidth intensive applications are more adversely impacted than high bandwidth applications, because they are not designed to degrade as gracefully as video streaming). So it makes it essentially illegal for an ISP to allow any of their pipes to fill up. Previously, ISPs entered agreements with internet transit companies where they agreed to share costs on peering depending on what the traffic ratios (rx/tx) looked like. With the advent of streaming, traffic ratios to peers that carry video streaming traffic are almost completely downstream, wheras traffic peers that carry web traffic are closer to even (not 50/50, but not 99.99999/0.0000001 like streaming). Where previously the company who was getting paid by the video streaming company for transiting this traffic to the ISP would be required to pay for the majority of the shared cost (where if they had a more even traffic split, they would share the cost more evenly), now, an ISP can count on being taken to court if they don't jump to pay for the upgrade, even if the other company is benefiting by taking on streaming video traffic and sending massively imbalanced traffic ratios.

It's massive overreach regulating parties that are free to negotiate commercially reasonable terms, putting one side under constant threat of legal action for running their network in what is actually a totally reasonable way.

because it's a clear demonstration that the same companies that are shilling for NN under the guise of it protecting free speech are completely full of shit.

>tl;dr alternative news can't afford a world without net neutrality.
This is the same reason Netflix is NOT opposed to the end of net neutrality. This ends competition to the mega corporations.


>If the cost of going to court and settling is lower than the ri[s]k of being successfully sued, OR if the income of your company is greater than the potential loss of being sued

Could anyone here imagine a lawsuit of a bunch of fucking peasants successfully suing the rulers of the internet for anything that would even minorly damage them?

This is so stupid. This isn't even the same you are attacking. The entire reason Sup Forums supports the end of net neutrality (not the end of title 2 but the full end of net neutrality) is because some stupid neo-nazi site got shut down because Google recognized hosting them was bad publicity. Google isn't the only fucking site/company supporting a free and open interenet, prettty much any company that isn't a mega corporation is. Can you not understand the difference between hosting speech and completely disallowing speech?

>Could anyone here imagine a lawsuit of a bunch of fucking peasants successfully suing the rulers of the internet for anything that would even minorly damage them?

Exactly. If the cost of going to court is less than an action you are taking, going to court and paying for lawyers and expensive is worth that action.

In other words, if they can afford to fuck people over and get away with it, they will.

>This isn't even the same you are attacking.
bah my anger makes me illiterate.
This isn't even the same INDUSTRY you are attacking.

Can someone give me quick rundown on what the hell removing net neutrality will do again? The only part I remember is that ISPs get to divvy up the internet into dlc-like packages to sell for more shekels.

Nobody cares. The election was in 2016. You lost. Fuck off.

no, this is a misinformation site and fuck off

What does this even mean?

>

It means you need to get the fuck out.

google should have recognized that shutting down a site with disagreeable reprehensible subject matter would make people question their motives for supporting NN.. honestly if you don't think they are full of shit, you're a sucker

The vocabulary of the average Sup Forumstard consists of cuck, shill, troll, what did he mean by this?, X YES/NO, MAGA, and retard.

Ironically, by calling ever dissenting opinion a shill, the Sup Forumstard becomes a shill himself.

YOU LOST THE ELECTION

FUCK OFF

TRY AGAIN IN 2020

Yeah, because one person or 200 people are really going to change their minds - fucking simpleton.

youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE

I'm sure Google really cared about the feelings of neo-nazis when they shut down daily stormer.
Anyone with minor familiarity of net neutrality knows that the issue begins with Google. Finally, with the introduction of Google fiber, a company is large enough to threaten the Publicly Paid For infrastructure that ATT / Verizon claims they own. Google simply wanted to staple their fiber wire on public telephone poles and the major corps through a fit. They hate competition. Rather net Neutrality ends or not, Google isn't going anywhere, just the competition and freedom of the interent.

How long was daily stormer shut down? As far as my memory recalls, they found a new domain host the next fucking day. Finding a domain host is nothing like finding access to the internet.

You are speaking a nonsensical shill narrative. I can never tell with this site if you are willfully ignorant or literally shilling.

Shut the fuck up you poser. You keep prattling about how Donald Trump was somehow against NN even though one of his biggest election talking points was putting the kibosh on the TPP due to viewing it as being worse than NAFTA and made it one of his first executive orders.

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Sup Forums - The Internet Is A Series Of Tubes

>gizmodo.com/the-2016-presidential-candidates-views-on-net-neutralit-1760829072


>Donald Trump does not support net neutrality. Actually, he thinks it will lead to the censorship of conservative media. “Obama’s attack on the internet is another top down power grab. Net neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine. Will target conservative media,” he tweeted in 2014.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT

"Elections have consequences."

You lost.

No it isn't.

>no borders
>no citizenship
>no standing army

In what way is the internet a nation?

Didn't stop you from trying.

>posts meme flag
You haven't answered my question in any way.
Kekistan is not real.

most places have on ISP you fucking retard, and most those places are more likely to be conservative.

>DONT TOUCH MY INTERNET IN ANY WAY
>JUST SUBSIDIZE IT AND KEEP IT UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!!

OP, you're fucking retarded.

you mean google fiber, the subsidiary they tried to start and realized that running a consumer isp is actually difficult and expensive and the margins are shit and they can make more money selling fake clicks to rube advertisers? (as long as they censor everything on youtube that might be bad for brands like, oh, free speech) They cancelled a bunch of their planned Fiber expansions because they just weren't making money on it, even with their total surveillance. NN is a ploy to strongarm the incumbents because they couldn't hack it in the space and want to get their way anyways.

Get rekt you fucking moron, if you actually understood what I was saying you would agree with me.

And yet again, I remind you that he was severely against TPP, which was planned to be a soft-repeal of Net Neutrality.
unv.is/brookings.edu/blog/unpacked/2017/03/24/trump-withdrawing-from-the-trans-pacific-partnership
archive.is/02s8X
archive.is/cvKgA
archive.is/Io2J6
Also
>Linking clickbait sites like fucking Gizmodo unarchived
You must be a falseflagging shill, it'd explain why you're trying so hard to come across as one of us. Piss off, Leaf.

Are you having a bad day, Leaf-kun? You seem a litlte stressed. Why don't you take a moment and gather your thoughts.

Fucking kike.

I can link you to thousands of instances of Trump being against Net Neutrality during his campaign and you're trying to change the subject by blabbering on about fucking TPP

GET

THE

FUCK

OUT

confirmed for ironic devil's advocate shitposting

>you're trying to change the subject by blabbering on about fucking TPP
So you haven't read about TPP which literally set up the framework for repealing Net Neutrality alongside its trade provisions, or you're just a Shareblue shill trying to make the actual Trump supporters here look bad.

>Kekistan is not real.
Any other thread, you would be called a shill.

Anyway, the Internet has connected people in a way that is altered in a negative way would impact them severally.

Just like how
City states fell in favor of empires, and how
Empires fell in favor of nations

The internet is a tool that is redefining how people interact with each other the same way the above examples did.

Fuck, crypto-currency can be seen as the currency of the Internet, as without it, CC can't exist.

With 3 billion+ and rising internet users communicating, conducing trade and commerce, with it's own unique way of language (leet speak, slang), with it's own currency, and with it's own standing army in the form of DDoS, LOIC, hacktivists (weapons include viruses, Trojan horses, malware, bloatware ect), the Internet may not be a fully formed nation, but it blurs the lines.

>these politicians will never have a say in it's governance
That's legitimately what net neutrality is you mong
Do you even know what it is you are shilling?

>as long as they censor everything on youtube that might be bad for brands like, oh, free speech)
love how you include this little snip bit of a private company handling the data users submit the way they feel they should with the data submitted voluntarily while defending the right of a different mega corporation to restrict the transfer/access of any data at all.

Google fiber couldn't make money in expanding broadband to rural areas, who the hell will? You don't like Google for not hosting your neo-nazi website? Fine, use a different domain host and search engine. You don't like the ISP deciding the content that you have access to? Well, you're shit out of luck.

Listen you dirty, lying, fucking subhuman kike. Every single republican including Trump was against Net Neutrality from the beginning. I'm tired of linking to articles from 2015 and 2016 just so that you can change the subject and talk shit about some Trans Pacific bullshit that nobody cares about.

You lost. It's time to get the fuck out and if possible kill yourself and your entire family.

Things are getting orwellian

You're right, politicians do have a say in it's governance

>WE SAY... neutral access to all

Not so much a nation as it is a new playing field upon which we're noticing tribes and nations beginning to form of their own volition beyond the traditional scope of Geographic and Genetic nations. Already we're seeing lines form that extend beyond through and above existing geopolitical lines.

Also, uhh Get the fuck out. not that I want you to leave or anything, I just figure thats how we're ending posts in this thread.

Get the fuck out and what have you.

>some Trans Pacific bullshit that nobody cares about.
And confirmed Shareblue shill. You're welcome for the $5 all my (You)s probably gave you. Save up, maybe you can afford to fly in a refugee into your shitty non-country to fuck your wife while you continue to falseflag.

You were blown the fuck out of something you have no idea about only that (((someone))) wants you to be upset about it and to tell other people they should be upset for reasons given to you by those same (((people))) that they prepackaged into literal propaganda to viral around and share on social media without ever knowing really why but that whatever you are doing is some way you could do (((good))).

You kikes are unbelievable. You get absolutely blown the fuck out but you won't give up. When you lose you just change the subject and start talking about some trans pacific nigger agreement shit and refugees and some bullshit about falseflagging my wife.

YOU LOST

FUCK

OFF

NIGGER

>shilling for nn
>defending exploitation of personal data as a business model
>pretending to know anything about rural america

you should seriously reexamine your life choices

God fucking damn you are stupid.

>"Hey, bring that back or I'll move to someone who doesn't block it"

Many ISP's are monopolies.

>if they don't you can tether via your phone plan (which you have way, way more options with)

you really think a tethered phone plan will be affordable to average people in a post NN world?

SOPA, PIPA, and the original idea of NN versus what was actually put into place, so Nu-NN are all completely different things.

That's not how the internet works.

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a stupid motherfucking clown. The internet does not work like that thanks to NN.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU ARE AN IDIOT

You have no reading comprehension.
Who gives a fuck about rural/urban america? We are talking about net neutrality.

Obama didn't give the internet away you delusional bitch

you are expecting the faggots that visit daily stormer to be reasonable, intelligent, thinking individuals?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>ISPs want to remove net neutrality
Sup Forums: Surely this is only with our best interests in mind.
>ISPs also lobby to make it harder for new ISPs to form, effectively removing competition.
>ISPs sue other ISPs for moving into their territory to prevent them from taking their market.

>Nobody on Sup Forums seems to mention this.
Golly gee I sure do wonder how that could be the case.

Shut up bitch.

I'm simply hoping to make one child who sees their idiotic post realize how idiotic their post is.

The intelligence of pro-repeal Sup Forumstards extends to this: youtube.com/watch?v=R8XSo0etBC4

The most fucked up thing about this in relation to Sup Forums is the willful ignorance and forgetfulness of the history of the internet. Ted Stevens liked the Internet as a series of tubes. Everyone sane laughed. A decade later, this same logic is being praised and taken seriously.

Sup Forums is all about preserving not an identity, or a race, or an ideology. It's about perverting everything good and true for its own sick pleasure. It's Sup Forums with a gun, a lighter, an agenda of it's own making and a motive to hurt people. It's Sup Forums gone too far. This containment board has mutated into hideous abomination

indians have never done shit in american politics, and they really want their first important act to be ending net neutrality
fucking poo loos never deserved freedom

Whats the point of net neutrality if the internet companies aren't neutral, but bans based on political affiliations?

Look nigger.

There was an election in 2016.

You lost.

Now you need to get the fuck out.

>Whats the point of net neutrality if the internet companies aren't neutral, but bans based on political affiliations?
You have actual options, you don't have to host your shit on google.
A lot of people in the states HAVE to use comcast or HAVE to use AT&T because those companies have effective monopolies.

Net neutrality forces all ISPs to treat data equally. This prevents them from banning content that does not support their political affiliation.

(I can't remember the source but I can remember the numbers) 82% of USA has the option of 2 or less companies for broadband service. 56% has 1 or none options.

Is it different in Sweden? How do you choose an internet service provider?

I can speak for my friend in Denmark, she's fucking glad they don't have this shit to deal with.

Sup Forums is just too excited to have to pay extra to shitposttrüpen on a Burmese foot looming pigeon service

I'll be fucked before I give 2 cents to pigeon page.

China did it. And I'm not sure whether or not to use VPN for games such as PoE when I go back for vacation since they announced cracking down. Honestly I don't US to turn over Net Neutrality, it's a slippery slope down and I like my porn and games. ;/

brainlet here, what does title II do? i know we're talking about net neutrality here, but i'm very curious as to why title II isn't being discussed right now and i want to know more about what it is

What if the world is a better place without the internet?