How is refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding and different than refusing to serve Black customers at a restaurant? In both cases religion is used to mask the roots of intolerance.
When Phillips refused to take their order, the couple could have walked out of the Masterpiece Cakeshop and gone to another bakery that would have been more than happy to create a lovely cake for their wedding reception. They should not have been forced to do so, but they had the option.
African-Americans never had such options in the 1960s. Racial discrimination was systemic and pervasive across the South.
When a black teenager was denied the right to sit at the counter and order a milkshake at a drugstore, he couldn’t just go to another drugstore down the street. None of the drugstores would serve him.
On family road trips, parents had to equip the car with a bucket because businesses along the way would not allow blacks to use the toilet.
It was nearly impossible to find a white-owned restaurant anywhere in the South that allowed African-Americans to walk in through the front door, sit down at a table and have a meal.
How can you refuse to serve gay customers but not Black customers?
I dare any of you who own a business to post signage saying you won't serve Blacks and see how long that lasts.
Most of the businesses that have refused to serve gays have profited in private donations. Why should they profit at the misfortune of others? Poor Melissa of Sweet Cakes refused to serve a lesbian couple then her husband doxxed the couple with their name, address, and phone online. That's why they were fined. If you think Christians are incapable of being aggressive bullies against gays, you are the bully.
>telling business owners what they can and cannot do with their business
Holy fuck please stop, I used to be a rabidly anti-corporatist anti-corporatist dude weed lmao kid but you fuckers just CANT STOP SHITTING UP EVERYTHING and I am considering legally changing my name to Augusto Pinochet II™ at this point
Evan Parker
Ok I dare anyone here to add a "No Blacks!" sign to their business.
Jeremiah Wilson
You gave that up when you started sucking cock
Andrew Harris
We are not a fucking race moron we are a fetish at best stop drinking the LGBT koolaid and realize it if i own a cake business and a foot fetish person wants a cake for their foot fetish convention can deny them because I find foot fetishes disgusting
Caleb Nelson
So forcing someone to do something you want them to do, in spite of their beliefs, is okay? Why not just frequent a different baker that will make your cake? You fucking gift givers are terrible people.
Owen Long
You don't get to decide that anymore.
Logan Harris
Yes.
Robert Turner
they really nailed sophies cakes
Brandon Sullivan
>we have banned you from entering premises based of something you said that doesnt fit with our rules This is OK >I won't work with you because you are not asking me for something I would want to do, and I do not wish to be involved with But this isn't???
Ayden Torres
Oh, it's crazy gay guy again. I'm just going to assume it's you every time a fag posts here. Have a good one crazy gay guy.
Thomas Collins
Ask a muslim to bake a Mohammed cartoon cake with bacon in it.
Gabriel Lee
The baker DID serve gay customers. Happily, in fact. He even offered the gay couple a pre-made cake for their gay wedding.
However, forcing him to make a custom cake specifically for their gay wedding, in violation of his sincerely held religious views, under threat of legal force, is COMPELLING HIM TO SPEECH, which is a violation of the first amendment.
Caleb Miller
Please not all us cock suckers are like this cult member
Robert White
Deliberately offensive requests or designs that attempt to harass or subdue the business are not required to be made.
>How is refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding and different than refusing to serve Black customers at a restaurant
Because a white and black person both want a hamburger, while the faggot wants a cake with a fondue cock on the top dribbling out cream.
You're retarded to compare the two.
Ryder White
what the fuck is up with that pic
Jason Collins
All niggers,Jews and queers should hang.
Andrew Flores
Nobody cares. Get it through your head, we will never give a shit about what niggers can or can't do in countries that were not intended for them.
Brandon Anderson
>You don't have the right to refuse service >You lack the personal freedom to choose >LOL BTFO BIGOTS!!!
Real privilege is when you can force another human being, in his own domain, to do your bidding and still be perceived as a victim. You don't even realize how much the government backs your gaping asshole. Good luck being 40 and dying alone, cuck.
>SAGE SAGE >SAGE SAGE >SAGE
Anthony Watson
>Baking a gay cake against traditional Christian values and them refusing to do so resulting in taking it to court is not harassment okay mate
Leo Johnson
your race doesn't make you a degenerate...being a fag does
Jonathan Watson
This is just More evidence that the LGBT movement is a cult that spreads is ideals that gays are a race and should be treated as so instead of being what it truly is, a sexual prefrence. No retard you dont get special treatment because we suck off guys
Parker Richardson
>How can you refuse to serve gay customers but not Black customers? The right to free association also implies freedom from compelled association, just as the freedom of speech implies freedom from compelled speech. The civil rights act which forces business owners to associate with blacks is unconstitutional, and always has been.
Michael Collins
Please make my NAMBLA cake, don’t be a bigot!
Nicholas Nguyen
Rule 15. All pony/brony threads, images, Flashes, and avatars belong on /mlp/.
Gabriel Gonzalez
I'm pretty sure the law states you can refuse to serve anyone for any or no reason at all. You do not have the right to be served, it is a privilege that can be revoked.
Jacob Hernandez
Yeah, that is some weird shit
Connor Evans
>How is refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding and different than refusing to serve Black customers at a restaurant? It’s not. Both should be legal. Theres no reason why a private entity should agree to the moral and social views of individuals in government.
Nathan Anderson
Didnt realize that was a pony just thought it was a fag my bad
Dylan Wright
It isn't and you should be allowed to refuse service to anyone for any reason, unless you work involves an oath like for doctors, etc.
Leo Brown
u dont seem 2 understand that u r free 2 do whatever u want in private property, so long as it is within the confines of the constitution's principle(: 'u r free 2 do as u please, so long as it doesn't infringe upon another's right 2 do the same' )
>demands services from a private business & threatens 2 sue if they refuse who's the bully again?
Samuel Butler
I run a paint store. Will do this next time we're low on stock.
Michael Johnson
Oh fuck off, this isn't 2012 anymore
Levi Ross
Who gives a fuck who is intolerant and who isn't? You don't like a businesses rules, you can fuck off to a business who you do agree with. It's the best part of free societies. I wish more people would segregate.
Eli Edwards
how is hanging a nigger different than selling the rope to the nigger hanger? (note most nigger hangers are niggers themselves)
Alexander Thomas
Yeah, and now? Just go to a bakery which does serve gays and negroes.
Tyler Lopez
> fire people for not having the liberal beliefs of your company - A OK > not doing business because of the conservative beliefs of your company - REEEE RACISM SEXISM XENOPHOBIA BIGOTS REEEE
Levi Rogers
They didn't go to a Christian bakery on purpose. If you want to hate gays and be Christian, run a church. He's not a pastor, he's a baker.
If the gay cake case is resolved in favor of the baker, can I then deny service to black people, as long as I say my motivation is a) religious and b) specifically against gay people? ]
Austin Perez
A resteraunt is not obligated to participate in a religious ceremony. In the Christian faith, marriage is one of the Holy Sacraments. To participate in a gay wedding in way is considered heresy and a desercration of the divine under most orthodox interpretations.
This can be got around if the baker just sells a stock cake that was made and put on the shelf. Once sold the use of it is up to the buyer. But to make a custom cake, knowing before the making that it will be used for a blasphemous act, makes the baker a party to something his religion forbids.
Blake Scott
Underrated
Anthony Cruz
>If you want to hate gays and be Christian, run a church. He's not a pastor, he's a baker If you want a gay fucking cake go to another baker
Chase Martin
I sure get to decide my moral values. That estrogen is kicking in hard.
sage btw.
John Sanders
Heterosexuals think youre disgusting and wouldn't know the first thing about what sort of nasty overtly sexualized cake two faggots or two carpet munchers would want to purchase. These are only some of the questions faced by any Baker who has faggot clients:
>Do they want HIV+ blood in the batter and frosting? You probably need special faggot baking machinery for that >Do they need their cake to look like a prolapsed anus? >Do they want to meth or other party drugs added to the cake? >Do we encounter additional legal risk by endorsing pedophilia with a boy lover themes cake?
Jace Morales
When people eat wedding cake, do they think, the baker must have blessed this union? Are the caterers for a Hindu wedding not allowed to be Jewish? Would anyone care?
Lucas Collins
They can refuse to make a cake for gays because they aren't required to make any cakes at all. Do you have to make a cake for a gay wedding if someone asks you to? No? Because you don't make cakes? Well that's you're right to not do so, and it was also THEIR right to not do so.
Kevin Peterson
If you want to discriminate against gays, open a church.
Ryan Anderson
>but you don't either? What are you trying to prove here faggot?
Landon Wood
That you are ignorant of the law and how it is applied. You only have emotional rhetoric and anecdotal evidence, like a woman.
Aaron Davis
Would you demand a muslim or Jewish baker handle bacon and make it part of the cake? For many even touching pork is considered bad.
Justin Long
Hanna and Tara know what's about to happen.
Gabriel Peterson
We are not a fucking people you ignorant foot fetishists aren't considered a community are they?
Jason Lopez
u can deny services 2 somebody simply b.c u dont like them -- u dont have a right 2 any1s skills
Parker Edwards
Or a legal prostitute refusing to have homosexual sex
Grayson Rivera
That's right, they are analogous and they are both moral.
Samuel Gonzalez
Yes. I don't think religious beliefs entitle exemptions to secular law.
Jonathan Adams
You already said that moron. If you want a faggot cake go to another baker. It's a private business they can do what they want. Just because liberals and the media normalized degeneracy doesn't mean people shouldn't care about their religion or traditional values
Hunter Bailey
There's (not yet!) any evidence foot fetishism is genetic and there hasn't been a sustained history of discrimination against them.
Jonathan Gonzalez
#AfricaSOBlack
Wyatt Kelly
You don't have the right to punish people or shame them publicly for being gay.
Justin Hall
I hate how stupid gays are
Gay logic examples >it's easier to adopt a kid then fuck it instead of kidnapping one >i should go to a normal bakery for my fetish cake instead of an erotic bakery >if a kid doesnt want to be gay i should force them to ruin their life as a tranny or suicide victim instead of accepting them like how i ask them to accept me >if you hate gays that means you want to fuck spiders t. Closet fag
Adam Long
>In both cases religion is used to mask the roots of intolerance. lol, where was Jesus cited in defense of segregation? Faggots sure are stupid.
Luke Adams
We do though, you cock starved Nancy boy. How did the peak of your social and cultural influence feel? I'll be sure to play some loud disco music for your kind on Rope Day.
Justin Barnes
Sure. If a baker does not want to make a wedding cake for a pagan wedding that should be fine too. The arguments here are not about vending. Its about artistic expression. The difference is a fine one but it is there. The baker said the gay couple can buy any cake they want off the shelf. He will not however make a custom cake. Where the former is a simple business transaction, the latter is an artistic expression that the participation in can be viewed as forced acceptance of religious heresy.
Isaac Thompson
>, like a woman Rich coming from someone who takes cock in their ass
Ian Smith
Yea, you do. It's called freedom of speech. Hate speech is still free speech.
Brayden Gonzalez
It's not, but it also doesn't matter. Private business, private property. Unless the business and/or its owners are acting as an agent for the state, how they run their business is nobody else's concern.
Jayden Thomas
Oh boohoo people didn't like us sucking off other men, welcome to the modern age we can marry i have a fucking husband just because a baker dosn't want to make us a cake dosn't equal discrimination
Julian Harris
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
A 1996 study from the Journal of Abnormal Psychology found that homophobic heterosexual men were most sexually aroused by gay male porn than non-homophobic hetero men.
A 2012 study of 785 college students published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found that “self-described highly straight individuals” who “indicated some level of same-sex attraction” were significantly more likely than others to “express greater implicit hostility toward gay subjects” including supporting anti-gay policies.
A 2017 study published in the journal Sex Roles said that men who felt insecure about their masculinity were more likely to make homophobic and sexist jokes to appear more manly.
Tbh, I don't understand why they say "not doing it!" I'd say "ok,it costs *insert huge sum here*"
Logan Morgan
You dont have the right to my services. Forcing me to serve you is literally slavery. Kys sage
Levi Evans
Footsexuals are contributing, respectable members of society who needn't impose a parade or a faggot bugchasing festival on public streets. Why would you attack such a benign community?
Jordan Lewis
Being an faggot, I see nothing wrong with this. If someone was to commission a painter to paint futa anal vore, and the painter didn't want to, it would be fully within the painter's rights to do that. Intolerant? Sure. That's kind of irrelevant though. People shouldn't be forced to be tolerant. The law exists to actively protect people's freedom, and people are not free to be entitled to other people's work.
William Baker
Our influence has only started.
This is not about art this is about flimsy excuses to fuck with gay people cuz ur mad we can marry now and want to be able to harm us.
And bakers are still allowed to tell couples they don't personally support gay marriage.
Noah Flores
In the USA Yes, not in leafland
Camden Harris
>when you adopt a kid for your pedo fantasies instead of using that time and money to be a sex tourist in romania, thailand,
Alexander Williams
Sage !!!!
Caleb Wright
This /thread
Andrew Mitchell
This
Oliver Carter
Because just like the bake I find it disgusting however i do admire how they aren't holding foot prides i find the practice retarded and glorified child indocrtination
Elijah Jenkins
Would she go into a Muslim bakery and demand that they make her a cake with a cartoon of Muhammad on it? Or does this only apply to Christian bakers?
Joseph Jenkins
Just called trudeau. Enjoy prison, bigot
Caleb Wright
Section 2 of charter of rights and freedom my friend, with a good (jewish) lawyer, you'll still win your case
Liam Carter
And what if I'm white and ask a black dry cleaners to wash my klan robe? I saw some guy do this in a youtube video.
Adrian Roberts
>This You are equal in the eyes of the law and government. That is what equality is. You cannot force individuals to accept whatever you want them to accept.
Daniel Reed
>implying all fags enjoy pride parades/are bugchaser and don't hate them just as much as everyone else
Elijah Torres
i'm terrified!
Carter Moore
There was a case that was lost I think.
Benjamin Miller
Love it how fucking OP ignores this. Makes me genuinely want to ignore anything that community says given how much bullshit he spews. Fortunately the Supreme Court is going to see the facts and the baker will be right. Rainbow flavored tears for everyone that day.
Elijah Howard
>How is refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding and different than refusing to serve Black customers at a restaurant?
Both good things
Joseph Price
This
David Cooper
>YesAllGays
Daniel Brown
don't be a fag then
Ethan Flores
Many were also won. Don't be a poorfag and get yourself a good jewish lawyer
Matthew Jenkins
You should be. You go to jail while an isis convert comes home to hugs and ez money
