As a man in today's sexually liberal culture, is it possible to be a traditionalist and remain chaste (i.e. a virgin) before marriage and to find a virgin bride?
If so, is it advisable?
What are the political seems social ramifications of sticking to vs relinquishing traditionalism?
yeah its easy to be a virgin just dont have sex. It's not advisable because of two reasons.
The first is that sex is a skill you have to practice to be good at. Your honeymoon is the superbowl of sex. You dont want to go to the superbowl without ever having thrown a football.
The second reason is that some people are not sexually compatible and this is a highly important feature of a relationship that shouldnt be ignored. You dont want to find out that the things she needs are thing you wont do, or vice versa, after you're already legally and emotionally attached.
Leo Foster
You are a degenerate
Any relationship built on lust is weak at best
Brandon Phillips
>As a man in today's sexually liberal culture, is it possible to be a traditionalist and remain chaste (i.e. a virgin) before marriage Absolutely, just need the Holy Spirit and a willing heart. I'm 22 and still a virgin. >and to find a virgin bride? Haha yeah no women are whores
Connor Jones
Yes it is possible, and yes it is advisable
Christopher Davis
>is it possible to be a traditionalist and remain chaste (i.e. a virgin) before marriage yes > and to find a virgin bride? no.
Anthony Torres
Sure, if that's what you want.
Nathan Young
dey eat da pee pee. gotta love the mucussy holes for the mucussy hook noses
Christian Peterson
>people are not sexually compatible and this is a highly important feature of a relationship that shouldnt be ignored. Seen this ruin many a traditional Christian marriage and even non Christian marriages. It’s silly to not have safe sex and figure out what you are looking for. Virgins are a terrible lay (speaking to point 1). But I relished the tears from all the tryhard fundies I used to know- one chick in particular had sick and bizarre ideas about sex and a husbands role (thanks church! Actually all those chicks did) born of ignorance from the pulpit all the way down. In a time when families have a 50/50 rate of divorce this is just a bunch of insulated virgins and ironic folks pushing agendas. Be responsible. Figure that shit out. It WILL break up a marriage. It’s not and shouldn’t be the focus of the relationship but the bond created (or not) makes all the difference. That smug bitch was miserable lol, I watched with baited breath as mutual friends told me of her misery spiral. Shit was glorious. Only tards place so much emphasis on sex because they have no balance, no equilibrium, that chaste shit in turn produces people obsessed with sex. When that shit isn’t what their imagination concocted, well, that way lies madness and a sick fetish. And possibly some porn.
Jeremiah Richardson
Second part hits the nail on the head. Plus i know from family experience a virgin chick might just be a nympho and not know it and you can't unring that bell.
Uncle was full tradcath found virgin at church at 24 after they banged he always bragged about how good he was / how much she wanted to fuck afterwards by 26 (probably earlier) she was sleeping around behind his back and he was on the edge of fucking suicide because divorce is a sin (ironic).
It's a 1/10000000 shot to find the right girl to pull it off.
Carson Perry
Are you a man or a woman?
Austin Ross
as a man you need to fuck around a lot. It really helps you tell the difference between the bad and good women. Also, you need to pound a pussy into submission very quickly in a relationship you intend on trying to turn into something long term.
Zachary Reed
>yes goyim, don't forget to fuck around like a bitch in heat
Aiden Davis
>it bothers me deep down. As it should, you did good. I would say you can still marry, women don't really care about sex they just use it to acquire money and status. If you do, remember to have white babies and NO racemixing
Oliver Jenkins
You literally know nothing about chemicals, slut lover.
Charles Moore
What are you even insinuating?
Xavier Reed
It's obviously possible, but it's inevitably going to be difficult. As for advisability, that depends on what you're motivated by. If you want to see a society which is traditional and chaste before marriage and believe these things are good, then it stands to reason that these are things worth doing yourself. Similarly, "enjoying the decline" and acting like a sexual liberal yourself makes you outwardly indistinguishable from the people whose beliefs you've set yourself against - in fact your behaviour lends force to the normativity of their behaviour. As for ramifications, not having sex before marriage is a weird thing to do by modern secular standards and it will be harder to find a partner who engages in this same minority practice that you do. The obvious solution is joining a traditionalist church (and the younger you are, the better).
I'm thinking about this stuff at the moment too. Perpetuating tradition against the modern world is going to be hard and is realistically going to demand things you don't want to give up - we were all born moderns after all.
Kevin King
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Jason Williams
>Your honeymoon is the superbowl of sex.
Jordan Martin
>what if the child consents >ancap flag this is why flag is replacing your flag
Austin Miller
You can't actually refute it. What a good stooge you are.
Jack Gonzalez
Desirable? Yes Possible? Yes Probable? No Advisable? No
Just use the r-selected strategy and bust nuts in as many thots as you can. That's what the enemy does.
Evan Davis
is there an argument coming in soon?
Jacob Roberts
>Just use the r-selected strategy and bust nuts in as many thots as you can. So just give up and submit to degeneracy? How inspiring.
James Flores
>Your honeymoon is the superbowl of sex. You dont want to go to the superbowl without ever having thrown a football. You must be an actual virgin to say shit like that. Plus when two people have sex multiple times they can learn what the other person enjoys. Also goddamn you are so fucking stupid to think marriage is about something as simple as sex. Know what matters in a marriage? Shared values and financial planning. You're sexually comptatable with virtually everyone of the opposite sex.
Parker Wood
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Joseph Robinson
> be virgin loser > tell people it's a choice
Brayden Gutierrez
>Know what matters in a marriage? Shared values and financial planning. This.
Levi Cox
Men don't need to remain chaste but women become functionally useless for long term marriage the more and more dicks she goes through. Zero or one previous sexual partners is a reasonable amount if you plan on investing in her like that.
Angel Hernandez
>muh dikk lol
Luke Wright
Planned Parenthood and voluntary sterlilization for thots and manwhores is your actual solution. Your goal is for every unmarried pregnant woman to abort. Eugenics works.
Thomas Lee
t.degenerate
Gabriel Davis
> be virgin loser > tell people it's a choice
Luke James
oh look, another rostie who just hit the wall
Carter Allen
It's a bit extreme but at this point we've got to end degeneracy one way or another.
Joshua Martinez
I wish I was still a virgin. I've benefited nothing from sex. Oh sure it feels good and releases endorphins, dopamine and bonding chemicals, but that's all you get, a temporary chemical high with somebody who won't exist in your life a few months later.
Owen Howard
>people are losers because they are virgins
Carter Morales
How did you come to the conclusion that I think a marriage is about nothing but sex?
Dominic Roberts
Marry young (early 20s >But I don't want to be tied down Then you're not fit to have a virgin wife.
Work = reward
Lincoln Carter
There is nothing extreme about encouraging voluntary actions. It would be extreme if we forced abortion or sterilization.
Easton Edwards
You can say that about literally any pleasure you mook
Landon Sullivan
hi roastie
no one here is interested in your slutty ways
Christian Parker
Not everyone was raised on this shitty land with the mindset of "if your still a virgin you have failed at life" making losers go into depression or just losing it and start killing because muh sex
Grayson Harris
Because you put sex on the pedistal, while there are 23 hours left in the day.
Eli Long
If you're really dedicated and high status.
I have a friend who waited until marriage but he has Chad-tier looks and is in the Navy. Devoted Christian too.
Jace Brooks
so what does that make you, a slut winner?
Christopher Nguyen
You're right, I was wrong. Besides if your wife needs sexual satisfaction she can just fuck the chad she likes but didnt marry because of a lack of shared values and financial stability.
Ryder Green
You're almost smart enough to realize that hedonism is a fruitless endevaour, almost. Maybe one day you'll also learn that intentions are meaningless and only actions have value.
Evan Sanchez
R O A S T I E O A S T I E
Isaac Bailey
>two hours of just kissing what a fag
I mean come on just kissing?
Zachary Young
This honestly.
Dylan Adams
No they're losers because they pretend they are purposefully avoiding sex, when in reality they are lying to themselves because no one wants to fuck them, or they make little effort to do so
People like to fuck, its hardwired into you, it's what keeps the species going. No one is above it
Easton Stewart
Sighh this 'women only want to fuck Chad' meme needs to die. Women try to fuck Chad because Chad usually has high social status or money. Women trade sex for money, if you're already giving her money and keeping her happy she won't fuck chad because all her needs are already being met.
Henry Cook
Makes me someone not in horrible denial.
Ryder Peterson
Seeing a lot of assumptions here which are probably projection.
Here too
Jayden Perry
>tfw gf and I exchanged virginities
Good feels. I'll be proposing next year, Moissanite ring to not fall for the diamond jew
Grayson Young
This. Sup Forums can't grasp that people always have had sex before marriage. It was just really important to hide it back when social and familial pressures were huge. What I mean to say is there's a difference between caring about the image of yourself and your family in the community and having taste and tact and just banging everybody around.
Jeremiah Ross
it's a thread about sex and its relationship to marriage. If I responded with a diatribe about balancing check books and which way the toilet paper rolls out I just would've been off topic.
See this attitude is what I meant by "dont ignore it". It's just taken for granted that if anyone puts any importance on sex that they must be obsessed with it. It's a real issue. It destroys marriages. Pretending it isn't is just virtue signalling.
Ryder Thomas
Congrats user, here's to many happy years. Though you should have waited for the wedding night.
Robert Martin
Where on earth did you get this idea from?
James Young
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Charles Rivera
And one built on 100% love doesn't exist
Evan Jenkins
I'm 26 and I've had two sexual partners (since I was 23). One was my girlfriend, and the other was a friend. I don't plan on doing the sex until I get married. What does that make me?
Colton Bailey
Women need to remain virgins. They cannot psychologically handle sleeping with multiple partners.
Anthony Moore
This is such a horrible but we'll meaning post
Austin Flores
I'd rather kill myself than have sex "just because i'm hard wired to". No, I'm not ugly, I'm attractive, but that doesn't change the fact. Call me autistic if you like, but I never agreed to this, and if your best argument is "just because lmao" I'd rather not.
Evan Murphy
I'm pretty blackballed on the whole W*men situation desu. Perhaps its where I live (Connecticut), but I've had a hard time getting any interest in girls. I just want some modesty, some innocence, and some piety in a girl, but I just don't see that. To me, it seems as though girls try to emulate men in speak, function in life, and dress
what does a nigga gotta do to get a girl who wears a skirt around here?
Gavin Campbell
Evolutionary psychology. Women crave men with resources. Men crave women who are fertile and young.
Nicholas Perez
It's not ideal but you'll probably be fine. Men aren't as ruined by premarital sex as women are.
Hunter Lopez
Funny how you just ahve to not know love to say that. >kys or kys, 2 choices. 1 way.
Ian Young
we live in a sick world.
partaking in the sickness will do no good
Jordan Adams
>I've had two sexual partners >I don't plan on doing the sex until I get married. That makes you very confusing, I'd say. Could you try English, Flipmonkey?
Christopher Ramirez
Smart.
Always abstain from sex with someone you plan on spending the rest of your life with. Sex clouds your judgment. All those bonding chemicals have a way of making you gloss over flaws that become very real the moment you go through a dry spell with your partner.
Oliver Hernandez
>it seems as though girls try to emulate men Yep. All I want is a little femininity. Shit's rare.
Julian Powell
>blackballed I HATE Mac OS
Justin Morales
>Superbowl of sex
The marriage is the Superbowl. It lasts 50 years. That's a lifetime of practice. Retarded comparison you got there.
Alexander Russell
I was just trying to be witty, friend (keyword: try).
Jason Stewart
This, well at least it should be although we all know women stop having sex after the kids are born.
Dylan Gonzalez
t. degenerate roastie tradthot
Noah Bell
I think the best thing would probably be having 1-3 partners in a lifetime. Always entering the relationship with the hope that it will eventually end in marriage but not forcing it at all costs if something should go wrong. This is doable if people have a moral compass and are encouraged by family and society. This means family life should be glorified in media, academia etc. as much as possible. Yes, you can still do this even when the society around you is fucking degenerate but it'll be harder obviously and lonely at times. Although people who fuck a new person every weekend feel as lonely if not worse. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hate the society we live in.
Colton Cruz
I've been thinking as of late that maybe my standards are too high, then again I really just don't know. I like to think its better elsewhere, but I just don't know >tfw 19 going on 20 and aint never had a girlfriend
Jordan Watson
It would be better if you recommended a church's pre-marriage counseling so the man and woman can go down the checklist of important things like: >VALUES VALUES VALUES >how many children? >whose job is more important? >If there are any housework/cleaning annoyances >finance and budgeting, especially savings and entertainment spending >Shared interests and hobbies >Interests and hobbies that aren't shared >expectations regarding sex We have more than three generations ruined because they don't know the difference between love and lust.
Adam Roberts
C'mon be real. We are humans.
All people have short-comings and they have to make up for those short comings in some way to keep you in love with them.
Eli Bennett
why? what's your point?
I'm not going to accuse anyone of being a virgin because it's irrelevant to anyone's point, but the truth is that in sex some people need certain things to enjoy it that other people absolutely cannot endure. Any kind of example I could try to contrive will just be met with "I'd like that" and/or "that would never happen"
And if I could get any of you to agree that it is, I'm sure I'd be met with people saying that it's not important, and that they'd just nut up over it or have a sexless marriage. It's not sustainable. The party not having their needs met will build resentment to the other. This resentment will grow with time and sabotage other parts of the relationship.
Anthony Cooper
>We have more than three generations ruined because they don't know the difference between love and lust. strewth
Nolan Carter
go with the flow
Oliver Parker
>tfw 22 going on 23 and aint never had a girlfriend God has someone for you user, just like he has someone for me. Trust him.
Michael Cruz
Men were never supposed to be virgins at marriage, idiot. Only women were. Men were expected to fuck whores etc, only women were supposed to be chaste. Show me in the bible where it says a man is supposed to be a virgin till marriage
Ayden Brown
its hardwired to have babies as well , then how come people just have sex with condom for " fun " mh? guess the hardwire is not so hard
Carter Davis
and how did you miss the class on mating instincts and sexual behavior?
This "craving" manifests as sexual arousal and behavior. You can't just pay a woman a salary and suddenly she doesn't want to have sex anymore.
Jaxson Johnson
why is this such a controversial redpill? you dont actually have to have sex with the girl until shes ready you know...
marriage != sex
Justin Lewis
Quite simple you fucking retard. If women are supposed to be chaste where are men supposed to find whores to fuck? Fucking kill yourself.
Robert Robinson
Rare as fuck, if you're really from the Philippines. Good on you.
Bad at socializing or just picky?
I've had one girlfriend, she left me. She was a virgin (as was I of course). Long-distance doesn't work. Don't know about the god-thing, praying never helped me.
Matthew Martin
Incorrect. Manwhores are just as degenerate.
Gavin Hill
Then you're going to not be a good lover on your most important romantic night. Maybe you can tell the story of how awkward it was to oyur other married friends. Then you nudge your wife and say "But I got better right honey?" And she'll go "AHAHAHAHAHA WAY BETTER" with absolutely no smile in her eyes.
John Howard
laugh at me if you will, I consider myself a romantic of sorts. I take stock in remaining chaste till marriage, only sharing intimacy with only one other. being someone's mutual first, as it were I hope youtube.com/watch?v=drsMyeXzLSo
Andrew Allen
Because (((someone))) really doesn't want them to even think about it so they brainwash people as hard as they possibly can.
Ryan Diaz
Lol sure. Here’s another thing that blows the mind of the repressed. Your god may plan for you to never marry or have sex and you’d have to be a-ok with it or you’re literally being a degenerate and blasphemous. Don’t worry you will enjoy your dowdy vanilla wife, unfulfilling sex and that ever-creeping regret. Fundies get so triggered.
Jack Brooks
>a virgin
A man can't be a virgin because a man does not have a maidenhead. Only women can be virgins.
Jeremiah Collins
This. Of course the kissless permavirgins will deny this. Whatever, just keep convincing yourself that you’re “waiting til marriage”