COME ALL YE FAITHFUL /CG/ CHRISTIANITY GENERAL

Let's do this.

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please counter these agruments.
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I am jew that wants to become Christian.

This garbage belongs on

fuck you, this isn't garbage.
fuck you user, you dumb motherfucker

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Very Christian of you.

My nationalism and my faith weakens with the passage of time, I have begun to read the Bible again to find strength but my pride does not let me advance in my faith and my goals, it is as if my egoism forbids me to ask for help from others and even Jesus, what can I do user?

I'm not a christian yet. OP has not anwsered my first question/post

My mistake. Carry on.

You seek this not of love for your bretheen but to remove yourself from God's grace. I will pray for you tonight, user that ye may receive the light which is given to all our brothers. Whether you accept it or not is up to you.

how am i trying to remove myself from gods grace??

Love it when non- Christians try to lecture Christians about what is and isn't Christian behaviour. Real fucking nice.

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YOUR CHURCH IS FAKE

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Anons, what is the deal with icons and depicting Christ?

It seems as if many in the early church were against depicting Christ and believed it only suitable for him to be represented in the Cross and in the Eucharist. Why exactly did the Eastern church have iconoclasm and how did the Western Church feel about it?

Also, is there any difference between the icon on the left and the painting on the right? Are Eastern Icons and Western paintings basically the same thing and heresy on the eyes of some?

I haven't been to church in ages and I went again for my grandma's funeral in the summer and it felt very good to go back to church.

Now is the time for men of action, lift your neighbors up inspired by his grace and find the peace that is his gift. Read Paul through Corinthians and see if you're not inspired to fellowship. Look outside yourself to say this GOOD NEWS.

You won't get a good answer here. What you are asking requires years of study of both the NT and OT in the original Greek / Hebrew respectively. Jesus fulfilled certain "qualifications" of being the Messiah, but not all of them. Paradoxically some of the qualifications are "impossible", off the top of my head, arriving before second temple, and building the third temple. One can argue that Jesus didnt have to do all that in one go and is waiting to fulfill qualifications he hasn't yet. He is technically immortal.

We can do this, Anons. It is our calling.

We must focus on a topic of utmost importance my fellow faithful.

We must break the chains of the judaizers, the dual covenant theology heretics, and the "christian zionists."

How can we help to break our brothers and sisters free from these evils, such that the scales may fall from their eyes?

by exposing to them the evils of the jew and the jews hatred of christianity

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1. Jesus did accomplish the majority of prophecies and also

a. Jesus is coming back and the third temple may be built again but besides that the premise is stupid because Ezekiel 37:26-28 does not say anything about a third temple,

I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever. 27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 28 Then the nations will know that I the Lord make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.’”

Jewish Rabbis twist the words. Judaism is spiritually dead because the Judaic tradition did not stay with them but rather passed on to Christianity.

b. All Jews are in Israel now badabing badabang

c. Jesus will return to usher in an era of world peace in the ladder days/end times.

d. Christianity is pretty much spread to every corner of the world and God has come to every peoples on the planet. Spiritually all humanity is united and if not in that way New Jerusalem will bring it about.

2. But he did. Martin Luther in his book "The Jew's and their Lies", made because Jews have lost their spiritual tradition and turned to the devil, remarks about how he would rather be a sow than live in a world with the Pharisees and the common jew's preferred Messiah, who is warrior and delivers the world up to the Jews on a silver platter and gives each Jew 3800 slaves as said in Torah.

3.

A. Look at your own translation and figure it out for yourself stop following Rabbi's. The Teachers have been leading the Jewish people to ruin since the start.

B. Jesus is a suffering servant. Also Isiah Chapter 53 has no mention of a suffering servant.

"He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain."

"Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,"

Both of which did happen.

4. God did tell all of you Jews about Jesus and he told you himself through Jesus. You rejected Him and now you are suffering the consequences of being led astray and being a Synagogue of Satan.

Reminder that Jesus was a Jew and he was hated by every other Jew.

Also stop fucking interpreting the Bible as a Law Book.

Also the Torah is evil and was made after Jesus's Death and by Satanic Pharisees. It reads as a law of Jewishness and a guidebook of how to enslave and hurt the peoples whom land you inhabit.

I was in the same situation and then I realized it feels better and holier to be "nationalist" or just really proud about Christianity rather than a Nation. That's not to say however that you should not respect or honor your Land, you should, but not to the extent that it is above God.

user here currently going though the rite of initiation for the Catholic Church. What should I do/read to get more in touch with the faith? What should I remove from my life to get more in touch with with Jesus Christ, our lord and savior?

Reminder you can't be a patriot of both the Kingdom of God and a mortal country.

Christians are, without exception, hypocrites or traitors.

Please go and watch Brother Nathanael on YT brother. He can explain things perfectly as an Jew who turned Orthodox Christian. You will be surprised by how much you will learn. Watch his videos on "Why I left Judaism" and "My Jewish Past".

Bless you and be find your strength in the Truth!

A jew is afraid.
An afraid jew pushes (((xianity))) to put the "goys" under control.

As a prediction that came true, here's another one:

NOT GONNA WORK! We're going all in.

A spirit has risen.

Also read the fucking bible yourself, read the entirety of the Torah/Old Testament and then take a look at the New Testament and tell me you don't sense God there. All the arguments you want are in there.

Pray. I have been recommended Theresa of Avila for spiritual reading. I like Chesterton personally (he is funny).

Exactly.
There is no hypocrisy in not worshipping your Nation. Its hypocrisy to hold the Nation above God.

Also nation is an artificial and stupid satanist concept introduced by Enlightenment Thought and the French Revolution, both secular and athiestic and satanist. There is only country.

tfw God has answered your prayers and has cursed the Muslims with Jews.

>Build the Third Temple
done. pic related.
>Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
happening right now

and everything else seems like it's happening.

It is revelation is all coming true.

As we see more stuff coming I recommend going to the wilderness and not participating in society. We won't be able to stop the wave of degeneracy and sin that is coming as it is already foretold, the only thing you can do is not be part of the sin and degeneracy.

>Being an evangelical prot.
>Not being basically a crypto-jew
pick

don't understand your point or accusations.
try using your words and not greentext implications.

I can't explain (2). admittedly.

Evangelical Protestants, with their old testament obsessions act like crypto jews.

Christians and Pagans need to get along, at least for right now. Our enemies are not one another.

All authority comes from the Lord our Father in heaven. To act as a father is to emulate his Spirit.

Girls love it when you act like their daddy. Kids grow up strong when you act like a father with authority. All victory comes from One Source.

okay. seems like you made a completely unrelated point.
are you calling me protestant?

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You sound like one

ah, then you must know!

Are you not?

Bump!!!!!

no. I don't play musical church.

>worshiping kikes
No thanks rabbi.

Catholic or Ortho?

Ortho true faith.

American convert?

neither.

idk charles barkley said christanity was the problem, i mean thats a pro basketball player. really makes you think.

Christ has been depicted since the ancient church
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_of_Edessa
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon#Emergence_of_the_icon

Iconoclasm was partially influenced by the close proximity of the eastern Church to Islamic and Judaic people, which are iconoclastic.

The image on the left is an icon, the one on right is a western work of art. One main difference is the halo, icons of Christ always have a cross in the halo, and icons don't display action or emotion usually.

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Christian here. It speaks volumes about our time and the world we live in that the Christian General could only exist on politically incorrect. I guess that's why me and the only other Christian at work that I know of root for the super volcano in Yellowstone to erupt and end the disgusting, evil, disappointing world once and for all.

Go super volcano! You can do it!

Most Orthos that i have met tend to stand more in line with the whole "neither the day nor the hour" bit than with the millenarianism the end is nigh look at the signs stuff

Yes, I am catechumen and go to one that is majority American rather than Russian or Greek and the such,

Does anyone have anything good about the soul, why it should exist?

I want to believe but I see no reason for souls. I've already read Aquinas and it does nothing for me. The soul being the ability doesn't work for me either cause there seem to be other animals that can think abstractly although not as well as us.

only God knows to which church I belong. Sincerely.

I thought this said Merry Christmas Job. As in, Job the guy from the Bible who suffers mercilessly at the hands of Satan and never curses God.

It's not that complex user.

Nice pictures of Holy People and Holy things that also express theological truths help one get close to God.

I seem to have been getting you two confused. My apologies.

Orthobro. Cath user here, but the Baptist end is nigh stuff is really dumb. You know neither the day nor the hour.

Any room for some Catholic papes?
Also college Catholic here
Altar server, Master of Ceremonies, sacristan, rectory desk worker if anyone wants to chat.

No one knows the day or the hour, that is true, the prophecies are slowly coming true and the world is getting more and more sinful, it could be a 100 years or 500, or a 1000, but I am inclined to currently believe that the conditions are slowly happening. By the time it happens I will probably be dead though.

All I can say is my opinion, I am no means an authority on this...
Icons and paintings are both representations of Christ, Mary, biblical scenes, etc. While paintings try to capture the more realistic side of whatever event is portrayed (the transfiguration for example), icons capture "what was really going on" through symbolism. Rather than striving to be photographic and realistic, they are an instrument for prayer and meditation, and are literally an "icon," a representation, of some event or of Jesus, Mary, etc.
When praying or in church, I personally prefer icons to paintings because I find them much more meaningful. When eastern Christians bow before an icon or kiss it, it is a gesture that reflects their veneration of Jesus, etc. When paintings try too hard to be realistic I think we can miss the point sometimes, because we try to appreciate the painting for its artistic value.
If you're interested, look on ancientfaith.com and see if you can find any podcasts about icons, they can explain it way better.

tips for making to through the fast without starving?

>You know neither the day nor the hour.
obviously. hence why I couldn't meet that jew's criteria. I have no idea.

Nice bro, if you don't mind me asking where do you go to school? I go to CSU and we have a ton of catholics here. I think I'm going to get into altar serving next year because the guys that alter serve are leaving for seminary.

Blessings to you all! May our Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us!!

No idea, I'm terrible at fasting...
What do you have to do for the pre nativity fast serbia? I am eastern cathollic and all we are required to do is not eat meat on fridays, like the rest of the year.

Yeah it's taking forever. The Jews and Mudslimes are fighting so slowly, just a little here a little there. Why don't they just have it out at Armageddon already? They say the blood will be to the horse's bridal, maybe we can televise the event and watch it at home to see what happens. Vegas will be taking bets I'm sure.

Joking of course, God save their anti-Christ little souls... although we know already from prophecy it's only a matter of time.

God bless everyone in this thread.

>fukk Christianity its garbage lol
>posts picture of Gucci

Fuck off Kyle

I would never give where I go to school away on a Malaysian silk-farming forum, however it's in NYC and there are no other genuine Catholics in attendance. We have weekly mass, and less than 5 people attend, usually ~3 on average.

The Rosary

Saint Irenaeus and Saint Ambrose and Saint Justin Martyr were all very Apocalyptic. Its a sincerely catholic thing to get into it's just that Martin Luther made it unsavory. Church fathers originally taught, including Saint Hippolytus as well as the ones above that Christ Would return or the tribulation would begin at the 6,000 mark. They also taught taht te tribulation would last 3 1/2 half years

Reminder to all anons to cast off the sins of lust and give up porn. I know it's one of the most common mortal sins. With lust the devil fishes with a net, as they say. Pray earnestly and it will happen. It did for me.

I'm on day 3. Pray for me, user.

That's nice...

Damn, that sucks. I have heard a lot of shitty things about Catholicism in NYC...it's doing really well here in Colorado though. Both CSU and CU, our two major schools, gather pretty big crowds, especially to our student masses on Thursday nights. We probably have 10 guys that later serve on Thursday nights.

Request bump

This. This is one of the greatest books ever written and will not take you long to read.

P p p p power cucks!

>feeling good after being in church
>autism

I'll take "derp" for $400 Alex, "what is projection"

Three Hail Marys, just for you.

Hypothesis confirmed

The soul is but a small piece of the entire spirit of God. The Spirit was at the beginning one entity, but then it split up into individuals. When you are everything in existence, breaking it up and experiencing different possible situations helps God experience himself.

Wow that's reassuring
I thought NY was the last Catholic holdout in the country, everywhere else was just as bad or worse. That's great.

where do I read user. Am a baptist but have high regard for tradition and church fathers teachings. They all used the Bible to make final arguments and to defend against heresy.

Thanks man, god bless.

qqrE27

discord for right wing christians if yall want to come and hang

It's funny how different universities have different cultures. One of my friends here went to Regis, a catholic university in Denver, when she was a freshman and she was practically the only Catholic there. I think in general the more "catholic" parts of the country such as the east coast and larger cities are suffering the most, whereas in western suburban places it's really taking off.
If you ever come anywhere out west, or maybe somewhere closer to where you live, go to a "student mass" near one of the larger universities, preferably one that has a FOCUS program. Everyone will be really friendly even if they've never seen you before. It's really reassuring to meet so many catholic young people. Also definitely go to World Youth Day in 2019.

Trips of truth; better start planning for World Youth Day. That's so good to hear. It's depressing here user, it really is. We're on the cusp of destruction, to tell you the truth. 80% of parishioners who attend Mass (in my home parish, by my estimate) are 50+ we just don't have anything for the youth. Ironically, we have one of the largest catholic school systems, elementary to university, but they beat the faith out of you. And all our priests are from India etc. God love em, but it makes paying attention at Mass that much more difficult. I need to move West

Dada is stroking for jebus.....

Midwest Dude. University Of Dallas is good (i know its in the south but a lot of midwesterners here) Benedictine, Franciscan (even if they are a bit charismatic, they are orthodox), Thomas Aquinas College, Christendom (outside DC) all super Catholic. what said is about right. The West and Midwest is flourishing check out the dioceses of Wichita and Lincoln if you want to feel a little hope

Find your local opus Dei or latin mass parish if you want to find other young people.

>NYC
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This hinges on the fact that the Jews' interpretation of scripture had them expecting a messiah who would give them an earthly kingdom. Jesus said the fulfillment of prophecy was in a new world - his kingdom is a spiritual one. It makes sense. How can a utopia without war exist in this fallen world, on earth in it's fallen state? Only God Himself could cleanse humanity of it's sin. That would be absolutely necessary and have to happen first before a world without war (a world that fits the description on the website you posted) could exist. And that's exactly what happened, God sent his Word incarnate in human flesh as a sacrifice to cleanse us of our sins and make a way back to Him.

The next step is the kingdom He's prepared for us, but that place and state of being can't exist here in our fallen world.

You need to read Hebrews in the New Testament. It's written for Jews. It's author Paul was a Jew who became an apostle of Christ.

no meat, poultry or egg for the duration of the fast. no preparing food with oil on wednesday and friday, fish is allowed on saturday and sunday as is wine. it's difficult