Is being gay a choice? Or are people born that way?

Is being gay a choice? Or are people born that way?

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It's a choice to embrace it or not. It's otherwise inherent as a philosophy or mental or social issue.
Sincerely,
Le open minded straight white male

OP was born gay

Neither

Like most behavior, it's roughly 50/50 genetic and learned. So a combination of both for the majority of people, I would imagine.

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I figure it's a choice in the same sense you being straight is a choice. There's nothing physically stopping you from sucking dick beyond you choosing not to. I think if someone wants to suck a dick they're probably being genuine about it, why should we put a proverbial gun to their head and make them chomp box when I wouldn't want a gun to my head making me suck dick. don't be a faggot about being a faggot tho

i asked this once, they told me they were born this way. i asked what do we do with all the gay children, they said children cant be gay.
dont argue with faggots. its a plague that spreads by infection (molestation). gas them, and move along.

>Is being gay a choice? Or are people born that way?
Doesn't matter. It's degenerate and has no place in White society. Anyone that disagrees with that is anti-White.

As lady gaga said

"I'm on the right track baby i was born this way".

So yes they are born that way, even ANIMALS of the same GENDER, they FUCK one another.

It doesn't matter, criminalising it will solve the problem either way.

Being gay is gay.

>So yes they are born that way, even ANIMALS of the same GENDER, they FUCK one another.
Animals mate and then kill their mate. I guess that's natural and therefore acceptable as well, huh?

gas the dykes gays war now

ok jew mason pedo. ban your shitty click dick. so effeminate and cucked. hand me your foreskin you cow. you dont deserve it. go back to ruining mankind and going shoe shopping with cindy
being your mom is being a whore

Are you trying to say that murder is the same as gay sex? You can't make that comparison

They are born that way but it fucks shit up societally a lot of times. Honestly gays just serve to be politically manipulated to further agendas.

A buddy for you faggots. Please contatc him. Someone earlier today said he likes bottom whatever that means.

It's not a choice and that BTFOs the notion that sexuality is a spectrum.

I think there are some males who are genuinely not attracted to females. If they are high value and don't behave like faggots who gives a shit (Turing, Morrissey, Burroughs, etc)

>Are you trying to say that murder is the same as gay sex?
Yes. Both are inherently destructive acts that harm society as a whole.

Homosexuals are self-destructive, dangerous and degenerate.

> You can't make that comparison
Of course I can. Homosexuality has no place in White society and the only reason we're even having this conversation is because the Jews have promoted, normalized and condoned homosexuality for decades.

You can be predisposed, but if not exposed to porn or (((experimenting))), come out a stable straight man from your hormonal years.

you are born with certain genetic predispositions which may cause you to have certain feelings, but it is ultimately your choice. we are humans not animals, we can override our feelings

You have to choose to have sex to be gay
So you would have to make a choice to be gay.

I choose to have not gay sex.

Some, I would say even most, or irrefutably born that way. If you’ve ever known someone who was at flaming faggot from a young age, you know that they didn’t choose that shit. It’s basically a brain defect.

ew, what kind of self-respecting faggot would fuck a nigger?

No, really... I know gays are mentally ill, but they're supposed to like men, y'know? Not gorillas in cotton. Go ahead and associate gays and bestiality somewhere jewish. Normal gays, the few that exist, wouldn't even respond to a nigger on a dating app. The nigger should know his place.... I mean, to fucking go ahead and try to initiate things with a white man? HAH. Maybe circumcised Americans are into that.

This.

If he still jack off to men and fantasize about them all day (and you probably do) that still makes you gay.

NOT POLITICS, FUCK YOU.

Neither. A shockingly large proportion of gay men were molested as little boys. The community doesnt talk about it, but its very true.

So which do you desire? If you desire pussy, then stop desiring it and start desiring men. After all it’s hust a choice. Bet you can’t do it.

No. You are born gay or not born gay. To be clear with you faggots irritate me and I'm heterosexual.

Born that way, just like all mentally ill people.

>Yes. Both are inherently destructive acts that harm society as a whole.


How exactly is two consenting adults of the same gender having sex harming anyone else? There's gay people in society but i rarely come in contact with them them and they literally have no effect on my life.

You can't compared 2 consenting adults fucking to someone murdering someone else. You don't think murder is worse? Are you a degenerate?

Do i think being gay is good? I don't care because it has no fucking effect on my life.

100% homos, the kind who find women repulsive and are exclusively attracted to men, are usually born like it. The "bi" ones, the ones who like guys and girls, or only like feminine guys, are usually just prison gay.

Fucking drugs, man

My wife likes pussy too. Always has been attracted to women ever since she was a girl. And she had a storybook childhood. And now she’s a doctor. And now I have two wives basically. Life’s good. Truth is, if you hate homosexuals with a passion, odds are you are yourself gay.

Fake and gay.

i had a psychotic break and thought i was bi

>How exactly is two consenting adults of the same gender having sex harming anyone else?
Because you don't leave it in the fucking bedroom now, do you? You and the Jews force everyone to "tolerate" and "accept" you otherwise you attempt to ruin their fucking lives. You distort and destroy tradition.

> There's gay people in society but i rarely come in contact with them
That's because they're a minuscule portion of the population yet the kikes promote them as a majority and promote everything they do and are as natural.

>and they literally have no effect on my life.
Then why the fuck should they be supported or condoned or promoted so much?

>You can't compared 2 consenting adults fucking to someone murdering someone else.
Yes, I can and just did. Both are inherently destructive acts.

>You don't think murder is worse?
No, they're just the same. Murder takes the life of a person. Faggotry prevents the life of the people.

>Are you a degenerate?
Do you even know the fucking definition of the word?
dictionary.com/browse/degenerate?s=t
1. to fall below a normal or desirable level in physical, mental, or moral qualities; deteriorate:

>Do i think being gay is good?
No, there is literally nothing good about being a faggot.

>I don't care because it has no fucking effect on my life.
And yet it's being shoved down our throats at every opportunity. Why is that?

You think racemixing isn't being promoted as good and natural?

You think diversity and multiculturalism isn't being promoted as good and natural?

You think mass migration isn't being promoted as good and natural?

According to science, it's not a choice, but because the "fault" falls on the mother you don't hear much about it.

A lot of people who are clinically depressed or suffering from some other mental illness can temporarily develop an attraction to the same sex and become convinced they're gay. You don't hear much about this because it adds weight to the argument that being gay is a mental illness in itself.

False dichotomy. People go gay due to their experiences. There may (or may not) be genes that predispose someone to becoming gay, but it's not a certainty.

source: know a pair of identical twins where one dude is straight and the other a homo

yea it was pretty fucking funny in retrospect

also this

youtube.com/watch?v=dZwPpxF93uA

>According to science, it's not a choice
Science is becoming more and more politicized.

Anyone who thinks any real, honest and acceptable research is being done in the fields of sexuality, race reality, climate change or the holocaust is kidding themselves.

Sup Forums and anime turned me gay

Boys are better than girls

If sticking my penis into bee hive is not a choice, then yes you are born with it.

I am a bee

Its learned behavior

I don't know OP, why don't you tell me?

Dicks are certainly more aesthetic and interesting than pussies, but aside from that men are fucking gross.

They become gays because things happen during their life,i know a girl who is ex lesbian,she saw her parents fucking as a child and became gay,only realised it after she went to a professional!

fucking an ape definitely is

These arguments could hold water if straight people weren't just as degenerate now. Sexual liberation of women, normalization of extreme sex acts, abortion and divorce rates sky high

The world has fallen to degeneracy and it's too far gone to save, no one asked to be born into this shit all you can do is make yourself as happy as possible before everything goes up in flames

Of course they are. You live with a penis your whole life. You learn to love it, to admire it's features. And when you see another equally nice looking dick well you can't help but admire it as well. Vaginas are just a bit more mysterious, but make no doubts women are preferable to men. Futa is the future

Here's a thought, mind your own fucking business and let people do what they want as long as it doesn't affect you or break the law.

That goes for both sides.

We will never really know until we eliminate homosexuality as a social norm and remove the modern homosexual lifestyle from our society because they prevent us from properly researching the science. That said, here is the gay red pill:

Fact 1: Homosexuality isn't genetic.(Schacter, Daniel L., Gilbert, Daniel T., and Wegner, Daniel M. (2009) "Psychology". Worth Publishers: 435.)
Twin studies prove this. If it were genetic it would appear in twins at a higher frequency. If there are genetic markers they are epigentic which means they exist in your genes but are triggered by your environment. Litterally chemicals may be turning the frigging frogs gay.

Fact 2: Homosexuality has a high co-morbidity with psychological problems (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17450453)
Its blatant that if not the direct cause of homosexuality, homosexual lifestyles are not optimal for human development. From personal attestation I know exactly 0 gay people who did not have high levels of anxiety, brain disorders or who were abused as children, and I had a shitton of gay friends. If you know a gay person there's a good chance they've been raped or molested as a child. (borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000029)

Fact 3: Homosexuality has never been a lifestyle choice until modern times.
Despite all protestations to the opposite, there's a difference between cultures where sex between men was acceptable and being a fag. Romans enjoyed sex with men. Romans also got married and had kids. Romans believed in families, and never got into silly debates about the merits of gay marriages. Romans who were fags were considered weird too.

TL;DR - Masturbating into a mans anus is one thing, being a faggot is something else entirely.

I was born and suddenly I went agianst my basic human nature and fucked a guy..

Said noone honest MF ever.
Gays are sexual deviants, period.

Repeated Endorphin and Oxytocin release
when you jack off to homosexual porn will eventually make you a fag or bisexual. Why'd you think so many people have came out since porn is now readily available? People literally wear themselves out looking at straight porn and eventually move onto deviations.

>These arguments could hold water if straight people weren't just as degenerate now.
And who's fault do think that is, hmm?

>Sexual liberation of women, normalization of extreme sex acts, abortion and divorce rates sky high
The promotion of feminism, pornography and degeneracy of traditional values is just as Jewish as the promotion of homosexuality.

>The world has fallen to degeneracy
Not naturally.

>and it's too far gone to save
You think that because you actually like the degeneracy.

>no one asked to be born into this shit all you can do is make yourself as happy as possible before everything goes up in flames
So in other words your argument for the support of faggotry is "the jews have won, join them and destroy everything because idgaf!"

Under your reasoning you should support pedophilia, rape, bestiality and incest, right?

I don't think being gay is a choice but being an insufferable faggot is.