Complete history of Net Neutrality regulations and Corporate shady business dealings that violates NN rules before and after 2015.
Pai lies and Anti-NN arguments dispelled here.
Complete history of Net Neutrality regulations and Corporate shady business dealings that violates NN rules before and...
Gabriel Reed
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telecomsense.com
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Zachary Sullivan
>twitter pic chart
So, what you're saying is: even after NN was finalized in 2015 the carriers still did shit.
Christian Walker
Mason Collins
Bump.
Aiden Howard
Yeah, basically started around 2007 til now. FCC was the one battling with the ips companies to play far til Pai took office of the FCC
Jonathan Ramirez
Can I get something dispelled for me? Alright, so why does Soros support NN?
Hudson Brown
NN is SOPA/PIPA/CISPA with a pretty name and a legion of retards supporting it. Soros supports it because he wants government regulation of internet content.
Parker Taylor
Wasn't SOPA and CISPA introduced by republicans? Guess you can't really trust anyone though
Bentley Brooks
Don't know, don't care. Worrying about some arbitrary obsession isn't going to help us right now. Pai is the enemy
Video explains that Government control with NN is unfounded. Shill harder fucktard.
Aaron Miller
shills want you to be cool with half a gig/month of access to non corporate sites.
they can neck themselves immediately
Jace Mitchell
Republicans introduce something, democrats fuck with it and help corps and recieves bribes. republicans look bad. Whats new.
Michael Bell
Typically, it's a good move to step back and think about everything you're fighting for when your ideological opponents start backing the causes you're fighting for. I'm neutral on this whole thing and willing to back NN, but pointing me in a direction and saying "he bad he enemy hurr hurr" isn't going to do fuck all.
Owen Baker
Id love to see how they deal with millions of people doing cyber atttacks on them all day. Its going to be fucking hilarious.
Luis Clark
copy pasting:
attpublicpolicy .com/consumer-broadband/the-surprising-to-me-narrowness-of-the-d-c-circuits-title-ii-decision/
>According to the concurrence, which was written by Judges Sri Srinivasan and David S. Tatel (the same judges who wrote theunderlying decisionbtw), “the net neutrality rule applies only to ‘those broadband providers who hold themselves out as neutral, indiscriminate conduits’ to any content of a subscriber’s own choosing,” (quoting the underlying decision). The concurrence goes on to say, “the rule does not apply to an ISP holding itself out as providing something other than a neutral, indiscriminate pathway – i.e., an ISP making sufficiently clear that it provides a filtered service involving the ISP’s exercise of editorial discretion.”
>I was surprised by this, though I should not have been since the FCC’s own lawyer implicitly conceded this point during oral argument. And even supporters of Title IInow appear to agreethat the scope of Title II is limited to ISPs not offering a “curated experience.” However, in the past, supporters of Title II often alleged that without reclassification, ISPs would be free to block unpopular opinions or viewpoints that they disagreed with. In the understanding of the D.C. Circuit panel majority, it seems that the Title II order does not touch such practices as long as an ISP clearly discloses its blocking plans to customers
Tyler Wright
its going to be false flagged
(WHAT DOES HE SUPPORT)
hahahahahahaha shit nigger
beg for them to make your decisions for you more
never learn and know morals and wtf happens
Eli Reed
lets get them to blame each other so the americans can be blamed for taking a side or/and making a consiuos decision on this
.gov
.cock
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Robert Ortiz
Fuck off nigger
Gavin Young
>durp durp durp durp
so who is this (((person))) who decides that the service isn't "curated" or "neutral" information as you call it?
and when the fuck did the isps get an editorial power? when they make NOTHING
no knowledge of teh internet
Austin Sanders
You missed a lot. Like the fact that the only reason we are in this predicament is because a D.C. circuit court ruled the FCC did not have the authority to enforce neutrality laws. Which is the reason they were reclassified under Title II. Which is what the vote is about.
Stick to the highway analogy.
Jeremiah Sullivan
>FTC taking over
>Comcast and other ISPs getting fined if they fuck over their customers
I'm down for that.
David Carter
Why is this chart listing "zero-rating" as NN violations? Zero-rating is completely allowed under NN. Wheeler even praised it.
>Throttles speed on unlimited plans
Wireless carriers are allowed to do that under "network management" in NN. They even explicitly say that they might throttle you after using a certain amount of data.
>Verizon blocks FM tuner apps.
What does that even have to do with NN? Verizon doesn't even "block" FM tuners or their apps. The smartphone manufacturers make the final decision on whether to include the chip or not with their phones.
>Verizon said it does not block FM radio, but it does not require its handset suppliers to provide an FM radio chip in their devices. Verizon does sell a few devices with FM radio capability, and "Verizon will continue to support the sale of devices from manufacturers that choose to include an FM chip," the carrier said.
>Nguyen argued that while Verizon doesn't prevent phone makers from providing FM radio chips, "Verizon has compelled handset suppliers to disable FM radio chips."
Seems like you or someone else compiled a big list of (unsourced) net neutrality "violations" with vague and misleading headlines.
Jack Robinson
fuck all you bots im taking my (((tv))) box back up to the stupid godamn (((editorial power))) isps when this shit is fucked up
the internet you know waht it is, if you here to run your fucking mouth its because your a cocksucker, with nothing to say
youtube.com
Luis Long
the ftc will not be allowed to do anytiung to the people who make the money
they already believe the internet is just a bunch of money making points
i wished id saved that dumb image some moron made the other day
Noah Morris
well hmm
>we should undo the shit that regulates that obama put in that rules the ineternet like 1930s utilities
hmm well like this picture
>here
? that seems to be the fucking problem
but what i think ive read is that they dont want the FCC to do it, because the FCC cant do SHIT LIKE THAT, that would be the FTC. and thats exactly what THEY ARE WANTING TO DO
just turn this whole shit thing over to the FTC
Jason Harris
II wasn't pointing you anywhere. I just refuse to go off topic that wasn't going to help the issue.
Keeping on topic, much to Pai displeasure is the magority of the both parties agree to keeping NN in place. It would explain why Pai is lying his ass off right now to spur the left and right to fight with each other.
Jayden Bennett
that is propaganda for NN shills making an extreme dystopic future.
Levi Rivera
Lies, those 3 were introduced by the same people who want to get rid of net neutrality.
It would make the internet more expensive. Additionally, it could be used to censor websites. Comcast blocked Sup Forums about 10 years ago during the BoA DDoS to give you an idea.
Jackson Ward
It isn't that he wants NN or not. He wants a precedent established that places all communications under the regulation of the government. If they can force NN with the barrel of a rifle they can also force any other arbitrary communication rule with the same force.
Note: this has nothing to do with packets. It has everything to do with setting a precedent for government regulation in the market and in private life. It isn't as if the market, when left to its own flux, WOULDN'T provide you with a good data plan of some form at some arbitrary price. Providers have been doing sneaky shit already with government assistance for years -- and yet the lights are on, shit's not on fire and you can still surf jb porn with wild abandon.
Setting new precedents for control and tightening existing precedents for control. That's all this is about. Hint: READ THE ACTUAL PROPOSALS.
Ian Gutierrez
Watch the video, It wasn't saying it was.
Jaxon Richardson
Fuck off back to your van, right winger criminal shill.
David Sanders
yea
\like instead of saying its packets they want some shit like saying
the isps have editorial control...
lke what the fuck do they do?
then bitch and gripe like they usually do on the internet, in forums in chat rooms, on chat boards lkike this, anything everywhere anywhere,
Bentley Bailey
HEY /new/FAGS
REMEMBER WHEN AT&T BLOCKED Sup Forums???
techcrunch.com
Jose Barnes
>REMEMBER WHEN AT&T BLOCKED Sup Forums???
dont worry fellow corporate cock gobbler
comcast promissed they wont fuck us over if we get rid of the rules that keep them from fucking us over
and I for one always trust corporations to do what helps me the most, even when it makes them less money.
YAY FREE MARKETS
Kevin Jenkins
"legal" content
woohoo can't wait to see the definitions of my LEGAL FREE SPEECH andhow it will and can be fucked uover by them faggots
youtube.com
Do you guys SEEE yet what i been ranting on about?
Jonathan James
Anthony Williams
>moron ignires the majority of what the 1996 telecom act did regarding the internet and says it said "le xd internet be free lolol"
Jesus fucking christ. Hate to cite it, but Molymeme did a great video on Net Neutrality years ago and talked about how this shit actually all came to surface. youtu.be
Hudson Green
fuck off fucking faggot
>duh look at this
no you faggot why dont you bring an argument ewe all already looked at that shit your not saying anything new so shut the fuck up
is all i have to say
Kevin Wright
I wish we had 10+ different ISPs to choose from so we didn't have to give much of a shit about NN.
You've got it exactly right about NN, nip.
Justin Wood
Like I said,
>Misleading headlines
I actually found a news article that actually talks about T-mobile throttling story.
>According to the FCC, the problem isn’t the throttling, but the way T-Mobile marketed the plan. Marketing the system as an unlimited data plan was deceptive to customers, and a violation of the 2010 Open Internet transparency rules. "Consumers should not have to guess whether so-called ‘unlimited’ data plans contain key restrictions, like speed constraints, data caps, and other material limitations," said FCC Enforcement Bureau Chief Travis LeBlanc in a statement.
The problem was that T-Mobile never made it clear when they would start throttling their customers after they hit a certain data cap. The FCC didn't give a shit about the throttling itself.
Now T-Mobile and the rest of the wireless carriers make it clear in the "fine print" when they can throttle user's speeds. For T-Mobile it's after 50gb right now.
Did you even read your link? Here's a short summary by the late moot that described what really happened.
>For the past three weeks, Sup Forums has been under a constant DDoS attack. We were able to filter this specific type of attack in a fashion that was more or less transparent to the end user.
>Unfortunately, as an unintended consequence of the method used, some Internet users received errant traffic from one of our network switches. A handful happened to be AT&T customers.
In response, AT&T filtered all traffic to and from our img.Sup Forums.org IPs (which serve Sup Forums & /r9k/) for their entire network, instead of only the affected customers. AT&T did not contact us prior to implementing the block. Here is their statement regarding the matter.
>In the end, this wasn’t a sinister act of censorship, but rather a bit of a mistake and a poorly executed, disproportionate response on AT&T’s part.
Gabriel Murphy
>couldnt understand him because the corporate cock was jammed too far down his throat
two sheckels have been deposited in your account for excellent shilling
Daniel Ortiz
> how many different places to buy my nigger shit
capatalism nobody gibes a goedamn fuck nobody agrees with you moron quit parroting this shit like somebodys actually thinking what you wher ejust sitting there shitting pretending lkike anybody fucking even cares about you go kys
Josiah Hughes
you didnt do nothing but spout some godamn shit on a no real
i dont give a fuck i dont need to tell you or answer anything to you fagot ill kill you
my free speech
your a stupid nigger either way fuck you faggot
Wyatt Wilson
There's one major problem with OPs post: Title II is not net neutrality. Title II is nationalization of all decision making within a business. The only thing left with Title II are some people in the private sector collecting paychecks and taking the blame from customers while government decides how many of their decisions will be made for them.
Liam Gomez
where does this statement
"within a business"
relate to in the sense of a free speech communication tool?
i seen teh picture they claim the internet is abunch of points of saling shit to people. that every point, person on the internet, is just their selling potention and they give a fuck less what you think about it.
.. like going to the store, and walking in to shop but not having the decision what store you go to, then having everybody bitching at you to buy the godamn world
so their so angry at this
they want to cnesor you they want to see, who, you are, what, you are, who you know, what, you know. so they can then try to make all the decisions for your life, for you
and some morons who never think, for themselves, seem to be ok with this shit fuck them.
fuck it. i dont give a fuck they can burn in hell
>LOOK AT THIS FUCKING PIC.JPG
Christian Long
and dont godamn take my image
THEY LIVE
so fucking literally you braindead fucking morons
thats the thign about the internet. its FREE SPEECH. that means everyone has it
learn how to do constitution, bill of rights and then shut the fuck up if you dont. thats why speech is in the bill of rights cause some people are FUCKING MORONS or jews or suck dick
and im not going to take it any other way, and im not going to take a step back in time to no-worldwide communcation unless you dont live in this country
and im not going ot live in this country with a bunch of 3rd party neutral niggers who thinks they should tell people what to think or say.
fuck you dumb asses
Evan Brooks
this is lterally how THEY make up their shit
youtube.com
Daniel Carter
dont worry when they pass their shit theyll do it to save da kids
cause how else can they bust people paying underaged girls who cant work at that age to make vidsd for them for all the buyers on the internet ?
tehyre the ones who "claim" all points on the internet are selling points, the FTC
Christian Edwards
i dont know what these faggot niggers are going ot do when noone cares what they have to sayall these images here are related
Jonathan Thompson
Hi ShareBlue!
Daily reminder that the people supporting NN include the globalists, Jews, megacorps, and George Soros
Joshua Martinez
So? Let them take this one and then get back at them once this shit ends.
Cooper Barnes
i dont see where anybody really says (soros) real position
who asked do you think he really told the truth? why dont you say WHAT hes doing i hate these fucking topics you guys never say any information fuck yo8u and your opinions
Isaac Rogers
>let them do whatever
fuck you nigger ill kill you nigger
like you thinkj your going to be all hidden, we already know who you piaces of shit are, think your going to be protected
walking around with your face stuck in an iphone all day like you cant live without it
Joseph Flores
this shit is all against americans period, man
they hate our free speech
Caleb Thomas
That image was created by net neutrality supporters. It's not an actual package that a company is actually offering, you fucking idiot. Well done for continuing to prove that NNfags are uninformed retards.
Christopher Murphy
Well this is a wonderful piece of propaganda. Yea, let's list the "crimes" of ISPs while ignoring the fact that tech giants 3 times larger than comcast have been engaging in all the practices that NNfags say are evil for the past two decades. Google practically INVENTED the concept of internet fast lanes. But, the ISPs are the greater evil, right? Good goy.
Elijah Watson
The anti net neutrality shills were spazzing out on Sup Forums little while ago, looks like ISP's are pouring alot of money on this.
How likely is it that net neutrality will get dismissed in burgerland? Seems pretty stupid to shoot yourself in the foot like that.
Grayson Scott
godamnit you faggots have said that like for like every since a few days after that image started being posted you've said THAT everytime,
like anbyoyd bleives you
its a fucking european image GOD FUCKING DAMNIT WHATSA YOUR PROBLEM
oh and like it wouldnt be realistic
why dont y ou explaain whats going on, thats why you stay out of these threads against any real debate your here cause yo love to suck cock
explain, like my million questions on here
like
Camden Rodriguez
>before 2015
Didn't exist. Anything related to devices or software has nothing to do with NN.
Anti-trust laws =/= NN. Educate yourself manchild.
Nathaniel Flores
we pretty much are the isps since we get our intenret from through the SERVICE PROVIDERS
we cant be fucked unless the service providers are fucked
they will false flag themselvs and take payouts theyll all pay themselves with teh more money theyll suck out of us for whatevr. i dont see how you make any sense or are asaying anything but just attacking free speech supporters
Jacob Hill
Every tech giant and jew is on your side, but somehow we are always branded the corporate shills? If anyone is the good goy, it's your side.
Google is three times larger than comcast and has been engaging in the very same discriminatory practices on a massive scale NNfags complain comcast has been doing.
Austin Perez
hey shill read this
but dont worry the fcc isnt looking what to do, they want the FTC to take it over look at what the ftc is and how theyre the ones responsible i think for the rating on CDS which they want onoline to then censor YOU with. cause intenret = free speech
who will be censored
Parker Myers
The fact that you think that this is a debate about free speech only demonstrates how uninformed you are about this issue. Read an actual expert's opinion before you make any further posts on this subject please:
telecomsense.com
You fucking retards are the reason I hate democracy.
Adam Wood
Didn't refute my point. Please explain why ISPs should be regulated and Google should not. Hardmode: don't use a scary infographic.
Parker Hughes
think (is about free speech)
uninformed
Read this experts
>if i could find a picture to relate how much i dont give a fuck what i think about what you said.
i already did in my reply
what does it have to dow ith then faggot if its not over free speech? wait let me guess you think the internet are all selling points and you dont want to lose your market value of stupid ass retards by replying to me
Hunter White
becuase i am a website in myself as is. isps your begging the question saying they shouldnt be regulated or that a website should also.
you take a on the fence position tryign to get my sides then you make a debate against one side or the other shit
you didnt state an argument you can suck my dick
Ayden Gonzalez
what the fuck is a position over regulating
Internet Servive Providers
and
WEBSITES
you dont even have any clue how the internet works?
Jack Sullivan
Great article. But don't bother replying, just look at the ID and all their posts in this thread. Its obvious.
Asher Sanchez
you never replied once but now you come bitching
hes not obviuosly replying because he's a shill like i pointed out NEVERMIND THAT right? nigger what else did you do read all my other id posts so you can build an atttack against me
buld some thing and try to talk some shit
shit talking on the intenret you nkow your nothing but a piece of shit and thats
the hallmark of a shill
Nathaniel Thomas
>great article such an expert
go suck eath others dicks
oh wait, hhaha yea thats..
funny
William Turner
you never reply about the
insinuation that this is like they live type shit
you never reply that i was told that this is precisely what they said they want to do with this, to me in the mid-80s the THEY
really smart shold go read that not what the OP put im better than this shit blah blah
GO AND FUCK YOURSELF NIGGER
Aiden Lewis
thats right stay quiet you fucking nigger
you didnt bring up a point like the OP didnt this is a discussion board not 100 niggers bring their gay vids to get hits on from youtube or yoru ads on your ssite .com you faggot
Luis Roberts
you dont know the difference between an isp and google?
isps let YOU on the internet
isps also let GOOGLE on the internet. everybody who runs a website buys their internet through an internet service provider. IM sure google pays an internet service provider too
beucase they give you an IP address
you have an ip google has an ip
why should ISPS be i dont know, held ot the 1st amendment verus
a site that is just one hundred percent speech?
WHO The FUCK
and i have stated my opinion that this IS over free speech it IS if its dealing WITH the internet. because thats what the internet equals free speech communication. if you think otherwise you are a shill
Lucas Ross
and it sint like you have any morals and would ever reply to this its a waste of time saying anything to you, you moralless faggot piece of shit. your only here to try to persuade your supposed market of morons or people who you have controlled by controlling the money supply to control where they work when they work if they work and this and that and everything else. you believe you have "THAT" market and you believe you have a right to it, so now your attempting to take down free speech so you can, do the propoganda you claim you want to attack in the fucking pictures ive posted that show you think that you need to spy on the entire intenret to find non-regulated propoganda, PROVING and YOu yourself saying you want to do nothing but propoganda
not the world wide web of free speech communication
but a they live type shit thing
go suck a dick you faggot who does nothing but parrot shit fuck YOU