Can Trump become Caesar? If we don't transition to Empire, millennials will vote for European-style decline and end America as we know it. The last great hope for Western greatness will be extinguished for good.
If Trump falls in 2020 then it's over. We will fade to being a regional power as China rises to become the vastly more globally important economy and achieve security dominance of Asia.
What are his options for pulling this off? Or is America doomed?
Refresh the Tree of Liberty
How would that happen? An armed revolution doesn't really seem likely.
If you want to go with a historic comparison, Trump is more like Sulla. Which means we're about 30 years away from having a Julius Caesar.
you have to water the tree
I believe the next revolution will come from the internet. The Government is still on slow and outdated equipment. A couple leaks of the wrong things and the whole country is anarchy.
Heh. Glad somone posted this. I've been posting for months how Trump should cross the rubicon and become CAesar.
What kind of leak would do it?
We have evidence of FBI and other parts of the government creating this whole Russia nonsense to undermine the President. No one really cares.
Everyone knows all the politicians are for sale. We know that they're selling out our interests for the benefit of foreigners. Hell, the Democrats are openly campaigning for that.
What could possibly leak that would finally wake people up?
Is it better to live in an irrelevant socialist democratic republic, or a great authoritarian empire?
Summary of your post:
>We must end america as we know it before america as we know it is ended!
No. An emperor is never a good option for anyone but him and 2 or 3 dozen of his closest friends and family. Go actually read a history book plebe.
The only thing you can leak to actually hurt them is thier blood. Ypu know what happens when theres a leak? Some aid with a formerly promising future gets blamed and fed to the FBI and the elite stay in thier walled mansions behind thier private squads of armed guards.
Jesus shut the fuck up. All you faggots think Europe style America would be fucking terrible but it wouldn't be. What the fuck is so bad about wanting to help people. Or better yet, restructure the system so that people aren't so badly fucked over medical bills, taxes, abortion, what have you. Fuck you
I'm pretty sure Romans were better off under the Empire than they would have been had the Republic continued and destroyed itself politically.
Ideally, we transition to a system that entrusts power in one individual or party for long periods, but provides some form of quasi-democratic accountability, perhaps an ability for a non-universal electorate to unseat the leader with a supermajority every so often.
Fuck you. Trump as Caesar? KYS. He will be out of here in 4 years max at this rate.
More taxes. I don't want to pay for that shit.
The internet must be destroyed. On the day that it is, thousands of angry young males will take to the streets and there will be rivers of blood.
*European-style progress
Sorry we aren't backsliding into the racist, sexist, xenophobic 40s-style hellscape you want
Maybe you're blind, but the current system is going to lead us to Euro-style socialism and decline. Your view on taxes is going to get crushed by sjw millennials at the ballot box.
>thinking trump would be comparable to caesar
Come on, man.
>oyvey goyim! Dont ya know helping people is a good thing! Now, lets just start off with say a meager 500,000
>afterall what harm could 1 million refugees actually do to a country?
>dont worry that 75% of them are males age 18 to 40, theyre just sending money home!
>im sure your vast economy could handle a measely 10 million refugees, remember only 2 or 3 percent of them are dangerous, you wouldnt want to be islamaphobic afterall!
>w-w-what? Isreal should take some? Are you seriously being antisemitic right now? Just take in your fair share of 80 million refugees like good civilized and properly guilty goyim and dont ask silly questions!
>I mean just look at how well europe is doing!
Unless the economy collapses sheeple wont give two fucks. Look a europe. As long as GoT is on and they hae jobs, food and housing its all good. Your daughter getting raped and murdered by some hajji isnt a big deal when the SJW death squad can take everything away. Hitler o ly became viable after the economy collapsed. Prior to that NSDAP results were pathetic.
We have to destroy the west in order to save it.
nuke china
take those fucker with you
>wants global presence
>supports trump, an isolationist
the average Sup Forums trumptard
Under the emperors rome suffered a series of devastating civil wars every time an emperor died. Any time they got invaded or raided a general was just as likley to use his army to declare his province independant from rome and begin plotting to take the throne as he was to attempt repelling the invaders.
Thier economy began collapsing because free grain was being distributed which undercut romes formerly main source of wealth, agriculture. Rome began having to fight increasingly pointless conflicts abroad just to keep the welfare flowing.
On top of that "roman" began to lose its meaning because over 2/3rds of thier population werent roman. Furthermore the populace was lulled to sleep with extravagant shows of pagentry and opulence. Key politicians began to be elected based on how good the shows they could put on were.
The emperors didnt prolong romes existence, they oversaw its downfall.
I mean yeah millennials are pretty worthless and want Bernie style free shit.
I think people are over reacting tonight. There are still the midterms. Stop nominating pedos. Moore was shit.
The globalists want to bring in global government that pursues the interests of all people and ultimately subsumes America. The nationalists want America to expand its national power at the expense of others if necessary.
And explain to me how we do that by tarnishing our national reputation by pulling out of agreements and trying to ruin trade agreements with other nations?
when are you gonna learn trump doesn't give a shit about you, he only cares about his shill big bank buisness friends.
It's preposterous that we should allow our manufacturing capacity to leave the country in the name of our "reputation" and respecting existing agreements. The global economy ultimately comes down to who can produce THINGS. Intellectual property is a very shaky foundation for a country in competition with other countries, since it relies on other countries choosing to respect it, something they can change at any time. And the inability to produce our own things means that we lose our sovereignty because we depend on other countries who might be our enemies.
Every country knows that international agreements only last as long as the participants want them to, that's how international affairs has always worked. We have the leverage and our previous Presidents refused to use it. We were getting taken advantage of and it's about time that we change that.
>The emperors didnt prolong romes existence, they oversaw its downfall.
They kept it going for hundreds of years. Yes, they oversaw its downfall, but the question is what would have been otherwise. The Republic might have fallen much sooner.
He has the military behind him. He should do it, and at the end of his life when he has weeded out the corruption and cabal, restore the republic.
Fucking someone just get President Trump to give us the green light already for God's sake we will do it ourselves just START THE FUCKING SHOW ALREADY
The core hypocrisy of tbe original post stands. Empires are too centralized anyways. The entire thing's stability relies on one guy being good at ruling. The moment some general decides he can do better or an assassin gets lucky you get a civil war.
We no longer live in a world where a country can have a civil war in private, the distance you can travel is no longer dictated by foot, animal, or wind. A civil war in the USA would be suicide. China, the EU, Russia.... fuck everyone with a bone to pick would swarm the whole mess and divvy up whatever was left.
The entire problem our republic has now is over-centralization. Power is being taken from the masses and increasingly falling into fewer and fewer hands. Proposing we solve the issue by intentionally giving up the rest of our power is literally exactly what (((they))) want. Youd just be accelerating a century long plot to destroy our nation. (((They))) are so slick they have you thinking your fighting them by doing exactly what they want.
And who's going to pay for it? Raise my taxes and the gibs high enough, and I'll resign my job and live off the free shit. more people keep doing that, and soon there's no more production of anything and you become Venezuela.
But you with all your wisdom can see through it
Yeah exactly, you become Venezuela. That's where democracy is leading America.
Caesar was beloved by the people. Do you know what Caesar did? He sided with the Populares (the people) over his fellow Optimates (the nobility and rich people). Caesar was absolutely beloved by the people, the vast majority quickly sided with him and forgot all about Pompey Magnus rather quickly.
How can Trump compare when Trump is all about pro-billionaires and pro-rich people? He gives tax-cuts to his billionaire buddies that will last decades, while the ones for the middle class will expire in 10 years. Trump is also greatly hated and openly mocked in the medias, failing to achieve even the popular vote, while Caesar had the overwhelming support of the people.
There is no connection between the two. Trump is a businessman looking out for himself by giving tax-cuts that save him billions. Caesar risked everything, including his life in enemy territory to expand Rome's power and influence, being selfless all along the way. Trump will go down as a shitty president, that's all. With his only crown achievement "stock market at record high!", something he has no control of.
As much as I'd like it, I don't see much hope for federalism to be restored, and it wouldn't really matter if it did. Look, Alabama of all fucking places just elected a liberal Democrat as their Senator. In 10 years, the entire country will be either already blue or on the cusp of turning. Millennials + minorities are extremely left wing across the entire country. If the GOP becomes competitive again, it's by becoming a left-wing party that's just slightly more reasonable than the Dems.
No. Im just not enough of an idiot to think giving up liberty and freedom to the authority of one guy is a good idea. The people we talk about in the term (((they))) arent just jews. Theyre the aristocratic ruling elite, and it truly doesnt matter who ends up sitting in the chair, theyre still going to be in charge.
The biggest barrier to them consolidating power is individual liberty, and throwing that away is a horrible idea.
I will give up all hope and literally run as a democrat and accelerate the hell out of this fucked up game if Trump doesn't win in 2020. Until then, I'm not going to claim 4D chess but I don't have any idea who is jewing who any more, I didn't really know how to feel about Moore and it didn't seem like Trump really wanted to endorse him, or knew he would lose no matter what. It's a defeat, I won't deny that like the leftists and faggots, and it may have been rigged and probably was (no way all those niggers voted, no possible way), but the Saudis got cleaned up and that is a HUGE deal, all of this pedo and sexual harassment shit is starting to come out and thousands of them are being rolled up all over the place, the wall IS being built, illegals and gangs and ISIS/Mossad/CIA are getting btfo both by Trump ignoring dozens of major false flags and him literally bombing their underground tunnels/base in Afganistan and probably in Syria at the "empty airfield" strike, and on and on. President Trump knows what is going on and honestly he's the only and the last person I trust in all of it. If he's not it then it's accelerationism to the max hardcore.
Well I think your analogy of Trump Becoming Caesar is a terrible representation i think jesus would be a better fit. And Trumps options well he needs to stop wasting time with this stupied space crap and focus more on the Wall and finding ways to take out the NWO or the Illuminati and purge the MIC of all the globalist scumbags. or the country would fall into anarchy and the chaos would topple anything that ties the US globally and could begin a new era of republican government within about 50-100 years if the NWO dosen't decide to loot it of all valuable resources and nuke it to high hell first.
Placing our hopes in the GOP because we dont like democrats is like leaving your baby with a pack of coyotes because your worried about wolves. The GOP doesnt represent us anymore than the democrats do. They talk a good game but once you get past the identity issues like abortion, guns, and the tough talk on traditions they are just as eager to sell us out.
Once they get power their chief motivation is to suck the billionaire globalists dicks and the devil take the rest of us.
Its all just talk, the two parties are mutual tumors in the body of this nation. We dont need a revival, well just end up here in the next 20 years again. We need a goddamned revolution.
If you're just realizing both parties are bad you must be new
Trump defeated the Republican party almost as badly as the Democratic party, and most of the best memes came from when he was eviscerating Jeb! or lil' Marco or any of millions of other people
This is the death throes of a defeated two party system and Trump is simultaneously pulling down the columns of it all like fucking Samson himself and trying to allow a new government to form in place of it. All I can say is, he must have the world's baddest-ass (bad-assest?) security, and I pray for him (and this country...) every day, but he must be protected by something.
Trump needs these disgusting GOP swamp critters for now. But we can't win at the ballot box. Time is not on our side and all of the cultural institutions are lined up against us.
The news media, the entertainment media, the special interests, they all exert more influence on America than any politician does.
And us nationalist patriots have NO chance of regaining control of those institutions without doing something extraordinary. Trump realizes this as much as anyone.
Our system has failed.
Oh man this whole thread smells like arimchsir tactical larpers, bad goatees and fedoras.
Lmao enjoy your slow demise righties
Oh no you are retarded and have no arguments. Sad 4 u
Go back to baby boomer commentary and your discus cuckshed newfag
Praise based emperor trump!
How can you be this full of shit
And then this national sex abuse (and eventually pedo) scandal comes out and implicates literally everyone and the DOJ is forced to treat those companies like the criminal organizations they are, and they find out that they are subversives and deep state agents actively working to sabotage the POTUS, and we revive the spirits of Rockwell and McCarthy and turn this country into a well-oiled machine! Evil people need to be fucking killed, what kind of world is this where we would allow the whole damn world to end because we're too limp-wristed to get together and storm these fucking people's houses and drag them into the streets! This is nonsense!
I don't know. I think this sex misconduct witch hunt is a big mistake. Bare accusations being able to take people down favors Democrats, who have psycho sjw sluts on their side. Well-adjusted conservative women don't falsely accuse people of rape for political gain.
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>How can you be this full of shit
Seriously how is it possible? They're not even all paid to be like this afaik, I meet them irl all the time... idk user it's like bizarro world
Especially when the media smears us as Literally Hitler. If you were a sjw whore, why *wouldn't* you make a false accusation if it meant you would stop LITERALLY HITLER from coming to power.
That's why when democrats are accused people take it seriously. Because it's real. Franken admitted it, Lauer admitted it. Nobody really believed the Moore stuff but they were afraid of being wrong, and nobody believed it about Trump. They believe it about everyone else. The truth will out whether or not the democrats have "sjw psycho sluts" on their side to lie for them
Also pls stop saying "sjw" dude there are too many syllables and only alt-lite facecucks say that word
What is a better name for the particular degenerates that 'sjw' describes? I agree it's a shitty term that makes criticism of them look stupid, but I haven't found a better word.
I typically call them faggots but I also love the word cuck, it describes them and honestly most people in general perfectly
I just don't think it's a winning strategy for us since they control the media. If the sex scandals start backfiring too much on the dems, the media will suddenly lose interest in them and people will stop hearing about them. They're only playing along right now because they think it bolsters the feminist cause and that they can weaponize it against the GOP for the reasons I've stated.
I don't think 'cuck' or 'faggot' works well to describe a woman.
OP is a fucking idiot and so is everyone that agrees with him. Trump is wildly unpopular and America's Golden age is LONG gone. Trump is a symptom of America's decline.
The most evil statement of our time is "We are too civilized to fight." It accepts weakness and seeks to preempt failure by surrendering and hoping for a master who provides a reasonably comfortable cage. Being too civilized to fight does not mean our neighbors carry the same principles.
People like that are like the shrilly laughing cringing cowards who sought to befriend the school bully to avoid his wrath. Such people surrender some part of thier soul to avoid conflict and struggle. They are willing to trade temporary comfort now for permanant subjugation later.
Unfortunately, the most highly-valued trait these days in America is agreeableness. No one cares about being good, just being nice. It's disgusting.
Wow what a hot take. You actually believe this?
The GOP and the Democrats and the media are almost all child rapists with few exceptions, you have to understand this before you look at anything else
It is all coming out now and the GOP is working against Trump just like the Dems and media
Their cause is not feminism... It's a communist global government
The truth is all coming out now and Trump is the only person we can trust in the big game
They will all come down and humanity will win
>and they're not even good at being nice a lot of the time
If it wasn't for Iraq/Afghanistan, Imperialism would be a full-throated political position right now.
"muh empire" is the dumbest brainworm of all, and it's going to push America to do some stupid shit very soon.
This... Sad!
We need a big shakeup fellas! Let's turn the clock back to 1950 and go full on McCarthyism and have a good old fashioned Tree of Liberty quenching! Our young men need a bit of action and there are plenty of bad guys all around us
Hey OP,...
This.
OP, Trump is your last, or at least second to last wild desperation swing at relevancy. Every hard lined despot eventually gets btfo by a smarter, more politically moderate society, and the country gets changed forever. To answer your question, America isnt doomed anymore than it was doomed when white europeans btfo the aboriginals. Just demographic changes, man.
You don’t?
"cunt"? Or just "dumb bitch" or uh... "slag"
It has nothing to do with being nice. Narcissistic vulnerability is a trait in narcissists in which they are immiediatley threatned and fearful of anything that challenges what they believe or hold to be true. Politically correct censorship and thought correction is how they ensure nobody leaves the pre-accepted groupthink and forces people to acknowledge that others ideas carry value and that they are possibly themselves fallible or not fully correct. A narcissist cannot acknowledge themselves as anything but fallible and see literally anything that differs from thier idea of correct as serious as a physical assault on thier person.
More so, its an attack at the very core of thier being.
Caesar would also end America as we know it. Whether he’d be preferable to millennial sicialist decline, I’m honestly not sure at this point. But the Republic would be dead, either way.
The nationalist revolution has already begun. Give it 5 more years.
Well ya most of those people are sociopaths and narcissists, but I mean in general in response to the other user's comment that people aren't even nice any more, much less /good/. It's like a novelty when someone says thanks for holding the door these days, and forget about waving when you let someone in on the road...
>America isnt doomed anymore than it was doomed when white europeans btfo the aboriginals. Just demographic changes, man.
America without a White majority isn't America. The same with Canada. It is a grotesque parody of the former country and will be a failure.
get ready for some socialism bitch
Isaiah 66:15 |
For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
>inb4 America elects it's first octagenarian
Again, just symptoms of how millinials were raised. Children from the 80's and 90's were fed a steady diet of "youre unique" "youre perfect" "you deserve everything" "all challenge is abuse."
Why would they be friendly? You arent even a person. Youre shit. Shit doesnt have feelings or ideas. Shit just smells really bad and gets everywhere.
MYSELF, on the otherhand..... well I have very important places to be and things to do and I cant worry about what a piece of feces feels like.
(You get the idea? You arent even human anymore) you only hold value for so long as you are providing something they cant get on thier own, then you become shit again.
Theres a REASON 30% of millinials exhibit narcissistic tendencies.
You do realize Trump pulling out of wanting to compete in the global renewal energy market left a power vacuum for China to stroll right in, correct?
We need to form a continental private army of leafs and burgers and take this shit back
I don't think that's necessarily true. An authoritarian government that allows economic freedom, freedom of movement, mostly-free expression, encourages religion, supports marriage and the family, returns authority to fathers, and limits immigration would be pretty American.
America is not a system of government, it's a people with a way of life and a system of values.
That's absolutely true, but it also applies to boomers, and the elderly, and virtually everyone except for some decent, smiling people and young kids. I have so much hope for Generation Z, those kids are going to save us all
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Why save our country? By 2050 1 in 3 Americans will be Latino, whites will make up less than 50% of thr country, degeneracy will be even more rampant than it is now. It's not like Canada will be safe either; Canada used to be over 90% white, now it's 71% and will drop even more in the future. Mid and Eastern Europe are honestly the last hope. Reviving the Austro-Hungarian empire is unironically the best thing any of us can hope for.
Stop believing Chinese propaganda you commie moron. All of their green bullshit is nothing but propaganda aimed at gullible western lefties like you. They are expanding their coal-burning capacity at full speed.
As for green technology, if there's money to be had in it, then our companies will produce the tecnology.
>nationalist revolution
>America
>By 2050 1 in 3 Americans will be Latino
Some substantial percent of the Latinos are actually of European descent. They may very well decide to identify as White like the Italians and Irish eventually did.
>expanding their coal-burning capacity at full speed
not on my watch
>Italians aren't white
America is named after an Italian and was discovered by an Italian you absolute mong
Italy also has the highest average IQ of any non-Asian nation so... Stop parroting jewish nonsense dipshit
>2050
>"White" people will be 50% of the population.
>The majority of the other half will be mixed
TRULY, THE END TIMES
Are you literate? I agree with you. I'm just pointing out that they weren't accepted as "White" by the rest of America, and didn't identify with the majority, until after some time.
I wouldnt get too worked up over generation Z. The millinials are so bad its prompted literally every single concievable group to attempt to lay claim to them.
You can find studies loudly proclaiming gen z will be everything from a conservative revival to a communist revolution. Frankly, its muddied the waters enough that the only certain thing anyone can honestly state is that they will be different from millinials.
What that entails remains to be seen. Theres a parable about eggs and baskets that comes to mind. Right now we cant count on a magical generation of youth to spontaneously erupt into goose stepping formations to come save us. We can only count on what we have now, and thats ourselves.
Also, they haven't gone through the university liberal indoctrination camps yet.
>If Trump falls in 2020
He's already failed. Him and the Cuckservatives had 8 years to prepare and entire year to change this country for the better and they pissed it all away infighting, and squabbling like children. They should have had 50 bills read to sign, in place, for day fucking one. They had nothing.
America is going to be Brazil 2.0 and the white race is going to be gutted. Europe will be in ruins by 2080. As soon as we're gone, Christianity can finally die and East Asia will sweep the globe decimating all non-human brown and black scum. This guaranteed future is the only thing keeping me going. I hope I get to watch the East Asians open the first death-camps and herd this planet's genetic trash to their horrific demise.
And, heres the KEY trait which defines gen z. They yearn for security.
There is not a time they can remember when we werent at war. Thier first memories include 9/11, thier formative years were spent watching mom weep while dad wrung his hands over a foreclosure notice in the recession. They grew up last in line for the slowest and most unfairly distributed economic recovery in history.
They seek security above all other traits. This is their vital weakness, because the left is highly adept and promising security free from responsibility.
Yes they are more religious, more adverse to risk, less promiscuous or alchoholic or drug addicted, but these are all just symptoms of thier generational lust for saftey and stability. The promise of which could come just as easily from socialism and state control as much as tradition and individual self determination.
Its literally a coin toss which way they go, and its not going to become apparent for another 10 to 15 years which route they take.
>Can Trump become Caesar?
That's the plan.
Great Crusade soon.
Imperium of Mankind soon.
Dyingn for the God-Emperor soon.
Don't you worry about anything ameribro. It was prophesied that the blanket of Marxism would coat the west, but one man will stand up and point towards the degeneracy and the entire white world will revolt. Unfortunately this same prophecy said the UK will fall long before this, as happening now.
Look up Siener Van Rensburgs prophecies. The man is the reason why the voortrekkers still speak afrikaans. Singlehandedly resisted the entire british empire.
>Careening towards another economic crisis
>"Recovery" was just shitty temp jobs
>Current administration dead set on deregulation and cutting deals with the president's business friends
Unless you can see them wanting more of the same of what's happening right now, they're gonna go left.
These kids are starting off either Nazis or communists, and then there are the normies as always. The Nazis will win, the memes are the funniest and the smartest, and memes influence the culture tremendously
I agree we cant put all eggs in one basket but I am excited to see how they turn out
>The last great hope for Western greatness will be extinguished for good
OP clearly represents what's wrong with America in general and the shitty mentality.
>Muh most powerful country
>Muh only beacon of light
And
>We wuz dominating da world, until muh Trump fell
You've got your head way too far up your own ass.
What are you even talking about.
Also the comparison with Caesar is stupid if not totally ignorant. They have almost nothing in comon whatsoever.
>Muh Emperor
>We wuz romanz n shiet
Amerimutts with a sense of self importance, all the fucking time.
And then wonder why half the world hayes your guts and ignorance
>t. mohammed abdul jabar al tunisi
You're right, France, we should be more humble like you LOL
Fuck off faggot your shit country sucks and has no business telling us how to run our lives you ever-surrendering Luciferian controlled cryptokike
Majority is with him not you