Sup Forums is getting too complacent which is why everything is falling apart

Just look at 2016 and early 2017. We were all over Twitter, subverting the narrative and forming a movement. Today in 2017 we are doing nothing at all. The last thing i can even remember we did that had an impact was "It's okay to be white". I'm going to list out a few problems that i want people to discuss ITT and see if we can come up with a solution.

1. Chasing ghosts: This is not really a 4/pol/ problem but an 8/pol/ problem and Sup Forums becoming complacent is mostly their fault because they are the planners and we are the manpower. Most people here don't know it but 8/pol/ has been wasting time chasing ghosts like "shareblue" or "paid shills" and shit while ignoring leftists that are organizing on twitter, reddit and discord. Our biggest enemy online is not these barely existent shills but the leftist redditors that 8/pol/ has let fester the entirety of 2017 because they've wasted so much time going after shit that doesn't matter. The chans are so much easier for raiding and shit than any of those platforms which is why so many reddit lefties have started using discord along with their subreddits. We could BTFO them if we wanted to.

2. Punching right: Compare how united the alt right was at the start of 2017. Even most alt liters accepted that white people were under attack and we even had marches and shit. Nowadays there is so much infighting the alt right isn't even considered a united bloc anymore but separated between white nationalists and the alt lite. The alt lite never had a problem uniting with the more extreme parts of the alt right but the extremists started to drive them away through purity spiraling with shit like "le based black man" we were literally making memes against our own people. Civic Nationalism was hugely attractive to people outside the alt right and was dragging them into it till these retards started saying it was a bad thing. The more people that support you the better, just look at Atheism.
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3. Ridiculing t_d: /r/The_donald was cringe but honestly wasn't really bringing that many newfags outside /ptg/ and were scared away by the rest of the board's racism. /r/the_donald provided huge manpower for us and now we refuse to even work with them. They were our megaphone into the rest of the internet.

4. Leaving Twitter behind: Somewhere around midsummer 2017 alt right accounts on twitter completely grind to a halt. Now it's full of celebs and resistards spewing bile with no opposition.

5. Abandoning the narrative: We have completely abandoned changing the narrative which has left that job to the GOP boomers who suck at it. Because of this, the media has been writing the narrative the entire year while we just sit around and suck our thumbs.

didn't mean to link that thread lol

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>Delusional virgins thinking they affect anything in the real world

Learn from every defeat and improve.

I think we need a new 8pol, the oldone is run by schizos.

not your personal army

Kys

This isn't Sup Forums, you stupid faggot.

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>2. Punching right: Compare how united the alt right was at the start of 2017. Even most alt liters accepted that white people were under attack and we even had marches and shit. Nowadays there is so much infighting the alt right isn't even considered a united bloc anymore but separated between white nationalists and the alt lite. The alt lite never had a problem uniting with the more extreme parts of the alt right but the extremists started to drive them away through purity spiraling with shit like "le based black man" we were literally making memes against our own people.

This has been the biggest problem by far, there is no point to attacking ourselves beyond being sucked into controlled opposition

well, op, i think its admirable to try to re-weaponize autism, but the mods are shills and any actually actionable thread will likely be deleted. if you think we can do anything though, id love to hear some ideas. change would be nice.

Ridiculing T_D and Punching Right was always a ShareBlue narrative. But being divisive was always Sup Forumss strength and weakness.

But I generally agree.

I think we have a simpler problem honestly. Sup Forums isn't weak, Trump has been.

There has been times where we failed to latch onto things like we should have (recent Seth Rich revelations) But for the most part we got our man and he's being a faggot. That's the problem.

yea keep bumped. no moarphaggeus shills itt.

still though. we didnt even manage to win this round of Shia's capture the flag. we're slacking. hard.

Well, anything rule breaking can always be moved to 8ch. Thats what we did with HWNDU and safety squads.

I know Sup Forums has always been contrarian but it's never been this bad.

Well, its in France for starters. Its bad to steal their national flag.

have you tried accepting that white "people" are inferior and that you'd be better off drinking bleach?

Also yeah. Plenty of things have come out that we have failed to latch onto and spread around the normiesphere.

it doesn't help that half the threads here are shill threads. I think we may need to find a new site.

Barron walks weird and far from trump cuz trump is a pedo

Kys kike, drump is a catalisator to destroy the us even more, you can still suck his dick.

the mods are shills. remember that larp board that was up daily? we probably should find a new site

we floods of Sup Forumsros to fix this place

Stop larping. You idiots are so cringe when you try to be keyboard activists.

*knead

Sup Forums is no better. have you visited it lately? its all "pics you should not share" threads and creep shot threads. and tributes

Are there any nudes of Melanie trump? She's not all that, but I wouldn't mind seeing her cunt.

>running off because its hard
no

Yea I agree w/ you OP. But keep in mind that the winning team always gets complacent. Sup Forums had been the underdog ever since 2011 when it was created. We shilled for Romney in 2012, got btfo, and had to work since then to get Trump to get reelected. And there's no knowing how much effect we even had on the election. Could be 0%. The only way normier wuld hear about Sup Forums was through the_donald.

It'll be hard to get Sup Forums excted unless Trump starts making a concerted effort to build the wall or get immigration reform. Clerly people here don't care for tax reform or infrastructure

>We were all over Twitter, subverting the narrative and forming a movement.

>hurr durr gaise dae thinks we single handedly decided the worlds most important election from our basements? It's true, because I saw a lot of you say the same!

Literally no one gives a shit, Darren. You're wasting your time, trying to think up scenarios where you're the hero, not some failing at life loser.

We need a place where we can organize.

Ba. 2016 events were in the anglosphere. Sad to say but Pol influence is lacking outside the Anglo countries.

the amount of shills on this board doesnt help. we need to move but have plans ready to discuss or the shills will just move with us

Part of it is just a time issue. We had a bunch of people dial back on their involvement after the election, and moreso after the inauguration. I know I did - I was so involved with Trump stuff it was having an impact on the rest of my life, so I had to rebalance.

The other big factor was the Syria airstrike. Dicky Manboobs and his TRSodomites used that as an excuse to fracture the absolute hell out of Sup Forums even though in retrospect it was the obvious best choice, the rebels are no longer being armed, and no neocon wars are being planned in the middle east.

Fuck off OP. Trump is just another lying piece of shit politican who, when not sucking Jew cock, is bullshitting the American people... that is why thing are falling apart for you MAGA morons. As for the Alt Right, the movement is chock to the brim full of degenerates, pagans, plastic faced cam whores and low level, cum skinned, trailer inhabting racists - that is why no one takes the alt right seriously.

Do you stay inside a burning house?

I would just like to point out that Sup Forums had the most strength when we didnt call ourselves alt right
how interesting that OP wants to be called alt right

Part of that is the shareblue shills. They're still here and they are working hard. The Its pretty obvious that they've figured out that the game is a lot easier when we're not full of excited politically minded people because its a presidential election. The plan has likely become to dilute an destroy (cause migratory behavior in regulars) until the board isn't hospitable to the kinds of people who put trump in office.

Thats 1 part massive shill sliding etc
1 part reduced population
1 part faggotry among the remainder.

my favorite thing to do is LARP as a Nazi or Communist, sometimes at the same time. Why do you want to ruin my fun?

Your mom's gonna need a bigger basement.

T_D isn't cucked. The mods are cucked. You make a redpilled post it will get upvoted before its deleted. There's honestly no better place to reach people on the fence and wake up our brothers.

Blaming everything on shareblue and shills is a huge reason that Sup Forums has come complacent. These are not shareblue or paid shills they are leftists from twitter and reddit.

>These are not shareblue or paid shills

perhaps a red pill raid on T_D?

So what are you doing about your China problem then, you fucking bogan? Im sure Australia is ready to sack up and vote in an anti-Chinese politician right?

Actually, I'm not from either. Believe it or not there are other boards on this site that are sick of you retards and come over from time to time to shit on you.

For example, you degenerates tried to pray a pedophile into the Senate. Now I'm here for the fun.

We are discussing Trump in this thread you fucking wanker, not Australia's problems.

Huh, I'd forgotten that was a phrase.

>not some failing at life loser.

Leave that to me. I got mad failing skills.

Right wingers don’t have the killer instinct, user. Unlike Leftists, our goal isn’t to subjugate and destroy, its to have normalcy. This is why after we won the election, we didn’t form right wing death squads or commit open hate crimes in the street. To right wingers a win simply means that leftists aren’t running around unchecked and that there isn’t a power imbalance. Once things settle down (when a republican is elected) we achieved our goal. I for one just want equality so when I get it I don’t see the point in fighting anymore. That’s why I don’t follow anti-SJW channels anymore or post political shit on twitter. Because it’s over. Otherwise you end up looking like a fucking tool like Milo trying to pretend it’s atill 2016 and there’s still a point to rallies and bus tours.
The left almost had everything in place for their coup d’êtas but it was stemmed. That’s good enough for me.

i'd hate to break it to you, kiddo, Sup Forums has split. they're gone, its over. no more memes, no more meme magic. the normies came and ruined it all

Step 1, publicly denounce richard spencer. He's a certified tard LARPing as the "leader". Hes the person the major outlets use to strawman the rest of us. Remove him and we regain our agency, we will nolonger be one cunt with an autistic haircut, but a conglomerate.

people just got tired i think. the meme war was like any other war. once the objective was accomplished, all the soldiers went home. not enough people realized that the fight wasn't over, its never over.

Yeah ok faggot, talk shit and then back peddle when you get called out. Hope the chinks buy up your neighborhood and evict your bogan ass from your home. Fuck your desert Chinese satelite state.

Semi-related question - how could one destroy Tumblr if we had full 2016 Sup Forums forces or 2007 Sup Forums forces?

No, there really are armies of paid shills lurking around here.

>implying Sup Forums is one person
Don't get me wrong. I hate it just as much as anyone when the stormfaggots on here leak out of their containment board.

Also Roy Moore was a pedophile. He was pretty polarizing even on this shithole.

>cause migratory behavior in regulars
Well what else are we supposed to do? Should we stay here when half the posts are shill posts or newfags? We can't have discussions and we can't organize. Is this place really still of use to us?

And boys grow into men who become gods.

its not that hard. we'd need maybe 20 people with good amounts of gore and slight knowledge of popular tags. jews on there have been crying to the 'goyim' for pity for months and its annoying. just spam tags and single people out from time to time

It's never over user

>Sup Forums is serious business
What the fuck I'm reading? I think reddit might be more to your liking.

True. For me Hillary was the biggest thing i wanted gone. The dems can take every position in the government and it won't matter as much to me as Hillary winning and the democrats getting 4 more years in the white house. As long as trump occupies that building i do not fear them passing any threatening legislation.

You know, if you combine Weaponised Autism and Alt Right, you get WAAR or maybe just WAR.

I'm not talking about upsetting them for a bit - I mean leaving the website as a 404 error forever.

>name the jew
>get banned

I dunno. Probably just go back to shitposting honestly. Can't be stopped if all we do is fuck around.

Is probably the most honest and correct person right now.

Lets get back to fucking off.

>Part of that is the shareblue shills. They're still here and they are working hard. The Its pretty obvious that they've figured out that the game is a lot easier when we're not full of excited politically minded people because its a presidential election. The plan has likely become to dilute an destroy (cause migratory behavior in regulars) until the board isn't hospitable to the kinds of people who put trump in office.
this 1000%.
the left is better at playing the long game than the right is. after they got done licking their wounds they set their sites on Sup Forums. with our numbers diminished after the election they changed their tactics from influence and subversion to simply destructive ends. they have been pumping this board full of trivial bullshit in an attempt to create a toxic atmosphere. the ultimate goal is simply to fracture the community. they know we will just regroup elsewhere, but for now scattering us is enough.
we can't underestimate our influence in politics. call us whatever you want but demographically we are young arm of the republican party. we are the ground game now since the traditional republican ground game is controlled by the neocons (fucking evangelicals). we dropped the ball on this one.

tumblr has grown past small servers with constant errors. yahoo bought it so itd be difficult to nuke

I'm sure paid shills exist but they aren't wasting their time here. Leftist redditors probably outnumber them anyways.

This thing is FAR from over. Getting complacent now is going to bring The Left back with a show of force that makes Obama's SJW era look like a Christian church sermon by comparison. Things are going to get A LOT worse before they get better- I suggest you get ready.

I'm bored of politics now. I want to dismantle Mockingbird.

I think we've won as much as is possible to win. Without the money that leftist institutions have, Sup Forums can't do much to sway public opinion.
I'm at a university right now and everyone in every corner (except the school of engineering) is so butthurt about Trump that they talk about it every day and even claim to be scared. Even though Trump isn't doing squat, at least the leftists have a constant reminder in the white house that people who don't fall for leftist propaganda still exist.
I think the next step is to be more open about your political stance in real life.

this attitude right here will be the death of western civilization.
I understand completely user because i feel the same, but liberals are plying the demographics. we are playing a fair game while the dems seek to load the dice. we have to deliver a decisive blow to leftism now before we are too few in number to do so.

We need to be on the OFFENSIVE, not Defensive. If we need to actively push for change or this country is fucked for the rest of eternity starting as soon as the upcoming Midterms, or, at best, as late as the 2020 Presidential elections.

Deflecting Left Wing legislation isnt enough, we need to pass Right Wing legislation, especially when it comes to immigration.

>being this melodramatic
Sup Forums has been getting "raided" since a.richards

organise what? good ideas usually come from one person, talent is usually one person, just get shit done then bring it to Sup Forums after the fact, when its too late to sabotage

Concurred.

pic related.

just how autistic /is/ T_D?

There is no such thing as equality. This is far from over. What is actually going to happen is all those dipshit Democrats we just defeated last year are going to get thrown out for not being radical enough, and get replaced with the next generation of nuts. This is only going to fuel the polarization. Neither side has defeated the other based on ideas, the left in particular is fighting through routes other than attacking us head on ideologically. If you can't defeat someone with debate, the next best thing is false accusations, hate speech laws, and increasing political violence. Just delegitimize the opponents speech rather than address our arguments.
This fight isn't over, it has hardly even begun. You think that these leftist groups are disbanding, or even getting smaller? They are recruiting, that socialist contingent that pushed for jew Bernie is only getting larger. Radicals have always set the agenda, on both sides.

>be far-right
>hate everyone that is not from my race, culture, religion, etc. to the point were you want them genocided
>want women to become merely maids and breeders
>on top of that, expecting to win elections

SAD!

Too autistic for Sup Forums. Just look at this thread.

>i know this feel
im a unibro too, so i understand what its like to hear their vitriol every single day. but we cant let ourselves feel defeated. as i mentioned earlier in this thread we, whatever we are, are the republicans ground game. traditional media is a rigged system we cant hope to compete in, but nothing can match the virility of Sup Forums. memes and propaganda are basically the same thing and we are damn good at what we do

well said OP. I support the idealogu of the movement, howeve the Alt-Right at the moment are made up of a bunch of idealogical LARPers that don’t understand politics and they’ve done more damage to the movement than leftists could ever do

>Unlike Leftists, our goal isn’t to subjugate and destroy, its to have normalcy.
This. Just live with some hope that (((progress))) has been delayed.

We can be stopped if are flooded by bots and the mods do nothing. What we need is a new community where the mods are on our side.

sure is a lot of straw man and ad hominim in that argument. funny the dems had strum up fake rape allegations and drag this entire election through the mud just to squeek out a single win. dems cant compete on policy and they know it

I found it quite witty and wry. The best kind right.

Stop being beta faggots, ffs...

Not a personal army, but certainly a white man's army.

I'm excited as fuck about tax reform

but I'm surely in a minority, you know, paying taxes. unlike most of these NEET faggot fucks.

LOL you guys dont get it yet do you? Trump was a honeypot to get ignorant racists like yourselves flagged in the system. Good luck finding a job in the NWO, morans.

Pre-election Sup Forums would have ripped Jones to shreds. We didn’t even touch him. We didn’t dig into the guy at all.

The left knew after Hilary that you always play offense, never defense. The tape comes out on Trump and instead of going on an apology tour, Trump brings Bill Clinton’s accusers to the debate.

The Alt-Lite got baited and fell hook line and sinker. The Gloria Allred yearbook forgery was honestly genius and reeks of Soros and Bezos.All over Sup Forums and twitter we called out the yearbook forgery and touted that as a victory. We should have been fucking drilling Jones. Not celebrating a minor successful defensive play.

This board is not acting like itself. Shills are partially to blame but honestly we have just gotten lazy.

The reason behind this is because lots of people have dropped support for (((Trump))) after hes revealed how fucking retarded he is

This. When you have homos like spencer and that scottish knob gobbler presenting as the face of an exciting new movement alongside dickheads like that swedish bodybuilder dude who endlessly shitposts about 'muh ancestors' and 'muh based comic book gods' like Odin and Thor, you know you have a political movement that is best kept to the deepest recesses of the internet. If whites want to find a champion they'll need to do better than the Alt Right retards...

>morans
kek

>The Gloria Allred yearbook forgery was honestly genius and reeks of Soros and Bezos.


The stupid... it burns.

God bless, user.

Don't forget that the board is very international, and that Trump's election actually impacted world history unlike this Alabama Senate seat.
Loads of hype came from the international crowd which this time has remained absent.

>The reason behind this is because lots of people have dropped support for (((Trump))) after hes revealed how fucking retarded he is


And this:
>This. When you have homos like spencer and that scottish knob gobbler presenting as the face of an exciting new movement alongside dickheads like that swedish bodybuilder dude who endlessly shitposts about 'muh ancestors' and 'muh based comic book gods' like Odin and Thor, you know you have a political movement that is best kept to the deepest recesses of the internet. If whites want to find a champion they'll need to do better than the Alt Right retards...

Well one thing i hope about the media's newfound love for hyping up minor elections is that it causes Republicans to start turning out after feeling the sting of defeat. One reason the dems got complacent after 08 was because they had no idea they were hemorrhaging seats or that there were elections going on at all. The media hyping up elections as if they were presidential could cause a similar turnout boost that the losing side in a presidential election gets.