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prev thread now that we realized the problem of (((tradThots)))), why doesnt anyone here talk about the problem of rampant premarital sex (both male and female, yes male fornication is a problem, your cummies arent important)?

BTW just 70 years ago, virginity until marriage was still the norm (for females AND FOR MALES), fornication was only for nogs.

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Nogs should have been extinct due to natural selection. Nogs are literally descendants of the proto humans.

>70 years ago virginity until marriage was still the norm

Yea and 1000 years ago marrying 10 year olds was also norm

>don't let your dreams of virgin-waifu prevent you from finding a good woman

To be honest, dying a virgin would be preferable to marrying a non-virgin. I say that personally, but also from a societal perspective. The research done on the topic has found that genetics plays a part in promiscuity, and that having children with promiscuous women is actually dysgenic from the perspective of creating a moral society.

>kayaking
Not even close to crew. Kayaking is a pleasure sport a fun family experience which one can also do on the Charles. Crew turns boys into /fit/ men.

We have crew here. Swimming builds up upper body strength too, especially butterfly and freestyle. Also, what is lifting for?

ethikapolitika.org/2014/04/14/celibacy-sexual-capitalism/

Marrying someone without having sex first is like being a grocery store owner who orders a huge shipment of meat that has never been tested and you've no clue if it's good. It simply makes sense to live together first, and have plenty of sex, so you really know each other intimately before you take the step of marriage.

>lifting
Lifting is an indoor activity we are talking outdoor activity.
>Swimming
Swimming can be done indoor if you are talking purely about the upper body and self-strengthening end.
Still it does not compare to crew.
>But we have crew here
And we have the best river in the country here.
hocr.org/the-regatta/
What is more is that the sort of culture forget it's politics for one moment of California is plain immoral and wasteful. There is no respect for the old in California everyone must have the newest everything. Utterly vapid and shallow. Here those with wealth(while sharing similar nonsensically horrid politics) do not mind you act so haphazardly with what they have. For being a spendthrift is not a virtue.
Of further importance is schooling for children of which private school I believe is a necessity(having gone through the some of the best public schools in the country myself and having found them insufficient). That requires either extravagant wealth or fiscal prudence. I am of the opinion that it is my duty as a man to aim for the former however my moral obligation to uphold the latter. California can only provide the former yet is a culture that frowns upon that most important latter.

I'm going to homeschool my kids. I was homeschooled myself and went to an online high school.

My issue with homeschooling is not necessarily it's effect in terms of intellectual maturity of the children of which I believe it can be through prudent parental care truly exemplar. Or for that matter merely teaching the child to be wise enough to seek knowledge as I myself did outside of class(as I learned nothing in honors class which bored me to no end).
That being said it is the social aspect in particular for the shy and introverted child for which home-schooling worries me.

>virginity until marriage was still the norm (for females AND FOR MALES)
For females yes, males would often fuck whores if they could.

Rereading this I suppose clarifications are in order, my issue is mainly that homeschool may stunt social maturity in a child which is vital for development.

I went to online high school so we had different clubs. I was on MUN, sports club, fashion club, book club, and swim team. I also worked as a lifeguard and I have a snapchat to keep in touch with friends. Also my family is religious so we would go to our temple on Sundays.

What is the /hymen/ view on the statement “Hymens are not a vaginal freshness seal. Hymens can regrow if damaged, sexual penetration is not the only way to damage a hymen, and everybody has different sensitivities that can influence whether or not the hymen is torn and whether or not it grows back after a time”?

>stunt social maturity in a child

Do you feel that modern school environments have a positive effect on children?

Anyhow, most homeschooling families belong to regional organizations that provide for extracurricular activities (e.g. field trips, etc).

I personally don't plan on marrying anyone but a virgin but making it mandatory is autistic at this point. The world is far too fucked to go back to the days of virginity idolization.

It is to be considered in context - if the woman does not, for example, display anti-social tendencies (strictly defined - no tattoos, no alcohol consumption, no smoking, no swearing, no criminal activity, etc). Then again, there is one often overlooked feature arising from the immigration of Muslim doctors...

>tradThots

Any ideology that resorts to making up their own baby-talk words generally is championed by simpletons and has nothing to offer. Not sure what this nonsense is but until you can speak English to make your point, you won't get adults to listen to it.

>falling for the glittery jew
fancy rings with bigass stones weren't a thing until diamond mine owners artificially limited the market and ran nonstop ads about how a good man drops a month+ of pay on a fucking ring.

The issue is that I do not believe you can defend a child from all the ills of the world indefinitely particularly not once they get computer access. As such it is the duty of a parent to mentally nurture and prepare their child as to how to handle and deal the real world.
I worry as to the inability to do face to face interaction.
>Snapchat
I find most social media to be some form of degenerate nonsense with massive social pressures to merely whore ones soul. It is bad for boys in that it coerces them into a chad mentality and it horrid for girls in that it helps pressure them into being stacy's. I accept the inevitability of most kids being unlike I was and am(no social media presence) but there are certain ones that cross the line. Snapchat wherein one cannot hold a functional conversation and merely sends stupid pictures of oneself to vaguely amuse their friends is frankly speaking shallow and vapid. Still I would not be against homeschooling if a good private school that does not meet a basic standard: high results, focus on traditional education pertaining to western civilization and it's classics and it's thought, high level stem learning and none of the Social Justice bullshit. I am aware it is a rather high standard in the modern age but considering the career path I am beginning to move toward(though nothing is finalized and I am still young heading out to college) I suppose I can live just about anywhere.

>fancy rings with bigass stones

For the record, I think the "diamond" part is metaphorical (referring to marriage).

>wants to spread his way of life
>doesnt want to reproduce offspring to help spread it

>The issue is that I do not believe you can defend a child from all the ills of the world indefinitely particularly not once they get computer access. As such it is the duty of a parent to mentally nurture and prepare their child as to how to handle and deal the real world.

Right, but I think having a firm foundation somewhat outside the world is quite useful - an outside-looking-in, stranger-in-a-strange-land approach. I think it needs to be impressed upon children that the world is an insane, positivist, sociopathic hellscape most of the time. To each their own on this topic, though.

Snapchat is still less degenerate because you have to add people on it and you can change the privacy settings to make your account only visible to friends. I only have my close friends on it. You can have conversations on it too as it has a text messaging option. You just have to save the texts onto the messaging board. By far, the worst social media is instagram

>>doesnt want to reproduce offspring to help spread it

Did he actually say that? (Answer: No.)

What he's saying is that he wants to spread his way of life with someone who has also lived it, and is presumably compatible with it. Assortative mating is important, and I suspect the belief that "opposites attract" (amongst other things) has caused immense damage to society.

There is more to marriage than sex. You where (((theyed))) so much that you think sex is essential part of life

I a more the believer that you give them the tools and the morals and the support and allow them to overcome the necessary trial by fire as that builds character.
You have a message board function on snapchat?
Also Instagram is honestly just for food porn and soft-core porn these days.
Nevertheless this is besides the point, what notions do you think are necessary(religious, personal and political) to instill in a child so as to make them decent and honest in today's world?

Counter-point:
From a evolutionary perspective, Women find promiscuous men attractive because said sons of such men would also be promiscuous, leading to a greater chance of passing down one's genes.

From a societal perspective, there's a reason some cultures genealogy is passed down through the mother: Only the mother knows that her children are hers(except in the rarest cases of chimerism), a man can never be 100% sure that any children are from his seed.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone is: an asshole about everything. We all die, stop pretending anything trivial matters unless humans can get off this rock.

>I a more the believer that you give them the tools and the morals and the support and allow them to overcome the necessary trial by fire as that builds character.

I think we sort of agree, but are just expressing it differently. I suppose in my view, the children are being taught the tools and morals mostly outside the world, as that avoids distractions.

How would you know if anyone is a virgin?

Because they told you? If you trust them, fine.
But people like about that all the time.

>opposites attract

Like most things in the vernacular, it's subjective.

I believe compatible couples tend to mostly share similar values, but not necessarily hobbies or interests - which is where I think that phrase comes from. You and your SO could both be adherent Catholics, but one enjoy running and the other enjoy swimming all the while saying opposites attract.

>From a evolutionary perspective, Women find promiscuous men attractive because said sons of such men would also be promiscuous, leading to a greater chance of passing down one's genes.

I think it's important to note that women do not per se find promiscuous men attractive, but rather what allows them to be promiscuous (various factors: physical fitness, height, wealth, intelligence). I suppose we could differentiate between female and male promiscuity, but the overall societal cost is still great even if only one is tacitly approved of. (On a side note: I am a virgin by choice as I believe in its importance, in spite of the fact that women find me attractive.)


>The point I'm trying to make is that everyone is: an asshole about everything. We all die, stop pretending anything trivial matters unless humans can get off this rock.

I don't think virginity is trivial. At a certain level it is a costly signal (in most societies), both because it is considered normative behaviour as well as the pleasure aspect - basically, someone is fighting both the norm (e.g. peer pressure) and their own hedonistic impulses as a demonstration of their dedication to certain principles or moral virtues. Anything that is hard to do is generally seen as valuable by some subset of the population.

Some general tips:

-Social network analysis: assess who she is friends with;
-Genotyping: various behaviours have genetic underpinnings;
-Blood tests: male DNA in system, plus STD/STIs;
-Psychometric evaluation (self-explanatory);
-Highly-correlative attributes of promiscuity: such as tattoos, drinking, smoking, drug-use, swearing;
-IQ test: smarter females typically have fewer lifetime sexual partners;
-Degree major: similar to IQ test, but not as exact a correlation (more of a proxy).

Many others, of course.

Importance of staying a virgin, marrying young, college is dumb and stupid learn a trade instead, major redpills on feminism and life in general, make sure they do lots of sports and know about healthy eating and nutrition.

Both genders should know how to do housework and cook

Religion is very important. My family are brahmins so we are very strict with the rules we follow and the values that were instilled in me are very similar to Catholic values.

Children should have a good grasp on history. I find that APWH and APUSH classes in high School really helped me with this.

>Like most things in the vernacular, it's subjective.

Yes, I realize that the understanding of the phrase varies between persons. I think most people take it to be more profound - e.g. not flavours of ice cream but views on the purpose of human life. One might say that it is psychometric in nature, or perhaps political (the two are of course linked), or perhaps religious (whatever an opposite religion is), or any range of things.

Try 150 years ago

>college is dumb
Depends for what. I want to build a startup(have a quite a few ideas currently but need to think them through practically and get the skills needed to put them into practice) as such I am transfering to one of the best technicial institutes in the world in the second semester.
>Stay a virgin
Important sure but what is more important is teaching them the underlying reasons why, if they cannot justify it to themselves particularly if the are not humble enough or to intelligent for their own good they may be tempted to break with their parents. I come to this from the perspective of someone who came to the position of being against having premarital sex by my own mind and not through the allowance or even support of my parents.
>Learn a trade
Depends on their IQ quartile desu, at my IQ it feels like a waste to be a plumber(honorable profession it though it may be).
>Feminism is bullshit
Yeah no arguements there.
>Do sports and the like
Was never much of a sporty child myself though I've gotten into it so to say slightly in the past two or so years.
>Healthy eating
I think that eating with ones family and homecooking is more important. Healthy eating should be implicit what is important is that well....
Let me give an example from my own family, back in my childhood dad worked(and still works) a high intensity job we are talking over 100 hours a week. He always made it a point for religious reasons in part but also because of his values to come home for friday night dinner.
>Housework
Agreed but less of a value
>Cook
I'm a shit cook but at least the basics, that said that is not a value.
>Brahmins
>Catholic
Wait what? Is that a catholic thing?
>Good grasp of history
>APWH
>APUSH
kek while I agree history is important I find that amusing as someone who took those AP exams(and Euro) without having taken the classes.
I think your missing the importance of the classics in the western canon and it's corollary of being well read and literate.

Sports are important for both boys and girls. It keep them from straying. An empty mind is the devils workshop.

Healthy eating comes hand in had with sports. I count calories and eat a high protein diet.

Brahminical values have similarities with the teachings of Jesus. We are taught to be humble and respectful to every person because we are all children of God so I have read about other religions too. For example as brahmins, we don't eat meat. take intoxicants, gamble, or engage in premarital sex.

>Sports are important for both boys and girls. It keep them from straying. An empty mind is the devils workshop.
I agree though it is not enough. As someone who was in the boys teams in high school for various sports it can turn into a sort of degenerate lads club. It quite offended my prudish sense to be honest when it turned into a sort of "Chad" stereotype. Nevertheless I see the importance of it.
>Healthy eating
Missing the point, I think that is a given when one lives of mostly home cooking. That is less so to do with ones value system.
>Brahmins
>Intoxicants
>Gamble
>Premarital sex
Agree on all of these.
>Meat
I do not see the case for this desu and cannot see myself abandoning meat considering its importance both in nutrition but also in religion in that my forefathers gave sacrifices to the that God of their forefathers whom I still worship.
>We are taught to be humble and respectful to every person because we are all children of God
So I take it that you are not a white nationalist?
Also that reminds me of what my great great grandfather would do. In each pocket he held the most important notions to him for which he would draw upon whenever he felt temptation to stray.
In his left 1) For I am but dust and ashes in the arms of the Lord
In his right 2) The whole world he(God) spoketh forth for thyne sake.

Nevertheless this misses the crux of what I am getting at which I'll admit the Brahmin bit more addresses then anything else which is values both of the material and immaterial and the personal and interpersonal nature.

I'm vegetarian because I want to stay true to my caste. I get my protein from plant sources and protein shakes.

I am a white nationalist. Although we are all God's children, God did not create us equally. Vedic documents do suggest race realism. Aryans are considered the highest human species and there are other, lower species of humans. In Vedic stories, demons are described as having dark skin and ugly features while god like personalities have fair skin and sharp, thin features. I also hate muslims because they are barbaric and jews because I'm a huge fan of hitler.

>Hindusim
>With christianity
>Castes
>With christanity
>Vedics
>With Christianity
Cordial paganism is sin.
>High and low races as ordained by the Almighty
....
We are all made in his image femanon and thus all have the love of the divine. To not wish to associate is one thing, to claim superiority is tribal nonsense.
If you are making a racial arguement then may I remind that Jesus himself was a semite and I'm not sure how you can reconcile that with some version of Aryan supremacy particularly as the Aryans were utterly barbaric when compared to the Romans and Greeks in the Material and all men before Christ were as such when compared to the Jews and their system. At least if you believe in the notion that Christianity as a moral system is superior.
Also on the Hitler bit ignoring the obsession with the occult the at times utterly paranoid outbursts which one can read in Hitler's Table Talk(the notes from his secretary as to his conversations).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler's_Table_Talk
That aside his moral contempt for the slavs and the Jews has discredited the cause of anticommunism by merit of his utter depravity in conduct and erroneous belief in Aryan supremacy.

Statistically, whites and asians have higher IQ and look like humans. pic related

>do you feel that modern school environments have positive effect on children?

it totally depends on where the school is located, who the teachers are, and the socioeconomic status of the school population. Parenting also plays a huge role in this.

Depends on the subgroups of whites vs subgroups of blacks and subgroups of asains. Nor has any genetic reason for this been proven it is merely at this point correlation that can be disproven with other correlation(the example of the Igbo in Nigeria come to mind),
Mind you that at the top of the IQ heirarchy is consistently the Ashkenazhi Jew to whom all manner of nonesense is thrown about as to them not truly having the higher IQ when in fact they do indeed.
As for well they look like x that is not based of any data merely you picking two separate pictures of two different woman from two different background with no control variable save that one is north indian and the other is south.
Nor does this address the issue of Hinduism being incompatible with Christianity. Or the fact that Christ was born a Jewish Semite. Nor that the higher IQ of aryans is a recent phenomon historically speaking.

this is retarded
hymens are broken for many reasons, not just intercourse

and you can even have surgery to repair a hymen, so whether it 's there or not, it doesnt show shit abut the girls actual personal history

To be fair, christianity is considered inferior amongst hindus because christians do not believe in animals having souls and reincarnation.

gas the jews and niggers, problem solved

North Indians and South Indians are both Indians so the comparison is valid

the higher IQ of aryans has always been known. They are the ones who built civilization as we know it.

>Christianity is inferior to hinduism
So you admit the part of the pagan.
>Gas the Jews and the Niggers
so you believe their souls to be worth less then ashes?
India is also a massive continent culturally historically and politically the notion of "India" is a relatively modern concept further that does not change the fact that you selectively chose two different women.
Further:
>The higher IQ of aryans has always been known
Citation needed because as far as I remember the Greeks knew the Germans to be imbeciles yet free whereas the Asians to be intelligent yet servile.
Nor does this change the fact of the Askhenazi Jew having a higher IQ then any other ethnic or religious subgroup in the United States of America including "aryans" and similarly higher IQ then the average German in Germany.
The german likewise of the 17th century was the greek of today, a lost man with no direction. A spendthrift and a wastrel of minor intellect. Scandinavia likewise before Christianity was utterly barbaric and only became a beacon for civilization trully in the 17th 18th and 19th centuries.

well if someone is degrading your society you must remove them. If they choose to leave willingly, that's great. Otherwise they go straight to the oven.

I pointed out north and South Indians because North Indians are into-aryan and South Indians are dravidians. Dravidians are lower class than Indo-aryans.

Related:
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886916303099?via=ihub
As to the modern scenario.

>well if someone is degrading your society you must remove them. If they choose to leave willingly, that's great. Otherwise they go straight to the oven.
No you don't what a horrid view of it all. Should we thus degrade and murder the stupid for being as such and further the notion that their are not high performing and low performing groups of different races. Again you present here little data the idea of levels of Aryanism or some other such dribble is at best psuedo-scientific nonsense.
The romans and the greeks were far more intelligent then their barbaric germanic neighbors. Your just spouting ideology and nonsensical one at that.