How come millennial women don't want to have children?

How come millennial women don't want to have children?

Do they value work over family that much?

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Uh, probably because kids are a fuckhuge money and time sink. Is it that hard to understand?

not an argument
your great-grandparents raised broods during the worst economic crisis your country has ever faced

Our previous generations were retarded and believed in God and stupid shit like that.

Go to Sup Forums

"The causes for declining births among Germans are twofold: internal, non-
material; and external, material. The internal, non-material causes are traceable
to the mental attitude of the past. This state of mind placed the individual at the
center of its thinking and disassociated him from the community. It gave him the
right to shape his life with absolute freedom, according to the dictates of
"reason." With most men, however, reason does not go much beyond comfort.
Now, according to the views of this period freedom and comfort would be greatly
jeopardized by offspring. Therefore, people gave up the idea of having children
or limited their number. This superficial and irresponsible attitude of mind was
most pronounced in the larger cities where at first a two-child system came into
fashion, and was finally transformed into a no child system. The automobile or a
lap dog requiring little work took the place of a child.

That these non-material reasons were more important than economic causes is
evident from the fact that the smallest number of children were to be found right
in the well to do circles. Nevertheless, economic considerations also may have
contributed their share to the decline of births. The opinion was still widespread
that overpopulation increased unemployment and limited the well-being of the
individual. The situation is exactly the reverse fundamentally, as a moment's
reflection shows. A large number of children consume much more than a smaller
number. It gives all callings more work and bread for that reason. The production
of goods rises, and with it the well being also. To be sure, the economic benefit
of a goodly supply of children works at first solely to the advantage of the entire
community. The individual who did not regard himself as being responsible to the
community, would not would not be influenced by such a consideration."

Just like for any business, when the economy is perma-shaky (i.e. globalized), the first expendable cost is human resources.

I can't blame the millennials in this instance.
Cats and dogs are a relatively cheap alternative. Home prices are ridiculous (where the jobs are), and rent prices as well.

My software engineering job can and will eventually be replaced by a 6 pajeets and/or a machine-learned set of evolving algorithms.

This uncertainty makes me hesitant to bring children into this world, especially given that I may be paying child support for a decade if/when my partner decides to leave me.

My saving grace is that I am debt-free at the moment and don't have any expensive vices.

as femanon: absolutely.

kids are cute and all, but fuck having a significant other or raising a family! hahahahahahahaha

who wants to deal with that shit when i can work normal hours without fucking myself over, play video games all the time, spend my money on whatever i like and do whatever the hell else i want in my free time

besides I can just spoil my inlaws kids on the holidays with pokemon shit and that's all the child interaction i'll ever need

the single life is the best life

So you are even worse than retards and believers. Check

Why don’t millennials get polio anymore? Don’t they value the character-building that comes from being crippled?

Are you the same autist who keeps posting pictures of this girl?

Can someone give me a QUICK rundown on who is this overwatch larper semen demon?

Who fucking cares? They’re dead now. Nobody has an obligation to have children.

Just because they don't want to have YOUR children doesn't mean they don't want to have children.

Kys you stupid fucking cunt

>why would I create lifetime familial bonds while putting in effort to raise the best children I can when I can sell my time to jews for a handful of dollars an hour?

why do they even want to work? it fucking sucks. i'd give anything to be a home maker.

You guys are right, truly we are the apex of enlightened euphoric humans

Brb gonna go jack off to some more simulated sex before heading to my job where I make robots do jobs so other people can't and call it progress

Children = responsibility

Having children would take away from time they could devote to such activities as: staring at iPhone, trading in iPhone for newest iPhone model, charging iPhone, figuring out how to connect iPhone to their leased Nissan Rogue via bluetooth, figuring out how to download Faceberg app to their iPhone, buying a plastic case on Amazon to protect the screen of their iPhone...

Kids still weren't that expensive compared to now.

You need at least one parent making over 100k a year or be a minority and collect government hand outs to have children.

I make only 30k and I'm white so I'll never be able to afford children.

Aw, why would I do that when I'm enjoying my life so much? :)

> implying i don't already have lifetime familial bonds

it's called having parents and siblings that love you, user. I guess you wouldn't understand if daddy beat you, though

>Brb gonna go jack off to some more simulated sex before heading to my job

Ok have fun

It's because millennials aren't mature enough.

>woman who doesn't want kids expects others to believe she isn't the abuse victim
Show me on the doll.

They just can’t understand, my friend. They will slowly rot as hatred consumes them :)

Yes because in western societys since your a kid your bash with growing up and having a career, they do not teach girls to be mothers thanks to feminism.

We're becoming like japan. People wanting to fuck less. And fap more

and look how well that's worked out for them

Also both of my parents make over 50k a year, only had one child (me) and we were poor as fuck. My dad would always bitch about how child support is making him live paycheck to paycheck. I had to go to a shitty public school in Chicongo and heard gunshots at night.

Proof right here

Kekarino. This user has a point. Can't hate religious people too much if they're the only ones that can accomplish anything.

I don't see it too much.

I'm 23 and most girls I went to high school with have kids. Usually irresponsibly because most of the parents aren't together or the kid is literally raised by their grand parents. A lot of women on my campus probably plan on having children eventually but there are some that are getting stem degrees that just want to get rich. I wouldn't even consider having a kid until I get my degree, a job that pays well, and a worthy wife.

A lot of millennials are selfish little losers so its kind of a good thing that you think they aren't breeding.

Too bad you didnt live in a better state in the midwest. 100k between both parents would of gotten you guys alot further with a much bigger house making that much.

That’s a weird way of saying they just don’t want children. Why. Is. That. So fucking hard for you to understand? Nobody has an obligation to have kids. None. Your “preservation of da white race” viewpoint is what’s immature.

This mindset right here is exactly what is wrong with millenials.

>divorced 38yr old guy who may go childless.
>was married for 6yrs and had an amicable split.
>No kids, paid nothing for the break.
>Still on good terms with ex, actually.
>She had a drinking problem that made it easy to leave, with little to no blame/guilt.
>I make 130k/yr.
>live in a great city (so-cal)
>have high-earner low-maintenance girlfriend.
>have dog
>I get to travel
>$200k in savings, $400k in 401k.
>rent a $2500k month high rise condo.


I have a bunch of male and female friends who are kind of in the same boat and don't mind it that much. I think part of it is that our parents have learned to accept that we're relatively happy like this, and a kid would just be icing on the cake. My parents have several grandkids already. I don't know, I can't blame millennials who are far worse off than me, for not irresponsibly having kids at age 22 and getting divorced by 25. Marriage is a strange contract that should'n't have government involvement imho.

Hey at least it's not a huge timesink right?

I mean it may take a lot of my time but at least it gives me all this stuff our ancestors never had

Hahahaha look at all this stuff I own that I wouldn't have if I had kids

This stuff makes me wayyy more happy

And it always will, I only buy new stuff cause I want to, not cause I'm quickly getting sick of things faster and faster

This is sustainable, I'll never regret this choice. I've been alive for over 23 years I think I can safely say what I will/won't regret 20 more years from now

I just think about how tiring it would be to have kids, I mean I'm a busy guy ya know? I got all these things I'm having so much fun with, they never get old cause I'll just get more, it never feels bad if I just keep consuming

Hmm this porns not really doing it for me anymore, I'll just get even more

I'm seeing a lot of this. None of my peers can understand why I want to get my life in order and start a family.
They always want me to come back and play video games with them but I don't have the time anymore. Then they go on about politics like they know jack shit when they don't really have a life of their own outside of their smartphones. Even in the bars, all you see is people on their phone. Barely any young people talking. The only people I can have smooth conversation with is older people.

Where did the maturity go? We've only got so many fertile years for this shit.

24/7 Jew media brainwashing propaganda.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, identity-less, subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and to discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the past and present in that effort.

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Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
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Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
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>crazy girl power millennial thots will be bred out of the gene pool
...and that's a good thing
Catering to useless women who won't even do the one job they had in life, that's a fuckhuge money and time sink.

Wait, wait, wait, I thought we were supposed to deny sexual abuse being a thing that happens on this board? Or is that only when it concerns Republican politicians?

Honestly I'm way more concerned for any potential rugrats these kinds of psychos pop out. Yikes.

Like, I'm a materialistic bitch and I love having me all my own money and goods for myself, so I ain't having no kids coz I know I'd be a bad mother anyway. Of course I'm not gonna subject some poor helpless baby to my shitty ass lol, that's just basic decency

These guys on the other hand just want to arbitrarily increase the population count. There's some guaranteed future child abusers in this thread for sure

Let's look at the narrative being forced fed to young women who don't have parents willing to, well, parent:
>Yes goyette, join the rat race in high school to get good grades so you can go to college. Women are just as capable as men and should be just as much of the work force. How empowering!! Susie, you have all the makings of a great attorney! Susie then goes to university for 4 years. Susie is 21. Susie then goes to law school for 3 years. Susie is 24, starting out as a first year associate. Susie has to often work 60 hour weeks to stay competitive and on partner track. Susie is 28 before she's had a chance to come up for air socially, let alone begin dating. Susie is a fourth year associate, still 3 more grueling years to partner. Even if Susie has found some time to date, even if Susie got extremely lucky and found a man worth marrying early on in the process, Susie does not have time to birth a child and stay on partner track. Susie puts off having a child, making partner at 32 or so. Now she's a first year partner, with the extra work that entails. No time now either.

You get the point. Women were sold the bag of goods that they could do everything a man could do, and still be a woman. They can't, nobody can. Turns out spending 9 months with another human inside of you is limiting. Turns out babies need extremely close care during their first year at least. Who knew? Who knew there was a reason our species spent millennia with defined gender roles that lined up with nature?

Yeah, this. Two things happened: the end of subsistence farming and family businesses, and credentialism. Children are no longer useful labor until they’re the age of majority, and actually well after the age of majority because they can’t get a job worth a damn with high school alone.

Until your a sad old person with no one to care for you and you die alone.

> what are friends, user

BROTHERS AND SISTERS OPTING OUT OF A RAW DEAL
ONE LAST SUNSET

>huge money sink if you want your kid(s) to have a decent living and education nowadays like, you'll need to make over 80k AT THE VERY LEAST to afford them the good stuff.
>giant time sink, the days of them becoming independent once they hit college are long over; hope you have fun keeping them in your house while they're in their 20's
>there is no guarantee your children will turn out the way you want them to; there's always the chance they'll grow up to have different political views, be autistic, gay, phsyically or mentally ill; etc
>pets are an easier substitute than children now for that 'parental love' fix
>people can barely afford decent housing as it is
>the world is going to absolute shit in the next 50-100 years; like mass genocide levels of shit - why would you want to bring children into a dying world like this?
>if you don't believe the above greentext, then research John C. Calhoun's behavioral sink theory and mouse utopia experiments. Yes, we're living the the early stages of the dying phase now, it's all going down, and soon.

>This stuff makes me wayyy more happy

It objectively does, and it’s a shame too many people find out the hard way that children are unfulfilling.

These faggot betas are no different than you even though they think they are. It’s a generational hangover left by previous generations

>objective happiness

Shit man, you've really got it twisted into a knot there

For your sake I hope you find a way to untangle it

So you wish you were never born?

I find the creation of conscious life to be cruel due to life's temporary nature. Why put people through the death of their loved ones and their own eventual demise when it could be easily prevented?

Life is wonderful. I love its simple pleasures. Breathing, eating, listening to music... whatever. However every day I remind myself that these pleasures will not last forever and that any day I might lose those dearest to me.

well, the difference is they're not TRYING to be betas, they're just pathetic incels that fail at fucking everything.

being a bachelor with a naturally nice body is the best thing. if I wanted to fuck I could have dudes lining up around the block, but why bother with manchildren or actual children when I have friends, money, a fulfilling job and free time?

Because women being mothers is sexist.

Hello everyone, my name is Salome Soe Gschwind-Penski. My name is quite unusual, that is because my gene pool is a mixture of Russian and Swiss roots. I used to live in Switzerland, but for the last four years I have been living in Germany, Berlin, and frankly, I really enjoy the city. I make a living by working as an IPTV broadcaster for the Freaks 4U GmbH. I am fluent in German and I usually broadcast German Esport related events.

Parents are unhappier than childless people are. Having children reduces happiness. This is a fact.

>what is inflation
People used to have way more kids than nowadays even though some would die but welfare and other programs have offset that yet white people are being jewed into limiting how many kids they have.
Also, nice reddit spacing snooniggers.
And yet you're sitll alive and well.

>muh feels
Go back to Tumbr faggot

one cat
two cat
red cat
blue cat
I am going to start breading cats I will be rich in a few years

It's called brainwashing.

You're implying that your children would care about you've outlived your personal uses anyway.

I come from a high-end middle class family and my stupid fucking grandmother always sided with my narcissistic, sociopathic uncle because she liked to play "favorites" with her children. The end-game result? Uncle put her into a home and let her die alone so that she wouldn't have to deal with her shit, all the while inheriting all of family inheritance in the process, leaving my aunt and my mother to get fucking nothing. So we didn't bother visiting her while she was dying after that to us - I mean, why would we? How shitty do you have to be to do that to your other two kids? And she herself was indeed a narcissistic cunt.

So don't assume that your kids are going to love you, and that they won't pull off some fucked-up shit and do the same... or that you're going to love your kids, either.

I dunno, thankfully my GF is GenZ and I'm GenY, and she wants to make GenW babies.

>millenials
>working
Kek

millenial women want families but they just sort of assume that it will happen by itself at some point. they don't take any concrete steps to make it happen and get a nasty surprise by the other side of 30

honestly, though, girls need to be encouraged to plan for children from like 16 on the way they're encouraged to plan for college and a career

>my individual happiness is not only defined by dopamine exclusively but also the only thing that matters
Do the world a favor and eat a bullet

I'm alive and well because I don't have a family to take care of. My parents however are financially ruined and may never be able to retire all because they had one child.

If I had a family right now we would be living in a run down studio apartment eating nothing but ramen noodles on my 30k salary.

true, not to mention babies are disgusting shitting and vomit machines

If I can't provide a life better than what I received, why should I have children who will have shittier life than me?

Nobody wants to play the game for liars anymore.

But did you ever try having your own kids?

>hey, you should go take on a bunch of lifelong financial responsibilities because society needs it

yeah I'll get right on that

Yet they had it better than you ever will understand and lived in a nation that was 90%+ white.

The cost of houses and even rent is appsolutly rediculous compared to the amount of pay most. Millenials receive. Not to mention most millenials relationships are trash and the females have been screwing with their hormones for too long on BC to have kids even when they want them without extravagant measures

while multi-generational households will probably come back into fashion the whole "being supported by your parents after college" thing for millenials is a one-off phenomena. it's the natural counterpart to boomers making too much money and not retiring which depresses millenial incomes. once the boomers are gone this won't be repeated

besides, can't keep your kids living in your house if you don't have a dream of affording a house in the first place, right?

The fact that you think of having kids as something you can just "try" like a fucking food sample at Costco is, hm. Interesting.

this 1 faggot is spamming Sup Forums with constant psyop threads
sage, hide

I have seen so many webms and pictures of her by you that my brain tells me she is an acquaintance when i saw her.

This

>Implying modern women favor work or anything else over a positive response to a selfie.

So it goes back to this Why are you going to bring children into a world that's irreparably going to shit?

Sup Forums loves to bitch about minorities and niggers, but most of them don't even have the brain cells to realize or speculate what the A.I. Jew will bring to us in the coming years, for example. You think it's bad now? You have no clue what it's going to be like 15-30 years from now.

Because the pool of guys they have to choose from are a bunch of limp dick assholes preoccupied with the sound of a 70 year old's nuts slappin constantly up against their collective chins.

I asked a genuine question, I don't understand why snappy answer and strawman argument.
You never had your own children so you don't know if you're missing something valuable. I never heard of anyone who had kids that their biggest wish is they never had them. I heard plenty of people regretting not having a child or more children.

Money and time, and already too many niggers and spics taking money that could go somewhere else. People want to "follow" their dreams now-a-days, and children puts a stop on that unless you destroy whatever humanity you have left, for several years working several jobs, 4-8 years of school depending on your major, and living off 4 hours of sleep. Your regular normie doesn't want that. He/she wants to be a software engineer or business manager and make 100k+ a year, or live off youtube gibbs.

They do. They know they do. They're afraid to admit it.

Childbirth is painful and scary!

The whole "leave the house to become your own single & independent adult until marriage + with your own wife/husband & kids" was itself a measley fad that came into existence after the economic booms of WWII and has only managed to last several generations anyway (with the millennial era being the last one before we see the return of multi-generational households again.)

>besides, can't keep your kids living in your house if you don't have a dream of affording a house in the first place, right?

Dreams have nothing to do with anymore, it's all about money. But as you and I have already stated, eventually it'll just go back to multi-generational households again.

No one will give a shit about you when you are old... and those will be lonely times... just you and your dust collecting objects... sad...well, good luck with that pathetic life..

>what is TANF, CHIP, etc.

You don't just "try" having a child, user. That's not a strawman, you absolute shit for brains, it's a fucking lifechanging decision and it's not something you can just take back. You can't just return the baby to the baby store if you decide you don't like it.

And what have you never done that you don't care if you're missing out on? I guarantee there's something. Traveling to a third world country could be a valuable experience. Getting a tattoo could be. Joining the army could be. Going skydiving could be. Taking a women's studies class could be. Getting into an orgy at a swingers club could be.

I don't fucking care if I'm "missing out" on any of these things, and it's exactly the same with the idea of having children. 0% interest. You can't "miss out" on something if you never gave a shit about it in the first place.

To be honest, nobody really gives a shit about anyone that starts living past their use, children of elderly parents included.

>"According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, slightly over 5 percent of the 65+ population occupy nursing homes, congregate care, assisted living, and board-and-care homes, and about 4.2 percent are in nursing homes at any given time. The rate of nursing home use increases with age from 1.4 percent of the young-old to 24.5 percent of the oldest-old. Almost 50 percent of those 95 and older live in nursing homes."

It'll be lonely either way.

>Childbirth is painful and scary!

Welcome to real life.

How can you not live very comfortably with a hundred grand a year?
Did you have a dozen siblings?

my friend is a social worker and basically every kid who comes through her office is screwed up primarily because their parents never wanted them

do you mean to tell me you don't think anyone regrets spawning an autistic ponyfag?

was meant for

They're actually waiting until they're financially stable enough to support children.

Sorry we don't want to spit out white trash welfare babies.

>How come millennial women don't want to have children?

Because they have their hands full with their vidya-playing, man-child boyfriend. One juvenile per household is enough for any woman.

The tone in my post was meant to be mocking/parody

It now worries me that some people read that and saw it as a concrete viewpoint

If you're someone who legitimately agreed with my post you should read it again and realize you've likely never experienced or have utterly forgotten what love is

The world today tends to sneer at anything that doesn't share its biting cynicism, it's not some hallmark Valentine's day buy some chocolates and have sum fuq kinda thing

It's love, and you've gotta realize it's the only thing that's ensured our species survival and sanity

>inb4 muh dopmaine ur brain is just chemicals bro

I'm so sorry for you and hope you get better

Well at least you admit you're a degenerate. Thanks for removing yourself from the gene pool!

I tried most of the things you wrote down but maybe I'm just more open minded about trying new experiences in life. It's good that even you agree that having a child is a life-changing experience. I don't think any of the stuff you labelled comes even close (at least of those I tried). I also never met people who seriously regret not trying skydiving or getting a tattoo -- certainly not as much as not having a child.

Anyway, I was asking you because you seem so certain that it's not worth it, while the impression I got from listening to more experienced people is exactly the opposite.

Stop being picky and get yourself a nice wife with tattoos.