Just look at 2016 and early 2017. We were all over Twitter, subverting the narrative and forming a movement. Today in 2017 we are doing nothing at all. The last thing i can even remember we did that had an impact was "It's okay to be white". I'm going to list out a few problems that i want people to discuss ITT and see if we can come up with a solution.
1. Chasing ghosts: This is not really a 4/pol/ problem but an 8/pol/ problem and Sup Forums becoming complacent is mostly their fault because they are the planners and we are the manpower. Most people here don't know it but 8/pol/ has been wasting time chasing ghosts like "shareblue" or "paid shills" and shit while ignoring leftists that are organizing on twitter, reddit and discord. Our biggest enemy online is not these barely existent shills but the leftist redditors that 8/pol/ has let fester the entirety of 2017 because they've wasted so much time going after shit that doesn't matter. The chans are so much easier for raiding and shit than any of those platforms which is why so many reddit lefties have started using discord along with their subreddits. We could BTFO them if we wanted to.
2. Punching right: Compare how united the alt right was at the start of 2017. Even most alt liters accepted that white people were under attack and we even had marches and shit. Nowadays there is so much infighting the alt right isn't even considered a united bloc anymore but separated between white nationalists and the alt lite. The alt lite never had a problem uniting with the more extreme parts of the alt right but the extremists started to drive them away through purity spiraling with shit like "le based black man" we were literally making memes against our own people. Civic Nationalism was hugely attractive to people outside the alt right and was dragging them into it till these retards started saying it was a bad thing. The more people that support you the better, just look at Atheism. cont.
3. Ridiculing t_d: /r/The_donald was cringe but honestly wasn't really bringing that many newfags outside /ptg/ and were scared away by the rest of the board's racism. /r/the_donald provided huge manpower for us and now we refuse to even work with them. They were our megaphone into the rest of the internet.
4. Leaving Twitter behind: Somewhere around midsummer 2017 alt right accounts on twitter completely grind to a halt. Now it's full of celebs and resistards spewing bile with no opposition.
5. Abandoning the narrative: We have completely abandoned changing the narrative which has left that job to the GOP boomers who suck at it. Because of this, the media has been writing the narrative the entire year while we just sit around and suck our thumbs.
Owen Kelly
1000 likes. That's like the whole alt-right. Congrats to her.
Christopher Butler
>Sup Forums is one person
Brody Morgan
Chaos isn't serves by blindly supporting republicans. Kek no longer will their victory. Chaos is best served letting then flounder now.
Justin Hernandez
we have mods that hate us
Isaiah Young
I started a gang
It's call KFC
kill fucking CUMSKINS
U mad white boi?
Benjamin Cook
Golden post OP, too bad no one else will see your thread because they're all focused on Hollywood miscegenation drama
Brandon Long
Dude all that shit takes a toll on everyones mental state. Need a break after a while. Difference is (((they))) get paid to do it, we all do it for free.
Owen Edwards
It's honestly, which I hate to admit, the fault of shills/compromised mods who know exactly how to distract Sup Forums and also tap into our most prevalent tendancies and interests.
It's super likely that we have failed to realize a crucial point - you need to form alliances with groups that you may not like or agree with 100% in order to unify against evil/shitty leftist BS. There's hope - I think Sup Forums is finding a common identity
Dominic Moore
I liked this post, sorry no one else replied
Josiah Rodriguez
No amount of shilling will make me stop believing that every single boomer deserves to be gassed.
Caleb Bell
>1. Chasing ghosts: This is not really a 4/pol/ problem but an 8/pol/ problem
I'm surprised 8/pol/ has so much influence, everyone listens to them right before their fall. Alienating the alt-lite and the classical liberal Sargon crowd was an 8/pol/ idea. Doxing people who get famous for spreading anti-SJW ideas is always encouraged by 8/pol/. Creating and destroying the Kekistan movement was a 8/pol/ operation. The LARPing street fights with sticks and shields was their idea, and while it worked in Berkeley it has been a disaster since then. Spencer started hanging out with Nazis because of 8/pol/. Anglin and Heimbach planned the Charlottesville rally because of 8/pol/. The Tradthot purge was an 8/pol/ idea. It's time we do something about the Wheeliechan question...
Anthony Smith
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Owen Richardson
>Chasing ghosts Theyre all over the fucking board thugh, take a look at the fucking memeflags everywhere, Not the Natsoc one, because they barely use that one. BLM, DV, Kekistani, Commie, Gagsden...90% of those niggers are shills. >Punching right (((Civic Nationalism))) is literally globalism reduced into borders, Basically "this country is good blah blah blah muh strong borders...BUT DA RAYCIZT" If the Alt lite wants to dance with us, Then they cannot be afraid of the truth about races, history and calling (((them))) out >The_Donald They are fucking usless idiot faggots who are worse then civic nationalists. "le based blck man xdxd, israel greatest ally" The problem with that shit is that its fucking true. Then the "Racism" is something thats not bad, Its a made up construct made by the jews. (pic related) Racism is a law of nature, embrace it. or at least accpt it if you want to be on here. Some t_d faggots who actually took the time to get fully redpilled about everything (jews, immigration, muh 6 gorillion, you name it) i gotta give some slack though. >Twitter We got tired of getting banned and making new accounts, wouldnt you be pissed?
Thomas Allen
Just go back to redd1t you stupid nigger, you obviously do not belong here.
Leo Garcia
Everything isn't falling apart, things are just changing. But anyway your assessment is too long winded. The real reason for fracturing is the enemy using tactics that half of the alt-right/new-right whatever also agreed with, sexual allegations. Half of you retards supported it because it was on dems, when it turned around you were fucked, even though you were warned extensively.
Joshua Lopez
^ Earlier today I proposed a new meme strike to rally our forces and work in tandem with the IOTBW campaign.
#BlackVotesMatter
Implication being >shitskins are literally the field hands of DNC victory >not all votes matter >etc.
Agree and amplify the gloating brown hordes and bluecheck kapos. Turn their browbeating into a red pill. Chum the waters of black arrogance to show normie "allies" that there is no place for them in the brown America.
Let's do this. Blanket reddit, twitter, etc. Let's get back into fighting shape.
Angel Richardson
Weinstein was boomer fox news shit. we had no part in that. It's a side effect of them having to run the narrative because we no longer do it for them. See 5.
Juan Richardson
try not picking a fucking pedo that was shitcanned twice as a judge next time you stupid fucks trump repeatedly tried to get the retarded rednecks to pick ANYONE but him
Dylan Ross
If I want to back based loli fucker thats my God given right!
Matthew Kelly
bumpity bump
Wyatt Smith
people who unironically post with anything but the USA flag should be thrown out of a helicopter
Jayden Reyes
So you're just going to pretend half of us weren't cheering on each new allegation and person brought down by it? It was a moral failing and it bit us in the ass. Now a republican killed himself from it.
Lincoln Jackson
We should constantly be on Trump's twitter posting "kill all niggers" and "gas the Jews" in the comment section
Ryan Perez
>1. Chasing Ghosts Fucking shill detected sage and move on
Thomas Cruz
We definitely need to return to having a coalition between all right-wing factions
Bickering about who's a cuck or who isn't hardline enough on whatever issue is just fucking retarded.
We're literally at the edge of our civilization being destroyed by globalist niggerkikes and we're arguing about who's getting too much patreon money or not pushing white babies out of their vaginas
We need to get back to the coalition. Unfortunately ethno-nationalism is not a platform that other right-wing factions can ally with, but we need to unite against our common enemies again.
We need to fire up the propaganda machines
Xavier Carter
Incredible how hard pol influenced nornies
Jack Garcia
Sup Forums isn't some secret, anyone can spend an hour here an expose any planning. As someone else pointed out, Twitter is banning anything that is conservative.
Isaac Russell
>plebbit spacing GTFO
Robert Flores
>wer for us and now we refuse to even work with them. They were our megaphone into the rest of the internet.
If you honestly think the “problem” is that we’re too hostile towards e-celeb pay piggies and other forms of mental midget filth that come over from Plebbit then YOU are the problem.
Jaxson Sanchez
I sort of think that the light-hearted energy from 2016 is gone.
Pepe isn't funny anymore. Kek isn't funny anymore. We can't all rally around lighthearted memes and trolling SJW libshits.
It's become serious now. Charolettesville was not a meme, and we are now under serious attack. People have gone to prison and our enemies are not fucking around anymore. They're willing to do ANYTHING to stop us, absolutely anything.
So I really don't know how to take it from here. I know the right-wing seriously needs to unite, but I just know this isn't 2016 anymore. That spirit just isn't here now.
Nolan Bell
like 80% of our voting base are people who are too old to even understand the internet shit like this is just annoying because it massively misunderstands where the votes are coming from
Jackson Diaz
Sup Forums Sup Forums isn't shilled
Jack Harris
It's complicated.
We should probably call out weirdos and opportunistic whores, but we also shouldn't drive out recruiters for our ideaology because they aren't hardline enough on whatever issue at the moment.
We haven't even won the war and we're already doing purity purges and stupid shit.... but at the same time, people like Lauren Southern are REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.
I don't know. Part of me just wants to give the country to the fucking kikes and libshits. Just fucking take the damn thing I don't even want it anymore. I just want to move somewhere else at this point.
Jayden Gomez
Well a lot of us thought Moore was some kind of populist. I had no idea he was a boomer christfag bush era relic.
Of course we're gonna laugh at our enemies when something bad happens. Fox still pushed the weinstein shit way more than we did. Also people have started trusting Fox News for some retarded reason. They aren't on our side they only backed Trump because they were forced to when he won the GOP nomination.
eh this doesn't really need to be a secret.
Tradthots can literally do no harm. They might accomplish absolutely nothing but they still do no harm so we might as well keep them on our side in case they actually do something positive for us.
John Martin
>don't mind the shills, you're paranoid >reddit cuckoldry is great >everything is 8/pol/'s fault
get the fuck out
Adam Peterson
I remember in '16 it was more about blowing Leftists out than anything else. Those were fun times.
David Mitchell
>Of course we're gonna laugh at our enemies when something bad happens Nevermind, you're not going to admit to massive fault. The same thing that happened to them happened to us, it was the same movement and political tool. Don't be so stupid, this is also a fault. You can't admit to it.
Nolan Reyes
here's how to not let it happen again: don't pick the creepy boomer bible thumper that randomly pulls his gun out
Daniel Diaz
pedophiles share links to child porn sites everyday on Sup Forums in threads like
How can you respect anyone who shits where they sleep?
Chase Price
>Well a lot of us thought Moore was some kind of populist. I had no idea he was a boomer christfag bush era relic.
Honestly Moore was Sup Forums incarnate
>wanted faggots in prison >thought women shouldn't vote >made light of slavery >wanted to ban Islamists from being allowed to serve in senate >was basically a Christian fascist
That's the shit I like desu. I am really sad he lost, I fucking loved his platform. It wasn't just neo-con cuckery, it was full blown Deus Vult shit. Really what America needs at this point imo
Sad.
Levi Butler
All of this right here, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I know alot of us are ethno nationalists and some civic nationalists but we all share a (((common enemy))). We constantly go on about who is and isnt white enough while ignoring the fact that it further drives division between us. The left is united in their lunacy and its time we do the same. We can bicker about whos form of government should be implemented after we destroy the leftist and third world hordes.
Caleb Bennett
Seriously, the belief that everyone who posts bait or a countering opinion is a shill needs to stop. Have you newfags ever heard of trolling? You know that NEETS have varying political views and many of them do it for the lulz, right? Stop feeding the fucking trolls whether they are paid or a faggot. Start saging. Start spreading the word of whichever side you're on without resorting to extreme lengths off the bat. Also, being completely misogynistic isn't helping anyone. I admit that attention whores who are obviously baiting by saying "Hey Sup Forums, conservative cutie here AMA." should be told tits or GTFO, but if a woman makes a thread and includes she is a grill because it is relevant to the discussion why not just give your honest opinion.
Parker White
Sup Forums was easily subverted by left wing shills. Instead of pursuing common goals they got the retards here to argue and nut flex their politics like the typical soyboy hipsters they are. Truth of the matter is Sup Forums is full of fucking idiots who think they are way smarter than they are and it was going to fail eventually. I didn't think it would be this easy.
Ian Gonzalez
That's Alabama voters, not the alt-right. We don't decide who boomers vote for, they barely even use the internet.
Ryder Howard
Yeah shills don't exist it's mostly trolls. Whenever i find some retarded shit a liberal says on twitter i post it here pretending to support it. When we lose i troll as the opposition to help cope with the defeat.
Robert Powell
>3. Ridiculing t_d: /r/The_donald was cringe but honestly wasn't really bringing that many newfags outside /ptg/ and were scared away by the rest of the board's racism. /r/the_donald provided huge manpower for us and now we refuse to even work with them. They were our megaphone into the rest of the internet.
I don't give a shit what the cost is. I. will. not. race. mix. with. plebbitors. I hate them with the burning passion of a thousand sons. I hate them more than I hate niggers, more than I hate Jews, more than I hate Tumblrinas. On the last day of my life, the last breath that I wheeze out will curse reddit in all its forms and all its users. I will live my life and raise my children with the sole purpose of wiping reddit off the face of the Earth or die trying. Plebbit is the worst thing to ever slither out of the cancer-ridden delapidated dog uterus that is the internet. May reddit die an infinite number of painful judas-cradle caused deaths and burn in Hell's fires for all eternity.
Noah Cruz
Trump winning has made Sup Forums soft. In the meantime the left is wanting to fight back.
Sup Forums needs to get off it's collective lazy asses and starting fighting for more wins.
Jaxon Jones
Sup Forums actually got dumber after the election
My assumption is that the smart people who were making the memes and driving the overall culture of the board in 2016 left after Trump got elected because they have other things to do
Now we have seriously fucktarded people on here who fall for even the most basic b8 or shilling tactics.
Justin Johnson
>Stop feeding the fucking trolls whether they are paid or a faggot.
This would go so far in improving this place but it will never happen. I see anons take extremely obvious b8 without a second thought constantly. In fact b8 posts are usually the most responded to posts in threads these days.
Caleb Torres
No, you newfags are the problem.
For whatever reason the influx of plebbitors and boomers mainly happened more AFTER the election than before it, due to all the HWNDU, Q, and IOTBW LARPing “””activism”””.
Also all the patreonfags on jewtube who became aware of us.
Henry Fisher
...
Blake Walker
*suns
Andrew Howard
Your soul is mine.
Nolan Nelson
>muh redpilling normies Kys See Follow the rules or you dont belong here
Robert Rodriguez
I completely agree. I'm not one to usually bitch about normies but it feels like this place has been flooded this past year just based on how easy it is to b8 anons.
Nolan Gomez
>tfw 8/pol/ is too edgy >tfw 4/pol/ is too normie
Austin Price
It's what? It's r/T_D 2.0, posting Nazism will get you banned
Cooper Bailey
I was barely aware of these things, if it's not a general on pol I dont see it.
Noah Wright
Multiple ideas you fucking ingrate. I know it's your first post on pol but fucksake try to keep up.
Xavier Jenkins
This containment board is effective. I have been banned from other social media enough that I don't want to be there anymore. It is so comfy here.
Jace Butler
Very true. this is real. Be a lone wolf.
Henry Ross
Maybe we shouldn't even be using the internet as our main platform anymore? Why not organize in person meetups and calmly discuss National Socialism face to face with anyone willing to listen? No memes or chants or costumes, just simple truths about race realism and the moral legitimacy of in-group preference.
This. Absolutism and purity is for leftists. And even then they rally together for common goals. This. The time for fun is over, the machine that wants the West and the white race dead kicked into overdrive when Trump won. They're kicking the right-wing off the internet and sowing distrust among us. The e-thot abuse and the refusal to see CivNats as useful idiots is fucking disgusting. And we lost two out of six recent elections in a row- not good enough.
Trump is only buying us a few decades, perhaps even a SINGLE lifetime AT MOST thanks to his judicial appointees. And even then, even if he is /ourguy/ he simply doesn't have the power at his disposal.
Caleb Cook
Small groups are starting to form, mostly young men who want to fight and train together seem the most likely. Sitting around talking about jews is pretty boring. There needs to be blood spilled together to promote unity.
Zachary Sullivan
>We win by teaming with cucks >Hinojosa She has to go back
Easton Foster
You're fucking retarded. The mods reject the "Trump is a kike puppet" psy-op. Have you fucking seen the HTML on that board? It switches between 1488 gnome, Nazi anime girl and kike lampshade.
Landon Walker
I don't mean internal discussions. I mean those guys should set up a booth and distribute flyers.
Eli Edwards
Be careful of any groups you join. Feds always infiltrate and target right wing groups. I agree organizing in person is the next step but just be cautious as fuck.
Wyatt Barnes
bump
Christian Ramirez
The left is less of an enemy than cuckservatives, retard. I would literally team with antifa before teaming with BASED nigger republicans and e-whores.
Lucas Baker
Finally got around to making v4. Trying to simplify the rules to the absolutely important ones, and added some helpful links for newfags.
Matthew Gutierrez
>I would literally team with antifa
That doesn't surprise us
Blake Morgan
He almost won if he wasn't a pedo. Republicans avoid Pedos quicker than gays. Just look at Milo.
Carson Lee
He wasn't even a pedo. Those allegations were fucking retarded
Now the left knows they can accuse every runner of being a rapist and win an election. So that'll be their new tactic from here on out. They'll hire some whores to cry rape and then ruin the person's campaign that way. Of course retarded cuckservatives go right along with it.
Fucking retarded. I am seriously starting to hate this fucking country.
Liam Sullivan
Antifa helps to increase political polarization, increase political violence, and radicalize the right against the left. They are a million times more helpful than plebbit retards and based black man posters.
The problem is that you believe the goal should be to deradicalize people and bring them to the center, then democratically reach some reconciliation. But the real goal is revolution and civil war (the only conceivable way we can have a white state in North America), which requires ramping up hostilities and violence. Our goal is to kill millions of people, not to sing kumbaya with niggers in maga hats.
Noah Torres
The problem is that we literally just did it for lulz while they've had 2 years and millions of dollars to perfect manipulation of Sup Forums
Ian Hill
>muh civil war
Haha holy shit, we also need to drop this meme right now.
We are NEVER having a fucking civil war. Never. At most we'll have some random bouts of violence, maybe some stuff like charolettesville here and there.
We'll just be taken over by globalist communists and most people will just apathetically go along with it as the ship sinks.
Zachary Price
Holy shill batman
Easton Thompson
That's actually fucking genius lmao
Ayden Sanchez
I realized Donald Cuck was not going to do shit about migration but n would only cut Jewish bankers' taxes and gave up. We all got cucked.
Caleb Stewart
Basically this, Sup Forums had fun memeing in a president, then libshits and Jews went insane and are destroying everything, now everyone's scared that there really IS a white genocide happening and no one actually knows how to stop it, so everyone's running in random fucking directions screaming out ideas that are all pointless because everyone is too scared to do any of them.
Tyler Wilson
If the plan is to use non-NatSocs and then purge them later then the plan is doomed from the start
James White
>We are NEVER having a fucking civil war Then we will never have a white state. It's as simple as that. War is the only possible option that will lead to that outcome. We will not achieve goals through votes when America will be minority white within a decade. Terrorism is the only method that will work, and luckily it is one of the most successful political strategies in history.
Luis Sanchez
Agreed.
Also, we're both on a list now.
Kevin Moore
Sup Forums, I am glad you started realizing your position now, but you need to also realize what exactly it is you have done to this board, this site, and even chans in general. You have destroyed Sup Forums. Anyone who was present the last two years had seen the amount of effort that was put towards electing Trump, even going so far as allying with R*ddit to accomplish this. You unleashed hordes of normalfags onto Sup Forums, and particularly your own board. This was the sacrifice you were willing to make: Sup Forums will NEVER go back to the way it was again. You dedicated one hundred percent of your what I will call "cultural resources" to electing Donald, you even dragged the rest of this site's "cultural resources" into this fight. To understand why Sup Forums has changed you must understand normalfaggotry and how it destroys basically anything good it touches. 2016 was your Chanology moment. You might want to live up to it.
Brandon Harris
We are better off using the left. Goad the left into committing acts of terrorism.
Gabriel Campbell
Trump wasn't memed in, he was chosen by the Zionists. Is it not obvious?
William Murphy
I don’t think there will be any using of any groups by us anymore. We played our hand too early
Ryan Howard
Even if that was true most of Sup Forums believes they did, and it still doesnt change the fact that things have gone from bad to down right scary fucking bad ever since the election, and no one here knows what the fuck to do other then have autistic seizures.
Andrew Campbell
>8/pol/ problem and Sup Forums becoming complacent is mostly their fault because they are the planners wtf 8pol is fucking CIA honey[pot you retarded fucking faggot, this is conclusive and not up for debate so now you are fucking fake and gay gas yourself motherfucker, but the rest of your stuff is ok mobilize the useful idiots
Logan Anderson
Yeah pretty much. Worse thing is that I got here like five days ago, and I was still progressive when Trump was elected.
Justin Brooks
>herr derr
Leo Peterson
Dont be a fag coward defeatist. Take that shit out of Sup Forums. If our forefathers acted like (you) we wouldnt exist. Man up
Chase Wood
>Is it not obvious? No it isn't. Israel is in the worst situation they have seen in years, all because of Trump. Trump ended their ISIS proxy war against Syria, allowed Iran to gain control in Iraq and Syria, and now instigated a global intifada against Israel. If he's a Zionist puppet, he is doing a really shitty job of it.
Michael Lopez
Problem is that still won't fix the birth rates. We wouldn't even have a reasonable cause for mass immigration if birthrates hadn't fallen through the floor. Spics or not, this country is going to be barren of white people without hitting that 2.1 mark, and that's not going to happen if we can't get everyone (left, right, and center) making babies again.
What we need is a white awakening. That will take care of birthrates and remove the desire for mass immigration.
Isaac Thompson
Sup Forums is of course a collective made up of individuals. We don't all have the same opinions. But we must all as individuals understand this here to be true. No, they aren't that good at acting.
Carter Taylor
Birth rates are not a problem. Immigration is a problem. Declining population is not a problem. You only believe it is because Jews have told you that you need a constantly growing population in order to keep their federal reserve ponzi scheme running. But we don't need it. Japan proves that conclusively.