Fake old Earth """"Christians"""" need to leave Sup Forums

>claim to be Christian
>claim the Bible to be the word of God literally
>accept the biblical account of the nature of God literally
>accept the biblical account of Jesus literally
>accept the biblical account that Jesus is the Son literally
>accept the biblical account of miracles literally
>accept the biblical account of crucification literally
>accept the biblical account of resurrection literally
>accept biblical prophecy literally
>rejects the biblical account of creation as literal

Young Earth Creationism is the only biblically supported position else you are a hypocrite Christian who is resting on their own standard rather than God's. No exceptions.

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You make Christians look retarded. It's literal in the spiritual realm. If it were meant to be literal it would say, "this is literally a scientific text book literally written by literally God."

>You make Christians look retarded.
I think that's the point.
>this is literally a scientific text book literally written by literally God
Don't call it scientific then none of the christfags would believe it.

>holding to a biblical world-view is retarded
Try harder atheist shill.
> It's literal in the spiritual realm. If it were meant to be literal it would say
>atheists cant into logic
This is self-contradictory and a total fake cop-out and you know it. The bible doesn't support this nonsense. So Jesus wasn't literally resurrected? Nice try.

>dumbass atheist who doesn't understand how the bible was written/different literary styles

you're just as retarded as the people you're trying to criticize, the only difference being, they get to live happy lives with friends and family while you masturbate to anime girls in your mom's basement.

The Bible needs to be interpreted intelligently, not literally. That means considering who the author is, how long the story is passed orally before it's written down, and considering the scientific validity of the text. Your expecting a man who lived thousands of years ago to give a scientifically accurate explanation of creation. That's not to say certain events didn't occur, but it's rather about questioning the degree of accuracy of the event being described.

>projecting this hard
At least you are tacitly admitting you don't understand the bible
You are claiming that you are to interpret the bible, which is to say evaluate it by your own standard, i.e. man's standard, not God's. So you get to pick and choose what happened and what didn't happen, turning the Bible into a book of multiple choice. Fake Christian.
>Your expecting a man who lived thousands of years ago to give a scientifically accurate explanation of creation.
It is the word of God, not merely "muh allegory". Fake Christian.

>believing in the magic sky daddy

faggets

you know you've got someone pegged when they start throwing "projection" around.

whats your waifus name, Steven?

Enjoy having a meaningless life and then being in hell, divorced from the very source of existential meaning, for all eternity.

Christianity is an Iron age semitic hero-worship-meets-human-sacrifice legendary mythology invented by the unlettered inhabitants of the rocky and desolate region of Palestine in the 1st century BCE. It is utterly and completely ridiculous and its worldwide status can be attributed to Constantine's deathbed mistake of dubbing it the true religion of the Roman Empire. It is first) utterly false, and second) laughably spurious whilst also being third) completely indefensible

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>you know you got them pegged when they resort to ad hom rather than addressing the initial reply.
Still waiting on a real reply to
No? Shill on then shill.

Without Christianity you have no basis for morality nor logic nor meaning.

if you're going to troll, at least get your facts straight.

>believing the earth and universe
created themselves.
get fucked mental midget

>pretends the Bible isn't factual
>lectures non-believers about getting their facts straight
Fake Christians are demonstrably worse than non-resistant non-believers.

i gave you the answer, you just refuse to accept it, just like you refuse to accept salvation even when it's spelled out for you.

i hope you see the error of your ways one day, user. you only get one shot at this, and eternity is an awful long time.

>believe in my magic sky daddy or you're going to burn in hell

please, faggets, try harder

Digits confirm.
Cathcuck please go.
Old earth cultural Christian fags BTFO.
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> "it's literal but not literal"
What answer? In your initial reply you contradicted yourself immediately
>it's literal in a spiritual realm
This is new age garbage that isn't claimed in the bible and is literally something you just made up.
>and eternity is an awful long time
Oh so that's literal though? Hahaha you are so inconsistent it hurts. You have literally made up your own religion.

you're not fooling anyone, you know. not even yourself. there's still time for you to repent, i suggest you use it wisely.

Christianity is a continuation and bastardisation of other middle eastern, mediterranean, indian and african religions, all of which derive their roots from ancient rules whose origins may be attributed to our own simian desire for collective wellbeing, other-hate, property-protection, group-belonging and other primate (read: social animal) traits

Enlighten me as to which statement I've made is factually inaccurate.

>the atheist's guide to making up history, the post

the answer is "it's complicated" and literal/non-literal is a false dichotomy. if you knew anything about the bible or literature in general, you would know that. there's a reason people spend their entire lives studying the bible, reading multiple translations, and engaging in debate over the meaning of scripture, you know.

unfortunately, you're just a troll trying to get a rise out of people, so talking to you is pointless. i hope you see the error of your ways and repent one day.

>Christianity is an Iron age semitic hero-worship-meets-human-sacrifice legendary mythology invented by the unlettered inhabitants of the rocky and desolate region of Palestine in the 1st century BCE. It is utterly and completely ridiculous and its worldwide status can be attributed to Constantine's deathbed mistake of dubbing it the true religion of the Roman Empire. It is first) utterly false, and second) laughably spurious whilst also being third) completely indefensible

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Well you can imagine how useful religion is for keeping morons in line especially back then.
1.follow my rules
2.god knows when you don't even when nobody else can see you
3.you will receive punishment which cannot be proved or disproved because you have to die first

>comparing the Bible, God's word, to secular literature
Thanks for the slip up shill, I'll pray for you.

i'm still waiting for someone to get the story right. i'm not holding my breath.

>the answer is "it's complicated" and literal/non-literal is a false dichotomy.
Again, man's standard. This is nowhere in the bible, which is very clear.
> there's a reason people spend their entire lives studying the bible
Because they cling to man's standard and refuse to accept what the Bible actually says, pretty simple.
Faithless and intellectually dishonest, I feel for you user.

Okay, I can name several gods that Jesus of Nazareth is modeled after, including Buddha, Horus, Dionysus, Attis of Phrygia, Romulus (technically a demigod but you get it), etc. Can you provide a defense of Jesus as being an original god or one who is morally superior to the others I have named?

Amen OP speaks the truth

>implying human language and writing doesn't have universal properties within all texts, that are absolutely necessary for communication.

such a brainlet, no wonder you fell for the atheism meme

>being this transparent
Go on then, tell us your strawman of the biblical story that you have concocted yourself and consider superior to the Word of God. Go on..

Yeah, duh. Essentially my point-- religion is man made and a tool for keeping retards in line

Please elaborate.

Fake news.
>blatant blasphemy
You are claiming God and his Word is subject to and limited by limitations of language. Seriously user, check yourself you are really pushing it now.

You will never have any meaningful conversation on Christianity with anyone on this board, ever. It's not worth your time trying to. It's just not going to happen on Sup Forums.

>sage

>claiming something can be "very clear" while denying the existence/relevance of interpretation.

whew lad, you're really digging yourself a hole here.

I actually found to Christianity by assuming young Earth creationism as true and trying to prove it as an effort to troll man-made climate change believers.

Put another way, user you are claiming that God and his actions are subject to man's limitations

Show me where in the Bible does it advocate "interpreting" God's Words?
Pro-tip:IT DOESN'T. Interpretation is by definition subjecting the Bible and thus God's Word to the standard of man.
>laiming something can be "very clear" while denying the existence/relevance of interpretation
Something being self-evident and properly basic is by definition non-interpretional. This is like claiming 2+2=4 is subject to interpretation.

I'll say once again, atheists can't into logic, and fake Christians are atheists.

Christianity is fake news. Jesus was probably a political dissident in the Roman occupation of Palestine, but one of many who shared his name and his mystical declarations. He was, with almost 100% certainty, not a miracle worker, son of god, born of a virgin or a vicarious sacrifice for your sins.

That is incredible! All the glory to Him!

>with almost 100% certainty
>almost

""""Almost"""" certainty isn't certainty at all. Atheists can't into epistemology.

More importantly, he was probably just a guy who advocated not hating people at the bottom of society. How does Sup Forums feel about that, especially considering that he was most definitely not divine?

proverbs, pretty much all of it. this troll would work a lot better if you actually knew the material, you know. maybe you should brush up on it.

it's been fun, but i have work in the morning. i hope you find christ soon.

Lemme rebut your dumb ass
>theists can't speak in terms of "almost certainty"
Which means they can't speak in any terms at all without being absolutely right or absolutely wrong. Thus, you'll understand why they all fight so fucking hard to be right about the dumbass things they claim

>things are similar
>must be the same
Jesus actually existed. Are you that stupid that you don't know that He was in the census?

>vague handwaving then making an excuse to run to avoid having to cop to not knowing scripture
Figured as much, no proof only made up BS. More intellectually dishonest than these moron atheists. Fake Christians are tools of Satan.

Read what you're arguing against before you start debating, dipshit.
You're a bunch of children pretending to be well read and knowledgeable.

Jesus was one of about a few hundred people claiming to be the messiah at the same time in this area of the Roman Empire. All of his life's works, including miraculous or paranormal claims have no basis in historical writings outside of the gospels (written decades after his demise). Attis of Phrygia existed as well. So did Kim Il Sung. Ought we to worship them since they existed?

Jesus comes up in the US census a lot but you don't think all those people are the son of god do you?

Fair enough, can you cite the census you are talking about?

I'm also YEC man, but you must understand that it's not the hill to die on. It's a matter for discussion between Christians, not in a place like this where you're just going to embarrass the Faith. "Wise as serpents," remember?

I am not so ashamed of His Word that I would keep it secret from non-believers.

His word is sophistry and faux-magistery

His word is utter nonsense.

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That's what I thought, when I asked for details hypocrite user runs and goes dark. Talking high and mighty and can't back up their claim.
Flavius Josephus documents more than one person named Jesus by the way, so trying to pin down an unbeliever with a questionable census is retarded.

Hence the failure of trying to defend Christianity by man's standard. There is no support for this in the Bible, all we are to do is proclaim God's Word and His Standard, not make up our own and try to trick non-believers.

They may be pearls, and certain people may be (no offense) swine.

Christians, muslims and jews are swine

Wow, ya really got us.

You're credulous fools, all sinking in the same ship, how about that?

> God is all Good

> When given opportunity to set out important rules for humanity to follow, doesn't prohibit or mention Rape, Slavery, or Age of Consent

> Being a slave owning child molester doesn't break any commandments or go against any biblical instructions.

> Bible includes rules for slavery the page after the Commandments.

> Marital rape is outlawed in the 90s in predominantly Christian countries. Thousands of years after Jesus was born

THAT DELICIOUS TASTE OF INFALLIBLE MORAL GUIDANCE COMING RIGHT AT YOU FROM CHRISTIANITY.

PICK UP A BOWL OF CONTRADICTORY BULLSHIT TODAY!

The million dollar question:

Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.

Take your imaginary friend and shove it.

This is the most retarded thread I’ve ever seen.

Even bigger question:

How do you know you're following the correct God?

Well you guys aren’t.

Jesus was a young earth creationist.

>How do you know you're following the correct God?
You know, once you made the connection.

You mean Atheists? Not at all. What if there is a God only allows non-believers in "fake" Gods to have some afterlife? What if it's all a test to see if you can face oblivion fully believing you will cease to exist, all because you refuse to accept things that have no evidence for being true.

There is just as much evidence for THAT God existing as yours.

Strange how every other religious person claims the same thing, including religions or beliefs incompatible with your own.

Delusion is pretty powerful stuff.

You just simply can't take the book of Genesis literally.

In the garden of Eden story, God has a physical form. And he is not omniscient, he can be hidden from.

Either the book of Genesis is metaphorical, or it is literal and everything we know about the nature of God is wrong.

Even Jewish rabbis decades before the birth of Christ acknowledged the Torah as metaphorical. There is no Christian alive today that takes EVERY part of the Bible literally. There aren't many Christians around lopping off pieces of their body, plucking out their eyes, or making themselves eunichs.

All other religions are works based. Only biblical christianity is unique in that it is grace based. grace means unmerited favor. God has mercy on those who he wants to have mercy on. It is nothing that we can do, but what He did on the cross that sets us free.
Once you accept the forgiveness that if offered on the cross then you can be free from the authority of Satan on over your life. Be filled with the Holy Spirit and do the will of the Lord.

And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’

If something causes you to sin, cut it out of your life. Having trouble watching porn? throw out your computer. Tempted to cheat on your wife with your co-worker? find different job. Smoking weed? stop being friends with your weed smoking friends. We are instructed to flee from sin.

OR it was written by morons from the middle east who had no understanding of the scientific nature of the universe, and therefore wrote a lot of made up shit about creation, cobbled from even older myths.

And as we progress towards a future they couldn't have comprehended, religious believers have had to slowly change their beliefs and the literal nature of biblical scripture due to our new understanding of our world.

Tl;dr - It was literal until it was demonstrated to be bullshit, and now it's metaphorical. Because the Bible can't just be WRONG.

TFW your brothers and sisters in Christ accept the restored gospel of Christ.

his is why Theoretical Physicist and Quantum Theorist believe in an intelligence designer.

However, I will demonstrate a SPECIFIC creator to you.

>(Isaiah 44:6) “This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ‘I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.

>(Revelation 1:8) “I am the Alpha and the O·mega,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

>(Revelation 21:6) And he said to me: “They have come to pass! I am the Alpha and the O·mega, the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free.

>(Psalm 90:2) ... Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.

>(Jeremiah 10:10) But Jehovah is in truth God. He is the living God and the King to time indefinite.

PAY ATTENTION HERE

>(1 Kings 8:27) “But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, themselves cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!

PAY ATTENTION HERE

>(Deuteronomy 10:14) Behold, to Jehovah your God belong the heavens, EVEN THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, the earth and all that is in it.

The first set up above describe God in an INFINITE EXISTENCE beyond all time and space. That's why God is the beginning and the end. The second part describes God as being bigger than the universe itself. The third is describing different dimensions of existence. That's why heaven has its own heaven. It's describing different dimensions. God is bigger than the entire universe but also probably the multi-verse and all dimensions. He is infinity itself. No other god/gods is described in such a perfect state. All other ancient gods were animals, humanoids living underwater, on mountains or in the clouds.

Pay attention: Where did those ancient sand people get the ideas of extra-dimensional non-corporeal beings beyond the space-time continuam? Where did they get the idea of someone being bigger than the entire universe itself? Where did they get the idea of a being that extends from past, present, and future simultaneously? Where did they get the idea of a living infinity?

All other ancient cultures described their gods from limited human points of view. They described their gods as animals, plants, animal-human hybrids, and fully human figured. They placed those gods in locations humans could see from the oceans, rivers, mountains, sun, moon, stars, sky, clouds, etc.

Yet the God of the Bible is described in a Quantum state of existence. In a state of existence that most educated humans can barely understand today.

Time frame was slightly skewed in the Beginning. We all know people live 80ish years on average, yet all the Biblical figures lived hundreds of years. Noah, Kane, Seth, etc. All lived supposedly lived hundreds of years if not more. Who can tell how long does one day of G_d's Creation last.

Pay attention: Where did those ancient sand people get the ideas of extra-dimensional non-corporeal beings beyond the space-time continuam? Where did they get the idea of someone being bigger than the entire universe itself? Where did they get the idea of a being that extends from past, present, and future simultaneously? Where did they get the idea of a living infinity?

All other ancient cultures described their gods from limited human points of view. They described their gods as animals, plants, animal-human hybrids, and fully human figured. They placed those gods in locations humans could see from the oceans, rivers, mountains, sun, moon, stars, sky, clouds, etc.

Yet the God of the Bible is described in a Quantum state of existence. In a state of existence that most educated humans can barely understand today.

>Strange how every other religious person claims the same thing
That is a lie.
Many people struggle with their beliefs and turn to their priests or false prophets for answers.
Those who have no connection with God can't see the truth, those who have, turn to Jesus Christ.

Atheists can't respond to this

That's a fucking retarded thing to say. The illiterate peoples of Roman Palestine did not belive in nor did they conceive of quantum beings when they wrote the books of the New Testament. They believed in human sacrifice, transformational miracles and the chewed-over remains of Jewish holy books, none of which contained any wisdom, thoughtfulness or transcendence to speak of

Atheists can respond to this quite succinctly:
>that's fucking retarded

The problem with this "what if life is about facing death and seeing it for what it is" idea, is that, facing this challenge becomes all the more difficult for the atheist psyche. For the atheist mind, death will always be feared and his life will ultimately be utterly controlled by it (since he believes this is all there is, and that after it, comes nothing). This leads them into the exact place satan wants them, to value and cherish this life here on Earth as much as possible, so that it becomes even more horrifying and terrible for the person when he rips it apart in front of them. The fact is, for a thinking human, death can only be defeated With the notion of an afterlife. If you believe death is the end, death will always be a restriction for you, and you can be controlled. If you believe death is not the end, you can defeat it, as it no longer holds ultimate Control over you. death can only be surpassed mentally by believing in God and an afterlife.

Im not saying this is evidence for God, however I say it is a pointer. Humans are the only creatures who needs this knowledge in order to strive, animals are steered by their biological drives and that is enough for them. For thinking beings, however, the afterlife is necessary. Also, I say that, since believing in the supernatural gives so many advantages, I say that in itself is evidence for Him. Oh btw, Jesus lives.

Yet that doesn't change the fact that they wrote of such beings in such existence while their neighbors worshipped gods with animal heads or blue skinned humans.

>They believed in human sacrifice, transformational miracles and the chewed-over remains of Jewish holy books, none of which contained any wisdom, thoughtfulness or transcendence to speak of

Pure ignorance

>For the atheist mind, death will always be feared and his life will ultimately be utterly controlled by it (since he believes this is all there is, and that after it, comes nothing).
>Projecting this hard.
Wow you really have to be an idiot if you think this. Same argument as the "how can you have morality without god" which is just as fucking stupid.

Try responding to it in a way that doesn't make you look like a brainlet who is in way over his head then

Is it? death entails the exact same consequenses and has the exact same ramifications for all people. And I see it all the time, there is nobody more scared of death than atheists. And that is because, the atheist view doesn't deal properly with the issue. It's an issue for all people, atheists do their best to avoid it.

>nobody more scared of death than atheists
You keep doing this, how are you speaking for a group you don't even agree with and then expecting me to follow your false premise.

I suppose you would like the bible to give you moral guidance on how to cuck yourself

>All other religions are works based.
False, forms of pure land Buddhism for example are entirely devoid of works for their soteriology. Literally grace via Amitabha Buddha does it all.

im not speaking for a group, im speaking of a group.

Greek Pagans had many of the same ideas. Augustine literally writes about borrowing his understanding of the nature of God from Plato and Pliny etc. This includes the omni's etc.

This is what the project of "Open Theism" is all about, Christians trying to understand the scripture independent of pagan understanding.

Furthermore, East Asian and (less common though) Indian forms of Buddhism had very similar ideas (for example of the Dharmakaya.

Stop making stuff up, it just makes Christians look bad.

Holy fuck what is with all the religion threads tonight?

It's all been
>Christianity is for cucks!
>Atheism number one, Christianity is bad!
>Only (Retarded position) is the true christianity!

It's a fucking raid of Anti Christians, and it needs to fuck off.