I just finished this masterpiece, it was perfect from begining to end, literally no flaws, it's probably the most inteligent piece of art a have ever watched, not only from anime, but in general.
This scene in particular... is this best directed scene of the audio-visual media ever created?. I did know that this show was gonna be special and I did know that it was gonna have deaths, but this... This scene is just so fucking great, it has not epic or sad music, or blood, or a close-up or an emphasis, and nothing, I don't know if that is the reason why (probably is just a part because I've watched this kind of stuff many times and it never felt like this) , but it actually fucking does manage to convey what you actually feel when you find out that a familiar/friend has died. It just feel so fucking real, everything in this show feels real, the characters, even the context of the abilities is actually plausible (its very possible that if there's a civilization advanced enough they could be trying to stop the theoretical eventual end of the universe caused for the lack of energy aka "big freeze"), I mean, even the most fanciful things would make sense in the real world, but holy shit...the fact that even the fucking deaths feel real is what put this in a entirely new level for me...As someone who loves Eva I'll have to say that this is better..
Lurk two years before posting, then kill yourself.
Matthew Johnson
Eat shit.
Lucas Ward
Watch more than twenty anime, and learn how to write a sentence without ellipses or incorrect punctuation.
Dominic Adams
>literally no flaws >most intelligent piece of art it's apparent you are young or have not experienced a wide variety of artistic expression. madoka is good, but calm down. it has an analagous story that isn't anything new, characters that lack depth and aren't anything remarkable(most are kindof bad actually), DM-fiat style plot forcing(time travel is lazy), etc. etc. not the most original thing ever made. >better than evangelion it's also apparent you have shit taste. evangelion has remarkable characters, an obscenely original plot and plot devices and is written masterfully. I think you're just either a kid or are in a honeymoon phase with the series.
Camden Morales
English is not my native language, I just started studying a year ago so thats probably the reason (pretty easy language btw).
Also, fuck off and die retard.
Justin Howard
OP is an autistic teen but he is right about Madoka being better than Evangelion. Eva is great you're a literal homosexual and was confused as a teen.
Grayson Jackson
...
Mason Ramirez
>(pretty easy language btw) there's a reason it rules the world. it's efficient and makes sense.
Juan Foster
>critizes MM for subjetive reasons >defends Eva even though it has the same flaws he points out
wew, calm down Eva fanboy
Benjamin Morales
not really an opinion I can take seriously, maybe consider rewatching the series as an adult. anno is a talented character writer and is one of the better people out there with science fiction settings. as opposed to madoka that's BTFO by series in it's own genre(sakura, tutu, utena etc. etc.).
generally people who think evangelion is bad have not watched it, have not watched all of it, or have not watched it as an adult. it's p undeniably good. that's part of why everyone's still autistic about it twenty years later.
Oliver Clark
>even though it has the same flaws he points out such as? I think you'll have trouble finding a decent-sized list of series with better written characters and more original design than eva. particularly when it comes to originality, you're fucked.
Ethan Allen
> English is not my native language Not an excuse. This is an English-language imageboard. That also does nothing to explain the constant ellipses.
Evan Ross
>as opposed to madoka that's BTFO by series in it's own genre(sakura, tutu, utena etc. etc.).
Literally girls' shows kys contrariancuck.
Adam Walker
is their intended audience supposed to make them bad or something? they're all a lot better than mm.
Juan Walker
Cool bait, would bite again. Rebellion, while unnecessary, was the most enjoyable thing to come out of this franchise.
Anthony King
madoka's focus was also female audiences.
Henry Young
I guess I should rewatch it because it has been many years since I last saw it but I very much remember it revolving around an insecure boy who falls apart whenever he's forced into a man's role and seems happiest when playing with another boy. A big reason I like TTGL so much in comparison is because Simon is basically Shinji at first but he makes himself into the man he wants to be.
Adrian Reed
You're a truly pathetic human being, either if you actually think those shows are good or if you're just being contrarian. Literally end yourself.
Joshua Butler
It isn't, though.
Grayson Lee
It didn't have any dreamy fujo bait but there was a ton of yuri. It was probably not aimed at girls
Brayden Myers
yeah I think you'll find after a rewatch that comparing eva to ttgl and having ttgl come out on top is a bit of a child's opinion, which there's nothing wrong with that, makes perfect sense if you watched them while young. akin to preferring sword art online to berserk or something. the cheese and laziness behind ttgl is apparent, and the author doesn't know how to write a good female character.
Adam Martin
what do you mean? utena, tutu, cardcaptor sakura are among the best series ever made. were you not aware of this? you should watch them, they're great.
if it were aimed at males more than females, there would be fan service. that's what it comes down to. even CCS has fan service.
Brandon Sullivan
He's better than Anno at writing good male characters though.
God I love the ending is so tragic and depressive, as opposed to the Opening that is like "welcome to your generic magical girls show", the contrast is just genius.
David Price
>if it were aimed at males more than females, there would be fan service
I saw plenty of that actually
Parker Turner
>utena, tutu, cardcaptor sakura are among the best series ever made. were you not aware of this? you should watch them, they're great. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What are you,a 12yo girl? HAHAHAHAHA kys. Tutu is good, though
Alexander Peterson
I very much disagree with that. I guessed the story arcs of both of the main male characters in ttgl before their conclusions, because they were fairly comparable to typical character arcs in an unrealistic hero action story. I think maybe if you project yourself onto the characters in a series, you'll be happier with someone who responds to stressful situations unrealistically, or builds into some kind of badass, or makes some kind of badass sacrifice, or maybe that kind of character pumps you up in an escapist kind of way. that's fine, I'm not telling you what you should and shouldn't like. I think the idea that ttgl had better written characters than eva is a farce, though. shinji acted real, felt real, behaved in a realistic manner, had depth of emotions and thoughts and a history of experiences that effected his decisions that was drawn out throughout the series. kaji and gendo are both extremely dynamic characters where you get a large sense that you are seeing the tip of the iceberg of their personalities with what you see in the story. it's very difficult to sense their motives, but you get the idea that their decisions are meditated on with intellectuality and purpose. it's a bit of an accomplishment for someone to produce such depth.
ttgl is like "Yo I'm cool less fuck em up dw bro I got u" type male character writing.
Luis Cooper
no, you screencapped the single most extreme example of it in the entire series that is more of a gag referring to revealing clothing in shoujos than fan service.
have you watched the other two? they're just as good. watch them.
Isaiah Nguyen
>shinji acted real, felt real, behaved in a realistic manner
Not really, he was just on the other side of the coin from Simon/Kamina. He's ridiculously melodramatic as fuck. You'd think that as someone who starts off the story already rock bottom would become desensitized and at least behave less like a hormonal bitch but he doesn't, he just gets worse.
That's not even the most extreme example. Don't try to move the goalposts.
Easton Gray
Here's your (you).
Bentley Bell
he goes through a period of desensitization, though. and then he gets pushed over that edge as well. and no, I wouldn't think a teenager would behave anything but melodramatically in his situation. have you ever had a conversation with a teenager?
I like how the only examples you can find of anything that can be argued as "fan service" is artwork and gags in the OP. I don't think you know what fan service is, and there certainly isn't any whatsoever in the series, not even a second of time let alone a single scene is devoted to fan service. also, you don't know what "moving goalposts" means at all, either. how have I attempted to redesign my claim?
Zachary Rogers
Yeah, I even watched SCC when I was like 10 and still didn't like it. You're just a tryhard faggot.
Jaxon Davis
>I like how the only examples you can find of anything that can be argued as "fan service" is artwork and gags in the OP. >how have I attempted to redesign my claim?
kek
Hudson Green
I liked it. For some reason I always prefer closed short arcs to endless stories like one piece.
Asher Edwards
Madoka is edgy and full of schock value. Muh dark magical girl.Muh deconstruction. Go watch Princess Tutu. It did it better and a lot of years before.
Jordan Stewart
I already said yes, saints alive do you need it in sky writing?
Tyler Stewart
what, the dubbed version? completely different presentation of the series, it's crap, google it.
it's true, though. the series contains no fan service. just because you found a gag or piece of art in a music video that gives you a boner doesn't mean there is fan service in the series at all. you literally don't know what fan service is if you think a drawing of a character that you perv on outside of an episode is regarded as such.
madoka doesn't even have a beach episode.
Jacob Young
Rebellion was entry level for what that franchise can do. And by entry level I mean the same way DC Rebirth is entry level comics.
Ryan Hughes
Should I even bother watching the movies? I really liked the series and I think the idea of the movies is pretty unnecessary.
Cameron Green
Already watched it, it's goos but nothing outstanding desu.
>edgy
There's only one death in the whole series and there's not even blood, accept it, MM is great. Stop being a contrarian.
Adam Stewart
Rebellion is new content, the first two are just the entire series edited and condensed.
Sebastian Jenkins
not him but MM is definitely a little edgy. not saying it's a bad show. claiming tutu is worse is just sad, though. it's like picking a hostess snack over a home baked chocolate cake.
Jason Myers
Shaft gimmick visuals are edgy. Im not talking about blood or deaths. Even the Kalafina music is edgy. Same goes for Kara no Kyoukai.
David Lee
Is the new content good?
Parker Carter
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Brayden Morris
really i heard english was pretty hard to learn well I dont know
Cameron Martinez
You're retarded if you think putting a poorly-adjusted hormonal teenager in high-stress life-threatening situations could realistically produce anything but disastrous results.
Zachary Long
I feel sorry for you if you think this scene was sexual and not beautiful. coming from someone with lolis in panties all over their desktop.
Nathan Nelson
Yes.
Mason Martin
What the fuck is your definition of edgy? Yes. Only retards and contrarians dislike it.
Eli Walker
>hurr durr an original and inspired artstyle is edgy!! what is even your definition of edgy? kys retard.
Gavin Kelly
There are people who jerk off to Lain. A couple of naked teenage girls with visible curves embracing each other is yuri fanservice. Sorry.
Owen White
It's really easy...I mean at least for me, but considering that my IQ is 140 I can't really tell for sure desu senpai.
Jose Russell
Shaft gimmicks are original? Lmao. Yeah the head tilts in their every anime and background elements moving around always are very original. Its the definition of edge.
Camden Martin
you're ignoring intention and utilizing tunnel-vision on out of context imagery to try and fit your initial claims. THAT, by the way, is an example of shifting goalposts.
>calling the most dramatic, conclusive, and emotional scene of the series it's single example of "fan service" you don't know what fan service is.
Zachary Peterson
It doesn't have the same impact as the show itself, which was pretty self-consistent without much room for 'sequels' if you ask me. The story is somewhat convoluted to fit into the established canon. By no means bad but nowhere as clear cut and (reasonably) straightforward as the show. However, visually I would say it is on-par, if not superiour.
Owen Phillips
You're the one with tunnel-vision, m8
Ethan Adams
English is in fact a very easy second, yet a hard first language.
Dominic Reed
While you might be exaggerating a little, it is defnitely better than Eva, and one of the best animus to date.
Isaac Wilson
I mean it's pretty fucking great and it's my 4th favourite anime but calm your tits, it ain't that perfect mate
Hudson Barnes
Rebellion is lame and has an unsatisfactory conclusion. It does explore an aspect of Homura's character the show teased a fucking lot but never took it anywhere. the crazy evil bitch side of her
Alexander Rivera
Have you seen Rebellion?
Joseph Morales
No Absolutely nothing happens for the first hour+, a new character is introduced for no reason and does absolutely nothing, Sayaka can now turn into her witch form at will, and Homura's motivation is weird as fuck and contradicts the ending of the series.
The show was self contained with nothing to really continue off of. Rebellion could only add a tiny bit of additional content before rewinding everything to allow for more sequels.
Jayden Russell
I dropped it at episode 3 because Im tired of forced edgy shit. Started watching Card Captor instead
Noah Rodriguez
Nope, I do know that there's some movies but what I watched was so perfect that I just don't feel the need. you don't know you stupid fuck, I'm passionate about physics, quantum mechanic and that kind of shit and the fact that this touches some of those topics in such a fantastic way just blows my mind.
Bentley Anderson
It is a very good series. I was very shocked when I first watched that scene. I thought it would maybe have been a little darker than other magical girl shows I had watched but I was not expecting all of the suffering. The sadder parts really made me feel for the characters though and I love them very much now. Overall I think it is a very good show.
You should watch the movie sequel if you have not yet done so. It is very good.
Jack Roberts
>a character can't die in an anime, otherwise it's edgy!!
Keep watching your anime series for retarded japanese kids, retard.
Robert Evans
>people actually took this post sincerely
Easton Young
Cardcaptor Sakura is very good too. I think you can enjoy both series.
Okay, but do keep in mind that the movie adds the cutest character of all. If you don't want to miss her you should watch it right away.
Evan Howard
It was good.
Sayaka is shit.
Justin Hill
>I'm passionate about physics, quantum mechanics and that kind of shit >This touches on those topics in such a fantastic way You do realize the plot of Madoka revolves around aliens powering their civilization off the suffering of little girls?
Nathan Myers
9/10 anime
it would be a10/10 if the first 9 episodes werent so boring, the last 3 episodes were everything
Parker Sullivan
Hes talking about entropy. Also aliens arent using suffering to power anything. Please go back to 4th grade and work on your reading comprehension.
Robert Russell
>people still write essays about Madoka and Eva
I don't feel so bad about my life
Landon Taylor
>the movie adds the cutest character of all Dont be baited into watching this trash. Shes only in the movie for >5 minutes
Alexander Peterson
The first two movies are recaps with some improved and some deleted scenes.
Levi Jenkins
the scifi stuff is all a hand-wavy metaphor
5 minutes too many
Elijah Clark
Except that's exactly what they were doing. They used suffering of little girls to defy physics and produce free energy without increasing entropy.
Ryan Green
Correct
Thomas Richardson
rewatch it, you clearly didn't get it, retard.
Owen Hall
Please, explain what Kyubey was doing if I'm such a retard.
Ayden Collins
I ain't gonna spoonfeed you anything you little piece of shit, go watch it again and pay attention this time, massive fucking cunt.
Aiden Hughes
I never saw this but why is that generally dullahans likes this anime?
Blake Hall
>cute >dark >popular >anime one is bad enough, all four is a recipe for disaster
The way the first three eps were designed was clever. The cute opening, the wide faces, colorful world, the cute ending, etc.. Then comes ep.3, where you see the series true colors and tone. All of which is compounded by the cute end being replaced by the darker end, while you sit there still taking in what happened... It will always be one of those shows that you will wish to experience for the first time again.
Xavier Bell
imagine being so contrarian that you have to start a false flag thread to show how much you hate a popular series
Oliver Ramirez
7.5 at best
Check'em
Thomas Gomez
I'm sure OP was being genuine but is just new to Sup Forums so he didn't realize how vitriolic everyone here is.
Nolan Sanchez
Rebellion is otaku-pandering cashgrab shit.
Evan Perry
>"The thing that happened and was explicitly stated didn't happen" >"Explain" >"REEEEEEEEEE"
Eat a gun.
Logan Foster
Homu is too cute.
Justin Barnes
>Hurr durr, a show can't be aimed at males unless there's fan service
Caleb Gonzalez
Ah, the thread to praise the drills.
Joseph Robinson
I did like Madoka but the Mami death scene actually had almost no effect on me because I thought that Madoka would just use her wish to bring Mami back to life. It wasn't until the 10th episode or something I realised she was actually gone.
