The University of Iowa will no longer recognize a campus Christian group after it refused to give a gay student a leadership position.
In response, Business Leaders in Christ sued the university this week, alleging the institution violated state law and the group members’ constitutional rights. The federal lawsuit states that Iowa told the organization to change its statement of faith to comply with university policy.
Last year, a student complained to the university that he was denied the vice presidency of the group because he was gay. The group claims it was not discriminating against him and that he could keep his membership, but that to be a leader, the student needed to abide by certain religious beliefs that did not include same-sex relationships.
"This is 2017, not 1984," Jacob Estell, president of Business Leaders in Christ, said in a statement. "Our beliefs weren’t made by us, and they can’t be changed by us, either -- certainly not just to satisfy Orwellian government rules."
The university has said the organization infringed on both internal policy and state law. "The University of Iowa recently found Business Leaders in Christ violated the UI’s Human Rights Policy and the Iowa Civil Rights Act," a university statement said.
"Membership and participation in the organization must be open to all students without regard to race, creed, color, religion, national origin, age, sex, pregnancy, disability, genetic information, status as a U.S. veteran, service in the U.S. military, sexual orientation, gender identity, associational preferences or any other classification that deprives the person of consideration as an individual."
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2010 that colleges can limit and revoke official recognition to student groups that operate under biased rules.
Iowa City user here. The rest of the state went for Trump, but Iowa City is a liberal hellhole. Some cuck threw a tomato at Trump, I have keep my power level to a minimum.
In regards to OP, I'll bet that faggot who complained is just another SJW who probably wasn't even qualified for a VP position. Will be an interesting case to watch, as the Prez of the Uni is a Trump supporter who hates all the SJW shit.
Julian Ortiz
Why should people not be considered as individuals?
Aaron Gonzalez
Fags gonna fag.
Josiah Long
ITS 2017
We only have a few more weeks of this meme
Jordan Campbell
Men sucking dick and ass rape are not Christian principles. At least not the group we are discussing. Their group, their rules. Why do you faggots want to change everything and MAKE everyone accept you? It will never happen.
Nicholas Morgan
Dividing people into groups is meaningful, so is thinking of people as individuals. Both things are true at the same time.
Luis Green
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Kayden King
faggots
Joseph Stewart
Fags aren't people. They are fucking animals and should be all shot in the head.
Parker Nelson
I wonder if they would've done the same to a m"slim group?
Blake Cruz
They weren't kicking faggot out of the group. Just couldn't be a leader. Tell me why, if this group has a rule that faggots can't be leaders, would a faggot want to be their leader? Even if the Uni forced them to make faggot a leader, no one would follow the fag due to everyone being mad about the cocksucker fucking everything up.
Julian Bennett
>if this group has a rule that faggots can't be leaders, would a faggot want to be their leader? To subvert it. Anytime someone wants to push their way into a group that doesn't want them around, they're only there to cause trouble.
A divided Supreme Court today ruled, 5-4, that a public law school can deny recognition to a student group that excludes gays and lesbians. The Court said the school could enforce a policy requiring official student organizations to accept all students who want to join.
The case, Christian Legal Society v. Martinez, arose in 2004 when a chapter of the Christian Legal Society (CLS), a nationwide, non-denominational organization of Christian lawyers, judges and law students, asked to register as an official student group at the University of California’s Hastings College of Law. Groups that are officially recognized by the school enjoy certain privileges, including access to school facilities and the opportunity to apply for school funding. But CLS membership requirements effectively bar non-Christians and non-celibate gays and lesbians from becoming voting members or assuming leadership positions, which conflicts with the law school’s stated policy of requiring registered student groups to accept any students as members. After Hastings refused to exempt CLS from the policy – known as the “all-comers” policy – the group sued the law school, claiming the policy violated the group’s First Amendment rights to free speech, freedom of association and freedom of religious expression. Two lower federal courts sided with Hastings, and CLS appealed to the Supreme Court, which heard oral arguments in the case on April 19, 2010.
The policy of Hastings, which requires student groups to accept all students regardless of their status or beliefs in order to obtain official recognition, is a reasonable, viewpoint-neutral condition on access to the forum; it therefore does not transgress First Amendment limitations. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit affirmed and remanded.
CLS argued that Hastings could alter its policy to allow organizations to exclude a student if the student's "beliefs and conduct" did not correspond with those of the student organization but not allow a student to be excluded from an organization based on the student's "status", that is, race or gender. Justice Ginsburg, writing for the majority, said that Hastings would then have to review each organization's exclusionary rules to determine "whether a student organization cloaked prohibited status exclusion in belief-based garb". She offered the example of a hypothetical "Male-Supremacy Club" that forbade a female member from running for its presidency, leaving Hastings to determine whether her election bid was denied because of her sex or because she did not adhere to the doctrine of male supremacy. Since the particular issue in the case involved the exclusion of homosexual students, CLS had asserted that it did not restrict membership based on sexual orientation but based on "conduct and belief that the conduct is not wrong". Ginsburg rejected that distinction, noting that with respect to sexual orientation the court has "declined to distinguish between status and conduct" and offering the parallel from Bray v. Alexandria Women's Health Clinic: "A tax on wearing yarmulkes is a tax on Jews".[7]
Anthony Jones
How is being persecuted for being a Christian in Gommorah news?
Ian Ramirez
2010. We got a new Supreme Court now. Regardless, it's got to get through the Iowa Supreme Court first, which is right leaning. When are you faggots going to realize the more you fight for 'rights' only makes us hate you more. You're the one going to hell for your ultimate sin of cock love, not me.
Juan Hernandez
Since the particular issue in the case involved the exclusion of homosexual students, CLS had asserted that it did not restrict membership based on sexual orientation but based on "conduct and belief that the conduct is not wrong". Ginsburg rejected that distinction, noting that with respect to sexual orientation the court has "declined to distinguish between status and conduct" and offering the parallel from Bray v. Alexandria Women's Health Clinic: "A tax on wearing yarmulkes is a tax on Jews".
Agree or disagree?
Jackson Price
>Joint a organization and religion that says you are a abomination >Gets surprised when is denied to have a leader position
Why gays are like this?
Chase Lewis
Honestly, I think Ginsberg was wrong on this. Christian fundamental being sex is for procreation. It would be interesting to find out what other standards and rules this student group in question has in place.
Elijah Barnes
If it were a Muslim group it would be fine because liberals hate conservative Christians but love conservative Muslims.
Parker Collins
Is a tax on Yarmulkes a tax on Jews?
Nathan Wilson
Is income tax then a tax on white people?
Asher Kelly
Good thing the faggot wasn't excluded from joining out participating.
Ian Gray
>liberals hate conservative Christians but love conservative Muslims They'll love them up until the moment they're hanging upside down from their ankles, 50 feet off the ground.
Jason Morris
He wasn't prevented from joining the group and no, anyone can buy a yamakule.
Kevin Kelly
No because other races pay taxes.
David Gomez
The problem with that statement is that it comes from a kike. So it's biased and I believe she overstepped her duties by writing it in her brief. I'm not familiar with Bray v Alexandria My answer to your Q-No.
Brandon Ortiz
Does anyone actually wear a Yarmulke who isn't Jewish? Would a ban on communion wafers not be discriminatory towards Christians?
Dominic Evans
Makes sense if it's taxpayer funded.
Anthony Lee
No where does it say he has to be a leader of the group. The Christan group is following all the proper laws here by saying he can still be a member of the group.
Jonathan Nguyen
They would never do that, Muslims are brown. #NotAllMuslims
Matthew Rivera
Respondents' contention, however, is that the alleged class-based discrimination is directed not at "women seeking abortion" but at women in general. We find it unnecessary to decide whether that is a qualifying class under § 1985(3), since the claim that petitioners' opposition to abortion reflects an animus against women in general must be rejected. We do not think that the "animus" requirement can be met
only by maliciously motivated, as opposed to assertedly benign (though objectively invidious), discrimination against women. It does demand, however, at least a purpose that focuses upon women by reason of their sex-for example (to use an illustration of assertedly benign discrimination), the purpose of "saving" women because they are women from a combative, aggressive profession such as the practice of law. The record in this case does not indicate that petitioners' demonstrations are motivated by a purpose (malevolent or benign) directed specifically at women as a class; to the contrary, the District Court found that petitioners define their "rescues" not with reference to women, but as physical intervention "'between abortionists and the innocent victims,'" and that "all [petitioners] share a deep commitment to the goals of stopping the practice of abortion and reversing its legalization." 726 F. Supp., at 1488. Given this record, respondents' contention that a class-based animus has been established can be true only if one of two suggested propositions is true: (1) that opposition to abortion can reasonably be presumed to reflect a sex-based intent, or (2) that intent is irrelevant, and a class-based animus can be determined solely by effect. Neither proposition is supportable.
Carson Murphy
As to the first: Some activities may be such an irrational object of disfavor that, if they are targeted, and if they also happen to be engaged in exclusively or predominantly by a particular class of people, an intent to disfavor that class can readily be presumed. A tax on wearing yarmulkes is a tax on Jews. But opposition to voluntary abortion cannot possibly be considered such an irrational surrogate for opposition to (or paternalism towards) women. Whatever one thinks of abortion, it cannot be denied that there are common and respectable reasons for opposing it, other than hatred of, or condescension toward (or indeed any view at all concerning), women as a class-as is evident from the fact that men and women are on both sides of the issue, just as men and women are on both sides of petitioners' unlawful demonstrations.
Zachary Evans
you're taking all of this way beyond context, faggot. you must be getting high from your hairspray. I work with some of the Uni student groups, and I've seen how they are with good leaders and bad leaders. It makes for a long year if they have bad leaders. Based Christian group knows this. Would you rather them not have a rule and then faggots get to be 'considered' for leaders, but they just don't, gosh darnit, get quite enough votes.
Jaxson Gomez
Chilling here in based West Des Moines, where the cops have flat tops and liberal bullshit is stared into silence.
Christian Brown
good job university of iowa. you break student code you get fucked. no exceptions. wanna have your shit group? go to a shit university that allows it. murimutt fauxtians btfo
Cooper Collins
Has nothing to do with good or bad leader. If you ban churches you ban Christians. If you ban gay leaders, that is a restriction on homosexuals by class, which a University can then decide to not respect because of that invidious distinction. Christians are just more dishonest about harming other classes of people than Muslims. Muslims are reasonably open with their prejudices whereas Christians make your life insufferable while telling you they love you.
Luke Morales
Fuck you, Megan. You worthless whore.
Kayden Clark
Think they'd treat this open, loving, inclusive group the same way?
Because individualism is delusion. Humans are tribal animals and your decadent fetish damages the tribal cohesion, hence you need to be excluded and exterminated.
Isaiah Morgan
Good leader gets respect. Majority of the group wouldn't respect faggot. Your generalizations about Christians shows you live in a shell, because I've been to churches were faggots hold hands during the service. Why is it such a hard thing to let people do their thing instead of FORCING it
Carson Lee
>Men sucking dick and ass rape are not Christian principles. At least not the group we are discussing. Their group, their rules. Why do you faggots want to change everything and MAKE everyone accept you? It will never happen. Yep.
Samuel Butler
Why didn't the fag create his own LGBTP bugchaser group? Makes more sense than trying to LARP as a Christian, since trying to mix the bible and faggots is like oil and water. But then again, shutting the group down was the whole objective anyways. At least they aren't trying to decriminalize transmitting AIDS to unknowing participants.
Angel Butler
hey WDM bro. I've got friends over there.
Ryder James
A pastor in Jacksonville, Florida doesn’t think restaurant patrons should have to be served by gay waitstaff and is offering tips to his congregation on how to avoid interactions with homosexuals in public.
Stedfast Baptist Church preacher Adam Fannin was delivering a sermon over the weekend that explained his process if he discovers that his waiter is a “flaming foo-foo fruit loop.”
“I’m here to have date night, enjoy some time with my wife, and I can’t because of the lisps,” he says to a chuckling crowd.
“If you don’t just get up and leave, my recommendation is to just don’t order anything,” Fannin suggests. “You sit there patiently and you look around, and you will find a lady that looks like a mom, that looks like a very diligent worker.”
Fannin recommends finding a waitress “that’s busy, that’s doing stuff” and to ask them to come serve you instead.
THE Namibian government's stance on gay marriage is set to be tested in court after a married same-sex couple this week launched legal action in a bid to have their marriage and residence rights recognised in Namibia.
An urgent application in which married couple Johann Potgieter and Daniel Digashu are suing the government, the minister of home affairs and immigration, the attorney general, the Immigration Selection
Board, the Immigration Tribunal, and the Ombudsman was filed at the Windhoek High Court on Tuesday.
With all of the respondents except for the Ombudsman having indicated that they would be opposing the application, judge Hannelie Prinsloo yesterday postponed the hearing of the matter to tomorrow.
Digashu and Potgieter, who were married in South Africa in August 2015, are asking the court to issue an interdict that would stop the government, the minister of home affairs, and the immigration authorities from treating Digashu and his and Potgieter's son as prohibited immigrants in Namibia. They are also asking the court to order the minister to issue a certificate of identity to Digashu.
Such a certificate would enable Digashu, who is a South African citizen, to leave Namibia and again enter and reside in the country without having to apply for a work or permanent residence permit.
Kayden Bell
>University of Iowa BANS Christian Club (that was breaking school rules)
At least five attorneys have submitted their names as possible replacements for a Kentucky judge who announced his resignation after declaring his conscientious objection to handling adoption cases involving gay and lesbian adults.
The Glasgow Daily Times reports a judicial nominating commission for the 43rd Circuit meets Dec. 20 to review information from those interested in the position currently held by W. Mitchell Nance, whose resignation takes effect Saturday.
The panel will send three names on to Gov. Matt Bevin, who will choose one to serve as an interim judge for Barren and Metcalfe counties.
Voters will decide in the 2018 general election who will finish the last half of Nance's eight-year term.
Nance announced his resignation in an effort to end a disciplinary case against him stemming from his objections to handling same-sex adoption cases.
In 2015, shortly after the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage throughout the country, Rowan County clerk Kim Davis denied Kentucky resident David Ermold and his partner of 19 years their legal marriage license because of "God's authority."
Now, two years after Davis went to jail for civil contempt for her denial of marriage licenses to same-sex couples and her testimony that same-sex marriage is "not of God," Davis is facing Ermold once again, but this time as his opponent in 2018 race for the position of country clerk. That's right — despite her notoriety and the headlining making news of her earlier case, Davis didn't actually lose her job as county clerk. She has continued to be a vocal advocate against human rights for gay people, even traveling to Romania to make the case against legalizing gay marriage.
Ian Martin
That has the courage to stand for their beliefs. They knew the consequences. They said 'fuck it, we'd rather be banned than be forced to have a faggot in leadership position.
Brayden Sullivan
enough copypasta faggot jesus fuck.......
Ryder Adams
ppfffftahahahahaha
Jayden Davis
source? you are deducting what they cost the taxpayer
Cameron Kelly
If you want to be accepted, keep your gay identity within your own home. Being gay isn't a virtue based on which you should be entitled to anything.
Sebastian Perry
At the Iowa Memorial Union.
Lincoln Williams
>flaming foo-foo fruit loop Kek
Owen Carter
bump
Carter Murphy
>fags are perplexed why they couldn't be a leader of a Christian group Let me help you
Leviticus 18:22 >Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 >If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Romans 1:26-28 >For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: >And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. >And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Mark 10:6-9 >But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. >For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; >And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. >What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Sodomites will burn.
Asher Hughes
In the small town I grew up, there were two murders in a 3 year span. yes, Iowa, the 'pride' state. Wanna guess details? Both were dudes bashing the skulls of faggots. Based Iowa.
Aiden Young
>fuck it, we'd rather be banned than be forced to have a faggot in leadership position Why didn’t they just conspire and jew him out of the position? >oh too bad mister faggot, someone had more votes I mean it can’t be that hard, were he to get elected anyway the group isn’t worth saving.
Brayden Baker
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Isaiah Moore
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Ian Ortiz
Cedar rapids user here. The tomato thing was pretty funny you have to admit... but yeah ic is full of sjw fags. I was at some house party and said someone was retarded & some sjw told me im not allowed to say that. I stopped what i was doing walked up to her and got right in her face... >fuck off no one tells me what i can and cant say learn ur place you little bitch.
I was about 8 beers into the night but still... people need to stand up to these fucks or theyll walk all over you.
Joshua Mitchell
I wish I could ban all gays
Michael Morris
So? People shouldn't be forced to pay you and support your life. If they don't want gay people around, they shouldn't be forced to pay gay people's wages.
No one is stopping you from firing white men, or preventing you from excluding them in the same way (let's say you only wave down black waiters/waitresses). No one would stop you if you did that.
The only time such an act is criminal is when a white male does it, which is discrimination pure and simple.
>being part of a Christian group that isn't entirely within the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod enjoy going to Hell for syncretism >wanting state recognition >implying the state won't meddle
Lincoln Davis
faggot, stop with the copy pasta 'facts' bullshit.
Otherwise I'm gonna have to get in my folder of mudslimes killing faggots, k?>
>153233809 My 'guess' here is that there were a lot of arguments in the group about that policy. It may have been something that possibly was bringing the group down. And I'll also guess that faggot was getting no support for leadership position from anyone in the group. So he had to cry about his feels getting hurt and seek revenge.
>archive.is/1iwE5 >Refuse right to make anti-gay cakes >On the other hand, Christian baker has to make pro-gay cakes
Really makes you think. You aren't disproving my point, simply making it clear that there is no logical argument to change your mind - only violence will stop your slow march over other people's rights.
Gabriel Rogers
Good luck with that!
Brayden Davis
he was: he is a fag therefore not possible to be their leader
please let's laugh when someone forces you to have neo-nazi leader
or when you are able to force a faggot on a Muslim student group
Henry Wilson
hey corridor user bro! I love IC, don't get me wrong, I was at the Trump speech when the tomato went flying. The dude who threw it is a total loser/degenerate/druggie. Heard he move to Colorado and got busted. I don't do a very good job either of being hush hush. I asked the jew girl at the coffee shop if she believed 'The Protocols....'
Ian James
So if Muslims are held to the same standards you are okay with this?
Carson Butler
Oh, I am gay, but I find you absolutely detestable. Your choices to follow through with your cravings as opposed to the biological imperative of procreation is totally fine, but forcing other people to pay you is not cool. If people don't want you around, they shouldn't be forced to keep you around.
I mean, don't you wanna punch nazis, fag? Exactly. You wouldn't want them around running your life, so put yourself in their shoes and respect that same viewpoint. Otherwise, you just make people angrier, and more willing to do heinous actions.
Personally, I would give up homosexuality if you turned off electricity and running water. Butt-sex isn't that much of a turn on when it's guaranteed to kill you with infections.
Austin Adams
Can I lead the Jewish Students Union if I'm a Nazi?
Ian Evans
Are you also Jewish?
Kevin Long
got my vote!
Why does he have to be a kike? Maybe he just 'identifies' as one?
Jackson Stewart
because at some point you have to stand for your principles
Caleb Powell
Because it is a Jewish student group. Political beliefs are not a protected class and no University policy, that I know of, explicitly protects fascistic beliefs. If your belief is that everyone else who is not like you deserves violence and discrimination, why should you be protected by laws created by people you want to kill?
Aiden Lewis
Can't you faggots just let people practice their religion?
Connor Bailey
answer me this, cum sucker.....
why, just because one person gets their feelings hurt, do they have to fuck things up for everyone else?
Kayden Edwards
Also to spin it differently if someone is gay that doesn't mean that they hate Christians and want them dead. If someone is a Nazi it means they hate Jews and want them dead. That is a case where individual beliefs and group identity are thoroughly enmeshed. I doubt that would ever happen in real life either.
Justin Reyes
If you had a neo-nazi run for your group leader, you could preclude him from running because he's not some protected group. If a Christian was running for your group, and he wasn't gay, you could probably still stop him by saying he's not allowed to run due to not being a member of the LGBT community. However, a Christian or Muslim isn't allowed the choice to prevent a "gay Christian/Muslim" from running. It's a one way street, and that's not exactly fair and equitable, and it certainly doesn't enforce "equality of outcomes" that all the schools are raging about these days.
Ryder Davis
Because it isn't just one person getting hurt and you don't have the right to hurt people just because they are few in number.
James Parker
Your beliefs as a whole ARE a protected class, no matter what that entails - as long as you do not commit a physical, actionable crime or offense.
Brody Clark
Political beliefs are not included in University of Iowa's charter as a group to be protected. Why protect people who inherently want to harm others?
Grayson Hill
no, I'm just pointing out that you won't even go there
also I want to be your LGBT group leader, I love Adolf
James Anderson
You don't have the right to NOT be offended
Xavier Perry
Calling for the death of the Jews is an incitation of direct violence.
Easton Hughes
No I would agree that Muslims should be held to these same standards.
100% agree you cannot restrict speech, only conduct.
James Flores
But you have the right to hurt people because their few in number? Because they don't fight back? They aren't a protected group? Because it's just an idea, and not a "people?"
