America is a capitalist free mark-

>America is a capitalist free mark-

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Please explain what these stacks of papers have to do with capitalism, I don't understand what you are getting at.

Left stack: 1960's amount of regulations
Right stack: today's amount

Regulations means inflated government which means a lesser free economy.

Damn... all of those shit laws.

I like pizza with pepperonni

Obonga likes hotdogs and cheese pizza.

it will be under trump!

weve got an infidel on our hands anons

>regulation is socialism
Stupid snake, shoo!

>relative piles of paper mean things because i don't have a brain
If you think today's economy is more restricted than it was in the Sixties oh that's right we've already covered the fact that you don't have a brain.

None of them are laws
These are just regulations put out by the executive branch.
Well, maybe the occasional law created a regulation that could be removed by the administration, but that's rare.

Nah it is just stupid and a good indicator of corporatism.

Free market is code for screw workers rights

>ad hom
Not an argument.

Not socialism, but cronyism that cripples the free-market.

Not an argument.

>OH BOY DA BAPERZ ON DA RITE R BIGGUR DAN DA ONEZ ON DA LEFT OOOOWEEEEE

The small stack is how many regulations there were pre-1960s, the big stack is how many there are today.
Trump got rid of all the today regulations and brought it back to that tiny amount. Feels good man
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/14/trump-promises-reduce-federal-regulations-pre-1960-level/953072001/
Though I want to fix immigration more than anything

I was waiting for an argument. I was disappointed.

It's just a promise, nothing is gone as of yet. He wants to shrink it bigly back to the 60s in the next year.

This year was 22 old regulations for 1.

Not an argument.

If I'm forced to particpate in a market, how can it be free? And before you say just leave. That cost money.

Yeah screw em. If you bust your employers balls then he’ll just hire a bunch of Mexicans. Baka

I'd argue that you're not forced into the market because it's more like a natural thing to humans. The "market" is literally free and voluntary transactions, be it mediated by favours, cash or any other thing.

You can't. I have pondered this problem over and over. You have two main issues.
1. No land exists without a form of government that lays claim to it and only two nations exist outside of the UN/ World bank/NWO bullshit, North korea and I think iran is nto part of the world bank. Cuba isn't but its part of the UN.
So you really don't have a country that isn't part of this bullshit to run too. No new land, no new world. Your ancestors where lucky. They had an entire continent to go to. They (although it was illegal) could go for miles into the US and homestead anywhere with little to no repercussion.
2. Everything is manufactured using the monetary system. Even if you where to barter, the price of goods is set in the dollar which is devalued every day. You would find yourself every day trading more for less because those goods are valued and devalued in the dollar. Only gold and silver are immune but good luck trading that.
You can reduce your attachment to society but you can't remove yourself. You can flee into the wilderness but someday a dnr officer or some form of government will drag you back.
Every day I think about it. If i could step through a door, find a new earth, the exact same but without people with no chance of return I would step through in a heart beat. I have no freedom and I must scream.

Just because the stacks of papers are higher doesn't exactly mean that there are that many more regulations.

Yes, there are definitely more, but that image doesn't take into account a lot of factors. The biggest factor being, bureaucracy. A lot of those big stacks are a lot of legal shit included, in comparison to the 60s.

Eugene McCarthy said, "The only thing saving us from the bureaucracy is it's inefficiency."

This was correct in his time. Computers have created an immense amount of efficiency to where it's catching up and taken over.


That being said, I'm willing to bet half of that stack is Obamacare bullshit.

>claiming the opposite of the factual truth
Sad.

>There are rules and I hate rules
Libertarians are the edgy teens of economics.

half of the YUGE stack is pages that say "this page intentionally left blank"

Less economic rules benefit the richest people. I'll give everyone praising this the benefit of the doubt that they are among them.

In addition to that, there are more things the government has to be involved in.

In the 60s, there was radio, TV, much smaller air, much less industry. So many new industries have popped up since then, and not all of the regulations are restrictions, they are more like guidelines.

With 10x as many industries that the government unfortunately has to be involved in, there will easily be 10x as many papers.

Now, the argument here is that regulation = restriction. That is not always true either, the government has to have it's own policies in place, and some of them even restrict the government.

tl;dr Picture is misleading, it's bad but not as bad as it's made out to be.

what is wrong with that amount of regulations?

serious question

He made his staff photocopy and stack all that.

Enjoy your 20 trillion dollar national debt.

Obviously the picture is just symbolical, but it gives a nice visual idea on how much the government has grown.

Also I agree with you, obviously there are those guidelines in there (Trump even said on his address on the subject that there are benefical regulations mixed inbetween), but I still believe most of that are burdens to the free enterprise, with tons of bureocracy which cripples startups, for example.

Lol no. Why would the rich, who essentially write the laws through lobbying and bribery, make laws that don't benefit them?

Look at Obamacare the real winners when that passed were insurance companies, Instead of controlling the outrageous prices of medical care they just said fuck it everyone has to have insurance. How about student loans. Which artificially increase the price of college to something that no one can afford so that everyone needs to pay interest on debt to go to school.

Also the rich have ways of avoiding taxes through legal loopholes they create through lobbying.

I can give this ancient senator, who will win his sheeple state, 2 million dollars to his campaign and he will vote for policies that make me a 6 million dollar profit.


Less economic rules benefit the rich a lot more in the United States because all the rules are rigged to benefit the rich

Enjoy your massive income inequality.

Burn them all

Pretty sure he just forced yeb to do it

Under socialism workers have no right to begin with

you are a slave and if you refuse to work (manual labour even if you are smart) you will be punished, imprisoned or send to gulag.

>income inequality
aka those who contribute to society are justly rewarded and those who do not don't get rewarded for being parasites

>thinks libertarians created the current income inequality

They use regulations to destroy competition. Essentially they took the free economy and tied it's hands- put on cement shoes and tossed it into the water. Trump is literally coming in just before it drowns.

>be trust fund babby
>be rich simply for coming out the right vagina
>not a parasite

how many pieces of paper is that?

*sips lead contaminated water*
i agree fuck regulations. now if you will excuse me i have to go put out a fire my tv started before i pass out from the burning garbage fumes that have clouded over my town.

>Trump is literally leveraging every aspect of it's flawed system that he can so he and his family/croneys can turn a quick buck..
Tidied that up for you m8 so you can defend it.

God damn

>rich are rich because they're luck
>muh zero-sum game
High intelligent and productive people creates wealth.

The parents worked hard enough that they had extra money. If the kid himself doesn't also work then the money will run out and the problem will have corrected itself

You do realize America used to have a centrally planned economy.... right?

Have you perhaps considered that those regualtions prevent oh i dont know, monopolies perchance?

>aka those who contribute to society are justly rewarded and those who do not don't get rewarded for being parasites
>all you have to do is work hard

... by propping a giant monopoly called the state. Brilliant!

Honestly I didn't know. I'd love to read about it, do you have a source?

Not in a rigged legal system

Trump is using laws to increase his capital and fuck small business at the same time.

You guys need to deregulate more, your children aren't consuming enough mercury in their drinking water

Do you actually believe what you typed? Corporations hate regulation.

People have this idea that a meritocracy is somehow based on how hard you work, which it isn't.
Meritocracy is based on your ability (or as per its namesake, merit),working hard simply allows you to achieve more for said ability.

If I train/work twice as hard as Usain Bolt but he still blows me the fuck out, do I deserve the gold because I put in more hours than he did?

That is a big ass stack of motherfucking paper.

Free market refers to the business have the ability to do whatever they want with their business as long as it doesn't impede on other people's rights. For example: I can't open a gun store and shoot someone that walks in. However, I can open a gun store and say "No niggers allowed" on the front sign.

It's not about working hard. It's about creating value.

Those who lobby and further consolidate their monopolies through regulations doesn't.

I strongly recommend you watch this series
youtu.be/DoWbm8zUG6Y

No they dont, because large corporations can afford to pay for whatever tests are needed and meet the standards set within regulations, whilst smaller companies and startups cant, destroying them as competition.

Will watch it later. Thanks.

Lol,jerking off onto the homeless.
I was doing this before i came here. HAHAHA

Lucky people create wealth.

They are not their parents and have done nothing to deserve their wealth. You can't make it about productivity, but then suddenly move the goal posts when it comes to their children.

but user I don't care if jews are somewhat hindered by the state in raping our environment for money. it's a better deal for us regular people.

>deserve
Irrelevant
>being given something is parasitical
Nope

>*sips lead contaminated water* i agree fuck regulations. now if you will excuse me i have to go put out a fire my tv started before i pass out from the burning garbage fumes that have clouded over my town.

It's in a businesses best interest to kill their customers riiiiiiight guyz?

So not letting restaurants shit in your food is destructive of small businesses? Us as a society having standards doesn't hurt competition, it streamlines it by shooting down the bad ideas before they waste space.

>Lucky people create wealth.
Elaborate how you think that's the case

Parasite:

>an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.

>a person who habitually relies on or exploits others and gives nothing in return.

Sounds very much like a trust fund babby to me.

Go to Slab City in California. As it stands, with your current posessions, you can make it over there if you sell your stuff; it is an area with absolutely no regulation. Most people who live there are welfare leeches, but feel free to attempt agriculture and form an actuallt free living if you like. Just expect people to want some of your stuff - they're Anarcho-Communists, after all.

If you don't think cutting corners to maxi use profits doesn't still occur, you're just brain danged. Capitalism requires government because without courts there is now way to enforce contracts. That's why we even have the supreme court; it has nothing g to do with actual constitution and everything to do with a consistent interpretation of law so that contracts can be enforced and acted upon in good faith

We must cut regulation

I'd bet good money that most if not all of that paper on the right is blank, and the volume was just randomly selected when Trump declared it had to be 'the biggest ever.'

>gives nothing in return.
Even the most spiteful little shits would be giving me something in return, they would be acting as a vehicle for my genes

See first phrase

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Let me guess - the lead in the water in Flint was fake news?

you want to imply that every regulation is "shit in your food" tier.
most food industry regulations are about paying gub to inspect your space so that they can tell you how to then spend more money on useless shit.
my mate bought a cafe last year. had the gub in to inspect the place before he bought it. it was up to code. they come in after he bought it and now he needs to get 12k work done. exactly the same space, nothing changed. so immediately hes 12k away from his business plan.

My god the ancaps are going to have a bonfire tonight

even huffpo admits that the Flint water issue is hands down gub cronyism

Yeah man, nobody was edgier than Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk, also known by his screen-name xXx_tym3_pr3ferenz_dem0n_xXx

Can you retards post the fucking video when you have a cool image like that in the op please!!!!

Trump should light it on fire.

youtube.com/watch?v=J72Ad2r7Asg

Stupid nigger thinks laws are freedom, my my what a brainwashed commie faggot

thanks chief

>Stealing bottled milk from babies is a bad thing

Unless the child's mother died in childbirth and the father can't afford a nurse/nanny, there's a very real utilitarian argument in favour of that.

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>monopolies
a monopoly can only exist in an environment where monopolies can grow, aka a large state.

holy shit. I really have to stop using this board. I can't stand you idiots much longer.

here's better pic of that bud