During World War II, Japanese leaders told residents of the island of Okinawa that American soldiers would eat them and their babies if America captured the island. As a result, thousands of Okinawans fought to the death or took their own life rather than face capture.
Of course the claim was untrue, but such is the power of propaganda to manipulate the masses into doing your bidding, whether it’s defending an island to the death...
...or giving control of the internet to politicians and bureaucrats.
Watching people lose their minds on social media today after the FCC voted to repeal the so-called net neutrality regulations was a sad reminder that government propaganda remains the best way to control the populace. Like the bogus cannibal American soldiers, the net neutrality repeal is a fake boogeyman so wrapped up in hyperbole that its detractors honestly believe it will lead to the collapse of the internet if not society itself.
Yet one need only look back to 2014 to realize it’s a total falsehood. Before net neutrality took effect in 2015, the internet was in no way broken. It was a bastion of free information. ISPs weren’t engaging in the behavior that the new regulations were written to protect us from, prices were dropping, new applications and services were emerging daily.
And President Obama’s own FCC commisioners recommended against applying Title II regulation to ISPs, believing the 1934 regulations would be detrimental to the modern and rapidly evolving technology of the internet. But, in a saavy political move, the president publicly announced that he wanted the Title II regulations “in order to protect Americans from big internet bandwidth providers controlling internet content” via throttling or blocking. The notion that hated ISPs like Comcast might somehow censor or slow our internet experience so terrified many voters that they virtually begged the government to take over the internet.
Grayson Ross
And they are still so obsessed with that fear over a non-existent problem that the public has reacted to word of net neutrality’s repeal with truly unbelievable claims of the disasters it will cause.
Feminist Sandra Fluke: Killing Net Neutrality would kill access to abortion information... There is no reproductive freedom without Net Neutrality.
The New York Times: The Internet Is Dying. Repealing Net Neutrality Hastens That Death
Mike Caufield, director, Washington State University Vancouver: Killing net neutrality will throw us back to the Dark Ages
GLAAD: The repeal of Net Neutrality is an attack on the LGBTQ community
Wired: Expect Fewer Great Startups if the FCC Kills Net Neutrality
Rolling Stone: Repeal Could Kill the Careers of Indie Musicians
The Verge: Ending net neutrality would contribute to inequality of education and opportunity and could threaten the basic foundation of American democracy.
Landon Hill
didn't your country elect your leader because he was attractive
Noah Anderson
And that’s just the media and other organizations. Read through your Facebook news feed today if you want more insane hyperbole from friends and family. And coming next week: Many of the same people begging the government to regulate the internet will be pleading with the government not to let them keep more of their own pay check, and saying tax cuts will threaten the basic foundation of American democracy.
OP is right. As much as I hate the ISP Jews, this whole thing was based on misinformation and propaganda. These people don't actually understand what is being repealed.
Brody Lopez
sorry I copied my sources straight off my facebook page:
Just look at how many people are calling for death threats and want to burn everything to the ground because they think they are going to get censored like conservatives have been for the past few years.
John Cooper
This is Brian Roberts, the jewish billionaire who owns comcast.
As you fags celebrate the repeal of NN, the jewish defamation league and southern poverty law center are compiling lists of advertisers with Verizon and Comcast and organizing a campaign to get alt right websites removed from the internet.
Legally, now that broadband service is under title I instead of title II, ISPs are classified as "information providers" and not "common carriers". IE they are legally responsible for the content they serve over their networks.
Say goodbye to your little alt right movement. LOL and to think you guys are so stupid you were laughing and celebrating just earlier today. Fucking pathetic.
Mason Jenkins
I hate to break this to you friend, but 1 this 1 thread 7 will likely get hidden, anchored, or slid thanks to the actors now working to change and manipulate culture and reality through exploiting the internet. If you need any evidence to support the idea that the repeal was a good idea, you don't have to look any farther than all the apoplectic reactions of the culture-makers. Someone have that Alexa traffic graph for this site? I have a distinct suspicion that the real "influx" started after NN, because it somehow opened the door to some "authorized" manipulation that would not have otherwise occurred. The real threat to the Internet is obviously the Superpowers and all their pervasive surveillance and control. Notice no one at all is talking about any of that. Why do you 1 suppose 1 that 7 is? Is it because, as they claim, people have become altogether supportive of their data being mined, collected, analyzed, and acted upon? Does that sound plausible, or does that sound like a self-fulfilling narrative?
tldr; OP is not a faggot in this one.
Asher Bell
You either fell for it or you're selling it. Which is it, praytell?
>oy goy why weren't you on the site of Google, Netflix, Reddit, and Twitter >they would never censor you goys >oy now you're going to get shut down because i'm larping it >better stand up goys lol
Leo Smith
...
Jaxson Cook
You know how I know this will be slid? You tripped the "effort" algorithm. You posted too much information in too coherent a manner, and that sets the alarms off. People need to know that what happens here is like a Russian doll, the outer layers of which contain things like NN. But, just like the Russian doll, there are many hidden things operating all at the same time. I bet this thread gets pruned, actually. You should have posted it with a BBC. I think that confuses it.
Christian Bailey
Go away shill, porn posting in the OP is a removal.
Jaxon King
>HOW EASY IT IS TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE No matter the subject people are extremely easy to manipulate. Especially "modern" people who have a complete lack of grounding or ideology to guide their path.
You can tell people anything and as long as you say it in the correct way they will believe it.
Hunter Torres
Tell the guys upstairs that. Why do I constantly see BBC on the front page but effort posts slide and slide? I know the reason. It has to do with >(pic related)
Aaron James
I just wonder if people will ever wake up and notice what happened. Everything will be fine in a few years, but will they think back on how enraged they were about this topic in 2017 and will they be pissed off that they were whipped into this frenzy they are currently in?
Nathaniel Fisher
Not as long as the Zeitgeist Machine keeps churning... But then again, I have a feeling 1 some 1 things 7 will change as soon as the new ruling goes into effect. The propaganda campaigns go very deep. I have probably triggered it pretty good by now. We're probably contained.
James Watson
niggers on american bases proved the imperial japanese propaganda was correct all along
Benjamin Wilson
Nice VPN, Russofag.
Andrew Rogers
Fell for it? Selling it? Choose either one or two.
Jeremiah Gray
Just another regulation getting cut.
Angel Wood
>We can trust the corporations. They're our friends. They have our interests at heart. As we get rid of regulation, FREEDOM will fill the void, not despotic corporations.
Grayson Ramirez
>We can trust the bureaucrats. They're our friends. They have our interests at heart. As we create new regulation, FREEDOM will fill the void, not despotic bureaucrats.
Landon Richardson
Now is the time to rub it in. In literally every thread, I will remind them. After a few months they'll realize it was nothingburger and feel stupid, but I won't let them forget their error.
>hey user, can you send me that photo from last night?
>sure, here you go >*blocked by Verizon! Pay $3.88 for upgrade package!*
>user, that is so fucking old, will you shut up about it already and just send me the damn photo?
Bentley Jones
Nice thread leaf. We'll rake you last.
John Cox
>Say goodbye to your little alt right movement Bye!
Gabriel Green
Well put. First time I've saved something posted by a leaf.
I agree leaf, this shit is blown way out of proportion. At most it would hurt small businesses for a small period of time when competition is leveling things out if ISPs decide to throttle access to certain websites.
These people don't fucking understand the concept of competition in a free market. If an ISP were to be a complete dick, they would lose half their users to another ISP willing to provide better service.
Adam Foster
well the american soldiers did rape, a lot
Nicholas Hughes
Soldiers rape. War is hell. Who is surprised?
Lucas Fisher
Nah it's just the contrarian nature of Sup Forums in general. Sup Forums used to be more effortposting oriented because it was an oldfag board full of people that cared about the community and tried to post quality content. Now it's full of cancerous newfags from reddit and twitter and other edgy teens from other boards like Sup Forums who come here to shitpost or who think they're joining some edgy cool kids club that don't give a fuck about this board and need some kind of bait OP that they can argue against with their 1 sentence, 1 post by this ID shitpost before they move onto the next thread to consume more and shit out more half-assed memes, never contributing anything and willfully sliding the very few quality threads that remain here.
Julian Torres
Did you copy and past this from unbiased America on Facebook?
Brayden Morris
soooo that rene guy sais some cool shit somtimes lolol
Brody Bailey
That's some of it. Did you read that long screencap above though? I am utterly convinced through my participation in some other threads that there is a number of influence campaigns, some of them using breddy gud AI, operating on this board. I would guess that the majority of posts at this point are probably not genuine. The door to this was opened with the legislation cited in the big screencap post. Read it. It's utterly terrifying if you think about it. The real question in our minds should be, "why wouldn't they?"
Luke King
you don't know how Sup Forums used to be
Kayden Ortiz
HOW AM I STILL ABLE TO POST HERE?
THIS ISN'T WHAT I VOTED FOR!!!!!
Nolan Ross
Do tell
Jason Cruz
no you don't understand. you're a gigantic retarded faggot you're not "in on" anything other then looking fucking stupid to everyone
no you're not mining salt. you're just a moron who talks to much
Charles Smith
You fucking kike faggot. King Barry's 2015 bill GAVE THEM THE POWER TO OPT OUT OF TITLE II.
Julian Young
On reddit some guy honey potted shills and they clicked instantaneously like milliseconds. They all traced back to AWS and he litterally starting tell them it was honeypot and they still clicked and replied. I am convinces that those reddit shills where part of an AWS shitposting NN.
Leo Scott
I see you motherfucker. Plain as day.
Jacob Watson
Wow. Paper stock sure was a lot thinner in 1960.
Logan Perry
Don't worry user. Nothing is going on. There are no shills. There are no algorithms. It's a free beautiful clear expanse of free expression here, trust me.
Wyatt Parker
Normalfags think NN is going to result in censorship. And the groups pushing this narrative and claiming to be anti-censorship are Facebook, Google, Reddit, etc, who are actually the most pro-censorship companies in existence.
It's all a facade. This is about dot-coms wanting to take advantage of ISPs for unlimited bandwidth usage. Don't believe the jewish lies. For fucks sake, the Pajeet in charge of this whole thing has spoken out against Silicon Valley's censorship of Daily Stormer and other websites, and is using this to give them all the smackdown. He's a street-shitter, but he's actually /ourguy/
Yes and the leaves also voted him in because of DUDE WEED Those cucks deserve what they get.
Jackson Allen
>It's been a few hours and nothing happened, everythings fine! Trump was right again slurp slurp glorp suucccck
Glad you guys had fun with your pepes and your Trump memes while you still could. See where we are in a couple of months :^)
Matthew Bennett
If they block access to the sites I want, I'll subscribe a competitor who doesn't. If no one provides the content I want, I'll just stop using the internet.
This is the problem with all the doomsday scenarios painted by the pro-NN side - they preclude the option to go somewhere else or to just walk away.
Jose Sanders
>Of course the claim was untrue
t. Amerimutt
Brandon Diaz
>Those cucks deserve what they get. Reasonably priced weed?
Aiden Adams
All you have to do is look at who's for it and who's against it to know the truth. The net neutrality regulations repeal was good if feminists and other (((faggots))) are losing their shit over it.
Net neutrality was just a (((trick))) to (((shut us down))) in the guise of helping...because the goyim were starting to know more than Chaim is comfortable with
GLAAD, Sandra Fluke, Rolling Stone, etc. BTFO
Blake Davis
1) C lassified military information or controlled u nclassified information will be approved by the cognizant f oreign disclosure officer in accordance with National Disclosure Policy -1, D oDD 5230.11 , DoDD 5400.11, and DoD 5400.11- R (Reference s ( i), ( j), (k) , and (l) ). Such transfers must also be consistent with DoD policy and procedures for international transfers in DoDI 2040.02 (Reference ( m)). (2) CI materials or handouts will be reviewed and deconflicted in accordance with DoDD 5240.02 (Reference ( n) ). (3) Human intelligence ( HUMINT ) tradecraft -related curriculum, materials , or handouts will be reviewed and coordinated in accordance with Annex B of National HUMINT Manager Directive 007.08 (Reference ( o)) . (4) Defense Cover Program information or materials must be reviewed and approved in accordance with DoD S -5105.63- M (Reference ( p)).
Jayden Lee
If google, youtube, Facebook etc etc are against the repeal, then I’m absolutely for it. They are by far the biggest censors on the Net.
Fuck them
Ethan Murphy
Aws?
Christopher Lewis
this
Anthony Cook
I would kill myself
Oliver King
But they wont so dont even argue against this stupid talking point it just gives it credibility.
Landon James
Exactly. Normally I'm not a fan of using "shortcut logic" by just looking at who supporters each side, but in this case it's so fucking blatant when all the largest proponents of censorship on the internet are pretending to be anti-censorship while also having clear conflicts of interest as far as getting cheap bandwidth under NN. Fuck them, I hope they all lose billions from this.
Justin Hernandez
(a) DoD Directive 5143.01, “Under Secretary of Defen se for Intelligence (USD(I)),” October 24, 2014, as amended (b) DoD Instruction 3305.12, “Intelligence and Counterintel ligence (I&CI) Training of Non- U.S. Persons,” October 25, 2007, as amended (hereby cancelled) (c) DoD Directive 5132.03, “DoD Policy and Respons ibilities Relating to Security Cooperation,” October 24, 2008 (d) DoD Instruction 3115.11, “DoD Intelligence Human Capital Management Operations ,” January 22, 2009, as amended (e) Title 10, U.S. Code (f) Defense S ecurity C ooperation A gency 5105.38- M, “Security Assistance Management Manual,” April , 2012 as amended 1 (g) Secretary of Defense Memorandum, “Implementation of Section 8057, DoD Appropriations Act, 2014 (division C of Public Law 113- 76) (“the DoD Leahy law”),” Aug ust 18, 2014 (h) Secretary of Defense Memorandum, “Additional Guidance on Implementation of Section 8057(b), DoD Appropriations Act, 2014 ( Division C of Public Law 113 -76) (“the DoD Leahy law”) and New or Fundamentally Different Units,” February 10, 2015
Aaron Fisher
Yes that's likely a part of it but i think you're overestimating their presence. Most of it is real people who have been programmed into advancing (((their))) agenda by all the D&C shilling, it's all fun and games to them.
David Adams
the 15 year olds on reddit dont remember the internet before obama
they probably dont even know dial up was a thing
Ryan Nguyen
(i) National Disclosure Policy -1, “ National Policy and Procedures for the Disclosure of Classified Military Information to Foreign Governments and International Organizations,” October 2, 2000 2 (j) DoD Directive 5230.11, “Disclosure of Classified M ilitary Information to For eign Governments and International Organizations,” June 16, 1992 (k) DoD Directive 5400.11, “DoD Privacy Program,” October 29, 2014 (l) DoD 5400.11- R, “Department of Defense Privacy Program,” May 14, 2007 (m) DoD Instruction 2040.02, “International Transfers of Technology, Articles and Services,” March 27, 2014 (n) DoD Directive 5240.02, “Counterintelligence (CI),” March 17, 2015 (o) National HUMINT Manager Directive 007.08, Annex B, “National HUMINT Manager Trad ecraft Training for Foreign Bilateral and Liaison Partners,” November 4, 2008 (p) DoD S -5105.63- M, “DoD Cover and Cover Support Security Classification Guide (SCG) (U),” May 13, 2011, as amended (q) DoD Manual 3115.11, “Intelligence and Security Training Standards,” March 24, 2015 (r) DoD Instruction 3305.02, “DoD General Intelligence Training and Certification ,” August 12, 2015 (s) DoD Instruction 3305.11, “DoD Counterintelligence (CI) Training and Certification ,” August 13, 2015
No, because Internet companies in 2020 will begin to roll out the nickel and diming schemes and we can't do a single thing about it because 96% of Americans have access to 2 or less ISPs. And Sup Forums will be the first site to be added to every ISP's block list
Jonathan James
These DOOM ARE UPON US clickbait articles remind me of Brexit and the US election
NAZIS WILL COME BACK TO LIFE AND ATTACK US IF YOU VOTE LEAVE!!!
Matthew Price
Oh, I know it must be an absolute hoot and holler. Good thing some of us are schizophrenic and suspicious and stuff. Otherwise we would not be able to spot the D&C shills at every appearance.
Gabriel Barnes
Me too.
Nothing would make me happier than for reddit to raped by them and have to shutdown
I’d kek my ass off
Jaxson Brown
You mean how all that happened before NN? I’m dreading it
Gavin Bell
Did I miss something here? I don't get the whole hate everyone mentality, but don't the supposed "kikes' benefit insanely from a collapse in consumer protections with the absense of Net Neutrality. You fuck the libs and fems but the jews are the ones doing it while still fucking you as well. Sounds like a pyyrhic victory if it can be considered event that.
Jason Torres
Chaim Nosenstein, Senior Editor at Schmuck Magazine: Oy Vey, it's like anuddah Shoah! 6 gorillion transgender black babies will go without proper medical care if you fucking goyim do this!
Christian Richardson
All I'm going to say about this repeal is that the proof is in the pudding. Tim Poole made the observation that the MSM has to dance to whatever tune we make up. With IOTBW, they called the message racist only because it came from here. Effectively, they ceded control of the narrative. With that in mind, I'm just going to say that they wouldn't let something like this place hang around for too long. Thus, if we're all still here at the end of say 60 days, I'm calling BS on the whole NN argument. Reality doesn't lie like people do.
Jace Scott
>and we can't do a single thing about it We can walk away.
I love Sup Forums and I love being able to game and watch movies online, but I'm not going to get scammed by an ISP solely because of the ludicrous notion that I "need" the internet. If they don't want my business, fine.
Jace Turner
>Sigh.
Chase Price
I'd argue that it wouldn't be in their interests to gouge their customers regardless. Piss enough people off and a start-up will come along to outjew the pre-existing jews.
Blake Rogers
>mentally ill individuals who use identity politics are in favor of X. Time to do the complete opposite of X. It's very easy.
Luke Watson
Right wing thought is getting censored left and right regardless of Net Neutrality. It's hardly even a Pyrrhic victory. It's more like you're a Palestinian who will get blown up by jews no matter what happens, so you might as well fuck with the kikes in any way you can.
Aaron Johnson
To a lawyer, nothing beats a good game of law.
It stands to reason: law is the game lawyers are trained to play. In law school, the pedagogic emphasis is on “learning to think like a lawyer,” and law students quickly come to understand that law and justice are two quite different things: the law is about rules and precedents, and the careful parsing of words and phrases. Often, the law is precisely what the International Criminal Tribunal’s Appeals Chamber said it shouldn’t be: “the product or slave of logic or intellectual hair-splitting.”
“Justice” is a far messier and more dangerous concept: mention justice, and emotions quickly start running high. This gives lawyers even more incentive to stick to law.
When lawyers talk about war, they like to talk about “armed conflict,” the legal distinctions between international and noninternational armed conflicts, and the legislative definition of “traditional military activities.” Lawyers like to talk about “collateral damage” and “proportionality” and “incidental harm,” and debate the quantum of activity that constitutes “direct participation in hostilities.” To buttress their arguments, lawyers cite other lawyers and legal scholars and judges. They argue by syllogism and analogy, citing past cases and commentaries to prove that the concept of co-belligerency can be mapped onto the newer notion of “associated forces,” or that the newly articulated “unwilling or unable” doctrine merely restates older rules about neutrality. cryptome.org/2016/09/game-war-v-game-life.htm
Gavin Harris
It's still retarded because you are still giving more power to your (((ISP))) and your (((goverment))) just to spite someone you don't like.
Daniel Smith
Or people will find something better to spend their money on.
Lucas Hughes
not really
the only reason people care is because jewgle said they would be coming after our porn
Jackson Powell
They're monopolies because of draconian laws that forbide anyone building infrastructure in their backyards, start-ups won't just appear because muh free market, either way, people are already pissed off, if (((they))) behave moderately in their approach towards rising the prices no one will notice or care, they'll just say it's because of the bandwidth usage.
Easton Perez
>to your (((ISP))) and your (((goverment))) Only to one of them. It's either the government with NN or the ISPs without it.
Christopher Cook
bot, is obviously fake
Henry Flores
>Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating most of the Internet must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication. Gov and ISP, i don't know if the usa nn rules applies by this definition, but that's what NN it's about, just because it's a regulation doesn't mean the goverment has control over the internet.
Nathaniel Ross
>just because it's a regulation doesn't mean the goverment has control over the internet.
That's their long term goal, to shut down non kosher internet sites
Isaac Hall
like what?
Chase Collins
Net Neutrality =/= net neutrality anymore than the Patriot Act == patriotism
Just because the people who authored that godawful 300 page abomination were savvy enough to give it a marketable name doesn't mean the bill has anything to do with the concept
Robert Lopez
>Just because the people who authored that godawful 300 page abomination were savvy enough to give it a marketable name doesn't mean the bill has anything to do with the concept
this.
Jack Cook
Ok, still, your goverment doesn't gain anything by staying with or repealing net neutrality, NN is no more a plan to regulate the Internet than the First Amendment is a plan to regulate free speech. They both stand for the same concept.
Zachary Carter
You don't need 300 pages of some of the broadest, vaguest, most overreaching regulatory law in the last decade and a half years to enforce network neutrality. De facto enforcement via a free market worked just fucking fine for the last 25 years.
