What is, fundamentally, the allure of communism?

What is, fundamentally, the allure of communism?

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Unearned wealth and unaccountability

Free gibs

Utopian society free of the imagined oppression and inequality which supposedly plagues modern society.

Freedom to express yourself and pursue your true dreams in life without worry of your very survival being predicated on monetary value that some fat jew porky decides you're worth.

That's a man

free shit and no work

Doesn't matter to me

Communism isn't the only alternative to capitalism.

>freedom to sit around and smoke pot and be unproductive while everyone pays you to exist.

Fixed it for you faggurt.

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Fascism is too authoritarian. There are forms of communism without authoritarianism.

Have fun serving the Jew porky capitalist.

I think the historical materialism thing is kind of interesting, at least as a mental exercise.

It's easy for low level intellectuals to accept communism because it gives them easy explanation for every bad thing happening to them or people around them.
Suddenly they have a magical fix for every single problem.

post moar of this trashy qt

Yup, confirms my explanation.

>BOOHOO I can't do anything because capitalism.

Fucking grow up and stop making excuses.

people with no self worth and life skills hatch on to it like a fly sticks to shit. it's a orthles ideology for worthless people.
also, degenerates think that they'd be equal under communism, but they'd (rightly so) be the first ones thrown into a prison. so yes, it does have a good side as well.

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SP... Also good.

>there are forms of communism without authoritarianism
>being this deluded

Most likely bait, dont forget to sage

>What is, fundamentally, the allure of communism?
Is it the pretty girls ?

The equal sharing of misery. Outside of that, not a damned thing.

who is she and can i fap

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The SJW losers get a cool symbol to tattoo.

All the other ways to rebel against Dad are done.

Plus it appeals to lazy whiny "alt-sex" BPD faggots to get likes on Tumblebook.

Shut up, cunt.

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>being current year
>not knowing August

Fundamentally misunderstanding human nature.

These retards need to read the Gulag Archipelago.

I AM the jew porky capitalist, and it is amazing.

Now take your buttplugs and bongs and get the FUCK OFF MY BOARD!

Pity

What kind of dreams could you have in communism?
Other than leaving the country?

Miracles are possible, as well as atrocities. But no money means a healthy human spirit.

Vengence against the elite. Sadly elite is not stupid enough to get mulched by a horde of commies.

another question is, what fundamental assumption does communism make?

it makes the assumption that something (resources and ideas) comes from nothing, (ongoing physical and neurological processes) which is why its ideologically tied to evolution

"mysterious force of gravity produces stars->energy of stars mysterious produces biochemical order from raw materials, which also appeared from nowhere->intelligence forms->this processes continues to utopia and beyond with no explanation or origin"

it's appealing to people that I don't fully understand, but I assume the critical factor is willful ignorance, or some other invisible factor that makes people stop asking difficult questions

Free shit.
It's not really hard to see why it would have a certain allure to fucking losers who accepted that they'll never amount to anything in life unless they steal from others. Welfare is the entry level drug for them.

There has never been real allure to communist, all communist states have born mostly from the utter failure of it's predecessor, not from the communist ideal itself.

>tfw gf is commie
>but she's attractive
>has fat ass
>but i have hidden my powerlevel for almost a year
I just want to find a conservative gf bois

where are all these new images of augustwest coming from? she got a new social media account or something?

a misunderstanding of the words equality and equity as well as , in general, a desire for everyone to have a measure of dignity and power over their own lives.

these kids arent evil just misguided (some are evil)

Wishful thinking
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Desire to get high social status by being an early adopter of the new social order

Different for different people

Idealist young white person? They honestly just want everyone to have a nice life and nobody to suffer and be poor. And they think communism is the way to do it because they're retarded

The subversive jews who pushed it in the 20th century? Ressentiment, plain and simple. They didn't like the fact that there were beautiful, strong, wealthy people, and they came up with a way to take everything from them. The absolute viciousness and cruelty with which communists treated traditional sources of authority reeks of self-loathing

Have fun convincing everyone else to serve you.

>what fundamental assumption does communism make?
That people are going to perform difficult or dangerous tasks without proper compensation for it. I do my current job because it's paying extremely well, but it is also quite taxing. If they took away the advantage of extra shekels I'd tell them to go fuck themselves and switch to a job that leaves me with more free time and is more relaxing.

It just ignores fundamental aspects of human psychology.

People itt have explained why young people like communism but not old soviet fucks

From talking to them it seems they do not understand inflation also exists in western countries. They also think America was entire responsible for the USSR collapsing and not that giving free shit to everyone for decades is obviously not sustainable

Overall it really boils down to the same reason. They want free gibs

most of them I know personally are quite evil. they start off with their
>I just want everyone to be able to live their life in dignity
shtick but if you dig a bit deeper they have an insane hatred for successful people below the surface. Or maybe just a lot of self-hatred that they project onto other people.

the ones that aren't filled with hate usually go for social democracy with welfare and shit.

If you view the relationship of worker and employer as a 1:1 ratio then communism let's you feel like you(the worker) are doing all the work and he's getting all the rewards and under communism you'll get some of his stuff.
In reality the working class are doing the bulk of the work but their numbers are 100:1 with their boss and the sharing after the revolution won't be as fancy as each individual believes.

When it was written Communism was a much needed perspective on class relations, economic and politics. What it fails at today is that Capitalism/Democracy has made concessions enough to temper the issues that gave rise to such thought.

>imagined oppresion
>fash flag

You think that you will get your bosses car for free. While IRL some hobo will get your car and half of your house

The illusion of equality and public
ownership of state powers. It's
completely delusional.

>freedom to sit around and smoke pot and be unproductive while everyone pays you to exist
>american flag

Promising stupid people an equal share of the pie.

excuse me, keynesian economics are often referred to as communist on Sup Forums

commie and nazi have lost all meaning due to overuse.

Yes, pure Leninist determined communists would have to have some sort of massive morale failure.

Not having to be responsible for yourself or your failures.

Free shit without responsibility.

>be artist
>practice painting in your freetime
>commie overlords shove you in a factory 12 hours a day

thanks marx

Free stuff.

Is it me or does she kind of look like bobby budnick?

dimwits want a piece of the technological progress pie but are unable to learn to code -> """social science"""

>communism
>freedom

It is a geometrical ideology. Everything is equal, common and even, so everything stays in its place

The truth is of course that communism serves anger and malice. The devil is behind communism

>being a godless commie
Hell is for ever!

everyone knows commies in the west in [current year] don't actually exist. they're just heavy socialists who chose a meme degree and smoke weed all day.

none of them work labour lmao how are they meant to start a revolution and run the means of production with no workers lmao

especially im america; you think the feds would ever let a revolution happen? the (((elites))) don't want communism, they want globalism and socialism for the middle and lower classes, and "government regulated" capitalism for themselves (ie monopolies). which was the current trajectory before trump got in office.

That depends entirely on the type of communist. The ones you see in the west are attracted by the eqelitarianism, but many more nationalistic elements like nazbols and the vietcong saw and see it as a way to establish sovegreinity from US influence.

This. It's a system that justifies women's uselessness and their parasitic nature. It allows weak men to be women, by making it so that their uselessness is rewarded just like women all these years.

I would hate fuck her so hard... Too bad I don't live in the US.

Resentment.

free stuff someone else pays for
too bad the people who want free stuff will be FORCED to work to produce this " free stuff "

What a nonsense. Most communists come from the intellectual and well to do class. Communism was always a movement of writers, students, officers, teachers, actors etc

The best interpretation of Hegelian dialectics.

too the middle and upper middle class being the masters of low class doing (good)things,being benefolent dictators,that how manifest their will for power

You mean....
Freedom to starve to death because the
state who is totally fucking inept at basic
civil planning stole everything your farm
produces and the 1 community cow your
village is allowed to have?

Being born into that doesn't stop them being unsuccessful achievers who are bitter at the 1% who are doing better than they are. But I agree it's pathetic.

Statists are born slaves and want to be told what to do every minute of their lives. You also have nosy, busybody scum that would love to spy on their neighbours, and get them sent to Gulag. Lots of church and community groups do this today, as well as creepy Masons. Psychopathic people, comparing notes behind your back.

They believe in the perfectibility of man, that’s why they call it progress.

The right believes man is a fallen creature, that’s why we push for natural law/tradition

You have to be a literal retard, with zero perspective on objective reality to be allured by communism. Sadly, many people are just that.

>zero perspective on objective reality
>what is dialectical MATERIALISM

long time no see, antifa-fu

>she

It swaps the moral paradigm and makes slaves feel like masters and gives people a false sense of superiority.

It allows someone to convince themselves their desire to control others is actually altruism towards them.

state is the father you never had

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It is an alternative that is supported and pushed by the system.
Schools, media, and corporations have no problem with communism, it isn't a threat to (((them)))

You can be a fat lazy piece of shit and and be entitled to same rewards as someone who works their ass off. But the reality is that everyone starves, apart from the elite

Looks really nice on paper, kills millions upon millions of people in practice

This. Seriously.
It's a regression to child mentality whereby the state supplies you with everything and orders your life for you because you are mentally incapable of doing it yourself.
There's another fundamental pattern here though: losers gravitate towards communism because otherwise they will be treated and seen as they actually are: inferior.
Disguised jealousy.

>Freedom to express yourself and pursue your true dreams in life

Not in a centrally planned economy buddy

who is that?

It's the idea of fairness. That's why it appeals to children. Communism promises to end all poverty and injustice in the world by removing the inequality inherent in natural systems.

>communism
>freedom
You did never lived in a communist country before did you?

Who will clean the toilets?

a communist country has never existed

A sexbot. It's sold out, don't look for it.

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>not wanting to fuck pink

faggot

*blocks your path*