Are birth control pills polluting my water and body a real thing? Or has /fit/ just corrupted my feeble mind?

Are birth control pills polluting my water and body a real thing? Or has /fit/ just corrupted my feeble mind?

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Can't speak from a sense of the bioavailibity of the drugs in those pills to men, taking into account the staggering scale of the water supply, and logically wondering how many of The Pill wind up getting flushed (I seriously don't know anyone that flushes old medication, and not throwing it into the trash) it's just slightly above chem-trials in regards to fooling people with no real science education.

Seriously though, who the fuck flushes pills of any kind?

nobody. the excess hormones are being pissed out by women who take the drugs, and then municipal water recycling is failing to remove the hormones from the water supply

They urinate the hormones out. The idea of putting 15-year-old males, uniformly, on testosterone horrifies people (probably rightfully), even though - objectively - testosterone is massively decreasing in men throughout the west. Make of that what you will.

>doesnt understand how water is processed at plants in the US

>probably rightfully
Then what is the solution, assuming we can't just remove the hormones from the water magically

it's the piss that's the issue. try reading up on shit before talking 100% out of your ass

It is, 100%, having an effect on very sensitive wildlife. The frog study gets hyped, but there is also evidence in some fish.

Amphibians are extremely sensitive to environmental pollutants, so that doesn't necessarily mean that we would be sensitive to the same small doses. But it does bear looking into, and people dismissing it out of hand don't know what they're talking about. We just don't know the effects at this point

And again, it has nothing to do with women flushing pills. It has everything to do with the excess hormones being urinated out by every single woman using hormonal birth control (which is SIXTY TWO PERCENT of reproductive age women)

Well (75% serious here): total civilizational collapse and rebuilding a new society.

hormones don't work that way.

I don't actually, but I could imagine a few possibilities, and even worst case scenario, It's a scale thing, Even if it's a mostly recycled system, there aren't enough BC pills to make an impact.

Increased levels of estrogen can be detected in waste water due to BC pills.
If this is then filtered out somehow is up to your local waste management.

The government-mandated steps listed on the CDC site seem pretty good to me. Assuming your local area is actually complying, it looks fine.
In fact, i don't thunk anyone has ever doubted that the water is clean after being processed; people just have beef that they then add fluoride.

I am a biologist and if you take the time to ask and ecologist with a phd they will tell you that detectable amounts of medications are present in our waters. Maybe read a book before questions other people's scientific literacy you lay person.

Also chem trails are real, read anything about cloud seeding.

>Taking fit seriously
Oh user

It can only be removed by distillation or reverse osmosis.

Both are impossible to implement because of cost and waste generated.

Treated water has already been shown to reduce sperm count in animals.
Even if we ignore the direct effect on humans from this if we look at the fact that it lowers reproduction rates in species that are effected by waste water (which is a huge fucking amount of them) already has implications of food disruption.
Add the fact that it makes it way into the food chain and more directly effects humans chemically which some profs have suggested this may be a factor in low sperm counts in men which has resulted in an increase of surgical fertilization. I dont think theres enough studies to suggest this but it does seem like common sense.
The issue i have with it is that there is very little you can do to avoid it. If its in the water, its in everything.

Totally but that little pill lets me nut in women's cunts freely so I don't mind.

>biologist
>chem trials are real
you have no education in science after middle school
I'm not a fucking expert on all science, but I have a BS in biochem, and a MS in forensic chemisty
It's possible you are completely right, I was just guesstimating about ratios. Biological magnification would be a possibility. I was strictly saying that the very few hormones that are being pissed out, aren't even the kinds that would feminize men. I don't know off hand if they would effect sperm counts, but to be fair, there's the whole correlation doesn't equal causation factor to account for.

>Are birth control pills polluting my water and body a real thing?
Yes. Birth control pills are directly sluttyfying and destroying women, and they are indirectly destroying masculinity and men. Truly the devil's best invention.

Estrogen from BC pills does at least.

>confusing the method for the goal

>there aren't enough BC pills to make an impact.
Oh, you sweet innocent child. The problem has gotten better since the first birth control pill, since those contained thousand times the required estrogen, but even the current pills contain a ton of the stuff. And millions of women take the stuff all the time, year in year out. Water purification hardly filters out any estrogen, so it only gets to accumulate.

The happy water-filter merchant tried to warn you.

>Can't speak from a sense of the bioavailibity of the drugs in those pills to men

Chemist here. The compounds in BC are highly bioavailable to both men and women when ingested orally, 90+%. Ironically testosterone has terrible oral bioavailability, about 5%.

The decline in testosterone and sperm count among Western men isn't really debatable. The numbers have been tanking in the last 50 years. And I can tell you from personal experience - always felt like my T levels weren't that high despite eating well, lifting, zinc, magnesium, vitamin D, etc. Finally had them checked when I was 35. Test was 275. That is not a normal level for a 35 year-old. Taking prescription Clomid now and I'm 600+. I can't tell you the difference this makes in your mindset, ability to deal with stress, exercise, etc.

When you get rid of drugs because of incoming search by cops/parents/RAs

And here I wondered were all the life on other planets went. They took the pill and all life just withered away.

It's legit. Part of why urbanites are all effeminate faggots and soy boys.

>Clomid
Ho does this work? You cut your E instead of injecting T? How long until you felt a difference?

> Taking prescription Clomid now and I'm 600+

Isn't that a fertility drug?
How can it help with T?

>Then what is the solution
Accept your destiny as a qt sexslave to your black masters!

Not sure. I probably absorb them via osmosis. Do steroids cancel them out? I don't know.

Pic related, my gf's BC.

>testosterone is massively decreasing in men

This is probably the loss of manual labor. No one works labor anymore and when they do we have methods of reducing the physical toll in the name of saving the body. We've gone from cavemen to astronauts. How many people ride a cubicle more then they ride a bike.

>Ho does this work? You cut your E instead of injecting T? How long until you felt a difference?

Essentially it inhibits (blocks) estrogenic feedback on the hypothalamus, thus increasing GnRH, FSH, LH release, which sends the message to your testes to increase testosterone production.

Pretty sure it inhibits Estrogen, meaning your testosterone increases via that route.

Alternatively the poster is a fag trying to get you to take female fertility pills

they literally cant get all of it out.

the effect it actually has on humans is hard to say. i would say some but decreasing test levels are mostly due to sedentary livestyles

Are all of these women not taking the pills and then flushing them though? If that were the case, you'd be on to something.
But it comes down to the not the hormones, but the metabolites of estrogen and progesterone which have little to no bioavailability, not to mention what they even do in the body, which I don't even know to be honest, but I'd wager, not what they are supposed to. Just to be clear, I'm arguing that there's not enough pills to make a difference to the water supply, and that the metabolizes of them don't matter being pissed out into it either.

But why aren't blacks also affected?

What dose are you on? Did you start at that dose? How long have you been taking this?

I am 43 and fairly low test when I last checked. I have lost 30# in the last four months, and when I get to 50# down I will get my T tested again. Would like to know more about your situation, as Clomid is easy to buy here, and fairly cheap.

Because they`re superior then it comes to masculinity and T production?

You only think that because you don't see blacks too often.

The rate of homosexuality in the black community is pretty high, comparatively. They're a minority, so it seems like they're affected less, but they're not.

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>What dose are you on? Did you start at that dose? How long have you been taking this?

Still on the starting dose. 25mg daily. About 4 months now.

Not only birth control pills. Im working in hospital and im flushing in the sink many pills every day for various reasons like expiration or i cant give another half of pill to another patient. I rather will not tell you what everyone is doing with antibiotics in injection form. For sure water recycling system will not remove every hormones from our water. There is also some theory about water memory. Thanks God im drinking only coke and beer.

stop posting my wife please

Make me, ya poofter

What the fuck CZ? I live in laissez faire America and we have to dispose of medications in special pharmaceutical waste containers.

>But it comes down to the not the hormones, but the metabolites of estrogen and progesterone which have little to no bioavailability, not to mention what they even do in the body, which I don't even know to be honest, but I'd wager, not what they are supposed to. Just to be clear, I'm arguing that there's not enough pills to make a difference to the water supply, and that the metabolizes of them don't matter being pissed out into it either.

I'm not saying BC metabolites in water are definitively lowering T in men, I'm saying we don't really know yet.

There are a litany of various estrogens and progestins used in BC. Some are excreted as glucuronide/sulfated conjugates, some small amount is probably excreted in urine or feces as unchanged drug.

Exactly which compounds are in the water supply and to what degree? I don't know. Does anyone know?

We have these containers too but people are lazy and also you dont want show that your state hospital which is piad by taxes is waisting so many pills due to expiration so its easier just drop it in the sink so containers are always empty and meaningless at this point.

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It is an actual thing. The water is also polluted with shit like antidepressants, which fucks with fauna/flora.

yeah, It's probably something that should be studied. I was guesstimating that it wasn't enough to make a difference. If money can be found to pay for "Trump Supporters Are More Likely To Sniff Their Own Farts", where the fuck are the grants for this shit?

This pollution needs to end. My Mrs has a small implant under the skin of her arm to stop conception, it lasts six months then completely dissolves her body, affecting nobody but her.

Yes. Municipal water systems don’t really have a good way to remove these types of waste from the water supply (which is just some other town’s discharge)

It's funny, because, other than things like narcotics, disposal of drugs isn't tracked. But if for some reason the wrong thing is found in the wrong trash can, there are huge fines.

I'd say xenoestrogens are a far bigger threat since they come from plastics and, well, look around you. Plastics are everywhere.

It is urine runoff, components of the drugs cannot be absorbed into the body nor properly filtered in the sewage treatment plants. The same goes for all drugs, legal or illegal which are made in a laboratory.

pills go in the trash, amps/vials go in sharps. didn't know CZ was such a backwards shithole. paramedic + ER tech for 5 years between the two and never seen medication flushed or put in the sink once in a clinical setting.

That is a pretty low dose; how interesting. Have you made any other lifestyle changes in conjunction with this? And good on you for taking charge and turning that around for yourself.

>yeah, It's probably something that should be studied.

The studies so far aren't really conclusive, lots of conflicting data. But even beyond the typical compounds they are looking for, you have to wonder about various estrogenic compounds used in plastics, livestock, agriculture, etc. And can't ANY exposure to exogenous estrogen be disrupting to a man's hormonal axis?

I'm not saying it's the end of the world or anything, but it is somewhat reckless that we started synthesizing all these estrogenic compounds with little regard for what the long-term effects might be.

it may not be tracked but there's still policy on where non-narcotic med waste goes.

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>Have you made any other lifestyle changes in conjunction with this?

No changes. Same diet and supplements. Same training routines (OL, HLM, and Texas Method), just with more weight now.

You actually drink unfiltered water?

Show man tits or GTFO!

Nice job! How did this happen to be prescribed? Did the doctor suggest it, did you see a specialist, or did you research it and suggest it or what? What is OL and HLM?
Thank you.

Worked at a MBR wastewater plant where the influent was only from a senior citizen neighborhood. The effluent was yellow from all of the various medications that they take.

Wastewater treatment is basically the removal of solids and disinfection before discharging. Then the water treatment plant pulls it in, removes the solids and chlorinates and (maybe) fluorinates it. Then they send it to you.

Unless your local water treatment plant has a Reverse Osmosis (which uses a lot of electricity and is normally considered unneccesary) there is no medication removal from your water.

I've got man tits, but It's because all of the liquid jew (liquor) that I drank this year. Resolution is to quit, and I didn't have tits before, hopefully I won't have them by next summer. If not, it'll be bikini season I guess.

Yet our socialistic healthcare system is far better than yours for average person. Isnt it funny? so if we are backward shithole based on not recycling our meds as we are supossed to do.... well i dont know which africa tier you are because nearly in everything you will get better care here.

We have a fuckton of problems, I won't lie, but why does all of the worlds rich come to the US for care if we are so Africa-teir? CN and UK have started to compensate and start growing a market for it, but they are still hemorrhaging doctors, I read the UK lost 8,000 MD's last year.

>Unless your local water treatment plant has a Reverse Osmosis (which uses a lot of electricity and is normally considered unneccesary) there is no medication removal from your water.
What if you take water from a dam and dump it into the ocean? Are you at risk then?

pissing tons of hormones into the wild
no nothing is going to happen

Yes.
Get your woman to use a basal thermometer and monitor her menstral cycle/ ovulation.

Use natural cycles app. Google it. Been using it for over 6 months.

Getting you own reverse osmosis set up isn't expensive. If you are that worried, just do that. Don't depend on the gov't to do everything for you.
>What if you take water from a dam and dump it into the ocean? Are you at risk then?
Not to be insulting, but what the fuck are you trying to say here?

>why does all of the worlds rich come to the US for care if we are so Africa-teir?

It's easy to answer its all about supply and demand and as long as you don't have socialistic system people can get various treatments based on their willingness to pay for medical care. Here even millionaire will get the same treatment as the last laborer because no one can't buy "extras". I have worked for a while in one very good clinic in Prague, which was state property and I saw even very rich people from other countries coming here. You can still find very good hospitals in Africa, but they are private as yours.

>Not to be insulting, but what the fuck are you trying to say here?
Well, you're not at risk if the water is taken from a dam and never recycled, are you?

In my water treatment class my teacher (Not a school professor, just a water treatment operator who has been in the business for 30 years and wanted extra cash) discussed something called Mississippi River theory.

Basically, if you are along a water path and nature hasn't had enough detention time to naturally clean the water then you are getting the extra bad shit from every person upriver from you.

So if you live in New Orleans, you're drinking the birth control of every roastie from southern Minnesota, and every border town through IA, IL, MO, AR, TN, MS and northern LA.

So there isn't really an answer. It would all depend on who is discharging into the receiving waters ahead of you.

They're a fragment of a real thing. Hormones in the water to have an effect (albeit a very small one) but agricultural runoff is a far greater source of them than contraceptives.

Not an expert there, but it's my understanding you are beholden to your water table, so shit runs into that river which eventually gets dammed.
In my experience, you get some solid care as long as you have decent insurance. And most people with 40-50k or more a year jobs have access to that with minimal cost. I have to pay 2k in a calendar year on my own, which kind of does suck, but most preventive stuff (physical, basic labs, mammos for the ladies, etc) is free or has a minimal $20 or less copay. I have the worst of 3 plans at work because I'm youngish, and healthy. It sucks, but I know plenty of poor people, and fuck em is what I believe. It sucks, and for every person who's a victim of circumstance, there are 3-5 wastes of air so I personally have no sympathy for them.

Birth control byproduct contamination is a big concern in the Great Lakes. There have been many studies. Here are two to get you acquainted. Feel free to do more independent research.

sciencecases.lib.buffalo.edu/cs/files/pcb.pdf

ncregister.com/daily-news/birth-control-in-drinking-water-a-fertility-catastrophe-in-the-making

(Yes, I understand the second link directs you to the Catholic Register but that article is well written and links studies by the USGS and questions other scenarios).

Enjoy! Ciao!

FEMALES ARE PISSING SOY INTO YOUR MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY

WOMEN WERE A MISTAKE

BUY REVERSE OSMOSIS FILTRATION

The danger of birth control is grossly underrated. Don't you fucks notice feminism and degeneracy only took off after the pill? They had been trying to get feminism and a sexual revolution going for decades, but it was still minor. That's when birth control attacked.

I wasn't the chemicals in the pill, it was psycosocial. It was allowing them to have agency over their own sex lives. Women letting you fuck them were the gatekeepers of society, so when they weren't allowed to do much else, things were fine. You now made it okay for them to go out and do whatever they wanted with their lives, but keep the sex under lock and key is where a lot of western problems have been born from. I absolutely believe that it's the cause of mass shooters. They are all nokiss virgin white guys and hapas, who got suckered into feminism the hardest.

don't use them

Everybody.
Eventually your body will have to make waste of the trash you consume. Dumb amerimutt.

Test levels have fallen regardless of occupation or activity level.
Are you trolling? You're no astronaut, you're fat and eating trash.

You absolute idiot, all those things you mentioned are a result of the pill. Women's sexual behavior is completely dictated by their hormones, which were all fucked up by birth control. How obvious must it be? Even Cosmo and other bs like that at least admits the pill can cause personality changes. Do you really think they all just decided to act differently one day because a feminist told them so? Feminism is like a virus, and the causes are very clear, you've got to be blind to think it only takes some convincing to make it such a massive movement as it now is.