Without using memes...

without using memes, can someone explain to a brainlet why the net neutrality repeal was a good thing (besides that reddit is upset)? was it just a guise by obama labeled as 'net neutrality' for the government to unnecessarily control the internet?

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>why the net neutrality repeal was a good thing

You are literally a retarded sheep who wants to refresh his brainless dogma to mindlessly hate on other parties.

Fucking hell, your sort is the most pathetic of all. A beta without any opinions of regurgitates the cum of Trump . Think for fucking once for yourself, you incompetent farmer. You really need Immanuel Kant.

>net neutrality was made In 2015
>the internet was fine before that

I am ambivalent. Right now Google and Facebook seem to be the people monetizing the internet. If you let the ISPs figure out how to better monetize the internet I think we will end up with better cheap or free access. For example you could get a phone paid for with the advertising, that would be tracked and maybe limited to what you could see. The tracked part is already being done by google - why not let the isps do the same. If people want unfettered access they are going to pay for it. If people want less tracking or fewer limits they can use a proxy (or run their own proxy - it is super cheap to set up a vps).

If the isps fuck up too badly they can always be re-regulated. But I see cellphones as providing almost good enough bandwidth for everybody to tether (and bandwidth caps only seem to be rising) so I see a whole lot more competition about to hit the ISPs making them behave sanely.

I see the internet devolving super quickly right now to a shit-show run by google/facebook/twitter/big media in spite of "net neutrality". I am ok with seeing what happens without it for a while.

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>government to unnecessarily control the internet?

The whole point of net neutrality was to prevent anyone (ISPs or the government) from having too much control of the internet.

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Net neutrality is literally nothing.
>this triggers pic related

nigger they abused all the regulations in place before 2015. and yes NN was a thing before 2015 you fucking reatrd.

>I LVOE TRUMP MAGA
>he does something retarded
>i'm ambivalent

you're all retarded and I hope your only internet service provider pulls Sup Forums from your package

>>net neutrality was made In 2015
No, fer fucks sake, stop listening to Ted Cruz, you twat.
The 2015 regs in question address privacy, not net neutrality.
They'll both be gone, now that the party of "big business first" has hag their way, but net neutrality is something we've ALWAYS had here in America.
The FCC regs only came into existence relatively recently because until the 2010's, ISP honored a tradition of net neutrality WITHOUT government intervention.

Ther's no laws _specifically_ prohibiting you from blowing your neighbor's dogs, but if that becomes a thing, the state WILL pass a law to address this particular issue.

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i hope your ISP makes you pay to use reddit.

Unfortunately that will never happen because you're just a delusional fuckwad with shit for brains who bought into the propaganda yet again.

Not the end of the world, I'll run a proxy for $5/month, which I should be doing anyway.

In all seriousness if that happens it is only going to clean this place up by reducing the reddit and incompetent shits that wander by.

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the donald is worse at facts than pol is you dumb faggot

So Netflix, Google (Youtube), and Facebook (Facebook Video) pay for part of their backend content delivery costs, rather than freeloading off every ISP subscriber.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith

It prevented states from controlling their own municipalities spending

People keep posting this explanation, but I can't find any evidence that ISP's are required to possess a broadcasting license to operate.

Net neutrality prevented Big media corporations from ever having a strong foothold on the internet, and allowed for everyone to have and view the same content.. now that's gone. Now internet providers can break up internet content in two packages and sell them at different prices...

What worries me.. most media corporations have left leaning political views and will now have the ability to censor any website/ internet content thay determined to be offencive..

Alternative news media on the internet that helped Donald Trump get elected is now in jeopardy

IT DOESN'T MATTER
explained

You're the retard. The reason we have so few choices is due to local and regional government regulations that favor a particular company or make it extremely difficult and costly to start up a new ISP.

Net neutrality is a symptom of that, not a cause you fuckstick.

DURP THE SOLUTION TO BAD GOVERNMENT IS MORE BAD GOVERNMENT - lefty cucks everywhere

It's funny how people think that the same mainstream media that censors and spins everything won't do any content control on the internet.
And by funny, I mean annoying.

I don't understand why Sup Forums doesn't realize this website along with all the other alternate news sites are going to be the ones to be axed first. I mean, do you think Comcast would ever give someone like Alex Jones or a group of people like him a TV channel and give him just as much access to the TV audience as they do CNN?

Only the "Fake News Media" has the money to pay for these fast lanes, and this money would dwarf any money lost from any of you reading, thinking about "Just switching ISPs". We consumers are small time, if the ISPs can just get their money by cutting deals with large corporations instead.

What the fuck do you think op? You're talking to the group of people who were told a truth years ago, and still participate in 17 anti-weed threads a day all so 100k a year agency shills can wipe their ass with your tax dollars. Use your brain.

"Earlier this month, Belita Nelson told an audience of doctors and nurses at the Marijuana for Medical Professionals Conference in Denver that during her time with the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), she was basically in charge of making the public as a whole believe that cannabis was dangerous. This, despite the fact that the DEA is fully aware of the fact that cannabis is harmless. Worse still, she blatantly admitted that cannabis represented the primary ‘cash cow’ of the DEA and one that the agency was unlikely to be giving up anytime soon.

“Marijuana is safe, we know it is safe. It’s our cash cow and we will never give up,” she said.

She admitted that both the fact that cannabis is safe and the way in which it is relied upon by the DEA for funding purposes was actually the first thing she learned when she took up her position in 1998."

I'm a brainlet, but it's mentioned something about broadcasting licenses and renews in the title ii Telecommunications Act of 1996 wikipage, I'm on my phone and can't search very well on the actual documentation. Maybe try and get the document and look for the words of "licenses".

ITT:

Sup Forums fellates Bell, Verizon, Comcast

It's because the laws passed in 2015 refer to the original 1934 framework.
it.ojp.gov/PrivacyLiberty/authorities/statutes/1288

>let's prevent anyone from having too much control of the internet by putting it behind the executive branch rules of the federal government. I'm sure that will work.

Who costs the ISP the most money: Netflix or Alex Jones. They want to charge you your monthly fee and for you to use as little bandwidth as possible. I don't see this site as costing Comcast a dime relative to any big company.

I watched the live stream panel of the people voting to end net neutrality, and they were all hard line leftists who are clearly in the pockets of media Corporations

>and set a time limit of 8y before its readdressed
IT WAS HER TURN!!!!

>without using memes
>uses a meme
This thread went to shit immediately.

It did the opposite. Without being able to throttle or control big distributor traffic it's actually more difficult for new distributors to get a foothold. It also subsidized those big media corporations in their efforts to get a foothold on the internet.

What are we trying to flip the script now? Did we actually believe our bullshit about Sup Forums only disliking NN because the librulz?

>Similar language was never used in housing, healthcare, the military, etc.

you are a retarded gorilla nigger and you have to go back.

Net neutrality set up the current state of the internet that helped Trump get elected... why do you want that to be fucked with?

What?
So we are flipping the script now?
"LIBRULZ HATE NN"
"TRUMP LUVS NN"
literally the opposite of 24 hours ago
literally still completely irrelevant

the net neutrality repeal doesn't really do much good on it's own. That reddit is upset is exactly why it is good. Liberals are throwing a tantrum because they made up all kinds of retarded doom scenario's about the repeal of net neutrality. This will make them seem retarded to normal people and that means that they will have support on issues that actually matter.

Don't be naive. Party politics is a very important force. It would be foolish to ignore that.

>"uh hello, yes, im user mouss, ticket number 345567BB, I contracted the "media and entertainment" package like a week ago, with some of my news pages on the side, but I cant seem to find one of the websites that I wanted"
"its called Sup Forums. Thats 'four' as in the number. Its pretty big, it should've been on the package already"

Obama called it "net neutrality" so that people would support it.

IT wasn't actually net neutrality.

Yes, I don't know why this is a surprise to you.. Big media corporations are by vast majority run by libtards..

We've learned through Facebook/YouTube/Twitter other liberal media Outlets..
Libtards have no problem censoring things they find offencive

Although net neutrality was set up during the Obama Administration, it ultimately helped small alternative media elect Donald Trump..

Giving more control of the internet to Big media corporations does not work to our favor..

Republicans whose bottom line is capitalism and Trump supporting the end of net neutrality have ultimately shot themselves in the foot

wow, biggest retard take of the year.
read the fucking legislation you imbred.

as soon as someone brings up net neutrality i know for a fact they have no idea what it is. you could spend a week reading about net neutrality and get no further than you were a week prior. i fucking hate how politics is so complex and people are at the whim of memes, groupthink, and mob rule

Suppose you are poor and you need to do laundry, so you go down to the local laundromat

>Scenario 1
>Government forces laundromat to treat all customers equally, machines are first come first serve
>Some asshole comes in and uses every single machine at once
>Line of unhappy customers can't do their laundry, vow not to come back to laundromat in the future
>laundromat owner can't do shit, gubmint ties his hands

>Scenario 2
>dude wants to use every single machine
>laundromat owner says fuck no, you can only use a maximum of 4 machines at a time
>unless you'd like to pay extra, in which case I'll increase the number of machines at your disposal
>extra income to laundromat at least partially offsets pissing off other customers
>shitty behavior like hogging all of the machines disincentivized, laundromat owner has both incentive and means to please everyone

Scenario 1 is NN, Scenario 2 is what we have now and had prior to 2015. Hope this helps.

holy shit did you copypaste this straight from leddit? there's a difference bewtween an ISP and a media corp. the repeal of title II essentially fucks over the media corporations. instead of getting their free gobernment gibs they actually have to pay the ISP to use their service

its more like without fear mongering memes explain why we need network neutrality

it's because net neutrality is just another ambiguous term that has no actual meaning. most retards aren't willing to go further than their social media profiles and newspaper subscriptions, so they never actually get to see legislation or regulatory acts

>wow, biggest retard take of the year.

don't be so hard on yourself.

Except thats not how it goes at all. Your model assumes that some media titan could hog all the bandwidth (thats what the machines are, right? Websites and bandwidth) and the rest of the pages of the internet would have none.

>Picture a world where people cant actually wash their clothes at home
>Picture a laundromat, with a virtually unlimited number of laundry machines
>Machines are first come first serve, and everyone can pop in and use their machine however they please as long as they keep paying their fee. Stuff it with bricks, do laundry once every decade, fill it with questionable but legal porn or do your laundry once a day. You could even pay your fee and never use it.
>LaundroMat LLC comes around, changes the laundry machines so each have different speeds and power.
>You can now wash your laundry by hand in the communal Public Pile, or you can pay.
>More money gives you a better machine
>You can only wash your bedsheets in Bedsh33t Plus, by Amazon
>Underwear can only be washed in Google's Silk Touch 2000
>Anything at all that the laundromat doesnt want you to wash, like a Confederate flag or a pepe tshirt, doesnt have a designated machine, so you cant wash it at all.

First is NN. Second is media-controls-what-I-can-see sceneario aka post-NN

>Your model assumes that some media titan could hog all the bandwidth
pic related, Jewtube and Netflix alone are 50% of peak bandwidth usage.
>virtually unlimited number of laundry machines
Delusional, but then again I'm not surprised since commies don't understand scarcity ;)

>Jewtube and Netflix alone are 50% of peak bandwidth usage
Traffic usage, thats the fucking point.
The internet is not a pool of limited water that we share. Its not a road you can block. Its a network of connections between servers.
Everytime Netflix builds and links a new server, they are literally and objectively expanding the internet. You connect your machine to the server and download the data. Thats why Netflix and Google have so much bandwidth, they have a lot of servers for you to connect to.
If you had a website and wanted to stream more than your server can handle, you'd need to build another one. You can ask your ISP for more bandwidth just like you cant ask the road to make your car go faster. Thats simply not how it works.
Me having more money than you doesnt limit yours, same as reddit having more downstream data doesnt limit Sup Forums's. You have to be either 12 or double-digit IQ to not understand how the internet works.

>You can either be a commie or gag on the cock of big media

Also, "peak bandwidth usage" means the peak of their personal usage, and they made the graph with that. It doesnt mean the global peak of internet downstream.
It explains a lot that none of you fucking retards defending media controlling the internet actually know how it actually works. Probably the same kind of people that think solar energy drains the sun.

It wasn't.

It also means that all forms of peer-to-peer file sharing, along with the darknet itself, will completely disappear.

ALL internet traffic that doesnt correspond to the categories they specifically have set aside can be thrown into the noisiest lowest speed transfer rate they can dredge up, lower than bottom of the barrel. If not banned completely depending on the ISP.
> you cant use proxies anymore, the traffic is going to a site that isnt on the list, so you get 10kbit transfer rate

Because all the rest of the traffic that they will even allow will be categorized by other businesses/services that actively go out across the entire internet to identify sites based on their content with a ton of tags to place them in the proper categories.

Its just like those safe surf services that block porn sites on public wifi except there will be services for ALL websites and they will literally categorize everything on the internet that they want to keep. While anything they dont will either be put on the ban list, or they'll just refuse to categorize it.

Also just imagine how much big data research will be done on you based on where you surf to. They wont even need to use ad services to track your habits anymore, those categorization services will feed the data right back to the ISP.

Unironically this is the only logical and efficient way to police the internet, essentially doing a SelectAll+Delete while only keeping what you actually want (which might still be staggering, but like The Thirteenth Floor movie there will be alot of stuff that just disappears). And since those services already exist and have been used for awhile the infrastructure is already there.

So I can post rare images like these without poorfag burgers getting their hands on them.

Well for example Porn wont go away, but what will happen is it'll be throttled so that you may only be able to get away with downloading the images at some abysmal transfer rate like 10 Kb per second.
> no video for you

But if you buy the Porn Subscription.

However you all want to know some serious orwellian shit that can come out of it? I was there gandalf, 3000 years ago, I saw the strength of man fail
> when America Online was released in 1993.

Check this out... an ISP (in fact all of them) can suddenly decide they are going to promote a New Shiny Operating System or Browser System (closed source as all fucking getout)
> which caters to all the pleb and propaganda shit that is being promoted
> which only goes to safe sites
> which has plugins so you can go to sites available only on subscription, like porn sites
> which is promoted as the new hot thing which you will get the maximum speed out of
> which transfers via a new protocol or proxy network they've designed specifically so all the traffic goes through that instead, which by the way can also be packet sniffed and monitored too
> which will be touted as safer, much less prone to viruses, and protect you against fake news and keep your kids from watching porn

Because they will throttle ALL other traffic - ALL other traffic. You can only use the internet at a manageable speed if you use the ShinyFlashyNewSystem that is suddenly being promoted by one ISP after another - which people wont have a choice in regardless of how much they bitch about it since nobody's voice will be heard.

Now we get into this possibility where like cyberpunk land you can hear the phraise "Yeah the fucker is using a Pirate Browser" or "He's on a Pirate Network that is jacked into the main band somewhere" as if to say that Browsers themselves are also sanctioned and you cant even view the internet without a special program.
> and the content itself is sanctioned, sorta approaching a read only state

Yeah, okay, everything you say there is true...

...but you leave out the fact that Netflix and Google/YouTube aren't paying their fair share to the ISPs.

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>Quotes a reddit user
>Implies that he goes on r/The_Donald
Opinion disgarded.

More like
>Laundromat owns a detergent brand
>You can use their brand of detergent in the machine for free or pay extra to use another, potentially superior, brand
>You can't go to another laundromat because there is only one other laundromat company for another 100 miles and they have a deal to protect each other's interests

All I noticed that the discussion about net neutrality is very alike the one about flat earth.
Two opposing hardened beliefs clashing against each other. Both said to be supported by "facts" depending on who you ask.

>quotes five unrelated postings with different points and potential counterpoints
>wall of text
>bad meme image

didn't read. Not interested in hearing preaching. If you were specifically addressing one of my points I'd be happy to discuss it with you but you'll need to isolate it.