Yesterday was a very, very good day for Constitutionalism, for a free internet, and a very bad, dark day for communists and progressives everywhere. They're still currently crying into their pillows over the whole matter.
Those with dishonesty in their hearts desire to talk about internet service providers, speed throttling, how evil corporations are, and other such absurdities. Net Neutrality has nothing to do with any of that. That's only a sales pitch. You see, the progressives cannot sell to you that they want total control over the internet, so they have to cook up flowery language - the word "Neutrality" ..... ahhhhhhh, so calming. Who could be against "neutrality"? I guess that makes me a bigot.(That's the next charge in line)
This is a fraud. Its a hoax. What a scam!
History tells us everything we need to know. Who did probably more than anybody else to get Net Neutrality off of the ground? Robert McChesney - a red communist.
What organization probably did more than any other to get Net Neutrality off of the ground? The mis-named "Free Press" - a fellow traveling communist front organization.
Who did probably more financiering of Net Neutrality than anybody else in order to get it off the ground? George Soros. I know I'm not telling you anything new here, but when large amounts of Soros money are involved, you know Liberty is under heavy assault. Why did Soros want Net Neutrality so bad?
History: Net Neutrality was originally named "Broadband discrimination". Now, if that isn't a snowflake-fest I don't know what is. But you see, that name was too honest when the eggheads at Columbia University cooked it up in the first place. So they needed something even more comfortable that wouldn't frighten people.
But you see, the liars don't want you talking about red communism. They want you talking about evil corporations. They don't want you talking about Soros' lifetime of destroying lives and building up big government. They want you talking about data bits traveling across wires. They don't want you talking about how Net Neutrality was cooked up in the first place - beyond the paper and out of the communist enterprises. No no no! Don't ever ask how it was invented. Just act like today is the only day that matters. Pay no attention to whatever is behind that curtain.
History: Many people have short memories. But not here. All of the fearmongering that we have heard about what would happen if Net Neutrality were repealed ignores the herd of elephants in the living room: The internet is well over a decade old; Net Neutrality is only roughly 2 years old. For those "missing" 8+ years, none of that garbage they speak of happened. So, maybe someone who was born yesterday could be fooled by this. But I'm old enough to engage my brain and remember how it was - remember that you are now lying. Robert McChesney once wrote that: "The ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control." It really doesn't matter what I think, per-se, what matters most is what they think. And what they think, when the sales pitch is removed and the liars take their masks off, is that they are waging an anti-capitalist war with the same goal they always have: control over your life. Government must be in control. That is the real goal. I for one do not want communist control of my life or any aspect of it. Those 8+ "missing" years disprove everything and they know it - which is why they don't even try - they just speak in nebulous theories and fearmongering. And with regard to Net Neutrality, the communists and the progressives are in full agreement.
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Logan Martinez
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You see, the progressives have been dealt a huge blow with the repeal of Net Neutrality, and every time progressives lose, I want to be seen and I want to be heard cheering. I don't care if I stand alone or not. Whatever. The progressives lost yesterday. Yesterday was a good day. That's cause for me to stand and cheer.
I only have one question for you, any who would disagree with my contentions here: You need to show me just one time in history where communism was a good thing for the people. That's your challenge. If you can do that, at least you can then say that Net Neutrality is your second time, your second example, that something the communists cooked up was good too.
Because the history of Net Neutrality is redder than the Soviet Union flag or Chinese flag. And nobody can honestly dispute that fact.
Nathaniel Martin
Bump.
David Miller
i lub bubbwerdz XD
Kayden Stewart
Can you spoon feed me how net neutrality dying is a good thing? There are no real points in this post...
Julian Fisher
it's not a good thing
Logan Robinson
This increase in FREEDOM is AMAZING!!!
Now ISPs are free of those communist laws that kept them chained, unprofitable, and weak. Finally ISPs can block and throttle whatever web sites they want for whatever political and profit reasons they feel like, making the free market more AMAZING!
This is the best thing ever!
Ethan James
If i'm not mistaken, the net neutrality was introduced in 2015. so, what was the net disasterous before 2015?
Carson Sullivan
Heh. I’m pretty good friends with McChesney in real life. Took his class and got the highest grade he’s ever given
Josiah Price
Because govt controlled internet would be much better right?
Fuck off kike shill
Jaxon Ross
he sounds like a cunt user is he?
Ethan Jackson
I just hope it hurts the porn industry
Nolan Sanders
If i'm not mistaken, the net neutrality was introduced in 2015. so, was the net disasterous before 2015? if it's a wrong statement or there is smthng i've missed out - i'm open to discussion
Kevin Cooper
and why would the elites want communism again? please explain to us all how communism benefits the ruling class.
Luis King
>If i'm not mistaken, the net neutrality was introduced in 2015. so, was the net disasterous before 2015? if it's a wrong statement or there is smthng i've missed out - i'm open to discussion
the third video here is from 2014 discussing the history of net NN
the meme about NN not existing before 2015 is one of the corporate shill talking points.
Because the elite can justify the tight ruling hand on the masses because muh state must be stronk! individualism must not be permitted!
Literally common sense.
Luis Rogers
there's literally a book about it Animal Farm? George Orwell?
Evan Hall
shut up kike
Jace Williams
leave it a to a brasilian to be retarded. rich elites want proletariat communism. good lord the brainpower on this site
Jose Perry
Holy fuck you retards, sometimes the democrats are right on SOME issues. the mental gymnastics ive seen the last few days are incredible, but really, keep believing that the ISPS arent going to fuck your ass raw. Im not even a liberal troll, I voted trump, but you guys are being straight retarded now.
Tyler Stewart
elites always benefited in communism, same thing as fascism, where the government always favored certain industries
Jeremiah Lee
your just trying to smoke screen for them Theyre really destroying the internet, and you're making it pretend that we're going along with it cause they never want to do anything without a scapegoat
who cares you faggots have no morals and will say anything you proved nothing and used a bunch of keywords to spew your post go fuck yourself op
Wyatt Allen
Sage this thread. Reddit has taken over this one
Tyler Gonzalez
fuck those jews
Cooper Powell
NN from 2006 to 2015 can be summed up as Netflix and Google/Youtube not wanting to pay for sucking up half of all bandwidth and instead wanting everyone to share the burden.
Besides, it's not even an argument we're in a far better place now.
Jordan Hughes
straight up. the democrats piss out of their small penises and diseased vaginas, therefore, i will show them and piss out of my gaping asshole.
Elijah Gomez
probably the most accurate representation of american politics i've ever read
Austin Jenkins
>brasilian >calling me retarded
That's why you can't understand the basics of the power structures and why the elites are pushing so hard to limit individualism. Literally jumping to ad hominem on the first counter argument.
Thank you for nothing.
Anthony Collins
Friendly reminder ending NN is putting the kikes on notice.
Josiah Ross
Not taking a side, but I am curious why so many people on Sup Forums wanted net neutrality if it was something Obama put in. Why would Obama have done something that would help keep the internet more free and open?
Adam Butler
>America is the new loo for the most delicious of Hindustani poo.
Isaiah Gray
>t. Faggot who thought that the patriot act was about patriot
Nathan Nelson
even dead people were for ending NN
Anthony Morgan
how about neither, you shit flinging ape?
James Flores
shills
Parker Robinson
Netflix niggers have to pay for costs of business instead of ISP consumers subsidizing it.
Samuel Roberts
>implying the simulation didn't start last year and history is a fabrication
Wyatt Lee
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Ethan Howard
>net neutrality is a communist plot >communism is bad >therefore net neutrality dying is a good thing that's his point. he's either a nigger or a woman to invent such a fucking retarded strawman
Cameron Robinson
Net Neutrality seperates the newfags from the oldfags.
I remember when the thought of NN going into effect scared anons, now they're crying to keep it
Christian Jackson
>we're gonna put the kikes on notice by giving them full reign of government and business
Eli Hernandez
shill you are all shills
either way this goes without the internet looked at as an information superhighway which is what everyone knows it as but instead a points of selling then there won't be the INTERNET as we know it
yOU mother fuckrs are such shills you wont even acknowledge me but you will and >INB5 make replies despite me and will try to smoke screen up some support to your shit without ever ereplying to me to pretned your real
THis is all an echo chamber of shit noones talking to me your all shills go fuck ryourself
thats information yuou cant deal with it. yuou want a fake (((internet))) so (((YOU))) can claim someone supports your godamn shit we all know what this SHIT is
example, monthly payment charges on blizzard wow being used for harrassment :since sometime during the first game. a.)you cant expand multiplayer games, while including stuff int eh base game that can give you more shit. proven by them theireselves selling INGAME GOLD now. that means this entire time theyve done it, and they are trying to legitimize this shit they have been doing the whole time except for when it first started out. isntead of fighting against it, theyve worked with it ever since discovered
Tyler Miller
its just bantz. my apologies to the great nation of brasil. accept this anaconda as my offering. also, the elites conspired to kill off any socialist talk in america. see sanders. ur off ronaldinho. ur way off.
Ryan Ward
>hello fellow free market enthusiasts
Evan Fisher
And they'll never ever conspire with websites to turn each one into their own seperate television station and its all so very wanted like hats being sold in games I mean since gabe newell stuck hats in a game peopple paid for and they deemed them theirselves worth money and restricted your ability to play without personally identifiable information, making it on line poker and (((REAL))) values, i mean its all obviuosly proven
Tyler Thomas
Been here since /new/, and that's just some quality crap you're spewing right there.
Angel Sanchez
Net Neutrality is large websites like facebook or google or netflix, which use huge amounts of bandwith, thinking that instead of paying their share of data usage, can instead use the NN bill so they cannot be responsible for paying their fair share and the payment instead comes from the taxes of the populace
Carson Smith
>google, netflix, fb, twitter and pornhub have to cover costs of peddling their bullshit now >bad
Juan Reed
>the games name was team fortress 2
Adrian Smith
>websites that makes you a communist they will never affect their websites after paying the ISP for bandwidth to get online with, then they want MORE MONEY to keep you online with
wow its like a waste of my fucking time
they dont fucking pay me ill take that godamn modem and shove it up their ass no seriuosly ill take it back
WILKES-BARRE -- For the past few months, the Federal Communications Commission asked for comments from the public on whether it should end net neutrality. Thousands of comments came from people in northeastern and central Pennsylvania. But it appears many, if not most of these comments, are fake.
We called 12 people whose names were listed as making comments with the FCC and none of them said they even contacted the agency. That includes a woman from Wilkes-Barre who admits she doesn't even know what the FCC does. The Christmas spirit runs through the home of Darlene Mapes in Wilkes-Barre, but her smile goes away when she learns her name is on a government document to the federal communications commission.
"I never did that," Mapes said.
But FCC files show that in August, Mapes wrote, "the Obama-era FCC regulations (known as net neutrality) enable the federal government to exert an unnecessary amount of regulatory control of the internet."
The FCC file shows Mapes writing, "I support Chairman Pai's proposal."
"I don't know a Chairman Pai," she said.
The FCC lists more than 500 people from Dunmore as commenting on net neutrality, including former borough council member Paul Nardozzi. He believes most of his neighbors on the list did not contact the agency.
"If they can use my name and have my address idiotic as that, God only knows what someone else could use your name for," Nardozzi said.
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Wyatt Taylor
>uncle gubsy is in prison for cp
Ethan Garcia
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Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro believes so many fake comments hurt people who opposed the FCC. He wants to see a federal investigation into how the names of so many people were used without their knowledge.
"Approximately one million fake accounts were created, and really it influenced their decision to gut net neutrality," Shapiro said.
Darlene Mapes hopes the new rules don't slow down her internet which she only uses to play games. And she's still concerned about her name being listed on a government document taking a stand on an issue she knows nothing about.
"They don't have a right to use my name." You may be concerned that your name is connected to a comment with the FCC and there's an easy way to find out. The attorney general's office has set up a web page where you can check to see if a fake comment has been made in your name.
Xavier Davis
ya THEY hahahahahaha fucking shill
Jack Carter
Compelling argument.
Joshua Parker
>internet is less free if the gov they force isps to provide an equal connection for all websites than if isps can make Sup Forums slow as fuck if they want to
Thomas Powell
btw company of heroes 2 is free on humble bundle for the next 17 hours. i used to play coh online back in 2010. played nazi terror. handle grosseier. good times.
Jaxon Sanders
If the networking illiterate cannot bypass deep packet inspection and packet injection they do not deserve real internets.
Luis Brooks
Anti-net neutrality is bad. A closed-access “last mile” is bad.
Together, you’ve got a total freaking monstrosity.
Some countries lack net neutrality regulation, but they have open, non-discriminatory access to the last mile, providing real competition.
Some countries have last-mile monopolies but have net neutrality rules to ensure those monopolies aren’t abused.
But combining the worst of both worlds to create a total lack of competition and an explicit enabling of anticompetitive throttling? Well, that’s just insane.
Aaron Thomas
Why would ISP's ban you from Sup Forums? This website sucks up 0 bandwidth from you using it versus say streaming a 4K quality movie on netflix, which is what their concern is: it's not the site, it's how much bandwidth it uses
Nolan Howard
>cover the cost
they pay their webhost
Samuel Martinez
You at least have a vote regarding government policy. You have no power over a company. Consumers rising up and voting with their wallets is a Libertarian fantasy, 99% of the population are against companies manufacturing their products in China, but that doesn't stop anybody from rushing to Wal-Mart to buy made in China crap. It's even more difficult to vote with your wallet when it comes to ISP's, my area only has one and I'm in the suburb of a large city. When you are more rural, if your ISP decides to block "hate" sites like Sup Forums, there's literally nothing you can do. Only a matter of time before the list of websites available to you is as restricted as the number of cable television channels.
My prediction is in the near future Verizon,Time Warner, Comcast, etc. fake some online protest movement regarding the delivery of "far-right" websites "forcing" them to block such sites, which is secretly what they desperately already wanted to do.
I could be wrong of course and am open to being corrected by anyone who knows better.
Zachary King
>thinking you could even make such a low resource consumer slower
You can always tell the people who didn't use the internet or Sup Forums when it was only 56k.
Xavier Brooks
he watched vids not pornos' the girls wherent paid so any trafficking didnt happen thats what the government says to get their noses involved with it.. >image related so this whole bill, in essence, is to get you invovled forced, into commerce
THAT MEANS no more SHARING ONLINE
nope they got to get some money out of it
uncle gubbsy can watch all the girls he wants doenst affect me.
AND this shit also will not protect the real underage children under 4 shouldnt smoke, girls. from anything theyll never do nothing about it.
>i believe it as much as this screenshot They are the ones who have it not anybody else, they go after it, for MONEY and THEY abuse kids while doing so by calling htem a porn star for the rest of their life to push their lie plus theyll never do anyting about any real pedo like a guy paying to have some 3 year old girl fucked then recorded and sold to him why? cause they made some money out of it
becaue the person obvviuosly had money to run something in the black market and theY control it, by being in business WITH (((them))) who control the black market (nigger)
Joseph White
In the new world of advanced network services if an ISP fucks with their customers connectivity too much there will be another provider offering more open connections to scoop customers up. This is all a huge nothingburger making libs beg for unnecessary litigation, government and private costs.
Joshua Miller
So now you have to pay to go to Sup Forums
David Long
Where did all these Obama cock sucking, boot licking fags come from? If removing net neutrality was such a problem, why wasn't this an issue before 2015? How fucking stupid are you that you fall for jewish media lies?
Samuel Gonzalez
>How do I VPN, fuck with DNS and firewall bullshit packets? Don't have to pay shit.
Tyler Carter
yea sure thats whats goign to happen >NOTHING becuase of course it isnt like that things that are attempted like this right NOW, like WoW arent already corrupt Or Team Fortress 2, and HATS NAH peddling poker to kids is fine.
Government always has to get involved in selling poker to kids
Mason Cook
>competition in a market where only one company or two own the infrastructure
Luis Cruz
it just came from 2015, why do you need to remove protections it has nothing to do with the Net neutrality shit or whatever theyre INCONSISTENT with their DEFINITIONS its over net protections, period
James Cooper
I don't know what the fuck is going on here so I will say these few things here Fuck Jews Keep Muslims out And being trans is A mental illness Jesus Christ was a fictional character fuck you and good night
Andrew Sullivan
WTF are you talking about paco? If net neutrality dies that means we're at the mercy of certain companies
One possibility is the technology wasn't far enough along in the past to effectively track traffic and selectively throttle or block. China has done a lot of pioneering in this area so maybe they can now. They will have companies do it so the government doesn't infringe on your freedom, the same way you still have freedom of speech but your company can fire you for saying anything not PC.
Ayden Walker
you said fuck jesus twice jesus was a palestinian, he was real theres evidence more so than since your an ATHEIST that devil some guy with pointy horns and a pointed tail, thats a made up effake thing
Jaxon Fisher
I agreeed with you up until the Jesus Christ is fictional. Atheist shills like you keep us from doing actual work.
Samuel Harris
POST MOAR BOBS
Charles Diaz
>i cant just imagine what would ever happen there just setting it up letting the isps start to censor and LABEL websites so then the FTC can come in youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w Your all just a bunch of shills
Mason Sanchez
I already do. People not using a pass are cucks.
Isaac Young
That's the problem, one company laid and owns the wires. So if you live in bumfuck West Virginia, it would be incredibly expensive for a company to lay their own foundation to provide you alternate access. So you literally can't vote with your wallet, whatever your ISP says goes.
Of course this could change soon, it's getting cheaper to launch satellites and drones, which are making satellite internet faster and more accessible. So who knows, maybe there will be a shit load of options in the future and the giant telecoms will go extinct.
Isaiah Perry
>Net Neutrality dies NET NEUTRALITY IS THE DEFAULT STATE OF THE INTERNET NET NEUTRALITY IS WHAT WAS RESTORED YOU FUCKING RETARD
Camden Harris
>why do you need to remove government trying to control more shit than they should be The rest is pure batshit conjecture. They had all the time before Obongo to do just that and nothing happened. Quite the coincidence. What does your link have to do with NN? >wasn't far enough >just 2 years ago. If you knew anything about ISPs and the networks they use, you would know they've had this ability for decades. Are we going to believe horseshit rumors off the internet in order to let the government take control of anything they want?
Michael Reyes
How can I find this chick to rape her? Asking for a friend
Jaxson Barnes
Post better titties. Low quality NN thread. Saged
Isaiah Myers
it wasnt restored retard They fucked up the internet with a court case then they made this shit called it the same name, AS I SAID inconsistent with their definitions now theyyre false flagging you with it ive said theyre trying to look for support with MORONS like you well you're just them\ >like this hasnt ever been done before
Carter Thomas
Wouldn’t it allow them to block and slow bandwidth from websites that they don’t agree with politically?
Parker Long
>what does your link have to do with NN?
Do you pay money to come and post whatever you want on Sup Forums
Jacob Adams
Google doesn't pay an ISP YOU FUCKING RETARDED FUCKS THEY ARE AN ISP
KILL YOURSELF YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGERS YOU KNOW SHIT ALL ABOUT THE ISSUE FUCK OFF
Lincoln Wilson
fuck you mother fucker. >dur dur dur image related they regulated isps by keeping them from overstepping intenret freedom rules, and the rules stememd from the Bill of RIGHTS
YOU could care one bit less about the internet your only here trying to garner support
Camden Carter
YOU are attempting to switch your definition of what GOOGLE stands for back and forth to fit YOUR NARRATIVE you speak about it as a website in context of net neutrality then to push your AGENDA you claim its an ISP
GOOGLE means NOTHING he means it in the context of how HE put it and you just twisted this to push the AGENDA your here to push CIA
John Wilson
Before the government owned most of the networks, now companies like Google and Amazon have created their own edge networks. If the government chose to block sites it would infringe on your freedom of speech, but a telecom can censor no problem since it is a private company. NN might have made sense a few years ago when the government thought it needed to block websites, but now they can start letting companies do it if they have their own networks in place.
Jayden Gomez
Friendly reminder that George Soros is pro net-neutrality.
Kayden Wright
It was starting when Comcast was throttling Netflix in order to force Netflix to pay peering fees.
Now ISP customers will pay to access the net and ISPS will then sell the customers as their product to other Internet companies like Netflix. > we have X million subscribers you want them to access your service? Well pony up
John Butler
>image HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH yep
Asher Powell
>Many people have short memories. But not here. The internet is well over a decade old
The technology to do the kind of throttling ISPs can now was not available back then.
Oh and I've been on the internet for 23 years....that's probably longer than you've been alive.
Logan Long
>gubmint owned networks >google amazon own /edge/ networks >telecom is a private company
No, theyre selling internet access The internet is the information superhighway not your editorial content control yo udont have any
to keep the internet the wires and shit it is an information highway they cant censor shit
the government cant either, neither one is constitutional
YOu think that based on what?
Xavier Reyes
Fuck you mother fucker!
You obviously dont give a fuck! About freedom and most importantly Net neutrality
Ayden Richardson
You will have more free time once you no longer have access to Sup Forums
Dylan Watson
Google laid their own network, even laid giant cable across the ocean. The only thing they still rely on your ISP for is getting the data from their edge servers the couple additional miles to the end user. Probably the government will sell off the portions of the public network they own to American oligarchs like Comcast and Google, so then when internet censorship kicks in the government can claim it isn't a first amendment issue since those private companies have a right to block whatever sites they want.